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The Shooting of Rayshard Brooks was Justified...New Video

 
EliseM1896

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You're incorrect.

Cops and their lawyers have argued again and again that a taser is non-lethal force. Court case after court case when alleged perpetrators have died, police have escaped responsibility because tasers are non-lethal weapons.

Cops getting certified to carry a taser are shot with a taser as part of the process. Because it's non-lethal.

That means that when a suspect pointed a non-lethal weapon and even shot a non-lethal weapon at the cop (who had to have been certified to carry a taser because he was carrying one) that cop knew he was dealing with established non-lethal force.

And unlawfully responded with deadly force against a fleeing suspect who was shot repeatedly in the back and killed.

A cop can't reasonably declare a taser non-lethal while also claiming a taser made them fear for their life. A cop not in fear of losing their life has no legal justification for repeatedly shooting a fleeing suspect.
 Quoting: EliseM1896


They can and will claim that a suspect can tase a cop in order to gain control of his sidearm which justifies lethal force.

 
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Not when he's fleeing, shot repeatedly in the back and trailed by a pack of rabid Cocksuckers On Patrol.
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Here's the run up to the shooting. Body cam falls off and doesn't show it.



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Stupid ass cop should have just let him lock his door and walk to his house like he said!
Now his daughter don’t have a father!
Fuck you police
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They said he was passed out in the restaurant drive thru lane, obstructing traffic at the place. They said cars were having to drive around him to get their food.

If that's the case, should the cops have just let him go? Being a public nuisance while publicly intoxicated is a very common reason to haul someone in.
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They could have confiscated his car keys driven him home.
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They're not a taxi service.
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i got a ride from a state trooper to the next big town while hitchiking.
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if'n you ain't laughin, you ain't payin attention.


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fkn pikers.

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06/14/2020 04:18 AM
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im not sure how anyone can say this was justified. he had a tazer...

but of course he was black so it was justified.

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If he's asleep in his car in a parking lot and not driving then why arrest him? Why not let him sleep it off? Of if they have to remove him from the lot why not just give him a ride home and tow the car? Why arrest him? Yes, it was stupid for him to have fought with the cops and shoot the taser at him but he seems the cops unnecessarily escalated things. Again...if this was a DUI and he was pulled over while driving I'd be more sympathetic to the cops. But the guy was parked and asleep. Gotta side against the cops on this one which is rare for me but they didn't handle this properly.
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hesright

Arresting for a little more than the allowed percentage.

Stupid cops in the US.

Bodycam video from other officer appears to show Rayshard Brooks' blood alcohol level was .108, which would be above the .08 legal limit in Georgia
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You're incorrect.

Cops and their lawyers have argued again and again that a taser is non-lethal force. Court case after court case when alleged perpetrators have died, police have escaped responsibility because tasers are non-lethal weapons.

Cops getting certified to carry a taser are shot with a taser as part of the process. Because it's non-lethal.

That means that when a suspect pointed a non-lethal weapon and even shot a non-lethal weapon at the cop (who had to have been certified to carry a taser because he was carrying one) that cop knew he was dealing with established non-lethal force.

And unlawfully responded with deadly force against a fleeing suspect who was shot repeatedly in the back and killed.

A cop can't reasonably declare a taser non-lethal while also claiming a taser made them fear for their life. A cop not in fear of losing their life has no legal justification for repeatedly shooting a fleeing suspect.
 Quoting: EliseM1896


i had this though too. they can't have it both ways.
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06/14/2020 04:34 AM
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Guy got shot in the back and killed for falling asleep in a drive through

Thats what it boils down to.

