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Here’s Why Bad Cops Aren’t Held Accountable

 
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It's the unions....which are controlled by democrats (and sometimes by mobsters). Who knew?

"In the culture wars of our time, each side has preferred heroes. For the left, it has long been teachers, who are regarded as selfless public servants. For the right, it’s the police, for the same reasons. Criticizing either one will get the same rebuke from supporters: “Have you done that job?!? It’s the hardest job on earth and they get paid very little for their service.”

It shouldn’t surprise conservatives that police unions significantly contribute to police misbehavior. After all, conservatives have long understood that teachers unions are a big source of the dysfunction in our education system and an impediment to meaningful reform. It is the job of a union to protect the job of the worst worker as much as the best one. Consequently, teachers unions don’t only ensure that bad teachers remain on the job, they can corrupt the incentive structures of an entire district. Soon, it’s not just a few bad apples, but the barrel itself that’s rotten.

Some of the problems occur at the self-selection stage. A great many people would like to be teachers but they don’t want to deal with the rigmarole of the teachers union. Moreover, because teachers unions have fought against performance pay, particularly performance pay related to education outcomes, those who feel that they can excel by delivering better education outcomes are often dissuaded from innovating or even becoming teachers in the first place. As one study found, “unions tend to encourage teacher bonuses that are based on additional qualifications or duties, but discourage bonuses that directly reward improved student test scores.”

None of this is news to conservatives, and teachers unions have thankfully been declining in popularity. Now it is time to apply the same lessons to police unions, where there are many of the same pathologies."

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Same problem down here, you are right.

Unionised groups don't give a shit about any others in the country except what they want and demand.
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That and the majority of police/cops are bad.

If they were in the minority, they would be weeded out, but they are not.

The "good" cops doing nothing about the bad cops have chosen a side, and its not yours.
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They like them with low IQ also..... Fact.
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Behind every bad cop are 5 cops who looked the other way.

Behind every bad cop there are 5 more bad cops.
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that is correct, DEMOCRAT run unions.

The one accused this week in Ft. Lauderdale has been accused

of using excessive force 71 times and has never been fired.
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cops would never be any better until an emotional intelligence test is developed that will weed out the malformed miscreants - of course the reality is that the system wants dumb guys who prefer to settle things with their fists and just intelligent enough to be competent to follow orders
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There should also be a test to weed out psychopaths.
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They like them with low IQ also..... Fact.
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Yes. Both Police AND teachers.
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I read that it was the Supreme court's fault. Case after case is ruled in favor of bad cops.
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That and the majority of police/cops are bad.

If they were in the minority, they would be weeded out, but they are not.

The "good" cops doing nothing about the bad cops have chosen a side, and its not yours.
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There should also be a test to weed out psychopaths.
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The Minnesota Multiphasic Personality Inventory (MMPI). Who new.

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That and the majority of police/cops are bad.

If they were in the minority, they would be weeded out, but they are not.

The "good" cops doing nothing about the bad cops have chosen a side, and its not yours.
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That can be corrected by new laws, wherein a cop is required to report another cop who violates procedure

MINNEAPOLIS) — Negotiators for the city of Minneapolis have agreed with the state to ban the use of chokeholds by police and to require police to report and intervene anytime they see an unauthorized use of force by another officer.

The moves are part of a stipulation between the city and the Minnesota Department of Human Rights, which launched a civil rights investigation this week in response to the death of George Floyd in police custody. The City Council is expected to approve the agreement Friday.

The agreement, which will be enforceable in court, would require any officer, regardless of tenure or rank, to immediately report the use of any neck restraint or choke hold from the scene to their commander or their commander’s superiors.

Similarly, any officer who sees another officer commit any unauthorized use of force, including any choke hold or neck restraint, must try to intervene verbally and even physically. If they don’t, they’d be subject to discipline as severe as if they themselves had used the prohibited force.

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I read that it was the Supreme court's fault. Case after case is ruled in favor of bad cops.
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The reason why is that law enforcement officers have no legal duty to protect the public per SCOTUS rulings. Then to top it off, The U.S. Supreme Court first introduced the qualified immunity doctrine in 1967.

