Compelling evidence that Pentecost is July 24 and 25th this year and high watch rapture date

Sure Waterman you know all things. You're so self righteous you can't see the forest for the trees. Stop sending me post. Go seek to convince someone else of your greatness.
Bye.

p.s. stop acting like your concerned for the family. You have about as much love for the family unit as an earth worm acknowledges its own mother.

You are the one who keeps showing up to my thread...I gave you the power to block me from yours....you just don’t understand the broken brotherhood yet...but you will soon. All your aggravation would be gone if you stopped reading my posts but we are brothers and our destiny has already been written as we are judah and Joseph

I look at this picture every day when I wake up and everyday when I go to bed as I had it blown up and framed on my bedroom wall..actually I’m looking at it now and wait for it’s soon fulfillment .....til the throne room when your eyes are opened my brother

Funny that you call me a worm as that isn’t the first time I’ve been called that...lol



Isaiah 41:14 King James Version (KJV)

14 Fear not, thou worm Jacob, and ye men of Israel; I will help thee, saith the Lord, and thy redeemer, the Holy One of Israel.







Whose heel does Jacob the second born catch? The firstborns heel of course...and only Jacob the second born will know who the firstborn is because they always start out in sweet council before the brotherhood is broken zechariah 11

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No pre-trib rapture.

Tares get taken first.

What they miss is the tares were not destroyed first in this harvest of old, only separated and marked for destruction; (…bind them in bundles v.30). Notice the passage said, ‘As therefore the tares are gathered…‘ (v.40). It’s saying the manner in which these tares at the end of the world are dealt with will mirror that of the tares of the old time harvest. It’s not saying ‘Go burn the tares right now!’; it’s saying ‘Go *bind them in bundles for burning.’ Think about it. Why bind them up instead of just burning them on the spot? Because they had to be ‘set aside’ until later. Those tares couldn’t be burned with the wheat still in the ground. It would set the field on fire and destroy the crop! The field was not burnt until AFTER the harvest! (Likewise the wrath of God does not fall until AFTER the catching away at the Second Coming!)

Have you noticed I’m on your enemy list but your not on mine
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.,,,hmmm probably not but the fullness of the gentiles hasn't happened yet...til then friend...the world won’t know what hit them...lol

I wouldn't respond to your thread/post if it wasn't for the fact you keep constantly casting aspersions on my avatar name.

Keep looking at that picture. That is the same method the experts use in their brainwashing techniques. Nevertheless it will be an easy method to recognize me when you see me again. I will be the one setting on the higher level and the dude setting on the floor will probably be a female.

There is only going to be one individual in the throne room and I can assure you it will not be you.

You make the same claim of every name everyone calls you whether it's favorable or non-favorable in how you perceive it in your own minds eye. regardless whether the word is worm, bird, Jacob, Israel, Elijah, etc. But I never notice you have ever claimed the name entitlement of jerk, which would be the more appropriate caption.

Jacob's symbolic gesture of his hand grasping on to the heel of the foot of the next body. Represents and expresses the allegorically example of a future Hidden Man/brother/Symbolic Jacob/Israel/prince. Who comes forth from the hidden/dark/mysterious matrix's to grasp the heel/end/last of a body/ his brother. Thus, to grasp the last body of believes in Christ and gather them together in the end days. (Isa.49.3-12KJV) (Isa.49:1-2KJV) (Gen.49:10KJV) as Shiloh, a fellow brother, the prince, as Israel the servant, not as the redeeming Savior/Lord/King or as a Judah or Elijah.

You are well aware of the ineptness and lack of proficiency I have when it comes to the operational procedures of a knowledgeable comprehension of computers. Therefore I take no responsibility of any form of a cognizant strategy to apply you to my enemy list. Neither am I aware how you got on that list. Perhaps it was through some angelic intervention or a subconscious mind jerk reaction in the flick of a moment. But I suspect I hit a wrong button in the final analysis.

If you recall I ask you about directing me on how to erase that mistake of adding you to my foe list. But I never heard back from you.

I have found that when it comes to you Waterman. If you feel it will put you in a better light down the road when a mistake is made in your favor you have a tendency to ignore it until an opportune time approaches. Then that is when you bring up every ones short comings especially when it applies toward your timely beneficial examples.

I would never intentionally add any man or any sex constitutionally speaking to any enemy list. For I consider none an enemy; but perhaps confused or ignorant of a situation that makes them somewhat unstable and contumacious.

