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BIG TROUBLE: SCOTUS Rules 6-3 that Gay, Trans Employees Protected by Civil Rights Act

 
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Here's the solution:

Don't fire your trans employee for being trans. Fire him/her/it for his/her/its lousy performance on the job.
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Obviously you have never employed anyone. I've been through this with black employees. You virtually CAN'T fire them for anything! You have to provide like 3x the documentation you do for whites because when you try to fire them for bad work, the first thing you get hit with is a DISCRIMINATION SUIT. I HAVE SEEN THIS IN PRACTICE.
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Oh, I believe you.

But that's still the way you need to do it.

NEVER even mention their special protected status. Show no sign you have anything against them being trans or whatever. Just gather evidence of their lousy job performance until you have enough of it to get rid of them.

Which you will get soon enough! If you got saddled with a LGBT activist employee I can guarantee he/she/it isn't doing the job you're paying them to do. Because these people are all about their agenda all the time. There's no room in their brains for anything else.
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The problem is, that as soon as you do this, without mentioning at all that someone is black or gay or transgender - as soon as you start disciplining them....they start bringing out DISCRIMINATION SUITS. I'VE SEEN THIS. Now we not only have the race card protecting bad employees....it will be the GAY AND TRANSGENDER CARD.

So it's not like you can just do 3 strikes and you're out and document it. You have to be prepared to defend yourself IN COURT and that costs MONEY. And possibly bad publicity. They know - blacks in this case because that's what I've dealt with - that most businesses want to avoid this.

Really, the only solution is to try to avoid hiring these people in the first place and now that will have to extend to gays and transgenders. Maybe if you're a small business you can get away with that, but you have to be very careful about doing anything because for these groups LAWFARE is their way of life and now the SCOTUS has given them a GREAT BIG BAT to use against business.
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Neil Gorsuch, welcome to The Resistance.

"Only the best people"

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Neil Gorsuch, welcome to The Resistance.

"Only the best people"

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Pretty much. Definitely NOT a conservative - maybe he is if he's helping out giant corporations. I'm sure Kavanaugh would have voted for it as well but they probably didn't want BOTH Trump picks on the wrong side.
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I've said right from the beginning that neither Gorsuch nor Kavanaugh were real conservatives and they were both bad picks. I'm very sorry to see this played out - 2 wasted SCOTUS picks.

Also, I DO believe Ginsburg is dead and has been for a year and a half or so. I think they're having a double play her now. Trump COULD have revealed this if we went to see her at home when she was allegedly convalescing from yet another bout of what is usually terminal cancer in Dec 2018. If he could have forced them to reveal this, he would have had YET ANOTHER PICK and maybe we could have avoided terrible decisions like this altogether.

BUT NOOOOOOOOOOOOO.

And so the "Liberals" stay in charge despite Trump.
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Well.....I guess people on this site would rather fixate over fake "racism" threads than on a important SCOTUS decision that's going to affect our lives possibly for a generation.

I guess few want to admit they were wrong about Trump and his disastrous SCOTUS picks.
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Does that mean I can get a Chinese pussy? Comes with a big bottle of Chinese made lube I heard
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Soon pedos will be protected. Fuck morals right? Gay/pedo agenda in full swing
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On another note....I see that Roger Stone is still waiting on going to jail at the end of the month (June) and says it will probably be a death sentence for him. Which is probably true.

WHY HASN'T TRUMP PARDONED THIS MAN?????????????
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Soon pedos will be protected. Fuck morals right? Gay/pedo agenda in full swing
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I would not be at all surprised. To me it looks like a step on that direction. If you are protecting people on the basis of THEIR SEXUAL PREFERENCE....then how many years behind this decision is another one protecting those who just happen to "love" children? They can't help it, right? And if they do their jobs....why should they be discriminated against?

Perhaps this decision could even be used in that direction. If a gay man has sex with minors, as many actually do (teenagers). he might bring a suit saying that he is being fired for his sexual preference and not because of the minor aspect. AND he might be able to make that stick.

This is a TERRIBLE decision, one that will have a very bad effect on this country, and so few seem to be interested here on the site. Astounding.
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This is WHY the Supreme Court matters. If Gorsuch had been a real conservative (I don't believe either of Trump's picks are), then the vote would have been 5-4. It would have passed but there would be a greater likelihood of overturning this later.