“Neither the Constitution, nor state law, impose a general duty upon police officers or other governmental officials to protect individual persons from harm — even when they know the harm will occur,” said Darren L. Hutchinson, a professor and associate dean at the University of Florida School of Law. “Police can watch someone attack you, refuse to intervene and not violate the Constitution.”

The Supreme Court has repeatedly held that the government has only a duty to protect persons who are “in custody,” he pointed out.

less than 50 percent

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is it the same when doctors accidently kill, bad doctor?
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It's the unions....which are controlled by democrats (and sometimes by mobsters). Who knew?

"In the culture wars of our time, each side has preferred heroes. For the left, it has long been teachers, who are regarded as selfless public servants. For the right, it’s the police, for the same reasons. Criticizing either one will get the same rebuke from supporters: “Have you done that job?!? It’s the hardest job on earth and they get paid very little for their service.”

It shouldn’t surprise conservatives that police unions significantly contribute to police misbehavior. After all, conservatives have long understood that teachers unions are a big source of the dysfunction in our education system and an impediment to meaningful reform. It is the job of a union to protect the job of the worst worker as much as the best one. Consequently, teachers unions don’t only ensure that bad teachers remain on the job, they can corrupt the incentive structures of an entire district. Soon, it’s not just a few bad apples, but the barrel itself that’s rotten.

Some of the problems occur at the self-selection stage. A great many people would like to be teachers but they don’t want to deal with the rigmarole of the teachers union. Moreover, because teachers unions have fought against performance pay, particularly performance pay related to education outcomes, those who feel that they can excel by delivering better education outcomes are often dissuaded from innovating or even becoming teachers in the first place. As one study found, “unions tend to encourage teacher bonuses that are based on additional qualifications or duties, but discourage bonuses that directly reward improved student test scores.”

None of this is news to conservatives, and teachers unions have thankfully been declining in popularity. Now it is time to apply the same lessons to police unions, where there are many of the same pathologies."

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Cops convicted of murder should be the subject of public hangings
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It's the unions....which are controlled by democrats (and sometimes by mobsters). Who knew?

"In the culture wars of our time, each side has preferred heroes. For the left, it has long been teachers, who are regarded as selfless public servants. For the right, it’s the police, for the same reasons. Criticizing either one will get the same rebuke from supporters: “Have you done that job?!? It’s the hardest job on earth and they get paid very little for their service.”

It shouldn’t surprise conservatives that police unions significantly contribute to police misbehavior. After all, conservatives have long understood that teachers unions are a big source of the dysfunction in our education system and an impediment to meaningful reform. It is the job of a union to protect the job of the worst worker as much as the best one. Consequently, teachers unions don’t only ensure that bad teachers remain on the job, they can corrupt the incentive structures of an entire district. Soon, it’s not just a few bad apples, but the barrel itself that’s rotten.

Some of the problems occur at the self-selection stage. A great many people would like to be teachers but they don’t want to deal with the rigmarole of the teachers union. Moreover, because teachers unions have fought against performance pay, particularly performance pay related to education outcomes, those who feel that they can excel by delivering better education outcomes are often dissuaded from innovating or even becoming teachers in the first place. As one study found, “unions tend to encourage teacher bonuses that are based on additional qualifications or duties, but discourage bonuses that directly reward improved student test scores.”

None of this is news to conservatives, and teachers unions have thankfully been declining in popularity. Now it is time to apply the same lessons to police unions, where there are many of the same pathologies."

REad more here - [link to dailycaller.com (secure)]
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spot on observation.
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Proof: Democrats hold up legislation on police reform
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More from the linked article (obviously some things need to change)

"Those bad officers are extremely difficult to fire, and that’s almost entirely due to police unions. Unions have set up drawn-out arbitration processes that often reinstate officers who are fired for obvious breaches of conduct. Police around the country are also protected by Law Enforcement Officers’ Bills of Rights (LEOBR), usually passed with the backing of unions, that offer accused officers protections that far exceed what normal citizens are offered. Whereas police can drag you into custody and ask you questions without telling you about the investigation or the charges being considered, LEBORs allow officers to have “cooling off periods” of anywhere from two to 10 days after an incident such as a shooting. During that time, an officer can concoct a story that justifies their actions.

