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LTHN.
(OP) User ID: 78992355 Canada 06/26/2020 01:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Shiva ascendant Always replace couplers in matched pairs, it's not worth hassles (like the one you're having). The male connector has a bar running diagonally in the opening, never seen that before. [link to imageupper.com] It's a back-flow prevention or check-valve...safety bullshit lol Good idea, probably significant differences that might be a but dangerous, in that propane is high pressure system, and natural gas is low pressure. I do know the orifices are different in the internals, like the difference using a water heater with either fuel. Wonder if there are any King of the Hill episodes had Hank addressing this. Laugh and learn. Thanks for the info. "A wise man listens to the message and uses his logic and discernment to process it, a fool negates the message by prejudging the messenger." "He whose centre is everywhere and whose circumference is nowhere." |
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User ID: 79072914 United States 06/26/2020 01:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Doing some handyman work this afternoon for a client, she has a gasline hose from her barbecue going to a wall mounted gas connection. Quoting: LTHN. I tried several times to insert the line tip into the connection, pulling back the retaining ring to clip the tip in, but it's not holding it in. Any help /suggestions what the problem might be? 3 pics of the connectors: [link to imageupper.com] [link to imageupper.com] [link to imageupper.com] Former volunteer firefighter - three of the worst top five residential fires we responded to were a result of an incorrectly installed gas line fed barbecue grill. I do NOT recommend a self-install for this. Thanksgiving Day, about to sit down with my family for dinner, we get a call --the entire side of this woman's house was fully involved - step one was having to wait for the utility company to shut off the gas feeding the line that led to the grill. Utility companies have zero sense of urgency, particularly on holidays. After we put the fire out, she was left with an incinerated turkey, a melted grill, and thousands of dollars in structural damage to her home. And guess what, the insurance company wouldn't cover it because she modified her gas line improperly. Just my two cents. |
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That is my arm now; broken for 7 months User ID: 75569412 United States 06/26/2020 01:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: LTHN. The male connector has a bar running diagonally in the opening, never seen that before. [link to imageupper.com] It's a back-flow prevention or check-valve...safety bullshit lol Good idea, probably significant differences that might be a but dangerous, in that propane is high pressure system, and natural gas is low pressure. I do know the orifices are different in the internals, like the difference using a water heater with either fuel. Wonder if there are any King of the Hill episodes had Hank addressing this. Laugh and learn. Thanks for the info. 'Just looked up gas grill gas connectors, they have an auto shut-off if the gas line temp goes over 350 F / 176 C. It may be a piece of eutectic metal that melts at a relatively low temperature to allow a spring assembly to close the gas line. It seems the more answers you get LTHN, the more confusing this becomes!! Last Edited by Louis in Richmond on 06/26/2020 01:59 PM Until your military service has required you neutralize enemy combatants and invaders in the defense of your country, don't presume to tell us that have defended you that you don't support every shot we fired to eliminate that enemy. |
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User ID: 39607259 United States 06/26/2020 02:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Shiva ascendant Always replace couplers in matched pairs, it's not worth hassles (like the one you're having). The male connector has a bar running diagonally in the opening, never seen that before. [link to imageupper.com] It's a back-flow prevention or check-valve...safety bullshit lol So that's only for natural gas then? No, they all have them now... I never forgive and I never forget I am a licensed firearm holder. I will, under protection of law, use lethal force if attacked. |
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User ID: 78405462 United States 06/26/2020 02:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Good idea, probably significant differences that might be a but dangerous, in that propane is high pressure system, and natural gas is low pressure. I do know the orifices are different in the internals, like the difference using a water heater with either fuel. Wonder if there are any King of the Hill episodes had Hank addressing this. Laugh and learn. Thanks for the info. 'Just looked up gas grill gas connectors, they have an auto shut-off if the gas line temp goes over 350 F / 176 C. It may be a piece of eutectic metal that melts at a relatively low temperature to allow a spring assembly to close the gas line. It seems the more answers you get LTHN, the more confusing this becomes!! I have a close friend that is a genuine rocket scientist, i get way too much info if I ask the guy about anything. Make America Strong Again Make America Sexy Again I'm fukken this monkey, you just shut up and hold the tail." |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79076508 United States 06/26/2020 02:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Does it matter that the BBQ is prob propane and the house line is probavly Natural gas? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77700798 Not really. It would with a stove, you have to install different orifices but outdoors where CO is not a problem it makes no difference, the flame will be more yellow though. The fix for this problem assuming male and female quick disconnects are a match is penetrating oil. |