BUT...if Trump had gone after Ginsburg as HE SHOULD HAVE....we could have WON this with 3 CONSERVATIVE JUDGES.

BIG FAILURE THAT COULD AFFECT US FOR GENERATIONS.
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Soon pedos will be protected. Fuck morals right? Gay/pedo agenda in full swing
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I would not be at all surprised. To me it looks like a step on that direction. If you are protecting people on the basis of THEIR SEXUAL PREFERENCE....then how many years behind this decision is another one protecting those who just happen to "love" children? They can't help it, right? And if they do their jobs....why should they be discriminated against?

Perhaps this decision could even be used in that direction. If a gay man has sex with minors, as many actually do (teenagers). he might bring a suit saying that he is being fired for his sexual preference and not because of the minor aspect. AND he might be able to make that stick.

This is a TERRIBLE decision, one that will have a very bad effect on this country, and so few seem to be interested here on the site. Astounding.
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Thats because most everyone here is a J brainwashed zogbot who fights anyone who doesnt get on their knees open mouth wide for the next Q drop to slide down their throat
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This is a BIG PROBLEM especially with the transgenders. Now they have FEDERAL PROTECTION FROM DISCRIMINATION. You all know what that means.

And GORSUCH ruled for this. I'm surprised Kavanaugh didn't.

THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN TRUMP DOESN'T APPOINT DOCTRINAIRE CONSERVATIVES TO THE SCOTUS. He should NEVER hire a liberal or a "moderate" and both Gorsuch & Kavanaugh are untrustworthy middle of the road DC insiders.

"WASHINGTON (AP) — The Supreme Court ruled Monday that a landmark civil rights law protects LGBT people from discrimination in employment, a resounding victory for LGBT rights from a conservative court.

The court decided by a 6-3 vote that a key provision of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 known as Title VII that bars job discrimination because of sex, among other reasons, encompasses bias against LGBT workers.

“An employer who fires an individual for being homosexual or transgender fires that person for traits or actions it would not have questioned in members of a different sex. Sex plays a necessary and undisguisable role in the decision, exactly what Title VII forbids,” Justice Neil Gorsuch wrote for the court.

Justices Samuel Alito, Brett Kavanaugh and Clarence Thomas dissented."

[link to www.breitbart.com (secure)]
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Why is this shit even being voted on now? don't they have more important fucking cases to rule on
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Soon pedos will be protected. Fuck morals right? Gay/pedo agenda in full swing
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I would not be at all surprised. To me it looks like a step on that direction. If you are protecting people on the basis of THEIR SEXUAL PREFERENCE....then how many years behind this decision is another one protecting those who just happen to "love" children? They can't help it, right? And if they do their jobs....why should they be discriminated against?

Perhaps this decision could even be used in that direction. If a gay man has sex with minors, as many actually do (teenagers). he might bring a suit saying that he is being fired for his sexual preference and not because of the minor aspect. AND he might be able to make that stick.

This is a TERRIBLE decision, one that will have a very bad effect on this country, and so few seem to be interested here on the site. Astounding.
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Thats because most everyone here is a J brainwashed zogbot who fights anyone who doesnt get on their knees open mouth wide for the next Q drop to slide down their throat
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Again....there seems to be some truth to this. I think a lot of people are really embarrassed and disappointed in Trump too because he really has been pretty much a failure in the real big issues. Especially this year with his terrible response to COVID and the riots.

Sigh. I guess it's back to voting for the lesser of 2 evils and I HATE DOING THIS. If Biden wasn't such a rotten crazy bastards with all these lunatics behind him, I'd sit this one out. Trump does not deserve my vote.
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This is a BIG PROBLEM especially with the transgenders. Now they have FEDERAL PROTECTION FROM DISCRIMINATION. You all know what that means.

And GORSUCH ruled for this. I'm surprised Kavanaugh didn't.

THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN TRUMP DOESN'T APPOINT DOCTRINAIRE CONSERVATIVES TO THE SCOTUS. He should NEVER hire a liberal or a "moderate" and both Gorsuch & Kavanaugh are untrustworthy middle of the road DC insiders.

