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How did they study the effects of sanitizers on coronavirus since isolation of viruses Has not been achieved in scientific history? | |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 69227895 Canada06/25/2020 05:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: How did they study the effects of sanitizers on coronavirus since isolation of viruses Has not been achieved in scientific history? germ theory gravity electric evolution thermodynamics the list goes on, Theories are never provable, its why they are theories. Physics is mostly the study of how to lie effectively. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 77387341  Israel06/25/2020 05:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: How did they study the effects of sanitizers on coronavirus since isolation of viruses Has not been achieved in scientific history? Viruses are supposedly identified by their DNA fragments. If you read Bardens v LanKa 2016 (German Supreme Court case) It has been admitted that no virus has been isolated. No virus has been transferred from one person/animal to another. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79061892 The main test for COVID is PCT amplification of virus DNA. Since DNA is insoluble in alcohol, how did they test the efficacy of alcohol based hand sanitizers? Virus and vaccine is a big medical hoax In Bardens v Lanka Dr. Bardens tried to prove the existence of the measles virus and expert opinion evidence suggested the six articles used by the plaintiff to prove measles did not hold to the standards of basic scientific method. Those articles were not peer reviewed nor are the experiments replicable. The courts sought expertise and research from German medical institution but those institutions denied to present evidence. Therefore, German courts had no choice to deny the plaintiff any award money earned by proving the measles virus exists. The measles virus could not be proven in court. Mainstream articles discussing this case gloss over these details and try to say that The plaintiff lost due to a technicality. But that is far from the truth. If those six articles could prove that the measles exist on the balance of probabilities, the plaintiff would have won. when you eat poo it makes you ill. eat anything dead not cooked it makes you ill touch and lick all surfaces on the city streets you will become ill. Clean most of that, cook most of it. IT GOES AWAY Easy peasy. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 69227895 Canada06/25/2020 05:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: How did they study the effects of sanitizers on coronavirus since isolation of viruses Has not been achieved in scientific history? Viruses are supposedly identified by their DNA fragments. If you read Bardens v LanKa 2016 (German Supreme Court case) It has been admitted that no virus has been isolated. No virus has been transferred from one person/animal to another. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79061892 The main test for COVID is PCT amplification of virus DNA. Since DNA is insoluble in alcohol, how did they test the efficacy of alcohol based hand sanitizers? Virus and vaccine is a big medical hoax In Bardens v Lanka Dr. Bardens tried to prove the existence of the measles virus and expert opinion evidence suggested the six articles used by the plaintiff to prove measles did not hold to the standards of basic scientific method. Those articles were not peer reviewed nor are the experiments replicable. The courts sought expertise and research from German medical institution but those institutions denied to present evidence. Therefore, German courts had no choice to deny the plaintiff any award money earned by proving the measles virus exists. The measles virus could not be proven in court. Mainstream articles discussing this case gloss over these details and try to say that The plaintiff lost due to a technicality. But that is far from the truth. If those six articles could prove that the measles exist on the balance of probabilities, the plaintiff would have won. when you eat poo it makes you ill. eat anything dead not cooked it makes you ill touch and lick all surfaces on the city streets you will become ill. Clean most of that, cook most of it. IT GOES AWAY Easy peasy. You may be confusing a virus with bacteria  |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 78105935  United States06/25/2020 05:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: How did they study the effects of sanitizers on coronavirus since isolation of viruses Has not been achieved in scientific history? Viruses are supposedly identified by their DNA fragments. If you read Bardens v LanKa 2016 (German Supreme Court case) It has been admitted that no virus has been isolated. No virus has been transferred from one person/animal to another. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79061892 The main test for COVID is PCT amplification of virus DNA. Since DNA is insoluble in alcohol, how did they test the efficacy of alcohol based hand sanitizers? Virus and vaccine is a big medical hoax In Bardens v Lanka Dr. Bardens tried to prove the existence of the measles virus and expert opinion evidence suggested the six articles used by the plaintiff to prove measles did not hold to the standards of basic scientific method. Those articles were not peer reviewed nor are the experiments replicable. The courts sought expertise and research from German medical institution but those institutions denied to present evidence. Therefore, German courts had no choice to deny the plaintiff any award money earned by proving the measles virus exists. The measles virus could not be proven in court. Mainstream articles discussing this case gloss over these details and try to say that The plaintiff lost