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more negroian locic.

he got shot for attacking a police officer,
stealing a weapon and using it.
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06/14/2020 04:39 AM
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It has come out the previous week several cops had been fired for using a taser. The Mayor said it was use with a deadly weapon. If she doesn't recant her statement and reinstate those officers than the officer who shot Brooks will go free because he was defending himself against a deadly weapon.
I think we sometimes fail to understand cops are human with all the emotions any other human has. The police over the last few weeks have been vilified, their city turn against them and called every name in the book. How does this play on one's psyche? Then the cop is in an altercation with a man who was overpowering 2 cops. Do you think, maybe, the adrenaline was flowing? Then Brooks steals the taser, turns and shoots. What would you do?
No where in any of these instances is there any talk about personal responsibility of the person who has broken the law. If Brooks had not resisted arrest, stolen the taser and pulled the trigger he would be alive today. Just something to think about.
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Just keep in mind, you don't need to attack an officer with a non-lethal weapon for the officer to defend himself.

1) Non-lethal weapons as know can kill.
2) When you get fired upon by something that's like a gun, how are you going to defend yourself?
3) You don't have your taser (cause the criminal has it).
4) You going to take out a baton against a ranged weapon?

Come on guys.

First and foremost, the guy was DUI.
Second he resisted arrest
Third he took an officers weapon
Fourth he SHOT at the officers.

WTF?

Am I missing something here, how anyone wouldn't understand where the cop was coming from?
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The cell phone video didn't show the end of the altercation.

Brooks fired the stolen taser at the officer and it's clear as day from surveillance video.

Not good for anyone in this country that this happened. But the truth has to be of utmost importance.

Yeah, it's NBC, but look....3 minutes:


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What you can do: Not resist arrest

What you cannot do: Resist arrest


Any questions?
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Justified my ass!

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This
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Just keep in mind, you don't need to attack an officer with a non-lethal weapon for the officer to defend himself.

1) Non-lethal weapons as know can kill.
2) When you get fired upon by something that's like a gun, how are you going to defend yourself?
3) You don't have your taser (cause the criminal has it).
4) You going to take out a baton against a ranged weapon?

Come on guys.

First and foremost, the guy was DUI.
Second he resisted arrest
Third he took an officers weapon
Fourth he SHOT at the officers.

WTF?

Am I missing something here, how anyone wouldn't understand where the cop was coming from?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24482069


It's Nagger worship...just like Americans love their dogs and cats, they now will tolerate anything from their pet naggers...
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I am a licensed firearm holder. I will, under protection of law, use lethal force if attacked.

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Just keep in mind, you don't need to attack an officer with a non-lethal weapon for the officer to defend himself.

1) Non-lethal weapons as know can kill.
2) When you get fired upon by something that's like a gun, how are you going to defend yourself?
3) You don't have your taser (cause the criminal has it).
4) You going to take out a baton against a ranged weapon?

Come on guys.

First and foremost, the guy was DUI.
Second he resisted arrest
Third he took an officers weapon
Fourth he SHOT at the officers.

WTF?

Am I missing something here, how anyone wouldn't understand where the cop was coming from?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24482069


It's Nagger worship...just like Americans love their dogs and cats, they now will tolerate anything from their pet naggers...
 Quoting: BRIEF


hesright
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if'n you ain't laughin, you ain't payin attention.


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You lecture people here and then post this shit

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Justified my ass!

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This
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I am missing something here chuckle

This is unrelated yes? I have no idea if that guy got shot but he deserved it if he did!

Anyway - hows life in Sweden mate? Getting any better or covid still an issue etc??
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if'n you ain't laughin, you ain't payin attention.


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You lecture people here and then post this shit

specialstupid
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you ain't payin attention.

Imma keep lecturing until you retards 'get it'

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You're in my chair.


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Are you two not saying the same from different corners 1dunno1 chuckle
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if'n you ain't laughin, you ain't payin attention.


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You lecture people here and then post this shit

specialstupid
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you ain't payin attention.

Imma keep lecturing until you retards 'get it'

:)
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if'n you ain't laughin, you ain't payin attention.


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You lecture people here and then post this shit

specialstupid
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you ain't payin attention.

Imma keep lecturing until you retards 'get it'

:)
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diceman-EMMO
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I'm well versed in ItalianJoo.

You aren't.

Hickory Dickory Dock.

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Just keep in mind, you don't need to attack an officer with a non-lethal weapon for the officer to defend himself.