"WASHINGTON (AP) — The Supreme Court ruled Monday that a landmark civil rights law protects LGBT people from discrimination in employment, a resounding victory for LGBT rights from a conservative court.

The court decided by a 6-3 vote that a key provision of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 known as Title VII that bars job discrimination because of sex, among other reasons, encompasses bias against LGBT workers.

“An employer who fires an individual for being homosexual or transgender fires that person for traits or actions it would not have questioned in members of a different sex. Sex plays a necessary and undisguisable role in the decision, exactly what Title VII forbids,” Justice Neil Gorsuch wrote for the court.

Justices Samuel Alito, Brett Kavanaugh and Clarence Thomas dissented."

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Why is this shit even being voted on now? don't they have more important fucking cases to rule on
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I don't know, I didn't have the heart to do the research on it, I just wanted to get a thread up because ....it's being ignored on this site. Maybe they pushed it ahead in the docket - they do that sometimes - perhaps to get it ahead of the election. If a decision like this happens on Trump's watch, his followers will ignore it, just as they actually ARE, whereas if it happened on a Biden's watch they'd be all over it like white on rice.

I'm surprised by this decision as I literally had heard nothing about this and it came out of nowhere as far as I can tell. No publicity at all. Maybe they wanted to blindside us.
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I think this is a pretty good indicator that nothing is going to happen to Pedophiles under Trump's admin.

And Q IS a load of horse shit.
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It occurs to me to comment that virtually all of our ruling class, our elites - and that includes Trump and all the people around him - are on the Left. They're actually LIBERALS, certainly not as far Left as Biden & the Dems have gone, but definitely on that spectrum.

The PEOPLE, however, are conservative but we don't have any representation because we cannot break through the Liberal ruling class. Every candidate that is posed to us past the local level is actually a LIBERAL, whether openly or stealth.

And because they all have money, either privately or through their government activities, THEY are protected from the consequences of their actions, decisions, rulings. It is WE who bare the brunt of these....but in a very practical way....WE HAVE NO REPRESENTATION.
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If you consider it....our entire elite class - politics, media, business, education, religion, medicine, science, Hollywood, music industry, sports, high tech - the ENTIRE upper class that controls money and power in this country, are on the Left - somewhere on that spectrum - and they support Big Government, liberal social policies, globalism, and controlling the lives & businesses of people like us. We can't break through that elite crust because if we pick a candidate who talks and seems "conservative" like Trump....from his background he proves to be a STEALTH LIBERAL who has many of the same basic beliefs and assumptions as the others, and so we are betrayed time and time again.

This is the essential problem as I see it: a Liberal upper class in all areas of life that controls everything and yet HAS NO CONSEQUENCES FOR THEIR BELIEFS AND RULINGS....and then there is the PEOPLE for whom the Govt was allegedly established....and yet we have little influence on that level of government and hence.....WE DON'T CONTROL MUCH OF THE LAWS AND REGULATIONS AND TAXES THAT HAVE BEEN CREATED TO GOVERN US.

WE HAVE NO ACTUAL REPRESENTATION.

What do we do about this?
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Have forum members been told to stay off this thread? Very strange so few want to comment on such a momentous decision. I know the site dislikes me because I really AM independent, which I don't give a shit about, but this it an important topic, one that should not be ignored.
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So only a HANDFUL of people think this is an important issue or are surprised that Gorsuch would vote like this?

No one wants to comment on Trump's terrible SCOTUS picks - or defend them?
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Frankly...I do think there's a Uni-Party - that the Repubs are just an extension of the Democrat ONE PARTY CLASS SYSTEM. They're the "Good Loser" party because we need to keep the pretense going that we have 2 parties in rivalry.

The Repubs put up the worst candidates and are invariably good losers who don't put up any struggle. It's always like a bad wrestling match.

I frequently think the reason the Dems picked someone as glaringly awful as Biden - probably the worst POTUS candidate in HISTORY - was to funnel us into voting for Trump....because in reality, Trump is actually going to do all the things the upper class really wants (and not the things he tells US he's going to do) and they can have the crazies yelling like he's got real opposition when he doesn't.