due to a technicality. But that is far from the truth. If those six articles could prove that the measles exist on the balance of probabilities, the plaintiff would have won. when you eat poo it makes you ill. eat anything dead not cooked it makes you ill touch and lick all surfaces on the city streets you will become ill. Clean most of that, cook most of it. IT GOES AWAY Easy peasy. Dead vegetables don’t make you sick. Neither does salmon or tuna |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 79061892 Canada06/25/2020 06:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: How did they study the effects of sanitizers on coronavirus since isolation of viruses Has not been achieved in scientific history? Anti virus companies teamed up with Microsoft to allow them access to back doors in Windows to install malicious viruses. They created their own demand for anti-virus software. Similarly pharma companies make their own disease and create demand for their treatments. It’s a vicious cycle |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 72199617 United States06/25/2020 06:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: How did they study the effects of sanitizers on coronavirus since isolation of viruses Has not been achieved in scientific history? Viruses are supposedly identified by their DNA fragments. If you read Bardens v LanKa 2016 (German Supreme Court case) It has been admitted that no virus has been isolated. No virus has been transferred from one person/animal to another. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79061892 The main test for COVID is PCT amplification of virus DNA. Since DNA is insoluble in alcohol, how did they test the efficacy of alcohol based hand sanitizers? Virus and vaccine is a big medical hoax In Bardens v Lanka Dr. Bardens tried to prove the existence of the measles virus and expert opinion evidence suggested the six articles used by the plaintiff to prove measles did not hold to the standards of basic scientific method. Those articles were not peer reviewed nor are the experiments replicable. The courts sought expertise and research from German medical institution but those institutions denied to present evidence. Therefore, German courts had no choice to deny the plaintiff any award money earned by proving the measles virus exists. The measles virus could not be proven in court. Mainstream articles discussing this case gloss over these details and try to say that The plaintiff lost due to a technicality. But that is far from the truth. If those six articles could prove that the measles exist on the balance of probabilities, the plaintiff would have won. Royal Rife is said to have isolated many type viruses OP |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 75371558  Finland06/25/2020 11:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: How did they study the effects of sanitizers on coronavirus since isolation of viruses Has not been achieved in scientific history? utter bullshit. The Bardens v Lanka case is presented falsely, basically Lanka had stated that he will award 100 000 Euros to a person who will provide him a single peer reviewed scientific paper that proves the existence of the measles virus and tells what it's diameter is ... as BArdens provided six papers, including the one that first established it's diameter, the court decided Bardens didn't fullfil the conditions, because he didn't provide one but six papers ... so it was a ridiculous technicality that didn't decide if the virus existed there are thoudands of papers on measles virus describing it's various properties ... in a paper that describes the diameter stating "measles virus has a diameter x" the statement can only be true if the virus exists, naturally. teh existence of viruses was discovered in the end of 1800s ... 1935 the scientists managed to crystallize the isolated Tobacco Mosaic virus, this feat was enough for Nobel prize .. so isolating and crystallizing viruses is old history. Viruses can be seen in electric (scanning) microscope. And BTW Rife was a scammer and a quack I'm pretty certain he's already dead and buried |
Jake
 User ID: 77849624 United States06/25/2020 11:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: How did they study the effects of sanitizers on coronavirus since isolation of viruses Has not been achieved in scientific history? Well you can Identify them via electronic microscopy As far as PCR cloning techniques you are simply taking DNA and Amplifying it then Identifying its genetic code Last Edited by Slowly awakening on 06/25/2020 11:56 PM Evil controls the ignorant... Climate change is a hoax so is the vax you have been fear-porned into compliance! Definition Satan from the bible: Satan (Rev 12:7) exercising his subtle (indirect) impact on heathen governments (powers) – i.e. accomplishing his hellish agenda from "behind the scenes." |
| Jake
User ID: 77849624 United States06/26/2020 12:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: How did they study the effects of sanitizers on coronavirus since isolation of viruses Has not been achieved in scientific history? photograph of Coronavirus under an electron microscope [link to www.news-medical.net (secure)] color enhanced [link to th.bing.com (secure)] Last Edited by Slowly awakening on 06/26/2020 12:02 AM Evil controls the ignorant... Climate change is a hoax so is the vax you have been fear-porned into compliance! Definition Satan from the bible: Satan (Rev 12:7) exercising his subtle (indirect) impact on heathen governments (powers) – i.e. accomplishing his hellish agenda from "behind the scenes." |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 40243377 United States06/26/2020 12:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: How did they study the effects of sanitizers on coronavirus since isolation of viruses Has not been achieved in scientific history? utter bullshit. