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If not for religious nutjobs, the US would of had a secure National ID card 50 years ago.

 
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I'm waiting for the implanted chip ID with banking, medical, financial and religious affiliation all there so I can be readily identified even when I'm just walking down the street.
No lousy plastic card for me, I want to be MARKED.

Said the OP.
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I'm waiting for the implanted chip ID with banking, medical, financial and religious affiliation all there so I can be readily identified even when I'm just walking down the street.
No lousy plastic card for me, I want to be MARKED.

Said the OP.
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I dont see anything like that in the OP and everything that he says is correct.

The same people who dont want cheating, voter IDs, illegals working, etc, are the same people who oppose a common sense modernized ID card. Paper Social Security cards became outdated decades ago.
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Re: If not for religious nutjobs, the US would of had a secure National ID card 50 years ago.
I'm waiting for the implanted chip ID with banking, medical, financial and religious affiliation all there so I can be readily identified even when I'm just walking down the street.
No lousy plastic card for me, I want to be MARKED.

Said the OP.
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I dont see anything like that in the OP and everything that he says is correct.

The same people who dont want cheating, voter IDs, illegals working, etc, are the same people who oppose a common sense modernized ID card. Paper Social Security cards became outdated decades ago.
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Correction, they dont want cheating and illegals working but they do want voter IDs. All solved by a modernized secure national ID card issued to every citizen.
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06/28/2020 08:53 PM
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Re: If not for religious nutjobs, the US would of had a secure National ID card 50 years ago.
This is dumb. Why not just use US passports?

Instead, you want to institute more bureaucracy that will be cheated by Democrat subversives who will grant illegal aliens national ID cards. That willnever happen with passports.

You're trying to give Lucifer away to institute being unable to buy and sell during the Tribulation and the time of Wrath.
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06/28/2020 08:56 PM
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Re: If not for religious nutjobs, the US would of had a secure National ID card 50 years ago.
Now the same religious idiots want to bitch about illegals voting, collecting benefits, getting drivers licenses, etc.

Just another curse on common sense brought about by 2000 year old fairy tales and the imbeciles who still believe them.
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Re: If not for religious nutjobs, the US would of had a secure National ID card 50 years ago.
This is dumb. Why not just use US passports?

Instead, you want to institute more bureaucracy that will be cheated by Democrat subversives who will grant illegal aliens national ID cards. That willnever happen with passports.

You're trying to give Lucifer away to institute being unable to buy and sell during the Tribulation and the time of Wrath.
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Few people in the US have passports. And very few blacks.
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Re: If not for religious nutjobs, the US would of had a secure National ID card 50 years ago.
Would someone care explaining that our State ID/Driver’s license is not sufficient? Is it because some folks never obtain one? Same reason a passport isn’t ample? What about Social security card and birth certificate? Are they no good because there’s no photo?

What will be the terms of a National ID? Do you get it on the day of your birth? Will it display your political party? What will be the consequences if you are caught without the National ID on your person? Will they be the same as if you are caught driving without your license? Or will not having it on you be an act of terrorism?

All genuine questions, if you have Answers, not opinions, please share them.
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This.
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06/28/2020 09:25 PM
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I get it, a working federal system that would actually eliminate illegal aliens driving vehicles,like using US passports doesn't make sense...

...but institute a totally new bureacracy that would be defied by every Democrat so it would essentially be useless...is considered preferable???

Nuts!
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06/28/2020 09:27 PM
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The first person to lie and file false documents to get a US passport would be imprisoned. There would be no leeway.

Why reinvent the wheel for some new unproven system that will undoubtably be abused? And any who file false documentation will be mollycoddled!
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06/28/2020 09:30 PM
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The only need for ID is a welfare State. Now scamper off and figure that one out because I am correct.
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1 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; 2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain. 3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; 4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:
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"It has been rightly said that the “atheist” can't find God for the same reason a thief can't find a policeman. He knows that if he admits that there is a God, he is admitting that he is ultimately responsible to Him. This is not a pleasant thought for some." - ________

Repent and believe the Gospel... Jesus is coming!!!!


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1 Corinthians 15:1-4 King James Version (KJV)

1 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand;

2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.

3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;

4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:
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Using your fantasy stories to justify your fantasy religion is hardly any sort of proof. Thats like using "The Lord of the Rings" to justify the reality of Frodo Baggins.
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06/29/2020 12:34 AM
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Re: If not for religious nutjobs, the US would of had a secure National ID card 50 years ago.
The first person to lie and file false documents to get a US passport would be imprisoned. There would be no leeway.

Why reinvent the wheel for some new unproven system that will undoubtably be abused? And any who file false documentation will be mollycoddled!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70805878


Technology now exists to make cards very secure.

A National ID card replaces Social Security cards, voter IDs, State IDs, automatically cancels voter privileges and other benefits upon death, eliminates the need for a Census since everything is always up to date, etc, etc.

OP is correct, the only objections are from religious types who are afraid of death by some fantasy demon.
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Re: If not for religious nutjobs, the US would of had a secure National ID card 50 years ago.
We already have a "gold star" drivers license that is sufficient to prove a person is who they say they are. If a person cannot produce one or a social security card, they should not be allowed to vote. I don't understand why this is such a big deal. You have to show an ID to do just about everything else.

We all know why. Democrats love having dead people and illegal immigrants on the voter rolls.
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Re: If not for religious nutjobs, the US would of had a secure National ID card 50 years ago.
Now the same religious idiots want to bitch about illegals voting, collecting benefits, getting drivers licenses, etc.