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User ID: 39607259 United States 06/26/2020 02:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Screw fitting are always easier and faster than "quick disconnects" but some genius college boy saw it as a way to prevent idiots from over or under torquing the fittings... I never forgive and I never forget I am a licensed firearm holder. I will, under protection of law, use lethal force if attacked. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78184488 United States 06/26/2020 02:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I only said that because sometimes people do things and let the next person deal with it. You wouldn't believe some of the things I have seen some people do. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76376503 Dude! One time I was removing drywall by cutting it along the stud and some cocksucker surface-mounted/buried romex just beneath the drywall. I was up on a ladder and fell off the ladder, more or less just stumbled off... but my buddy said he was talking to me while I was frozen on the ladder being shocked and I have no recollection. He said I was up there frozen for like 10 seconds. Assholes! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78184488 United States 06/26/2020 02:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Good idea, probably significant differences that might be a but dangerous, in that propane is high pressure system, and natural gas is low pressure. I do know the orifices are different in the internals, like the difference using a water heater with either fuel. Wonder if there are any King of the Hill episodes had Hank addressing this. Laugh and learn. Thanks for the info. 'Just looked up gas grill gas connectors, they have an auto shut-off if the gas line temp goes over 350 F / 176 C. It may be a piece of eutectic metal that melts at a relatively low temperature to allow a spring assembly to close the gas line. It seems the more answers you get LTHN, the more confusing this becomes!! Replace the part if you can't fix it or if you can't figure it out... that is if you can get it at a reasonable price, worst case. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 79076508 United States 06/26/2020 02:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Doing some handyman work this afternoon for a client, she has a gasline hose from her barbecue going to a wall mounted gas connection. Quoting: LTHN. I tried several times to insert the line tip into the connection, pulling back the retaining ring to clip the tip in, but it's not holding it in. Any help /suggestions what the problem might be? 3 pics of the connectors: [link to imageupper.com] [link to imageupper.com] [link to imageupper.com] Former volunteer firefighter - three of the worst top five residential fires we responded to were a result of an incorrectly installed gas line fed barbecue grill. I do NOT recommend a self-install for this. Thanksgiving Day, about to sit down with my family for dinner, we get a call --the entire side of this woman's house was fully involved - step one was having to wait for the utility company to shut off the gas feeding the line that led to the grill. Utility companies have zero sense of urgency, particularly on holidays. After we put the fire out, she was left with an incinerated turkey, a melted grill, and thousands of dollars in structural damage to her home. And guess what, the insurance company wouldn't cover it because she modified her gas line improperly. Just my two cents. I had two experiences with volunteer firemen and both were horribly incompetent. Once during a thunder storm I heard a loud lightning strike and my neighbors kid ran over and told me their house was on fire. I told him to call 911 and tell them the address. I ran over and saw that the lighting had somehow ruptured a gas line going to the water heater, and the gas was burning off as it came out in a closet. I ran outside and turned the gas OFF (The default position at the meter is "on", for nurture reference!. Anyway, I put the fire out by throwing water from a pot I filled in the sink (and a pot of coffee) on it until it was out. WHen the fire department came, THEY TURNED THE GAS BACK ON, and then accused ME of turning the gas on and causing the fire! Another time I had a gas line rupture on my truck and the engine compartment caught fire. A few truckers topped, gave me their fire extinguishers and I put it out. WHen the fire department got there, the had the police with them and proceeded to DESTROY my truck with axes and crowbars, pretending like they were trying to get in the engine compartment. They never tried the hood latch. . By the time they were done with it it was junk. I have told the fire department to stay off of my property |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79076508 United States 06/26/2020 02:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Doing some handyman work this afternoon for a client, she has a gasline hose from her barbecue going to a wall mounted gas connection. Quoting: LTHN. I tried several times to insert the line tip into the connection, pulling back the retaining ring to clip the tip in, but it's not holding it in. Any help /suggestions what the problem might be? 3 pics of the connectors: [link to imageupper.com] [link to imageupper.com] [link to imageupper.com] Former volunteer firefighter - three of the worst top five residential fires we responded to were a result of an incorrectly installed gas line fed barbecue grill. I do NOT recommend a self-install for this. Thanksgiving Day, about to sit down with my family for dinner, we get a call --the entire side of this woman's house was fully involved - step one was having to wait for the utility company to shut off the gas feeding the line that led to the grill. Utility companies have zero sense of urgency, particularly on holidays. After we put the fire out, she was left with an incinerated turkey, a melted grill, and thousands of dollars in structural damage to her home. And guess what, the insurance company wouldn't cover it because she modified her gas line improperly. Just my two cents. I had two experiences with volunteer firemen and both were horribly incompetent. Once during a thunder storm I heard a loud lightning strike and my neighbors kid ran over and told me their house was on fire. I told him to call 911 and tell them the address. I ran over and saw that the lighting had somehow ruptured a gas line going to the water heater, and the gas was burning off as it came out in a closet. I ran outside and turned the gas OFF (The default position at the meter is "on", for nurture reference!. Anyway, I put the fire out by throwing water from a pot I filled in the sink (and a pot of coffee) on it until it was out. WHen the fire department came, THEY TURNED THE GAS BACK ON, and then accused ME of turning the gas on and causing the fire! Another time I had a gas line rupture on my truck and the engine compartment caught fire. A few truckers topped, gave me their fire extinguishers and I put it out. WHen the fire department got there, the had the police with them and proceeded to DESTROY my truck with axes and crowbars, pretending like they were trying to get in the engine compartment. They never tried the hood latch. . By the time they were done with it it was junk. *I have told the fire department to stay off of my property * They had the UNMITIGATED GALL to come to my house asking for donations. