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The "Corporate Wars": The Forgotten Premise of the Original "Rollerball" Film of 1976

 
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This is a thread of mine from another site from 10 years ago, and contains a quote from ejumcut.org

ROLLERBALL takes place in a near future in which nations, bankrupt and defeated in the “corporate wars” no one quite remembers, have been replaced by the “majors,” multinational monopolies dividing control of the six sectors of the economy: Transport, Food, Communications, Housing, Luxury, and Energy. A superficially reasonable (in the sense that laissez-faire capitalism is also “reasonable”) premise here is that the abolition of nations, with their “tribal warfare,” and the establishment of sound business practices in the running of the world could and would lead to an economy of abundance, in which some are privileged, but in which all are provided for. “Corporate Society,” in the words of Energy executive Bartholemew, “was an inevitable destiny, a material dream world.” Most everyone we see agrees. Moonpie, a rollerball player, says, “We're livin’ good, you know we are,” and Ella, former wife of superstar Jonathan E. (James Caan), favorably presents the ruling, ideology: “They have control, economically and politically, but they also provide.”

And provide they do. No scene between the games reveals less than conspicuous luxury. But the ideological line is drawn late in the film. by Jonathan, answering Ella’s statement above: “People made a choice back then between having all them nice things, and freedom.” “But comfort is freedom,” Ella answers, and he adds, “Them privileges just buy us off.” As Bartholemew puts it, “All [Corporate Society] asks, all it has ever asked of anyone, is not to interfere with management decisions.”

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 Quoting: ejumpcut.org




Sound familiar? It should.

It's the world we live in now, the exception being we're not far along enough in the New World Order to have "forgotten" how we got here.

But that's coming soon.

The dumbing down will continue, internet sites will be seized, information will be manipulated, changed, "lost" or expunged and all our attentions will turn even more than now to the bright shiny things that mindless entertainment and consumerism will offer in place of critical thinking.

I'd like to see what other members have to say about this. Is this scenario accurate/ Have I overstated things?


- WGON, 2010
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Thread: FOLKS: We are all in deep trouble and there is nothing any of us can do about it. (Page 6)

You literally have big corporations clamoring to overturn voter election laws that, if overturned, would lead to one party authoritarian rule.

The takeover is happening.
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Interesting, OP
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Thread: FOLKS: We are all in deep trouble and there is nothing any of us can do about it. (Page 6)

You literally have big corporations clamoring to overturn voter election laws that, if overturned, would lead to one party authoritarian rule.

The takeover is happening.
 Quoting: Fluxster


clintyes
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I put Rollerball up thier with Idiocracy in defining future concepts sold as cheap entertainment, while giving the viewer an honest look into the future.
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They've been planning this crap for
a long time. At this juncture, it will
be very hard to break out of it.
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Great post. Almost daily I reflect back on all the sci-fi I grew up reading. Harlan Ellison, J.G. Ballard, Philip K. Dick, Orwell, Huxley, Heinlein, Bradbury, Gibson, even Albert Camus qualifies. All of it closely resembling this very day. It's haunting.

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Economists saw this coming for decades. Susan Strange wrote about it her 1996 book 'The Retreat of the State: The Diffusion of Power in the World Economy' (Cambridge Studies in International Relations, Series Number 49)

"Who is really in charge of the world economy? Not only governments, argues Susan Strange in The Retreat of the State. Big businesses, drug barons, insurers, accountants and international bureaucrats all encroach on the so-called sovereignty of the state. Professor Strange examines the implications of this rivalry and points to some new directions for research in international relations, international business and economics."

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This 2003 documentary 'The Corporation' also foresaw where we were headed:



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"Based on Joel Bakan’s bestseller The Corporation: The Pathological Pursuit of Profit and Power, this 26-award-winning documentary explores a corporation’s inner workings, curious history, controversial impacts and possible futures. One hundred and fifty years ago, a corporation was a relatively insignificant entity. Today, it is a vivid, dramatic, and pervasive presence in all our lives. Like the Church, the Monarchy and the Communist Party in other times and places, a corporation is today’s dominant institution. Charting the rise of such an institution aimed at achieving specific economic goals, the documentary also recounts victories against this apparently invincible force."
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The Corporations gave their heroes beautiful wives. GAVE them to them.


Tell me Mitch McConnell swooned Elaine Chao off her feet after Harry Reid stole his wife. But if she was a gift...it makes more sense.

Others like Kerry and the Heinz family fit this mold.
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Rollerball 'Freedom vs Comfort'



From the movie "Network"



"You have meddled with the primary forces of nature, Mr Beale, and I won't have it! Is that clear?