Just another curse on common sense brought about by 2000 year old fairy tales and the imbeciles who still believe them.
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The best thing for you to do is to start taking the liesout of your mouth until your brain is finally empty... and that attitude/will work right up to the day you die and spend eternity in hell... the worst part won't even be the incomprehensible suffering as much as being able to see Heaven and those you criticized in paradise... yeah, that just ain't gonna work for you...
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Re: If not for religious nutjobs, the US would of had a secure National ID card 50 years ago.
Now the same religious idiots want to bitch about illegals voting, collecting benefits, getting drivers licenses, etc.

Just another curse on common sense brought about by 2000 year old fairy tales and the imbeciles who still believe them.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79084684


The best thing for you to do is to start taking the liesout of your mouth until your brain is finally empty... and that attitude/will work right up to the day you die and spend eternity in hell... the worst part won't even be the incomprehensible suffering as much as being able to see Heaven and those you criticized in paradise... yeah, that just ain't gonna work for you...
retards2
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Thread: Bible descriptions of "heaven" are not really appealing.
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Re: If not for religious nutjobs, the US would of had a secure National ID card 50 years ago.
If GOD does not exist, what would be the basis for good and evil, and right versus wrong? Then why even bother following the law?

Atheism seems like a system for liars, fools, and immoral people. It defies logic.

An atheist arguing for a National ID card just is confounding. If there is no basis for morality,then why bother following the law? Why would you care that there are illegal immigrants?

Atheism is a system where anyone does what they can get away with.
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Re: If not for religious nutjobs, the US would of had a secure National ID card 50 years ago.
If GOD does not exist, what would be the basis for good and evil, and right versus wrong? Then why even bother following the law?

Atheism seems like a system for liars, fools, and immoral people. It defies logic.

An atheist arguing for a National ID card just is confounding. If there is no basis for morality,then why bother following the law? Why would you care that there are illegal immigrants?

Atheism is a system where anyone does what they can get away with.
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Sounds exactly like every heavily Catholic hispanic country. Do whatever you want as long as you pay off the priest every week so you can start all over doing whatever you want. LOL.

So you think it takes a "god" to create right versus wrong? Talk about a self loathing disconnect from reality. Completely twisted view of the world. "Anything good that happens is because of god, anything bad that happens is because of yourself." You really are brainwashed and self hating.
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06/29/2020 01:12 AM
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Re: If not for religious nutjobs, the US would of had a secure National ID card 50 years ago.
The poster is begging the question which is fallacy in philosophy. I'm talking about GOD and the weak retort was about god.

Notice they also didn't answer about the basis for objective morality too.

I'm not impressed.
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How can justice exist wthout GOD? If justce does not exist, then laws are meaningless. There can be no justice unless philosophically good and evil can be defined, and thus right and wrong exist.
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Re: If not for religious nutjobs, the US would of had a secure National ID card 50 years ago.
Now the same religious idiots want to bitch about illegals voting, collecting benefits, getting drivers licenses, etc.

Just another curse on common sense brought about by 2000 year old fairy tales and the imbeciles who still believe them.
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You're welcome.
I don't have the time or the crayons to explain this to you.



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Re: If not for religious nutjobs, the US would of had a secure National ID card 50 years ago.
Now the same religious idiots want to bitch about illegals voting, collecting benefits, getting drivers licenses, etc.

Just another curse on common sense brought about by 2000 year old fairy tales and the imbeciles who still believe them.
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Shut the fuck up, you commie bitch.
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Re: If not for religious nutjobs, the US would of had a secure National ID card 50 years ago.
The poster is begging the question which is fallacy in philosophy. I'm talking about GOD and the weak retort was about god.

Notice they also didn't answer about the basis for objective morality too.

I'm not impressed.
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Claiming that religions are "moral" is going why out on a limb. Most humans killed in wars have died because one "moral" religion wants to slaughter a different "moral" religion. Throw in the Spanish Inquisitions where the catholics murdered anyone who wouldnt obey, the same thing they did to the American natives, the muslims beheading all non muslims, etc, etc, etc, and religions do not have a history of "morality."
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Re: If not for religious nutjobs, the US would of had a secure National ID card 50 years ago.
How can justice exist wthout GOD? If justce does not exist, then laws are meaningless. There can be no justice unless philosophically good and evil can be defined, and thus right and wrong exist.
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Your insistence that humans are incapable of anything noble at all without first being led by some super being says more about your hatred of humanity than your blind faith in some super being. Not everyone needs to be led around by the nose in order to decide to do good things.
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Isn’t it your government that protects religious nut jobs under the first amendment? Satan’s religions?
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Re: If not for religious nutjobs, the US would of had a secure National ID card 50 years ago.
Jesus is king. He started zero religions.
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World justice is hit and miss. Pure justice is done on judgement day.
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Man is a total failure at governing himself.

Jeremiah 10:23
“O LORD, I know that the way of man is not in himself: it is not in man that walketh to direct his steps.”

You will soon see peace and safety at the end of a gun. The NWO.
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Humans are a mess. Religion is a lie. Peace can only be found through the Son of God.
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Re: If not for religious nutjobs, the US would of had a secure National ID card 50 years ago.
Thank Jesus for religious nutjobs??!?

"If it weren't for them I'd have had a nanny state long ago! Because I don't know how to wipe my own ass."





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