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APPLE STORE LOOTERS CAN'T USE STOLEN GADGETS ... Safeguards Already In Place

 
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mmm

pretty sure you can jailbreak them and reset them soooooo

lulz
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LOL! Have you seen the looters? Their pants are half way to their knees as they are running out of the stores. Doubt most of them can even find the power button.
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Can we PLEASE stop calling them looters? They are peaceful protesters. They are protesting the murder of an innocent black man.
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mmm

pretty sure you can jailbreak them and reset them soooooo

lulz
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no you cannot. I worked for Apple
 Quoting: Ithacagurl Sedai


hmmm

that's funny because I've done it myself.
 Quoting: ^TrInItY^


You probably jailbreaked an older version of Apple product. The new bloatware products are much more secure than we think.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77932190



jailbreaking the OS isn't the issue.

the telecom protocol requires a valid IMEI.

there's an blacklist IMEI registry that all the telecom
providers reference.


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They don't use them, they sell them for cash to dumb people on craigslist for 25% off retail.
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how soon before we hear cries of "racism" against Apple ?

though I read that on Apple Music today all subcribers are being forced to listen to black music only

maybe that will make up for it ?

me, I'd be cancelling that shit today , and letting them know why
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[link to www.tmz.com (secure)]

Folks who looted the Apple Store at The Grove are in for a rude awakening ... they won't be able to use or pawn the stolen gadgets, thanks to some tech foresight and amateur thievery.

Here's the deal ... while looters probably thought they were getting away with grabbing an expensive toy off the showroom shelves at the Apple Store, they basically ended up with paperweights.

Our sources tell us ... the phones and laptops stolen from the Apple Store are demos, and they come equipped with special programs that prevent the products from being reset to factory settings, rendering them almost useless.
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Same goes for very high end hand bags. They all have individual serial numbers. Good luck trying to sell one.

No one ever said criminals were bright.
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[link to www.tmz.com (secure)]

Folks who looted the Apple Store at The Grove are in for a rude awakening ... they won't be able to use or pawn the stolen gadgets, thanks to some tech foresight and amateur thievery.

Here's the deal ... while looters probably thought they were getting away with grabbing an expensive toy off the showroom shelves at the Apple Store, they basically ended up with paperweights.

Our sources tell us ... the phones and laptops stolen from the Apple Store are demos, and they come equipped with special programs that prevent the products from being reset to factory settings, rendering them almost useless.
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Swap out the drives and flash memory and NVRam then re-programme.
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no you cannot. I worked for Apple
 Quoting: Ithacagurl Sedai


hmmm

that's funny because I've done it myself.
 Quoting: ^TrInItY^


You probably jailbreaked an older version of Apple product. The new bloatware products are much more secure than we think.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77932190



jailbreaking the OS isn't the issue.

the telecom protocol requires a valid IMEI.

there's an blacklist IMEI registry that all the telecom
providers reference.


.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77933412


Parts only smashed phone off fleabay.
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I wouldn't own an Apple product. Keep that shit.
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I wouldn't own an Apple product. Keep that shit.
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Not without another ECB bailout hiding
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I wouldn't own an Apple product. Keep that shit.
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Not without another ECB bailout hiding
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Not even for free. I don't own a cell phone. I walk that walk.
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Lojack yourselves by all means!
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you can't jailbreak the new OS systems yet.

So they will be waiting for that update

So they will just sell it to some sucker on CL for some $$
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no you cannot. I worked for Apple
 Quoting: Ithacagurl Sedai


hmmm

that's funny because I've done it myself.
 Quoting: ^TrInItY^


You probably jailbreaked an older version of Apple product. The new bloatware products are much more secure than we think.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77932190


yeah it was a much older version actually

I haven't done it in a long time...
 Quoting: ^TrInItY^


Make it a fun weekend project!
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They could just steal a drill and drill holes in them to make ghetto bling necklaces.
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Apple learned quickly after the string of smash & grabs at California Apple stores last year.
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Apple is 100% anti theft.
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hmmm

that's funny because I've done it myself.
 Quoting: ^TrInItY^


You probably jailbreaked an older version of Apple product. The new bloatware products are much more secure than we think.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77932190



jailbreaking the OS isn't the issue.

the telecom protocol requires a valid IMEI.

there's an blacklist IMEI registry that all the telecom
providers reference.


.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77933412


IMEI can easily be spoofed
 Quoting: ^TrInItY^



have you done it?

it can reprogrammed in firmware but I doubt it can be
spoofed. other products I've worked on have a two-key
system, you need the original encryption key to generate
the 2nd and the client only has a decoder.

yeah, it looks like you can do a hardware bypass,
so there's the check against the 2nd key always passes.

[link to www.firstpost.com (secure)]

you'd need some specialized hardware but probably
not that expensive.
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mmm

pretty sure you can jailbreak them and reset them soooooo

lulz
 Quoting: ^TrInItY^


You don't know shit.

Look here bud.

A 1gb HD that is non rewriteable with OS only...

Good luck jailbreaking that..
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hmmm

that's funny because I've done it myself.
 Quoting: ^TrInItY^


You probably jailbreaked an older version of Apple product. The new bloatware products are much more secure than we think.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77932190



jailbreaking the OS isn't the issue.

the telecom protocol requires a valid IMEI.

there's an blacklist IMEI registry that all the telecom
providers reference.


.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77933412


IMEI can easily be spoofed
 Quoting: ^TrInItY^


When you are hacking people's phones the IMEI is fucking precious ain't it.
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You probably jailbreaked an older version of Apple product. The new bloatware products are much more secure than we think.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77932190



jailbreaking the OS isn't the issue.

the telecom protocol requires a valid IMEI.

there's an blacklist IMEI registry that all the telecom
providers reference.