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75371558 The Bardens v Lanka case is presented falsely, basically Lanka had stated that he will award 100 000 Euros to a person who will provide him a single peer reviewed scientific paper that proves the existence of the measles virus and tells what it's diameter is ... as BArdens provided six papers, including the one that first established it's diameter, the court decided Bardens didn't fullfil the conditions, because he didn't provide one but six papers ... so it was a ridiculous technicality that didn't decide if the virus existed there are thoudands of papers on measles virus describing it's various properties ... in a paper that describes the diameter stating "measles virus has a diameter x" the statement can only be true if the virus exists, naturally. teh existence of viruses was discovered in the end of 1800s ... 1935 the scientists managed to crystallize the isolated Tobacco Mosaic virus, this feat was enough for Nobel prize .. so isolating and crystallizing viruses is old history. Viruses can be seen in electric (scanning) microscope. And BTW Rife was a scammer and a quack I'm pretty certain he's already dead and buried Rife cured people of cancer |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 79061892 Canada06/28/2020 02:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: How did they study the effects of sanitizers on coronavirus since isolation of viruses Has not been achieved in scientific history? utter bullshit. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75371558 The Bardens v Lanka case is presented falsely, basically Lanka had stated that he will award 100 000 Euros to a person who will provide him a single peer reviewed scientific paper that proves the existence of the measles virus and tells what it's diameter is ... as BArdens provided six papers, including the one that first established it's diameter, the court decided Bardens didn't fullfil the conditions, because he didn't provide one but six papers ... so it was a ridiculous technicality that didn't decide if the virus existed there are thoudands of papers on measles virus describing it's various properties ... in a paper that describes the diameter stating "measles virus has a diameter x" the statement can only be true if the virus exists, naturally. teh existence of viruses was discovered in the end of 1800s ... 1935 the scientists managed to crystallize the isolated Tobacco Mosaic virus, this feat was enough for Nobel prize .. so isolating and crystallizing viruses is old history. Viruses can be seen in electric (scanning) microscope. And BTW Rife was a scammer and a quack I'm pretty certain he's already dead and buried Read the actual case instead of the biased commentary. The experts used to vouch for the six articles clearly stated that the experiments didn’t follow scientific standards and cannot be reproduced or peer reviewed. The courts don’t given in to small technicalities. The six articles were not reliable. If they were Bardens would have won. There is no electron microscopy of an isolated virus. Only DNA fragments within and around a cell. |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 79061892 Canada06/28/2020 02:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: How did they study the effects of sanitizers on coronavirus since isolation of viruses Has not been achieved in scientific history? photograph of Coronavirus under an electron microscope Quoting: Jake [link to www.news-medical.net (secure)] color enhanced [link to th.bing.com (secure)] What’s the reference? What is the description of those images? |
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| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 79061892 Canada06/28/2020 02:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: How did they study the effects of sanitizers on coronavirus since isolation of viruses Has not been achieved in scientific history? Full case in German: [link to www.positivists.org] |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 79061892 Canada06/28/2020 02:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: How did they study the effects of sanitizers on coronavirus since isolation of viruses Has not been achieved in scientific history? Critics of the judicial verdict argue that Dr. Lanka’s victory is solely based on how he had formulated the offer of reward, namely to pay the € 100,000 for the presentation of a single publication of evidence (which Dr. Bardens was unable to provide). This argument, however, distracts the attention from the essential points. lack of control experiments explicitly as a “methodological weakness” of these publications, which are after all the relevant studies on the subject (there are no other publications trying to attempt to prove the existence of the “measles virus”). Thus, at this point, a publication about the existence of the measles virus that stands the test of good science has yet to be delivered. |
| Fluffy Pancakes
User ID: 77861117 United States06/28/2020 02:42 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: How did they study the effects of sanitizers on coronavirus since isolation of viruses Has not been achieved in scientific history? So,after looking it as much as possible, I don't think there are viruses, but there are other pathogens and the non-living RNA or DNA remnants of pathogens are very likely what we call viruses. More appropriately, they should be called pathogen detritus. You develop antibodies to bacteria as well, and it is clear that governments are jacking around and weaponizing mycoplasm and bacteria. Here's the first article I came across on this topic. Maybe someone will want to read it. Maybe not. [link to www.drrobertyoung.com (secure)] Things are bad enough, there is no need to make anything up. ~Fluffy "Never interrupt an enemy in the process of destroying himself." Quercitin and zinc...Get it. Take it. Visit howbad.info...If you took the shot, for sure. |