Waterman, I have found that the world usually discovers what hit them in a very short duration. And that discovery is often either ignorance or war. Any suggestion as to what I consider they will find in you. Two guesses and one of them is not war..lol.

Friend you are making the same mistake all the elder in the word make.. it is the younger who receive the greater blessing/birthright and the second born who can see before the firstborn ... please friend look at the shadows of history...it was Moses and Aaron...it was Joshua and zerrubbabel as the two anointed ...we need david as king and Joseph the birthright holder as high priest...sorry to tell you(but not really) Joseph is a mans name.... ...David doesn’t work for the girl either... lol... it will never work for a single anointed to rule on earth when it is going to be set up for division of kingship and priesthood/davidic levitic....that is why God chose two anointed instead of only one anointed....if you wanted to do it by yourself you should have been obedient in 1978 but you weren’t just like Moses wasn’t...just like the jues weren’t and a second one was sent in to fill the priestly half of the plan... you have ample time to prepare your case for the throne room but fortunately I’ve already read the outcome...You’ve read the parables and know the second born receives the birthright...why you trying to deny that friend...cya there



Eve second born prodigal
Jacob second born prodigal
Luke 15 second born prodigal

Cmon friend how many times does it have to show you the second born prodigal has the birthright...you are the firstborn not the second born...be joyful for me ...from what you thought I didn’t make it to eternity...lol...be joyful for me brother we both make it!



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If anyone tried to put me on a throne, I would stab them.

You should as that isn’t your position...lol... I’m just playing with ya...have a good night.

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Soo, who is involved in the barley harvest then? I thought the bride was barley and the church is wheat?

"Two will be in the field. One will be taken, one will remain. Two will be in the bed. One will be taken, one will remain. Two will be at the mill. One will be taken. One will remain"

This is all scripture says about this. That is because those who compiled the ancient scrolls into a book called the Bible decided to leave out the scroll that told of the Rapture. The book is called Enoch 1.

Enoch 1:1 "This book is written for those alive during the second coming. The days when all the wicked will be removed from the face of the Earth"....

Still wanna be raptured?

Enoch was pulled due to controversial content judged to be too radical for young people, women and elderly. Mostly the bit about the fallen angels, Titans, their offspring, pre-flood existence. jmo

The barley harvest was at Jesus resurrection when Old Testament saints were raised with him

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you're still not seeing the whole picture my friend. Your description in part is of that symbolic Joseph witness, The older becomes the younger and his transformation is brought forth from an elder into that youthful vessel of service (Job.33:25KJV); and the birth right holder is given at that time (Rev.12:4-5KJV) (Dan.7:13-14KJV) (Zech.3:8KJV).

But it was always established beforehand. Even before the stars and the sun and the hills on high was his name named. It was named before the Lord of spirits (Most High, Father) and the Word of the Lord of spirits (Almighty, Son, Jesus) for ever. To establish him as the Chosen One, the Hidden One, the Righteous One, the Elect One, and the Son of man. That he might gather together God's elect ones unto Himself (the parables of 2 Enoch) (Isa.49:1-3KJV) (Isa.49:3-12KJV.)

You have misconstrued scripture over and over and are leading many to wrongly comprehend its meaning for the end days even into the Millennium age. Yet you are seeking to continue down this course only to propagandize yourself into your conjecture of self assumption. Thus, your actions always veers off the proclamations of God's Word. Thus, seeking to belittle and mock God's anointed.

I have always believed in the concept of the two anointed ones for the end days. Just not your version and definition of your interpretation. However you claim I don't believe this truth no matter how many times I have pointed out to you the opposite of what you are saying. I have never called you an out right liar. Nevertheless, you cannot be that dumb to contlnue to think I believe as you claim. If your are not that dumb and by now I am hoping you are just a little. Then the other alternative is you know you are lying and are prepared to go where God's Word declares you and all liars shall eventually go.

I never claim to hold both position. That seems to be the responsibility your have taken on. Claiming now to be both syombolic Jacob/Israel, Elijah, symbolic job for the latter days, the high priest who is going to help build a temple for the glorification of the positional purpose of the antichrist glorification. And to make his claim to his entitled deity of all creation. While you absolutely seem to have no conception that the temple of God now at this time rest in its place within the body of His believers. There are too many other names you claim you symbolically hold: Teacher of Righteousness, Aaron, Prodigal son, Eve, a levite, yet you're of the lineage of your father. You cannot be of two different orders within the same bloodline. Ephraim, Joshua, Etc, Etc.

You are not one of the two witnesses of Revelation Waterman! Wake up and enjoy your humanity. We will all wait for you to catch up.

