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6mm ARC - new rifle round out for AR-15 platform... rifles and rounds have been sent to military.

 
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Turn in your guns ! They hurt people.
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Add a great quality 1-8 scope with a NV dot and we will have a war winner.

Still in the light and handy AR-15 platform.
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Don't mean nothing if you afraid to use it.epiclol
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If you're afraid to use it you certainly dont need to little timmy.
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Anyone else but me,try out the 350 legend? Pretty inexpensive ammo, not a far reacher but hits hard.

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Hm, that's interesting; last I heard they were looking for a 6.8mm replacement. But it sounds like they're going to adopt this 6mm ARC; according to gunsandammo.com

I heard the 25-06 designer decided on the diameter due to the bullets terminal performance over it's ballistic capabilities.

What do you think of their .338 norma magnum replacement for the 7.62 nato?
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.300 Norma for anti-personnel

.338 Norma for anti-material

Both are in the Barrett MRAD.

I agree with the .300 Norma completely.

But they think the .338 Norma will replace the .50 BMG, and I strongly disagree.



They better hang onto the Barrett .50 cals. and their Raufoss rounds. There is no replacing those with any .338 caliber.
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First I've heard they're looking to include the 300 norma. I thought the army decided against having more than a couple primary rounds for infantry to use.

Some complaints are that the norma mags are so long and it would cause too much of a drop in ROF.

So why not a 300 SAUM? You can keep the 7.62 bullets and retain more ROF as well as a boost in effective range.
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Hm, that's interesting; last I heard they were looking for a 6.8mm replacement. But it sounds like they're going to adopt this 6mm ARC; according to gunsandammo.com

I heard the 25-06 designer decided on the diameter due to the bullets terminal performance over it's ballistic capabilities.

What do you think of their .338 norma magnum replacement for the 7.62 nato?
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.300 Norma for anti-personnel

.338 Norma for anti-material

Both are in the Barrett MRAD.

I agree with the .300 Norma completely.

But they think the .338 Norma will replace the .50 BMG, and I strongly disagree.



They better hang onto the Barrett .50 cals. and their Raufoss rounds. There is no replacing those with any .338 caliber.
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First I've heard they're looking to include the 300 norma. I thought the army decided against having more than a couple primary rounds for infantry to use.

Some complaints are that the norma mags are so long and it would cause too much of a drop in ROF.

So why not a 300 SAUM? You can keep the 7.62 bullets and retain more ROF as well as a boost in effective range.
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In the Barrett MRAD it is the very best in the world.

"The United States Special Operations Command (SOCOM) has selected .300 Norma Magnum as their new Advanced Sniper Rifle Cartridge (2016)."

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Kamala Harris is not a Natural Born Citizen. She's illegally running.

Used by the Founders...
Book I of The Law of Nations, Chapter XIX, § 212 (Joseph Chitty numbering) – “Citizens and natives”
reads: 'The citizens are the members of the civil society; bound to this society by certain duties, and subject to
its authority, they equally participate in its advantages. The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in
the country, of parents who are citizens. As the society cannot exist and perpetuate itself otherwise than by
the children of the citizens
, those children naturally follow the condition of their fathers, and succeed to all
their rights.' 1758 Emerich de Vattel

Oh' What the Hell, do I look like I want to die in some nursing home one day...
America must have 4 new Constitutional Amendments...
1. Drug Tests and Mental Evaluations on all politicians and judges randomly five times per year.
2. Term Limits for Federal politicians and judges.
3. Mental and health standards for Supreme Court Justices and retirement age set.
4. A 'Star Chamber' of elected Natural Born Citizens (no attorney's) to ivestigate, try, and prosecute the politicians and government employee's as they see fit.

Mandatory death penalty by public hanging is the merciful sentence for pedos and their associates.

Democrats are a WMD, literally.

Let Justice Be Done Though The Heavens Fall.
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Whats the norma designation for? The charge is loaded to notma spec? Full house?
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You better acknowledge me. My feelers are getting hurt.
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You better acknowledge me. My feelers are getting hurt.
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lol That'll get you started.
Kamala Harris is not a Natural Born Citizen. She's illegally running.