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| panther0621
User ID: 27944307 United States07/14/2020 06:42 AM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: How did they study the effects of sanitizers on coronavirus since isolation of viruses Has not been achieved in scientific history? Right here the FDA says its unproven that hand sanitizers kill the virus or any virus. They do not regulate them. [link to www.fda.gov (secure)] |
| panther0621
User ID: 27944307 United States07/14/2020 06:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: How did they study the effects of sanitizers on coronavirus since isolation of viruses Has not been achieved in scientific history? Lysol will kill it however. So I think Trump in his backwards time traveling way is right. we need something to spray into the lungs to kill it on contact like lysol. |
| boo radley
User ID: 75347384 United States07/14/2020 07:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: How did they study the effects of sanitizers on coronavirus since isolation of viruses Has not been achieved in scientific history? Lysol will kill it however. So I think Trump in his backwards time traveling way is right. we need something to spray into the lungs to kill it on contact like lysol. Quoting: panther0621 3% store bought hydrogen peroxide in the brown bottle. Put in a pre washed afrin type nasal mister. Hold 6,-8 inches from mouth, mist as you inhale, hold 10 seconds. To be used sparingly, ie, when you come out of a store, crowd, etc. Mist your face, hands, lungs. This is something important to do even during "normal" times. People, especially the uneducated, spread all kinds of nastiness even on a good day. Dont overdo it, but keep it handy. |
| panther0621
User ID: 27944307 United States07/18/2020 03:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: How did they study the effects of sanitizers on coronavirus since isolation of viruses Has not been achieved in scientific history? Lysol will kill it however. So I think Trump in his backwards time traveling way is right. we need something to spray into the lungs to kill it on contact like lysol. Quoting: panther0621 3% store bought hydrogen peroxide in the brown bottle. Put in a pre washed afrin type nasal mister. Hold 6,-8 inches from mouth, mist as you inhale, hold 10 seconds. To be used sparingly, ie, when you come out of a store, crowd, etc. Mist your face, hands, lungs. This is something important to do even during "normal" times. People, especially the uneducated, spread all kinds of nastiness even on a good day. Dont overdo it, but keep it handy.  |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 79110545 United States07/18/2020 04:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: How did they study the effects of sanitizers on coronavirus since isolation of viruses Has not been achieved in scientific history? Viruses are supposedly identified by their DNA fragments. If you read Bardens v LanKa 2016 (German Supreme Court case) It has been admitted that no virus has been isolated. No virus has been transferred from one person/animal to another. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79061892 The main test for COVID is PCT amplification of virus DNA. Since DNA is insoluble in alcohol, how did they test the efficacy of alcohol based hand sanitizers? Virus and vaccine is a big medical hoax In Bardens v Lanka Dr. Bardens tried to prove the existence of the measles virus and expert opinion evidence suggested the six articles used by the plaintiff to prove measles did not hold to the standards of basic scientific method. Those articles were not peer reviewed nor are the experiments replicable. The courts sought expertise and research from German medical institution but those institutions denied to present evidence. Therefore, German courts had no choice to deny the plaintiff any award money earned by proving the measles virus exists. The measles virus could not be proven in court. Mainstream articles discussing this case gloss over these details and try to say that The plaintiff lost due to a technicality. But that is far from the truth. If those six articles could prove that the measles exist on the balance of probabilities, the plaintiff would have won.  |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 79110545 United States07/18/2020 04:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: How did they study the effects of sanitizers on coronavirus since isolation of viruses Has not been achieved in scientific history? Lysol will kill it however. So I think Trump in his backwards time traveling way is right. we need something to spray into the lungs to kill it on contact like lysol. Quoting: panther0621 3% store bought hydrogen peroxide in the brown bottle. Put in a pre washed afrin type nasal mister. Hold 6,-8 inches from mouth, mist as you inhale, hold 10 seconds. To be used sparingly, ie, when you come out of a store, crowd, etc. Mist your face, hands, lungs. This is something important to do even during "normal" times. People, especially the uneducated, spread all kinds of nastiness even on a good day. Dont overdo it, but keep it handy.  |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 79110545 United States07/18/2020 04:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: How did they study the effects of sanitizers on coronavirus since isolation of viruses Has not been achieved in scientific history? Right here the FDA says its unproven that hand sanitizers kill the virus or any virus. They do not regulate them. Quoting: panther0621 [link to www.fda.gov (secure)] how can you kill something that is not alive? |