Of course, most officers don’t willfully lie, but for the truly bad apples, the ones who consistently physically assault, batter, verbally abuse, and otherwise exceed their authority, would it be surprising that they’d be willing to lie about what happened?"

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They like them with low IQ also..... Fact.
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Yes. Both Police AND teachers.
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End nepotisim and favortisim in the police force... bad officers wont rise
Never happen...
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It is ironic how it is Conservatives stick up for cops and have the biggest union in the country.
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That and the majority of police/cops are bad.

If they were in the minority, they would be weeded out, but they are not.

The "good" cops doing nothing about the bad cops have chosen a side, and its not yours.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78998154


Something like 80% of cops said they have seen officer misconduct & not reported it. Misdemeanor exonerations are rare, but the 2nd most common reason is that cops assaulted them, & lied & forced an innocent defendent to plead guilty to assaulting the officer-these cases only come to light when the officer's behavior is so egregious he gets in trouble for something else & past behavior comes to light.
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It is ironic how it is Conservatives stick up for cops and have the biggest union in the country.
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Conservatives prosper in a law abiding world.
Ultimately, no police are needed in 100 % conservative area
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and bad cops make good patsies so you want to have plenty of them around

you know

for staged fuck hoaxes lock floyd
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It is ironic how it is Conservatives stick up for cops and have the biggest union in the country.
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Conservatives prosper in a law abiding world.
Ultimately, no police are needed in 100 % conservative area
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 39944551


Conservatives are all about money and less freedom.
They want the maximum number of regulations on humans and no regulations on business.
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that is correct, DEMOCRAT run unions.

The one accused this week in Ft. Lauderdale has been accused

of using excessive force 71 times and has never been fired.
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^^^Yep.
A Democrat created problem used to push an agenda.
S.O.P. for Democrats.
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It is ironic how it is Conservatives stick up for cops and have the biggest union in the country.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78984831


Conservatives prosper in a law abiding world.
Ultimately, no police are needed in 100 % conservative area
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 39944551


Conservatives are all about money and less freedom.
They want the maximum number of regulations on humans and no regulations on business.
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You obviously know nothing about Conservatives.
Being Conservative has nothing to do with Republicans.
and Democrats are no different than the Republicans.

Educate yourself.
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It's the unions....which are controlled by democrats (and sometimes by mobsters). Who knew?

"In the culture wars of our time, each side has preferred heroes. For the left, it has long been teachers, who are regarded as selfless public servants. For the right, it’s the police, for the same reasons. Criticizing either one will get the same rebuke from supporters: “Have you done that job?!? It’s the hardest job on earth and they get paid very little for their service.”

It shouldn’t surprise conservatives that police unions significantly contribute to police misbehavior. After all, conservatives have long understood that teachers unions are a big source of the dysfunction in our education system and an impediment to meaningful reform. It is the job of a union to protect the job of the worst worker as much as the best one. Consequently, teachers unions don’t only ensure that bad teachers remain on the job, they can corrupt the incentive structures of an entire district. Soon, it’s not just a few bad apples, but the barrel itself that’s rotten.

Some of the problems occur at the self-selection stage. A great many people would like to be teachers but they don’t want to deal with the rigmarole of the teachers union. Moreover, because teachers unions have fought against performance pay, particularly performance pay related to education outcomes, those who feel that they can excel by delivering better education outcomes are often dissuaded from innovating or even becoming teachers in the first place. As one study found, “unions tend to encourage teacher bonuses that are based on additional qualifications or duties, but discourage bonuses that directly reward improved student test scores.”

None of this is news to conservatives, and teachers unions have thankfully been declining in popularity. Now it is time to apply the same lessons to police unions, where there are many of the same pathologies."

REad more here - [link to dailycaller.com (secure)]
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I'm not sure about all this. I've never been impressed by teachers OR Cops. Teachers are the brain washers and the cops are the instruments of oppression.
I don't have the time or the crayons to explain this to you.



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