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China's Hidden History: Playing out today in the US?

 
Lily o' the Valley

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See if you can spot the similarities here and there

Seeing Through the Veil of the Chinese Communist Party's Deception

(Minghui.org) Some people in Western society have a misunderstanding about communism's ideology of abolishing private property and achieving egalitarianism. After all, what's wrong with having equal opportunities for everyone?

Looking at the history of communism, however, one will find that violent revolution was often used to seize private property to benefit privileged high-ranking officials and their families. The so-called “egalitarianism” is just an empty promise made by communists.

As more people have come to recognize the harm of the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) during the coronavirus pandemic, it would be helpful to review what the CCP has done since it came to power several decades ago, including seizing private property, destroying traditional Chinese culture, and killing innocent citizens.

Robbing and Stealing Property
Seizing private property is an inherent nature of the CCP that started in its early days. For example, the CCP issued orders in the 1930s to kill the landlords, burn their houses, and take their property, wrote Gong Chu, a senior CCP official at the time. Unable to tolerate the brutality anymore, he defected in 1935.

Killing the landlords in the countryside was very cruel. “Officials would first torture these landlords with all kinds of methods to extort money and then kill them—even young children would not be spared,” Gong explained, “The word ‘humanity’ does not exist in the dictionary of the CCP.”

“Let Some People Get Rich First”
Following the Cultural Revolution, then communist leader Deng Xiaoping launched a new initiative, “Let some people get rich first,” which turned out to benefit the most offspring of the high-ranking officials. Chen Yun, then second most powerful CCP official, and others agreed on a deal: one of each top officials’ children would inherit high power while the other children would be allowed to make money by using their political connections without worrying about corruption charges.

This deal, hardly known to ordinary citizens, quickly enabled high-ranking officials and their families to accumulate assets. Zhou Yongkang, secretary of the Political and Legal Affairs Committee (2007-2012), was reported to own a fortune of 90 billion yuan (or $14 billion) in 2012. The family of Jiang Zemin, former Party secretary, was reported to have overseas assets of about 500 billion yuan (or $70 billion).

According to an “Annual Report on the People's Livelihood Survey in China (2015)” published by Beijing University, the wealthiest 1% of Chinese families owned about one-third of the country’s assets, while the bottom 25% only owned 1% of the assets.

A large portion of such asset redistribution was driven by the kinship. Deutsche Welle, a German public radio, reported in April 2012 that 2,900 Chinese princelings owned a fortune of about 2 trillion yuan (or $320 billion at that time). They dominated many industries, especially finance, foreign trade, and real estate. “Among 3,220 Chinese people with fortunes of over 100 million yuan, only 288 are not offspring of high officials,” wrote the report.

Destroying Culture and Killing People
The traditional Chinese culture focuses on the harmony between heaven, earth, and man. The communism theory, on the other hand, promotes class struggle. To further penetrate this ideology in China, the CCP launched numerous political campaigns to pit one group of people against another group.
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Notice anything similar? Think about the power/ wealth families - the Bush family (with long term ties to China's power/wealth structure, Senator Feinstein, the McCain family and the Kerry family, and on and on. Take a good look.
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China’s Richest 2019
[link to www.forbes.com (secure)] first few entries are part of the let some get rich category. They could be compared with the American nobodies who became mega rich by owning tech companies.
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chokums and deep state eh
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Yes, many of our elite have been playing populares while they are really as patrician as all hell.

It's quite a game.

Quite a charade.


Another game of the optimi.
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We're following the Chinese model.
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Populares
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


The Populares were a political faction in the late Roman Republic who favoured the cause of the plebeians (the commoners).

The Populares emerged as a political group with the reforms of the Gracchi brothers, who were tribunes of the plebs between 133 and 121 BC. Although the Gracchi belonged to the highest Roman aristocracy, being the grandsons of Scipio Africanus, they were concerned for the urban poor, whose dire condition increased the risk of a social crisis at Rome. They tried to implement a vast social program comprising a grain dole, new colonies, and a redistribution of the Ager publicus in order to alleviate their situation. They also drafted laws to grant Roman citizenship to Italian allies, and reform the judicial system to tackle corruption. Both brothers were nevertheless murdered by their opponents, the Optimates—the conservative faction representing the interests of the landed aristocracy, who dominated the Senate. Several tribunes of the plebs later tried to pass the Gracchi's program by using plebiscites (in order to bypass senatorial opposition), but Saturninus and Clodius Pulcher suffered the same fate as the Gracchi. Furthermore, many politicians of the late Republic postured as Populares to enhance their popularity among the plebs, notably Julius Caesar and Octavian (later Augustus), who finally enacted most of the Populares' platform during their rule.