You think you merely stopped a business deal. That is not the case. The Arabs have taken billions of dollars out of this country, and now they must put it back! It is ebb and flow, tide and gravity. It is ecological balance.

You are an old man who thinks in terms of nations and peoples. There are no nations. There are no peoples. There are no Russians. There are no Arabs. There are no Third Worlds. There is no West. There is only one holistic system of systems. One vast and immane, interwoven, interacting, multi-varied, multi-national dominion of dollars. Petro-dollars, electro-dollars, multi-dollars, reichmarks, rands, rubles, pounds and shekless.

It is the international system of currency which determines the totality of life on this planet. That is the natural order of things today. That is the atomic, and sub-atomic and galactic structure of things today.

And YOU have meddled with the primal forces of nature. And you will atone.

Am I getting through to you, Mr Beale?

You get up on your little twenty-one inch screen and howl about America and democracy. There is no America. There is no democracy. There is only IBM and ITT and AT&T, and DuPont, Dow, Union Carbide and Exxon. Those are the nations of the world today.

What do you think the Russians talk about in their Councils of State? Karl Marx? They get out their linear programming charts, statistical decision theories, mini-max solutions, and compute the price-cost probabilities of their transactions and investments, just like we do.

We no longer live in a world of nations and ideologies, Mr Beale. The world is a college of corporations, inexorably determined by the immutable bye-laws of of business. The world is a business, Mr Beale. It has been since man crawled out of the slime.

And our children will live, Mr Beale, to see that ... perfect ... world in which there is no war nor famine, oppression or brutality. One vast and ecumenical holding company for whom all men will work to serve a common profit. In which all men will hold a share of stock.

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The Corporations gave their heroes beautiful wives. GAVE them to them.


Tell me Mitch McConnell swooned Elaine Chao off her feet after Harry Reid stole his wife. But if she was a gift...it makes more sense.

Others like Kerry and the Heinz family fit this mold.
 Quoting: Redcat1


It's rumored that Mitch McConnell is gay and his wife is his handler. Allegedly China had dirt on McConnell from his visits in Thailand and arranged the marriage between the two.

"What is known, though extremely covered up, is that around 1964, Mitch McConnell was thrown out of the US Army for an incident whereby Mitch McConnell propositioned another male solider and grabbed his penis at the same time. The soldier reported this to his superiors, who took action against McConnell.

Mitch McConnell was thrown out of the Army for engaging in homosexual activity, but since he was a Senate aide in the summer, he used the Senator he worked for to pull punches and get the reason Mitch McConnell was thrown out of the Army changed from gay sex to having some sort of eye illness which it turns out he didn’t even have.

The Powers That Be then buried this case so deep that it took a progressive journalist forever digging through US government records to finally figure out what was going on. He was obstructed at every turn of the highway...

...Mitch McConnell has been spotted in Thailand at least once or possibly more than once. Mitch McConnell was seen at private parties in Thailand where wealthy and powerful gay and bisexual American men procure young Thai males for gay sex. In at least one instance, Mitch McConnell was seen with one of his boy-toys at one of these parties..."

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Doesn't take a lot of thought to realize buying for a dime and selling for a dollar was an unsustainable business model.
Conquering and stealing someone else's resources doesn't seem to work well either.
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They've been planning this crap for
a long time. At this juncture, it will
be very hard to break out of it.
 Quoting: Baalphagore



There's really only one way
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Know your true enemy:

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Another textbook example of predictive programming by those in the know.

ROLLERBLADE (1975)

Produced and Directed by Norman Jewison
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If it weren't for Youtube Wikipedia and other sites, history would be lost, and social engineering intensified.
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The Parallax View is a good one. 1974.

Trailer:

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If it weren't for Youtube Wikipedia and other sites, history would be lost, and social engineering intensified.
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Careful what you read on wiki, it's full of 'official truth'.
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What well cared for domesticated animal will turn on its owners? What owner of a domesticated animal understands that animal is only here on the planet because of an ancestral, natural habitat? The animal has forgotten but the breed would struggle or perish if ever put back there.
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Let it go....be more worried about soylent green coming true hahaha
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as much as anyone (dr evil or whatever) WANTS to apply some new "society" to a people

the fact of the matter is..

society arises from the people

society sort of has it's own immune system.
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If it weren't for Youtube Wikipedia and other sites, history would be lost, and social engineering intensified.
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Hah!!