.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77933412


IMEI can easily be spoofed
 Quoting: ^TrInItY^



have you done it?

it can reprogrammed in firmware but I doubt it can be
spoofed. other products I've worked on have a two-key
system, you need the original encryption key to generate
the 2nd and the client only has a decoder.

yeah, it looks like you can do a hardware bypass,
so there's the check against the 2nd key always passes.

[link to www.firstpost.com (secure)]

you'd need some specialized hardware but probably
not that expensive.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77933412


"The phone would then be connected to a device bought from a local market, which changed its IMEI number electronically."

the fact that they're using language like "cracking the IMEI" tells me there's some kind of 2-key system like bitcoin or
ethereum. they're probably spoofing with a known IMEI
pair from an existing working phone. That will only
work for a short time, I think.
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hmmm

that's funny because I've done it myself.
 Quoting: ^TrInItY^


You probably jailbreaked an older version of Apple product. The new bloatware products are much more secure than we think.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77932190


yeah it was a much older version actually

I haven't done it in a long time...
 Quoting: ^TrInItY^


Make it a fun weekend project!
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Dude who ever this is, is a fuckin theif.
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Apple was a joke when they first got started.
I remember Steve Jobs said he was going to
change education as we knew it, and he did.
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lol
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[link to www.tmz.com (secure)]

Folks who looted the Apple Store at The Grove are in for a rude awakening ... they won't be able to use or pawn the stolen gadgets, thanks to some tech foresight and amateur thievery.

Here's the deal ... while looters probably thought they were getting away with grabbing an expensive toy off the showroom shelves at the Apple Store, they basically ended up with paperweights.

Our sources tell us ... the phones and laptops stolen from the Apple Store are demos, and they come equipped with special programs that prevent the products from being reset to factory settings, rendering them almost useless.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77932190


Linux USB .iso has entered the chat
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lovinpost
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I'm sure Apple will unlock them in solidarity with the movement.
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You probably jailbreaked an older version of Apple product. The new bloatware products are much more secure than we think.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77932190



jailbreaking the OS isn't the issue.

the telecom protocol requires a valid IMEI.

there's an blacklist IMEI registry that all the telecom
providers reference.


.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77933412


IMEI can easily be spoofed
 Quoting: ^TrInItY^


When you are hacking people's phones the IMEI is fucking precious ain't it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77024704


I spent a little time on this back when my iphone was
stolen. Revisiting it in more detail because I'm bored.

[link to security.stackexchange.com (secure)]

"The IMEI is not a hash. It is a (usually) unique identifier for mobile devices which are GSM capable. When a phone is placed on the barred list, the carriers all get a copy of this list, and their towers will simply send back a "barred" rejection if a barred IMEI tries to register on the system.

The hardware's support for programming the IMEI is variable, though many baseband implementations nowadays have a write lock which can't be undone once set (at least without serious trickery). The usual way in which people get around barred IMEIs is to take a non-barred donor board from another device with severe physical damage (e.g. smashed screen and case) but with an otherwise functioning mainboard"

so the IMEI in native state is just a key,
but there are vendor-specific schemes which
add an encryption scheme. Hackers are using
working IMEIs from broken phones, which makes
a lot of sense since you probably can't
resurrect that number anyway.
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[link to www.tmz.com (secure)]

Folks who looted the Apple Store at The Grove are in for a rude awakening ... they won't be able to use or pawn the stolen gadgets, thanks to some tech foresight and amateur thievery.

Here's the deal ... while looters probably thought they were getting away with grabbing an expensive toy off the showroom shelves at the Apple Store, they basically ended up with paperweights.

Our sources tell us ... the phones and laptops stolen from the Apple Store are demos, and they come equipped with special programs that prevent the products from being reset to factory settings, rendering them almost useless.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77932190


who would want apple anyway they can keep that broke ass shit fuck china
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jailbreaking the OS isn't the issue.

the telecom protocol requires a valid IMEI.

there's an blacklist IMEI registry that all the telecom
providers reference.


.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77933412


IMEI can easily be spoofed
 Quoting: ^TrInItY^


When you are hacking people's phones the IMEI is fucking precious ain't it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77024704


I spent a little time on this back when my iphone was
stolen. Revisiting it in more detail because I'm bored.

[link to security.stackexchange.com (secure)]

"The IMEI is not a hash. It is a (usually) unique identifier for mobile devices which are GSM capable. When a phone is placed on the barred list, the carriers all get a copy of this list, and their towers will simply send back a "barred" rejection if a barred IMEI tries to register on the system.

The hardware's support for programming the IMEI is variable, though many baseband implementations nowadays have a write lock which can't be undone once set (at least without serious trickery). The usual way in which people get around barred IMEIs is to take a non-barred donor board from another device with severe physical damage (e.g. smashed screen and case) but with an otherwise functioning mainboard"

so the IMEI in native state is just a key,
but there are vendor-specific schemes which
add an encryption scheme. Hackers are using
working IMEIs from broken phones, which makes
a lot of sense since you probably can't
resurrect that number anyway.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77933412



yeah, so I reverse-engineered it pretty close.

"From what I've read, modern iOS devices implement NCK using something analogous to public key cryptography, with the carrier unlock data sent via SMS"


Basically a 2-key system like bitcoin.

Not bad for a genius retard.
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i also heard the Amazon vans, USP truck and FedEx trucks were preloaded with tracking, as to why the doors were easily accessed to be opened. It was all bait.
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I hope they ways of ensuring every looter goes to prison.





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