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Message Subject Defending the Pre-trib rapture **** New and Improved
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No proof in the other threads either.

Just a lot of "Wrongggg! unt ah no way!" No scriptural proof.
 Quoting: Achduke7


The subject itself is a matter of faith and decernment. You're not going to believe it if you are already biased against it.

I've been reading this thread and it's apparent to me that you're not the slightest bit objective about the subject. I saw a post where someone stated that the Holy Spirit would be removed from the earth before the revealing of the Anti-Christ and you dismissed it out-of-hand without any proof given by you that it was otherwise. You gave a generic "Wrongggg! unt ah no way!".
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79244739


I do not dismiss it. I just do not see any scriptural proof that it is the Holy Spirit that is removed. Especially when the bible makes it clear that the 144K are sealed during the tribulation. Who would be sealing the 144K if the Holy Spirit is removed?

Revelation 7:4 And I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there were sealed an hundred and forty and four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel.

Ephesians 1:13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,
 Quoting: Achduke7


I wasn't arguing in favor of that position, I was making a comment that you didn't provide any verses and that you dismiss other when they do the same.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79244739


I have provided lots of scripture in many rapture threads including this thread. As for the Holy Spirit I believe this theory comes from 2Thess 2:7.


Examining 2Thess 2:7 by the root of each Greek word we get.

2Thess 2:7 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.


2Thes 2:7 musterion anomias ede energeitai monon arti katechon eos genētai mesou

2Thes 2:7 mystery lawlessness already work merely now hold until happen midst


I do not see anything about the Holy Spirit not restraining anymore. Only that lawlessness on hold when something happens or changes.


Daniel 10:21 But I will shew thee that which is noted in the scripture of truth: and there is none that holdeth with me in these things, but Michael your prince.


In Daniel it was Michael that helped restrain or hold in the past. Michael also helps in the NT.

Rev 12:7 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,

Rev 12:9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.


Perhaps Michael casting out the Devil in Heaven is the reason for the man of Sin taking power.


Rev 12:17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.


Rev 8:10 And the third angel sounded, and there fell a great star from heaven, burning as it were a lamp, and it fell upon the third part of the rivers, and upon the fountains of waters;

Rev 9:1 And the fifth angel sounded, and I saw a star fall from heaven unto the earth: and to him was given the key of the bottomless pit

Rev 13:4 And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast?
 
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