You need not be confused with the order of things. Life is still good, reality sucks, but sometimes the juice is sweat.

Therefore claiming positions never intended for or promised to you is a path you need no longer follow. However In the mean time teaching a false perception of your version of God's Word is threatening to His high order of mysteries yet unseen.

Yes I am still concerned that the fate of your eternity may not be as pleasant as you are assuming. And perhaps your sister's visitation was meant not only for her, me, but also you. And its warnings of your absence of all our immediate family members that were within that heavenly realm at a future time in eternity except you.
Let us hope and pray it was a warning that can be reversed thru repentance. If that is not too late because of a calloused ego.

Bye.

Lol...see you don’t listen very well as I never claimed to be Levite because Levite’s can’t own land and the high priest in ezekiel 46 owns land and this is why that high priest is Joseph because he uses the birthright to qualify to be high priest and being from Joseph can own land also it says he can give permanent gifts to his sons...Joseph was the only tribe that had sons who became tribes and those tribal sons are Ephraim and Manasseh.

As far as tribal lines you and me are one and the same created on the same day and I was brought forth from you therefore I can do the same thing Jesus did he used his mothers fathers line to be from Judah....my mothers fathers line is from England/house of ephraim/Joseph and I was in his household the first year of my life as you were in Vietnam.




When the blessings are handed out if it talks about the 2nd born, birthright, or priesthood holder such as Jacob Joseph ephraim or Joshua the high priest then it isn’t speaking about your blessings....your blessings are firstborn sceptre holder blessings...the kingship is your blessing


You have to keep in mind all these stories in the Bible are meant to be parables and all type parables show the same thing first union of the 1st born and second born then division/the breaking of the brotherhood then finally the reunification






1. Chronicles 5:2:

For Judah prevailed above his brothers, and of him came the chief ruler; but the birthright was Joseph's:)

The formula is very simple to see who gets what inheritance in all these stories...1 chronicles tells us Judah received the firstborn blessing of the sceptre/chief leader but the birthright is given to Joseph...we know 1 chronicles 5:2 isn’t referring to judah Jesus because Jesus rules from the higher realm of the heavenly melchelzedek order where it is permissible to be Both King and High priest as we see in 1 chronicles 5:2 if that Judah was Jesus it places Joseph with the higher blessing as he has the birthright which is the double portion and Joseph is also the high priest as he will use the birthright to receive that office.....we can’t place Joseph in a higher position than Jesus and we don’t when we give David the Judah blessing of the kingship/chief leader office and give Joseph the other anointed the birthright blessing so it can be utilized to obtain the high priest position......very easy to see who is who


Again the purpose of Judah and Joseph is to have dominion Over the whole earth and lead the Jues into righteousness and salvation through Jesus...they must have faith in him without seeing him...as faith is the thing hoped for without the evidence of seeing it....that is how we know Jesus won’t be ruling on earth with the lesser davidic levitic kingdom going at the time of the millennium because Jesus already has the melchelzedek order where he will rule and reign as King and High Priest with the bride and tribulation saints in those prepared mansions....can you picture it the last tribulation saint shows up in heaven and Jesus says “hey your mansion is over there on the hill...let’s go we are headed back to earth to live for the millennium.”......lol not going to happen...the bride and the tribulation saints will reign with Jesus for the duration of the millennium from heaven .....the two anointed will have dominion on earth and the shekina glory will dwell in the temple.

Animal sacrifice will be reinstated as a kaphar for sin as it covers unintentional sin and we know there is still sin during the millennium as the holy shekina will be dwelling in the cleansed final temple and holiness is required to be near the shekina glory.


Jesus takes away sin...animal sacrifice covers sin

The root of the Hebrew word translated “atonement” in the Old Testament is kaphar, which has the idea of “covering,” not total removal. This word is also used to refer to how Noah’s ark was to be covered with pitch.

Make yourself an ark of gopherwood; make rooms in the ark, and cover it inside and outside with pitch. (Genesis 6:14, emphasis added)


Here we see the earthly high priest offering a sin sacrifice for himself and the people so we know there is still unintentional sins going on during the millennium
Ezekiel 45:22
And upon that day
The fourteenth day of the month Nisan; the first day of the passover, as Kimchi observes: shall the prince prepare for himself, and for all the people of the land, a bullock for a sin offering;







Isaiah 48: see how Jacob comes forth from the loins of Judah...you friend are Judah and I’m Jacob: Again showing Judah has the sceptre blessing and Second born Jacob the birthright Blessing

Isaiah 48:1
Hear this, O house of Jacob, who are named Israel And who came forth from the loins of Judah, Who swear by the name of the LORD And invoke the God of Israel, But not in truth nor in righteousness.









