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If you have a perfect digital representation of face-to-face interactions, contact tracing works.

 
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If you have a perfect digital representation of face-to-face interactions, contact tracing works.
Thread title is a quote from this article:

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My research interest here is to explore how high-resolution digital social-sensing, through for example collecting digital online data or analyses of social networks, can be used in disaster management and emergency response, from terrorism to biological weapons, to climate-change disasters to crowd panics, to energy blackouts or cyber-attacks. We showed, for example, that you could perform a quasi-real time estimate of damage from hurricanes and other natural disasters by exploiting publicly available information that people post on social media. We also studied predicting the spread of the flu in a community by using machine learning over Bluetooth data provided by mobile phones. This led us to believe that Bluetooth data could help with epidemic studies. When I heard from a colleague who is a biophysicist how important contact tracing is in infectious diseases, I wanted to evaluate if we could apply our experience in network science and digital social-sensing to make contact tracing faster.


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Re: If you have a perfect digital representation of face-to-face interactions, contact tracing works.
the thorough Germans. This is from the Max Planck Institute
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Re: If you have a perfect digital representation of face-to-face interactions, contact tracing works.
This study was started in 2011.

Basically it used phone and also Bluetooth data


Around 2011 we had the opportunity to use a vast amount of real-world smartphone data for epidemic and contact-tracing models. The data, which had been previously collected by colleagues of ours included 72 volunteer students from a US university, whose smartphone usage was recorded over 9 months. The data had subsequently been used in quite a few studies. For our study, we focused on anonymized Bluetooth interactions and phone call interactions between these students, with the Bluetooth data used as an indication of face-to-face interaction, which is conducive to an epidemic.
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Re: If you have a perfect digital representation of face-to-face interactions, contact tracing works.
1. It is none of your fucking business who I contacted.

2. I do not gie a fuck if you die.

3. Stop pretending you have ever given a fuck about me.

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1. It is none of your fucking business who I contacted.

2. I do not give a fuck if you die.

3. Stop pretending you have ever given a fuck about me.

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Censorship proves my point.

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1. It is none of your fucking business who I contacted.

2. I do not gie a fuck if you die.

3. Stop pretending you have ever given a fuck about me.

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THANK YOU!!!!


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This shit is revealing.

and it IS the shit of which the greatest shitstorm of our times is made.
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Re: If you have a perfect digital representation of face-to-face interactions, contact tracing works.
1. It is none of your fucking business who I contacted.

2. I do not gie a fuck if you die.

3. Stop pretending you have ever given a fuck about me.

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I know better.

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THANK YOU!!!!


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Thanks be to God.

Have a wonder filled day.



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may we all have a day of good things,

and may the government know naught of it.
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Good thread!

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Good thread!

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thank you!

while the MPG or Max Planck Gesellschaft is known for scientific chops in the German-speaking world,

this made me barf
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Re: If you have a perfect digital representation of face-to-face interactions, contact tracing works.
This contact tracing is Big Brother on steroids.

Then vaccine tracing and beast markers, etc...

We see the agenda.

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Re: If you have a perfect digital representation of face-to-face interactions, contact tracing works.
In reality a digital contact network is not the same as a physical contact network. Not everybody uses smartphones or wants to install the corona app. Or, you have a Bluetooth interaction with somebody near you, but they are behind a thin wall and you never meet. So, based on our contact network we created a second network with errors. The infection travels on one network and the tracing travels on the second network, an imperfect representation of the first one. Once you do that, you can vary the percentage off reality you assume to be capturing, i.e. the percentage of people using the tracing app at the time. You can also vary how much testing capability you have as well as how fast your tracing is or if you want to add random testing. In a real-life scenario, these parameters would represent possible interventions by Federal or Local Health Authorities.
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This contact tracing is Big Brother on steroids.

Then vaccine tracing and beast markers, etc...

We see the agenda.

xrayspecs
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and they WANT so baaad to see us....
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Re: If you have a perfect digital representation of face-to-face interactions, contact tracing works.
bottom line - in 2011 they perfected this already. a mix of phone and Bluetooth data can be tweaked to reveal physical contact.

the Bluetooth data can be "anonymized" so folks don't complain


has been in the works a long time, folks
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