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Serious question. If Jesus Christ is the creator of all things. Why create war and violence and poverty and hunger?

 
Anonymous Coward
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Serious question. If Jesus Christ is the creator of all things. Why create war and violence and poverty and hunger?
Now I understand the concept that angels rebelled against God in Heaven and Satan the head bad angel is ruler of earth. So thus he created death and war and violence and famine. But my question still stands. If Jesus Christ is creator of all things, why create Satan if you knew he was gonna rebel and send humans to hell. Why create life if you knew death would happen.

I used to be scared to ask these questions. I would think God would judge me. But now as I get older I truly do seek out heavens mysteries .

I do believe Jesus is Lord of Heaven and Earth.

I do believe Jesus is King of my heart.

I do believe Jesus is God.

But I ask him, and you glp, why create war and death?

Why create poverty ?

Why create pain?

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Re: Serious question. If Jesus Christ is the creator of all things. Why create war and violence and poverty and hunger?
It is possible we live in some far off distant galaxy that is purely evil and God is form another part of the universe ?

And maybe while alive on earth we are proof of God?
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06/24/2020 04:48 PM
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Re: Serious question. If Jesus Christ is the creator of all things. Why create war and violence and poverty and hunger?
The reason God said "let there be light" was because it was VERY VERY DARK EVERYWHERE...and light was not needed.

So it stands to reason that DARKNESS is the DEFAULT setting of the universe.

Darkness makes no impact on darkness.

But light DOES.

So God never created darkness.

He never had to.

It was ALWAYS THERE.
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Re: Serious question. If Jesus Christ is the creator of all things. Why create war and violence and poverty and hunger?
It is possible we live in some far off distant galaxy that is purely evil and God is form another part of the universe ?

And maybe while alive on earth we are proof of God?
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You still believe in the good-evil paradigm. Is just to keep you busy distracted throughout your whole life. This is a farm and you aren’t different from a chicken. They feed of your soul.
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Re: Serious question. If Jesus Christ is the creator of all things. Why create war and violence and poverty and hunger?
Kyoami: “Are there no gods... no Buddha? If you exist, hear me. You are mischievous and cruel! Are you so bored up there you must crush us like ants? Is it such fun to see men weep?”

Tango: “Enough! Do not blaspheme! It is the gods who weep. They see us killing each other over and over since time began. They can't save us from ourselves.”


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Re: Serious question. If Jesus Christ is the creator of all things. Why create war and violence and poverty and hunger?
God doen't create war and violence and poverty and hunger,
we do
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Re: Serious question. If Jesus Christ is the creator of all things. Why create war and violence and poverty and hunger?
Earth is a unique planet. An important one.

It's where the experiment of Free Will happens. Where incarnate souls, shards of the divine void emptiness of infinite creative potential go to explore the idea of "What Can I Become"

I Am that I Am

Is the Lord, and the eye cannot see itself. But if we look in the mirror we see a reflection of this.

Want to see God and speak with God directly? Open your eyes, look around you. It's there, here, everywhere and nowhere in between.

Trying to measure this or understand this is like trying to swim to the bottom of the Ocean in the little body you have been blessed with. There are many things stopping you from getting to the bottom of this, but one thing you can do is float on the surface for awhile, that's where you are right now. Feel the immensity of this below you and the openness of the wide open sky above you. You are right where Heaven and Earth meet, exactly where you belong and this is perfect.

Some seekers have become finders. But no finders remain seekers, the cast off that description and just find. It's very rare though, but requires no work or participation on your part. In the realm of where things rise and fall, and where things come and go, God will remain a mystery that abides.

In the realm where there is anything at all, God will remain a mystery that abides.

It is vanity and folly to claim to know the mind of a being such as this, but it is a noble endeavor to believe yourself capable of understanding this, it's in your nature. It's part of you, who you are, who we are. To want to return home, and maybe the biggest surprise is this, to know that we are all just walking each other home.

Eternity is a very large concept. Alpha and Omega nothing created, all a dream. All asleep. All thoughts of God given enough room to be explored, all loved and cherished as we float in the midst of the dream of the mind of God, with free will, kinetically shaping the answer to the question...

"What Can I Become?"
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Re: Serious question. If Jesus Christ is the creator of all things. Why create war and violence and poverty and hunger?
Jesus Christ did not create anything besides a God damn mess.
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Re: Serious question. If Jesus Christ is the creator of all things. Why create war and violence and poverty and hunger?
You're saying that people are Jesus Christ. You're blaming God for the choices of men while calling men God of their lives.
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Re: Serious question. If Jesus Christ is the creator of all things. Why create war and violence and poverty and hunger?
God wanted a family.