The Populares counted a number of patricians—the most ancient Roman aristocrats—such as Appius Claudius Pulcher, Lucius Cornelius Cinna, and Julius Caesar among their number. They were allied to politicians of lesser status, especially "new men" like Gaius Marius, or Gaius Norbanus (who might have even been a new Roman citizen).

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It's an old game.

Julius Caesar rode it to becoming EMPEROR.

:emperor:


Augustus took the ball and ran with it and was able to live to an old age as EMPEROR.
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chokums and deep state eh
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Looks like it.
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Taya, I have not finished reading your book yet, so far I am quite impressed.

I will hold my comments on China for now.




hf
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Taya, I have not finished reading your book yet, so far I am quite impressed.

I will hold my comments on China for now.




hf
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79051663


Could you please share the name of the book?? I am not sure who Taya is either.
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We're following the Chinese model.
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We're following the Chinese model.
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Yes, we are and it is worrying.
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Taya, I have not finished reading your book yet, so far I am quite impressed.

I will hold my comments on China for now.




hf
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Could you please share the name of the book?? I am not sure who Taya is either.
 Quoting: Lily o' the Valley


Spinning Silk
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Populares
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


The Populares were a political faction in the late Roman Republic who favoured the cause of the plebeians (the commoners).

The Populares emerged as a political group with the reforms of the Gracchi brothers, who were tribunes of the plebs between 133 and 121 BC. Although the Gracchi belonged to the highest Roman aristocracy, being the grandsons of Scipio Africanus, they were concerned for the urban poor, whose dire condition increased the risk of a social crisis at Rome. They tried to implement a vast social program comprising a grain dole, new colonies, and a redistribution of the Ager publicus in order to alleviate their situation. They also drafted laws to grant Roman citizenship to Italian allies, and reform the judicial system to tackle corruption. Both brothers were nevertheless murdered by their opponents, the Optimates—the conservative faction representing the interests of the landed aristocracy, who dominated the Senate. Several tribunes of the plebs later tried to pass the Gracchi's program by using plebiscites (in order to bypass senatorial opposition), but Saturninus and Clodius Pulcher suffered the same fate as the Gracchi. Furthermore, many politicians of the late Republic postured as Populares to enhance their popularity among the plebs, notably Julius Caesar and Octavian (later Augustus), who finally enacted most of the Populares' platform during their rule.

The Populares counted a number of patricians—the most ancient Roman aristocrats—such as Appius Claudius Pulcher, Lucius Cornelius Cinna, and Julius Caesar among their number. They were allied to politicians of lesser status, especially "new men" like Gaius Marius, or Gaius Norbanus (who might have even been a new Roman citizen).

[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]


It's an old game.

Julius Caesar rode it to becoming EMPEROR.

emperor


Augustus took the ball and ran with it and was able to live to an old age as EMPEROR.
 Quoting: Builder of the Adytum


You left out buying votes. Lol
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 Quoting: Lily o' the Valley


Taya, I have not finished reading your book yet, so far I am quite impressed.

I will hold my comments on China for now.




hf
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79051663


Could you please share the name of the book?? I am not sure who Taya is either.
 Quoting: Lily o' the Valley


Spinning Silk
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Thanks.:-)
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Populares
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


The Populares were a political faction in the late Roman Republic who favoured the cause of the plebeians (the commoners).