1) Non-lethal weapons as know can kill.
2) When you get fired upon by something that's like a gun, how are you going to defend yourself?
3) You don't have your taser (cause the criminal has it).
4) You going to take out a baton against a ranged weapon?

Come on guys.

First and foremost, the guy was DUI.
Second he resisted arrest
Third he took an officers weapon
Fourth he SHOT at the officers.

WTF?

Am I missing something here, how anyone wouldn't understand where the cop was coming from?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24482069


Nope, you are spot on.... It is a damn shame cos imo the guy did actually seem like a nice enough guy, yeah he was spinnin a yarn cos he didn't want to lose his licence but who hasn't tried to spin a yarn to get outa the muck at some point? Problem was he made a terrible decision on the moment to resist (drunk) and it has cost him, his family, cops family and community big time....

I don't hate him, i feel sorry for him that he made such a momentary bad decision that has cost so much. God will forgive him hf
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You lecture people here and then post this shit

specialstupid
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you ain't payin attention.

Imma keep lecturing until you retards 'get it'

:)
 Quoting: SyncAsFunk


diceman-EMMO
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I'm well versed in ItalianJoo.

You aren't.

Hickory Dickory Dock.

:)
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WIYT-twtballgag
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you ain't payin attention.

Imma keep lecturing until you retards 'get it'

:)
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diceman-EMMO
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I'm well versed in ItalianJoo.

You aren't.

Hickory Dickory Dock.

:)
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WIYT-twtballgag
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Tell me about Freddy Trump.


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That shut some faces dinnit.

LOL

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Y'all wanna go thermonuclear?

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Just keep in mind, you don't need to attack an officer with a non-lethal weapon for the officer to defend himself.

1) Non-lethal weapons as know can kill.
2) When you get fired upon by something that's like a gun, how are you going to defend yourself?
3) You don't have your taser (cause the criminal has it).
4) You going to take out a baton against a ranged weapon?

Come on guys.

First and foremost, the guy was DUI.
Second he resisted arrest
Third he took an officers weapon
Fourth he SHOT at the officers.

WTF?

Am I missing something here, how anyone wouldn't understand where the cop was coming from?
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There FACTS don't care about FEELINGS
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this guy is very likable , said he could walk home, very sincere , police should have driven the few home, disgusting lack human empathy, i usually support the blue line , not on this one, probably legal , really lacking in empathy
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Sucks. Seems like a nice guy who made a series of really bad decisions. Based upon how he was acting, his likeability, and the way it seemed like he was a good natured person, I think it took the police by surprised the level of resistance they got, which probably complicated the situation further. You have to wonder exactly when during the discussion with the police he decided that if they tried to throw the cuffs on he was going to fight it. He was not super intoxicated, so it is not like he was completely out of his mind. It was a conscious decision.

The shooting was justified, and I am sure that the officers feel terrible about it. Watching this video really humanizes this, and leaves one feeling terrible about what happened here, but I can't find fault in the level of force that was used, given the situation, once Brooks decided to fight, and fight he did.
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The cell phone video didn't show the end of the altercation.

Brooks fired the stolen taser at the officer and it's clear as day from surveillance video.

Not good for anyone in this country that this happened. But the truth has to be of utmost importance.

Yeah, it's NBC, but look....3 minutes:


 Quoting: Fluffy Pancakes


bump
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The cell phone video didn't show the end of the altercation.

Brooks fired the stolen taser at the officer and it's clear as day from surveillance video.

Not good for anyone in this country that this happened. But the truth has to be of utmost importance.

Yeah, it's NBC, but look....3 minutes:


 Quoting: Fluffy Pancakes


bump
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The cell phone video didn't show the end of the altercation.

Brooks fired the stolen taser at the officer and it's clear as day from surveillance video.

Not good for anyone in this country that this happened. But the truth has to be of utmost importance.

Yeah, it's NBC, but look....3 minutes:


 Quoting: Fluffy Pancakes


YOU JUST THREW THE ENTIRE BLACK RACE UNDER THE BUS.
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epiclol
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there'll be no do-overs for Rayshard.





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