But humans needed free will. He was not going to force anyone to do anything. That would not be love.

We must choose good or evil. That simple
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Re: Serious question. If Jesus Christ is the creator of all things. Why create war and violence and poverty and hunger?
bump
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Re: Serious question. If Jesus Christ is the creator of all things. Why create war and violence and poverty and hunger?
The reason God said "let there be light" was because it was VERY VERY DARK EVERYWHERE...and light was not needed.

So it stands to reason that DARKNESS is the DEFAULT setting of the universe.

Darkness makes no impact on darkness.

But light DOES.

So God never created darkness.

He never had to.

It was ALWAYS THERE.
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Thanks for sharing . I get what your saying. Plausible.
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Re: Serious question. If Jesus Christ is the creator of all things. Why create war and violence and poverty and hunger?
It is possible we live in some far off distant galaxy that is purely evil and God is form another part of the universe ?

And maybe while alive on earth we are proof of God?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79029593


You still believe in the good-evil paradigm. Is just to keep you busy distracted throughout your whole life. This is a farm and you aren’t different from a chicken. They feed of your soul.
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Who is they ?
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Re: Serious question. If Jesus Christ is the creator of all things. Why create war and violence and poverty and hunger?
This is a serious question for you ?
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Re: Serious question. If Jesus Christ is the creator of all things. Why create war and violence and poverty and hunger?
God doesn't create war, we humans do. We choose our destiny, that is what sin is about. We make bad choices, then if we die with those choices having been made we reap from them as if they were seeds that sprouted and grew without God's presence much less help.

If we discover God's grace in His Son, then all our past mistakes are wiped clean and we reap from none of them materially. Hopefully you do reap from some positive Spiritual growth in your mortal life.

God allows the war to happen He allows humans to kill, rape and maim one another. I do not know why He allows this to happen but I can only imagine it means that free will is more important to God than coerced 'good' behavior.

But remember above all that God is in complete control, and He filters everything that happens to one of His kids for discipline, sanctification.

Romans 8:28

And we know that all things work together for good to those who love God, to those who are the called according to His purpose. For whom He foreknew, He also predestined to be conformed to the image of His Son, that He might be the firstborn among many brethren. Moreover whom He predestined, these He also called; whom He called, these He also justified; and whom He justified, these He also glorified.
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Re: Serious question. If Jesus Christ is the creator of all things. Why create war and violence and poverty and hunger?
You saw that perfect world. Garden of Eden.

We're being told to pick a side.

This is a thing where we choose God or we choose whoever else.

Simple, right? How come we impress upon our Creator what we believe he/she IT should be? That seems a bit twisted.

Creator created all things. If Creator decides to do something. Who can stop it? Nobody. It is the same with all things. We are not being punished.

WE create our own lives. We only blame CREATOR when we see the suffering.

As far as I know most of the world lives without dying from lack of water/food. We do that to them. WE DO THAT.

Free will is a blTCH
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Re: Serious question. If Jesus Christ is the creator of all things. Why create war and violence and poverty and hunger?
God does not want unquestioning followers if internally they are able to ask these questions. Albert Einstein once said that God does not play dice with the universe. Later he changed his mind when he saw the work of people investigating the double slit experiment. God created randomness. It is sometimes asked of God, if he is omnipotent could he create a stone too big for him to lift. Truth is he has with the hearts of men. He could destroy Pharaoh but that is not what he wants. He desires a likeness of himself that is able to choose. Later philosophers called it free will. Accepting corruption as a possibility is something God was willing to take. He wants something bigger than art, or creation. The expulsion from paradise and death were consequences man knew would happen. God made man understand greatness and naturally man wanted it for himself also. God can delegate authority to his Angels and one of them he allowed to deceive man. One, this angel became more powerful than the others, and two, the world as we have it was born. The consequence was two fold. We lost paradise but we gained a field in which to grow.

Randomness, dice, mean risk, and God takes risks. And the world as we know it isn't the world we'd like it to be. We gained some things and ultimately God will end up with a people that is really true to him and each other. The tempter is gaining power but some day he will be quashed also. Christ said heaven and earth would pass away but his words won't pass away. That is the level of difficulty that it is going to take to save his people.

To purify Gold it has to be passed through the fire.
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Re: Serious question. If Jesus Christ is the creator of all things. Why create war and violence and poverty and hunger?
WE ARE HERE TO EXPERIENCE

“EVERYTHING”

WHICH INCLUDES

(1) ALL DARKNESS (INFINITE DARKNESS) OF HELL

(2) ALL LIGHT (INFINITE LIGHT) OF HEAVEN

hf





GLP