It makes it so easy to see who is who in all the parables/stories when you know the 2nd born receives the birthright/priesthood and the first born receives the civil leader/kingship....that is the key to seeing who is who in the volume of the book....all the characters fall right into place and there is no mistaking who is who or what blessings and inheritance they will receive.










Let’s not forget the temple will be cleansed after the 2300 nights and days and I will be in charge of it according to zechariah 3;7

7 Thus saith the Lord of hosts; If thou wilt walk in my ways, and if thou wilt keep my charge, then thou shalt also judge my house, and shalt also keep my courts, and I will give thee places to walk among these that stand by.




.....people can’t see Joseph until the appointed time so I’m not concerned with others dreams....I have a dream of my own...lol



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Why do people do this when certain seals have to be broken first? It's like you never opened a Bible.

Numbers 33:38:

And Aaron the priest went up into mount Hor at the commandment of the LORD, and died there, in the fortieth year after the children of Israel were come out of the land of Egypt, in the first day of the fifth month.



Another good point dr Barry awe makes in this video is Aaron was given exactly 40 years from the time he screwed up the true feast of Pentecost by making the golden calf til his death on the same date...the first day of the fifth month on the Hebrew calendar...amazing

When God told Moses to tell pharaoh to let my people go that they could celebrate a feast to Him that feast was the true Pentecost/wheat harvest when the new wine was fresh and that feast was for the marriage covenant and the description of Joshua and Moses coming down From the mountain and saying who is with us after the worshipping of the golden calf and said come up are Moses representing the Father God and Joshua representing Jesus coming down from heaven on Pentecost and taking the bride who is in-dwelt with the third part of the trinity the Holy Spirit up to heaven as Jesus’ bride.



Notice new wine isn’t ready until July if you watched the video...again amazing...Jesus is telling us the timing.
Matthew 26:29:

King James Bible
But I say unto you, I will not drink henceforth of this fruit of the vine, until that day when I drink it new with you in my Father's kingdom.







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Meant to apply that one of the two witnesses of (Rev.11KJV) is being revealed in the two parable chapters in the Book of (1 Enoch) rather than (2 Enoch,) as I had originally posted in earlier posts. I was thinking of the passages in (2 Esdras.13KJV) that made me misconstrue my reference of the Enoch passages. In which that 2 Esdras chapter (13) is of the same charter/personage depicted in the two parables chapters of (1 Enoch.)

I am going to attempt to try and post my other reply to your thread/ post later today by following your instructions as I requested. It seems a little confusing to me so this might be my last post. Knowing that somehow I might end up accidentally erasing that other post.

Regardless all I am asking of you is to stop referring to me as your partner. Speaking a lie long enough against God's will and purpose doesn't bring something about.

And please stop mentioning my avatar name in your posts. Either in praise or mockery. For neither flattery or condemnation is of the Spirit of God's motivations toward his service for you or I.

I don't want to contend with you or any man/woman. I just desire to be left alone and to enjoy my last few years in blissful solitude. Without having to defend my reputation against slanderous comments or false praise.

Thank you for this consideration.

A very wise man indeed.

Wow!!! This guy says something very profound here. He explains time dispensations are changed at the feast of Pentecost ...Noah Pentecost dispension change....Abraham at Pentecost dispensation change...Moses at Pentecost dispensation change. Book of acts at Pentecost age of grace began...the end of the age off grace will end on Pentecost to bring in the final dispensation ..wow


Start at 11 minutes in and go to 13 minutes

Dispensationalism is manmade doctrine entirely absent from the Bible.

You can’t see these are dispensations or you can’t understand them?



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COVENANT AND PENTECOST to read more later:


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The thing that really takes this year over the top is the plaque/corona virus had everybody in their houses during Passover and the marriage covenant happened the follow true Pentecost after the original plaque that kept the Hebrews in their houses during Moses time...keep oil in those lamps

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hope so brother.

Indeed ;)

Colossians 3:12 - Therefore, as God’s chosen people, holy and dearly loved, clothe yourselves with compassion,
kindness, humility, gentleness and patience.

Jesus never taught about dispensations, nor did Paul, nor did the early church fathers. It's garbage.

Honestly, you pre-tribbers take the cake. I guess tomorroe wrath will start too? Why not as you think the 6th seal can break before the 1st!