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A little new insight into the mark of the beast

 
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A little new insight into the mark of the beast
Hey y'all. Jesus Christ blesses you.

I just did a little research and want to share my findings which is not much but I think you'll be glad to gain a little better insight.


Revelation 13:18
Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.


Here is the verse in English and Greek
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The Greek word used for man is "anthropou" with mark over the "o".

Here is the word in Strong's Concordance
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(with mark over the "a")
444 anthropos – man, also the generic term for "mankind"; the human race; people, including women and men (Mt 4:19, 12:12, etc.).

(with mark over the "o")
444 (anthropos) relates to both genders (male and female) as both are created in the image of God – each equally vested with individual personhood and destiny (cf. Gal 3:28). Accordingly, the Bible uses 444 (anthropos)(mark over both "a" and "o") of a specific man, woman, or class (type, group) of people – i.e. mankind in general (inclusive of every man, woman and child;

K. Wuest, "There are two words in Greek which mean 'man,' aner, which refers to a male individual of the human race, and anthropos, which is the racial, generic term, and which has the general idea of 'mankind' " (3, Great Truths to Live By, 46).]




Basically what the bible is saying is that there is a type of people, a type of person, worldly persons, who receive a mark of the beast world, image or name or number of the beast system. In contrast the name received by people called out of the world is Jesus, his mark is the Holy Spirit, and his number I don't know or think it matters but if I had to guess it is 1 for 1 God Jesus which that fact absolutely does matter.

As with most learning there are depths to knowledge, and as with prophecies of Jesus there are layers of meaning but always 1 truth. So while the mark of the beast is demons, and the name of the beast is any name except Jesus, and you can clearly see 666 symbolism in almost every facet of corporate America, and every place you go to eat has some hidden occult reference to the number, there's also probably a physical mark that Jesus doesn't want his people taking. In the old testament he said not to get tattoos or mark the body for the dead, and people do to this day. In the new testament he talks about writing his name on his people, and people today tattoo other people's names on their body so it's just a mockery.

While I will not willingly receive a forced mark in or on my body wilfully, even unto death if so be it, I'm more inclined to believe that the mark of the beast is simply demons, which are unholy spirits, and obviously not the Holy Spirit of Jesus which we are required to have to enter heaven, and can only keep by keeping his 11 commandments, which would mean we are not sinning against him.



Fear of a righteous God is good, so let the fear of the Lord Jesus help you to repent. But also remember this, that while we were yet sinners Jesus died for us,and that not by not doing wrong, and not by having done good efforts, did anyone ever receive forgiveness of their sins. So if you think yourself to be doomed please do reject that thinking, that doubt, that confusion, that hopelessness, that defeated thinking. Jesus came to save the lost, not the righteous. He came to save sinners. He came to help us repent from evil not condemn us in our evil. If you feel entangled by the evils of the world it may be so that you are, but don't let yourself be overcome by it, do not give up on Jesus or yourself. Take on a soldier mentality and get through it! You can SPEAK this prayer for starters if you want:

(with intent, speak to the living Jesus who died for your sins, who can see and hear you and is waiting for you to speak prayers of repentance such as this one, and remember that only God can forgive sins)

Lord Jesus,
Please help me to forgive everyone and only want your best for everyone, hating evil that people say or do but not hating the person.
Help me to obey your commands for me and overcome all of my sins.
Please forgive me of all my sins, and if you are God please prove it to me by filling me with your Holy Spirit.
Please deliver me from Satan and the power of his spirits over me, and bless me completely according to this blessing.
Thank you Jesus, amen.


Revelation 12:11 And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.
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Re: A little new insight into the mark of the beast
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Re: A little new insight into the mark of the beast
I believe God likes the number 7 so that would be the number.

It would be 777...
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Re: A little new insight into the mark of the beast
That little mark over the omega is called an acute accent mark.

And the Greek word for mankind is anthropinos, not anthropos.

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Revelation 13 refers to a specific man.

There are three accent marks in Greek: 1) Acute ' 2) Grave ` 3) Circumflex ~

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Re: A little new insight into the mark of the beast
If you need an example of how anthropos does not mean "mankind" but "a man", simply look at John 1:6 (the same John who wrote Revelation).

Egeneto anthropos apestalmenos para Theou onoma auto Ioanes.

You notice that there is no indefinite article in front of anthropos, yet it still is to be rendered in English as "a man".

Unless you want to translate it as, "And there came mankind sent from God whose name was John". And I'm pretty sure you wouldn't want to do that.
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Re: A little new insight into the mark of the beast
It is true that the plural form of anthropos is at times used in a general sense of "mankind". Apostle Paul uses it this way many times in his letters when he writes something like "of men" (viz Rom 2:16), along with many other Hebraisms Paul employs in his epistles.

However, when the noun form anthropos is used in the singular, it univerally means "a man".

Otherwise, if the scribe employs the singular referring to "human", or "mankind", he will always use the adjectival form anthropinos.

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Re: A little new insight into the mark of the beast
Rev 18:6, you reminded me that I forgot to add some other important information to the op. While I still disagree with your interpretation/understanding of the presented subject and information, not denying your value, you may be persuaded by this further information which I completely forgot to add.

But regarding what is already presented, the word used in context of the verse is the second definition of the word anthropou from the link. Since that word refers to both men and women the verse literally could be:

Here the wisdom is: the one having understanding let him count the number of the beast number because mankind's it is and the number of it is six hundred sixty six.

Here's what I wanted to have in the op.

St. Luke 16:11 If therefore ye have not been faithful in the unrighteous mammon, who will commit to your trust the true riches?
St. Luke 16:12 And if ye have not been faithful in that which is another man's, who shall give you that which is your own?
St. Luke 16:13 No servant can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.

Mammon
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Definition: riches
Usage: (Aramaic), riches, money, possessions, property.

3126 mammonas – a Semitic term for "the treasure a person trusts in" (J. Thayer) who is transliterated as "mammon."

[3126 (mammonas) is probably an Aramaic term, related to the Hebrew term 'aman ("to trust," J. Thayer).]

...according to Gesenius (Thesaurus i., 552) contracted from מַטְמון, treasure (Genesis 43:23); cf. B. D., under the word; Edersheim, Jesus the Messiah, 2:269)), riches: Matthew 6:24 and Luke 16:13 (where it is personified and opposed to God; cf. Philippians 3:19); Luke 16:9, 11. ...

St. Luke 12:34 For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.

So the beast system is the kingdom(s) (Satan's kingdom) of the world. Men put their trust in it, and money, and are of the world. The only other place in the bible with 666 is when Solomon received as many talents of gold in 1 year. Again, the people of the world put their trust in money. To put one's trust and security in money is receiving the mark of the beast because no one must work for it, both beast and money, to buy and sell to live.

Jesus gave a command to sell everything you possess and give to the poor. He also gave a command to buy a sword. He gives the command again to buy of him gold (treasure) in Revelation, referring to true riches, the Holy Spirit and the wisdom that comes from obedience to his commands.

The Blessed One of God became as a curse to the people of the world, therefore to be as one cursed among the world is a blessing from God. This is why the foolishness of God is the wisdom of those who are being saved.
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Re: A little new insight into the mark of the beast
In Revelation the beast is referred to as 2 things evil:

Satan
Revelation 11:7 And when they shall have finished their testimony, the beast that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit shall make war against them, and shall overcome them, and kill them.

Kingdoms
Revelation 17:11 And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition.
Revelation 17:12 And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast.
Revelation 17:13 These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast.

The beast gives power unto the beast?

The number of the kingdom (beast) is 666, and man's number is of it (6), created on the 6th day.





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