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1913722 United States 06/26/2020 02:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | is the insert going all the way in? shine a flashlight inside the female end make sure there's nothing in there blocking the male end. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76647789 Yes, do this first. I assumed you had already checked for obstructions. Here in Texas, dirt Dobbers love plugging stuff like that up. Also, if the shut off handle and the quick disconnect is all one piece, you will have to shut off the gas supply to remove the fitting. Here in NJ we get spider webs in them which blocks the flow. Paid once to see how the plumber cleared it, then did it myself the following years whenever it got clogged. Shut off, remove front assembly, unscrew the fitting and check nozzle for webs. And I'm a girl! Put a propane grill and stand together years ago, which I got for wedding present. Took me 8 hrs. Told new husband to fire it up! Fire it up???? he said. "You fire it up! You put it together!" Ok I said. Fired it up and YAHOO! Works! I was very proud of myself that day. Year later, got the gas line which is the way to go. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79076508 United States 06/26/2020 02:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | is the insert going all the way in? shine a flashlight inside the female end make sure there's nothing in there blocking the male end. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76647789 Yes, do this first. I assumed you had already checked for obstructions. Here in Texas, dirt Dobbers love plugging stuff like that up. Also, if the shut off handle and the quick disconnect is all one piece, you will have to shut off the gas supply to remove the fitting. Here in NJ we get spider webs in them which blocks the flow. Paid once to see how the plumber cleared it, then did it myself the following years whenever it got clogged. Shut off, remove front assembly, unscrew the fitting and check nozzle for webs. And I'm a girl! Put a propane grill and stand together years ago, which I got for wedding present. Took me 8 hrs. Told new husband to fire it up! Fire it up???? he said. "You fire it up! You put it together!" Ok I said. Fired it up and YAHOO! Works! I was very proud of myself that day. Year later, got the gas line which is the way to go. There three or four little stainless steel balls, spring loaded. The springs rust a little and since the balls fit with very close tolerances in holes they are in, it doesn't take much to jam it up. My experience is penetrating oil from a spray can will free it up almost instantly. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1913722 United States 06/26/2020 02:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I only said that because sometimes people do things and let the next person deal with it. You wouldn't believe some of the things I have seen some people do. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76376503 Dude! One time I was removing drywall by cutting it along the stud and some cocksucker surface-mounted/buried romex just beneath the drywall. I was up on a ladder and fell off the ladder, more or less just stumbled off... but my buddy said he was talking to me while I was frozen on the ladder being shocked and I have no recollection. He said I was up there frozen for like 10 seconds. Assholes! Whoa! Sorry to hear that, but I learned a new word Romex today. I learn a lot of new words on GLP. Like there is a word for a guy grinding himself against someone, which I learned on a Biden thread. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79068685 Spain 06/26/2020 02:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Doing some handyman work this afternoon for a client, she has a gasline hose from her barbecue going to a wall mounted gas connection. Quoting: LTHN. I tried several times to insert the line tip into the connection, pulling back the retaining ring to clip the tip in, but it's not holding it in. Any help /suggestions what the problem might be? 3 pics of the connectors: [link to imageupper.com] [link to imageupper.com] [link to imageupper.com] There should be a rubber O-ring on the end of the male grill connector. It seals yhr connection once you screw the cap onto the female connection. |
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Terrebonne
User ID: 79021635 United States 06/26/2020 02:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That is a quick disconnect fitting. The female end has 3 or 4 ball bearings that hold it together when insert the male end. One or multiple of those balls are failing. You need to replace the quick disconnect assembly. Most hardware stores carry those. Quoting: TheGasMan II Just make sure you have the valve off when you remove the assembly. ^^^ THIS . INFJ; We are the protectors. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79076508 United States 06/26/2020 02:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Doing some handyman work this afternoon for a client, she has a gasline hose from her barbecue going to a wall mounted gas connection. Quoting: LTHN. I tried several times to insert the line tip into the connection, pulling back the retaining ring to clip the tip in, but it's not holding it in. Any help /suggestions what the problem might be? 3 pics of the connectors: [link to imageupper.com] [link to imageupper.com] [link to imageupper.com] There should be a rubber O-ring on the end of the male grill connector. It seals yhr connection once you screw the cap onto the female connection. Nope, the "o" ring is in the female coupler. |
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