So they win either way....If Biden wins, they get everything they want because he's totally controlled...and If Trump wins....basically the same thing except they have to put up with some pathetic tweeting bullshit.

THE PEOPLE are the ones who get screwed over and over.

WE HAVE NO REPRESENTATION. WE CAN'T GET PAST THE RULING ELITE CLASS STRUCTURE.
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I guess we might as well post cat videos, LOL, because this is a lot of fake bullshit too. No racism my ass....that's not the only censorship I see around here.
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Those perverts should not be allowed around normal people because of all the disease they spread around.
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That's why you do your due diligence and comprehensive back ground checks including social media posts (hire a private detective if needed) and carefully interview all new hire candidates. If you or the company HR does not do this then live with the consequences .
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This isn't about discriminating against gays. This is about giving special treatment to certain people. It will be nearly impossible to fire a bad employee who happens to be gay. I can just see it now. the gay guy never shows up to work and when he does his work is sub par. The employer lets him go and the MSM is on the war path 24/7. No matter how bad the employees are the employers will be afraid of having his business ruined with all the bad press.
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I’ve seen this up close with both gays and trans. They are nightmare employees. That’s why they need “special” protections. They need special rights. Without these kinds of laws they could be dealt with properly, so that it would be fair to all the NON lgbtlmnops who have to put up with their jealous, petty, mentally ill crap.
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Would this apply to catholic school teachers?
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Have forum members been told to stay off this thread? Very strange so few want to comment on such a momentous decision. I know the site dislikes me because I really AM independent, which I don't give a shit about, but this it an important topic, one that should not be ignored.
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This ruling makes me think of how a liberal female like the author of the Harry Potter books got into a big verbal tussle recently for saying people who can mensturate have tradionally been known as women. Believe it or not, but JK Rowling's description was supposedly "anti-trans."

Leftism is now causing a Lord-of-the-Flies dynamic.

A version of hard-left, mean-hearted Mao Tse-tung's Cultural Revolution is bringing chaos and cruelty to today's America and Western World.
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Would this apply to catholic school teachers?
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Why not?

Apparently both Alito & Thomas are kicking Gorsuch's ass over this saying that it's a preposterous decision that is going to have a negative aspect on many areas of life - I'll post the articles.

I've never seen the word PREPOSTEROUS used in a SCOTUS ruling before. "Breathtaking arrogance" was another phrase they used.
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Here are the articles about Justices Alito & Thomas about their reactions to this truly TERRIBLE decision that's going to devastate this country:

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[link to pjmedia.com (secure)]

Per Alito:

"Perhaps most importantly, however, Alito warns that the decision will have wide-ranging destructive impacts on key freedoms Americans hold dear, and he predicts that “the entire Federal Judiciary will be mired for years in disputes about the reach of the Court’s reasoning.”

“As the briefing in these cases has warned, the position that the Court now adopts will threaten freedom of religion, freedom of speech, and personal privacy and safety. No one should think that the Court’s decision represents an unalloyed victory for individual liberty,” Alito warns. His dissent lays out seven different realms of American life that will be affected by this ruling."
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Have forum members been told to stay off this thread? Very strange so few want to comment on such a momentous decision. I know the site dislikes me because I really AM independent, which I don't give a shit about, but this it an important topic, one that should not be ignored.
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This ruling makes me think of how a liberal female like the author of the Harry Potter books got into a big verbal tussle recently for saying people who can mensturate have tradionally been known as women. Believe it or not, but JK Rowling's description was supposedly "anti-trans."

Leftism is now causing a Lord-of-the-Flies dynamic.

A version of hard-left, mean-hearted Mao Tse-tung's Cultural Revolution is bringing chaos and cruelty to today's America and Western World.
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In the US now, with this SCOTUS ruling someone like J.K. Rowling could be prosecuted under a Federal civil rights violation. THAT IS WHAT THIS DECISION WILL MEAN.
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Alito cited 7 areas where he thinks this terrible ruling will have maximum effect:

1. Bathrooms and changing rooms

2. Women’s sports

3. Housing

4. Religious employment

5. Health care

6. Freedom of speech

7. Constitutional claims

In the article, Alito goes into details about each area. IT IS HORRIFIC.

This is possibly the worst SCOTUS decision, IMO, since Dred Scott.





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