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Message Subject Defending the Pre-trib rapture **** New and Improved
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There is a pre-tribulation rapture..the "first-fruits", the man child, the 5 wise (virgins) , two grinding at the mill, both living/dead over-comers ......all prove it; these will enter the wedding feast of the lamb. The majority or "harvest" will have to go through the great tribulation.During the "last week", there is still the opportunity to enter the kingdom by being among those believers who are martyed for bearing his testimony in the great tribulation....

All believers have all been called but few will chosen to enter. The kingdom is reward for the bride of Christ.

Missing out is not loss of salvation. Jus loss of reward.

What happens to those believers who don’t enter......temporary cctv room for 1000 years..outer darkness./..

After 1000 years all believes as living stones will inherit/become the New Jerusalem.

Eph 2:20-22/ Rev 20,21,
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76863401


NOPE.

The "tares" get taken first.

Matthew 13:37-43

37 He answered and said unto them, He that soweth the good seed is the Son of man;
38 The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one;
39 The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels.

40 As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world.
41 The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity;
42 And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.


43 Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.



Matthew 24 states the SAME thing using the times of Noah as the example.

37 But as the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark,
39 And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

40 Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
41 Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left.

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Compare what Paul says to what Jesus says in these passages.

See how these are ALL the same event.

1 Thessalonians 4


14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him.

15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.

16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.



1. Notice that Verses 16 & 17 are pretty much EXACTLY what Jesus says in the Gospel descriptions.


Matthew 24:30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.

Matthew 26:64 Jesus saith unto him, Thou hast said: nevertheless I say unto you, Hereafter shall ye see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven.

Mark 13:26 And then shall they see the Son of man coming in the clouds with great power and glory.

Mark 14:62 And Jesus said, I am: and ye shall see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven.


2. Then notice how Paul's verses 15 & 17 match....


Matthew 24:13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.

Mark 13:13 And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.

Revelation 2:26 And he that overcometh, and keepeth my works unto the end, to him will I give power over the nations:
 
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