These are the entitles that decide what gets changed and what gets sent down the memory hole.
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This is a thread of mine from another site from 10 years ago, and contains a quote from ejumcut.org

ROLLERBALL takes place in a near future in which nations, bankrupt and defeated in the “corporate wars” no one quite remembers, have been replaced by the “majors,” multinational monopolies dividing control of the six sectors of the economy: Transport, Food, Communications, Housing, Luxury, and Energy. A superficially reasonable (in the sense that laissez-faire capitalism is also “reasonable”) premise here is that the abolition of nations, with their “tribal warfare,” and the establishment of sound business practices in the running of the world could and would lead to an economy of abundance, in which some are privileged, but in which all are provided for. “Corporate Society,” in the words of Energy executive Bartholemew, “was an inevitable destiny, a material dream world.” Most everyone we see agrees. Moonpie, a rollerball player, says, “We're livin’ good, you know we are,” and Ella, former wife of superstar Jonathan E. (James Caan), favorably presents the ruling, ideology: “They have control, economically and politically, but they also provide.”

And provide they do. No scene between the games reveals less than conspicuous luxury. But the ideological line is drawn late in the film. by Jonathan, answering Ella’s statement above: “People made a choice back then between having all them nice things, and freedom.” “But comfort is freedom,” Ella answers, and he adds, “Them privileges just buy us off.” As Bartholemew puts it, “All [Corporate Society] asks, all it has ever asked of anyone, is not to interfere with management decisions.”

[link to www.ejumpcut.org]

 Quoting: ejumpcut.org




Sound familiar? It should.

It's the world we live in now, the exception being we're not far along enough in the New World Order to have "forgotten" how we got here.

But that's coming soon.

The dumbing down will continue, internet sites will be seized, information will be manipulated, changed, "lost" or expunged and all our attentions will turn even more than now to the bright shiny things that mindless entertainment and consumerism will offer in place of critical thinking.

I'd like to see what other members have to say about this. Is this scenario accurate/ Have I overstated things?


- WGON, 2010
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Sadly, yes. Corporateism will ruin us all.
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Lots of 1970s movies contain clues and warnings!!

Look at 1970s movies with today’s sensibilities and you will see the predictive programming. Same with pop music.
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was a pretty good movie for 70's sci fi cheese
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The only Group that might have some control over Corporations are the Bankers....
Still, remember, some corporations have huge cash stockpiles, like Apple...
They have 195 Billion Dollars on hand. So there is that to ponder as well...
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Emanuel Petit, of Arsenal, decried late 90’s Premier League as being “like Rollerball”

He was referring to the out of control Commercialization of football. He was right.
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Lifelong public servant and national hero, President Joe Biden, has our backs and will stop this from happening 5a
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bump
Have no fear, Spock is here!!! LLAP
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movies suck today
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This is a thread of mine from another site from 10 years ago, and contains a quote from ejumcut.org

ROLLERBALL takes place in a near future in which nations, bankrupt and defeated in the “corporate wars” no one quite remembers, have been replaced by the “majors,” multinational monopolies dividing control of the six sectors of the economy: Transport, Food, Communications, Housing, Luxury, and Energy. A superficially reasonable (in the sense that laissez-faire capitalism is also “reasonable”) premise here is that the abolition of nations, with their “tribal warfare,” and the establishment of sound business practices in the running of the world could and would lead to an economy of abundance, in which some are privileged, but in which all are provided for. “Corporate Society,” in the words of Energy executive Bartholemew, “was an inevitable destiny, a material dream world.” Most everyone we see agrees. Moonpie, a rollerball player, says, “We're livin’ good, you know we are,” and Ella, former wife of superstar Jonathan E. (James Caan), favorably presents the ruling, ideology: “They have control, economically and politically, but they also provide.”

And provide they do. No scene between the games reveals less than conspicuous luxury. But the ideological line is drawn late in the film. by Jonathan, answering Ella’s statement above: “People made a choice back then between having all them nice things, and freedom.” “But comfort is freedom,” Ella answers, and he adds, “Them privileges just buy us off.” As Bartholemew puts it, “All [Corporate Society] asks, all it has ever asked of anyone, is not to interfere with management decisions.”

[link to www.ejumpcut.org]

 Quoting: ejumpcut.org




Sound familiar? It should.

It's the world we live in now, the exception being we're not far along enough in the New World Order to have "forgotten" how we got here.

But that's coming soon.

The dumbing down will continue, internet sites will be seized, information will be manipulated, changed, "lost" or expunged and all our attentions will turn even more than now to the bright shiny things that mindless entertainment and consumerism will offer in place of critical thinking.

I'd like to see what other members have to say about this. Is this scenario accurate/ Have I overstated things?


- WGON, 2010
 Quoting: WGON


ROLLUH BALL WUZ IN '75 DOG-BREATH! UH. ;)
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