Used by the Founders...
Book I of The Law of Nations, Chapter XIX, § 212 (Joseph Chitty numbering) – “Citizens and natives”
reads: 'The citizens are the members of the civil society; bound to this society by certain duties, and subject to
its authority, they equally participate in its advantages. The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in
the country, of parents who are citizens. As the society cannot exist and perpetuate itself otherwise than by
the children of the citizens
, those children naturally follow the condition of their fathers, and succeed to all
their rights.' 1758 Emerich de Vattel

Oh' What the Hell, do I look like I want to die in some nursing home one day...
America must have 4 new Constitutional Amendments...
1. Drug Tests and Mental Evaluations on all politicians and judges randomly five times per year.
2. Term Limits for Federal politicians and judges.
3. Mental and health standards for Supreme Court Justices and retirement age set.
4. A 'Star Chamber' of elected Natural Born Citizens (no attorney's) to ivestigate, try, and prosecute the politicians and government employee's as they see fit.

Mandatory death penalty by public hanging is the merciful sentence for pedos and their associates.

Democrats are a WMD, literally.

Let Justice Be Done Though The Heavens Fall.
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You better acknowledge me. My feelers are getting hurt.
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Feelers? Are you an insect?
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Didnt i read the 6.5 was supposed to replace the 5.56?
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So like I said its a rifle version of a .357sig. necked down from.40s&w to .357
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6mm ARC is just a 6mm version of the 6.5 Grendel

Its the govt. They will never figure out what they want or need and spend billions trying to.

I guess the 6mmx45 or 6mm-223 wasnt enough

Compare the ARC to the Valkyrie

Would've been easier to produce a 6mm SPC????
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6mm ARC is just a 6mm version of the 6.5 Grendel

Its the govt. They will never figure out what they want or need and spend billions trying to.

I guess the 6mmx45 or 6mm-223 wasnt enough

Compare the ARC to the Valkyrie

Would've been easier to produce a 6mm SPC????
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It usually takes another war to decide on a new design.
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Very exciting. I bet this might be the new standard military round soon.

Beating the socks off the 5.56.
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Probably not. The army and USMC both recently completed reviews and chose 5.56 again even with the effectiveness of the 6.5 Creedmore fully understood. It isn't just about round effectiveness and lethality, there are many other factors involved. The battle load for the diminutive 5.56 is much higher than most rounds, it is cheaper, the barrel life for M16s is exceptional and the carry weight is very light. There are also benefits for wounding rather than outright killing a target. And of course, there is a massive supply chain already in place.
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What about the .300 AAC Blackout round?

I thought that was going to be a "new standard" round.

It's a hybrid between the AR and AK round, comes in subsonic and supersonic. Plus it's been around for a while and works on the AR-15 platform, just switch out uppers and you're ready to go...
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1040 fps is subsonic
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...


That's the purpose of The Second Amendment.

Their not supposed to make the enemy happy.
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Ok.
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But a laughing gun, making people roll around in mirth, would be awesome.

You invent one for us.
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I wish I could be there for the instant that chick's perception of reality shifts from the delusion of youth to the cold hard reality of adulthood. Then I'd play that little clip for her. LOL.

Reminds me of yesterday when I stopped in to get a smoothy & was waiting for it. Some hippy chick about her age came walking in wearing super short shorts, trendy sneakers and a cute t-shirt. But she was covered from head to toe in bug bites. I heard her tell the clerk that she was homeless and that her boyfriend had kicked her out. She knows now.

Anyway...I saw that new ammo...can't wait to try it!
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Ok so you have $hit loads of 5.56 barrels out there.

What kind of confusion in the field is a 6mm round
going to introduce when in fire fights and mixed weapons?
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If the military decided they really wanted to go all in, they could order uppers to the M4 platform. All members know how to take down, so they'd be able to swap bcg and upper in matter of seconds. So, it really could work better than the 6.5 they were working on, that took a whole knew complete rifle.
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I should be able to get a lot of 223 cheap then!
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The only downside to this, because it seems pretty impressive, is the throat bore wear being supper high. I'm interested in building one of these, and I thought I was done... Lol
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Turn in your guns ! They hurt people.
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GUNS don't hurt people....
PEOPLE HURT PEOPLE!
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Very exciting. I bet this might be the new standard military round soon.

Beating the socks off the 5.56.
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There have been articles recently about 6.8mm having been selected by the Army for the next generation's caliber.
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Reminds me of the 6mm BR - may be worthwhile to build one when the Uppers and Barrels become available. May need to swap out mag followers on some mags too, unless they don't need that done to function correctly.
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.357sig*
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meme round

like the fbi 40s&w
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Probably being tested and used by SF.