The Populares emerged as a political group with the reforms of the Gracchi brothers, who were tribunes of the plebs between 133 and 121 BC. Although the Gracchi belonged to the highest Roman aristocracy, being the grandsons of Scipio Africanus, they were concerned for the urban poor, whose dire condition increased the risk of a social crisis at Rome. They tried to implement a vast social program comprising a grain dole, new colonies, and a redistribution of the Ager publicus in order to alleviate their situation. They also drafted laws to grant Roman citizenship to Italian allies, and reform the judicial system to tackle corruption. Both brothers were nevertheless murdered by their opponents, the Optimates—the conservative faction representing the interests of the landed aristocracy, who dominated the Senate. Several tribunes of the plebs later tried to pass the Gracchi's program by using plebiscites (in order to bypass senatorial opposition), but Saturninus and Clodius Pulcher suffered the same fate as the Gracchi. Furthermore, many politicians of the late Republic postured as Populares to enhance their popularity among the plebs, notably Julius Caesar and Octavian (later Augustus), who finally enacted most of the Populares' platform during their rule.

The Populares counted a number of patricians—the most ancient Roman aristocrats—such as Appius Claudius Pulcher, Lucius Cornelius Cinna, and Julius Caesar among their number. They were allied to politicians of lesser status, especially "new men" like Gaius Marius, or Gaius Norbanus (who might have even been a new Roman citizen).

[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]


It's an old game.

Julius Caesar rode it to becoming EMPEROR.

:emperor:


Augustus took the ball and ran with it and was able to live to an old age as EMPEROR.
 Quoting: Builder of the Adytum


You left out buying votes. Lol
 Quoting: Lily o' the Valley

Well, in Rome, the plebs didn't really have a vote.



But some of the patricians played the populist and rode it to ABSOLUTE POWER and THE END OF THE REPUBLIC.
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Notice anything similar? Think about the power/ wealth families - the Bush family (with long term ties to China's power/wealth structure, Senator Feinstein, the McCain family and the Kerry family, and on and on. Take a good look.
 Quoting: Lily o' the Valley


Here, notice this hierarchy instead...

[link to 4.bp.blogspot.com (secure)]

That clear something up?
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Populares
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


The Populares were a political faction in the late Roman Republic who favoured the cause of the plebeians (the commoners).

The Populares emerged as a political group with the reforms of the Gracchi brothers, who were tribunes of the plebs between 133 and 121 BC. Although the Gracchi belonged to the highest Roman aristocracy, being the grandsons of Scipio Africanus, they were concerned for the urban poor, whose dire condition increased the risk of a social crisis at Rome. They tried to implement a vast social program comprising a grain dole, new colonies, and a redistribution of the Ager publicus in order to alleviate their situation. They also drafted laws to grant Roman citizenship to Italian allies, and reform the judicial system to tackle corruption. Both brothers were nevertheless murdered by their opponents, the Optimates—the conservative faction representing the interests of the landed aristocracy, who dominated the Senate. Several tribunes of the plebs later tried to pass the Gracchi's program by using plebiscites (in order to bypass senatorial opposition), but Saturninus and Clodius Pulcher suffered the same fate as the Gracchi. Furthermore, many politicians of the late Republic postured as Populares to enhance their popularity among the plebs, notably Julius Caesar and Octavian (later Augustus), who finally enacted most of the Populares' platform during their rule.

The Populares counted a number of patricians—the most ancient Roman aristocrats—such as Appius Claudius Pulcher, Lucius Cornelius Cinna, and Julius Caesar among their number. They were allied to politicians of lesser status, especially "new men" like Gaius Marius, or Gaius Norbanus (who might have even been a new Roman citizen).

[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]


It's an old game.

Julius Caesar rode it to becoming EMPEROR.

:emperor:


Augustus took the ball and ran with it and was able to live to an old age as EMPEROR.
 Quoting: Builder of the Adytum


You left out buying votes. Lol
 Quoting: Lily o' the Valley

Well, in Rome, the plebs didn't really have a vote.



But some of the patricians played the populist and rode it to ABSOLUTE POWER and THE END OF THE REPUBLIC.
 Quoting: Builder of the Adytum


You think you have a vote now as a pleb?
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Police kneeling, specifically onto the necks of citizens, occurred at a particular point in Hong Kong over the past year. After that, stricter actions from cops, bodies pulled out of the bay, then intercession from outside. Probably national guard in US's case, foreign troops if put up for bid.

Scripted.

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