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Message Subject Defending the Pre-trib rapture **** New and Improved
Poster Handle Achduke7
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The Christian had no power over Satan until Jesus sent the Holy Spirit to indwell the Christian at the Pentecost after His resurrection.

In order for Satan to rule all the world for 42 months the Holy Spirit must be removed.

Since the Holy Spirit cannot be removed from the Christian once he has been filled with the Spirit then the Spirit filled Christian must be removed for Satan to receive his promised reign on Earth.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 48881331


If you throw away everything you learned about the pretrib doctrine why do you believe the Holy Spirit must be removed? The Holy Spirit will be around during the tribulation. One of the things that is specified before the tribulation really starts is the 144K being sealed. Reading Paul we know this is sealed with the Holy Spirit. Also the 2 witness must have the Holy Spirit along with all the tribulation saints.
 Quoting: Achduke7


What will the 144,000 be used by God to Accomplish?
 Quoting: Jake


I know it may be too far out there for some but I submit that the 144K are the 2 witnesses.

The 144K represent Israel being all 12 tribes.

God said Israel is his witness and his Olive Tree.

The 2 Witnesses are the Olive tree also.

How does Israel being one become 2 witnesses?

They were divided into 2 Kingdom. The North Kingdom represented by Joseph and the 10 Tribes along with the Southern Kingdom represent by Judah and the tribes of Judah and Benjamin.

So in summary the 144K are most probably the 2 witnesses. I would also submit that the Women of rev 12 is also this same symbol of the Church/Israel.

The 144K/witnesses will continue the ministry of Christ and preach the truth while the Antichrist will preach his false beliefs and persecute the Church/Israel.

The offspring of the Woman will be the tribulation saints who will come to believe and be killed for their beliefs. The women/144k/2 witnesses are sealed and protected from God.

I know this is far off for many but this is what I gather from reading the bible specifically Daniel and Revelation.
 
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