Hornady - 6mm ARC 105 gr. Ballistic Coefficient .530 G1

Barrett - REC7 24 round mags.

18 inch barrel...

Muz. - V. 2618 fps. E. 1598 ft.lb

450 yards - V. 1958 fps. E. 894 ft. lb. Deer

850 yards - V. 1472 fps. E. 505 ft. lb. Anti-personnel

1425 yards - V. 1040 fps. Still Supersonic


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Looks like a winner!! these two things really stand out.
1) Shooter can self-spot impacts on or off target to make rapid adjustments.
2) High velocity with just an 18" barrel... I have to wonder how long the barrel will last?? (is it a barrel burner??)
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Add a great quality 1-8 scope with a NV dot and we will have a war winner.

Still in the light and handy AR-15 platform.
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Don't mean nothing if you afraid to use it.epiclol
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Because the AR platform needs another round...


List of current available options:

.17 Mach IV
.17 Remington Fireball
.17 Remington[1]
.17-223[3]
.20 Practical[4]
.204 Ruger[1]
.222 Remington
.223 Remington
.22 PPC
.22 Nosler
.224 Valkyrie
.224 Kritzeck (Shortened .223 remington neck)[6]
.223 Winchester Super Short Magnum[5]
.243 LBC[3]
.243 Winchester Super Short Magnum[5]
.25 Winchester Super Short Magnum[5]
.25-45 Sharps
.277 Wolverine (6.8×39mm)
.30 Carbine[1]
.30 Remington AR[7]
30 American[8]
300 OSSM[5]
300 AAC Blackout (7.62×35mm)[7]
.300 Whisper[7]
.350 Legend[9]
300 HAM'R - Wilson Combat[10]
358 Yeti - Wildcat[11]
375 SOCOM
.40 S&W[12]
.45 ACP[13]
.450 Bushmaster[1]
.458 SOCOM[14]
.50 Action Express
.50 Beowulf[15]
5.45×39mm[1]
5.56×45mm NATO
FN 5.7×28mm
6×45mm
6.5mm Grendel[1]
6.8×39mm (.277 Wolverine)[16][17]
6.8mm Remington SPC[7]
7.62×37mm Musang
7.62×39mm[7]
7.62×40mm Wilson Tactical[7]
7.92x33mm Kurz
9×19mm Parabellum[2]
10mm Auto[13]
9×39mm[18]


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I stocked up on green-tip ammo...I can put a round anywhere I want with precision, but I really don't see the need to kill something a mile away...the only drawback is I'm not allowed to shoot them at the indoor range nearby...so I just buy a couple boxes to plink with when I go...
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What's special about the green-tipped ammo Brief?
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Because the AR platform needs another round...


List of current available options:

.17 Mach IV
.17 Remington Fireball
.17 Remington[1]
.17-223[3]
.20 Practical[4]
.204 Ruger[1]
.222 Remington
.223 Remington
.22 PPC
.22 Nosler
.224 Valkyrie
.224 Kritzeck (Shortened .223 remington neck)[6]
.223 Winchester Super Short Magnum[5]
.243 LBC[3]
.243 Winchester Super Short Magnum[5]
.25 Winchester Super Short Magnum[5]
.25-45 Sharps
.277 Wolverine (6.8×39mm)
.30 Carbine[1]
.30 Remington AR[7]
30 American[8]
300 OSSM[5]
300 AAC Blackout (7.62×35mm)[7]
.300 Whisper[7]
.350 Legend[9]
300 HAM'R - Wilson Combat[10]
358 Yeti - Wildcat[11]
375 SOCOM
.40 S&W[12]
.45 ACP[13]
.450 Bushmaster[1]
.458 SOCOM[14]
.50 Action Express
.50 Beowulf[15]
5.45×39mm[1]
5.56×45mm NATO
FN 5.7×28mm
6×45mm
6.5mm Grendel[1]
6.8×39mm (.277 Wolverine)[16][17]
6.8mm Remington SPC[7]
7.62×37mm Musang
7.62×39mm[7]
7.62×40mm Wilson Tactical[7]
7.92x33mm Kurz
9×19mm Parabellum[2]
10mm Auto[13]
9×39mm[18]


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