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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 79054890  Canada07/01/2020 05:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 14364611  United States07/01/2020 05:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | who cares. People die, we will all die one day and I will not give an inch of my fuckin freedom to gain a second more of live. Quoting: Russian Hacker Thread: The False Dilemma: Do you fall for this COMMON psychological TRAP? i dont get what this link has to do with what this person said? are you saying we can be forced to wear a mask and still have freedom ? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 79096016  United Kingdom07/01/2020 05:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 0.04% WOW I SCARED i laughed about this to a lady in a shopping Que yesterday here in the uk as they were going on about it and said more people were killing themselves[commiting suicide } than what they say are dying with a virus , she gave me a knowing smile and told me her job was a mental health nurse |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 75759223 United States07/01/2020 05:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | More monkey-brain math... According to CDC statistics, the average number of deaths in the US from ALL causes stands at 2,813,503 18% of that is 506,430 Have 506,430 people died from COVID-19 this year so far? (As of July 1st, the official count is 127,689) Even the spurious claim that "...many people who died were not tested for the virus..." or "underestimated statistics" does not account for a 378,741 difference. And using New York City (which likely does have a 18% increase) with its incompetent Mayor and homicidally negligent Governor as template for extrapolating numbers for the entire country is both an amateurish move and intellectually dishonest. So where are they getting "18%" ? It' simple... They're lying. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 75575988  Netherlands07/01/2020 06:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The coronavirus pandemic in the US claimed at least 122,000 more lives than would be expected in a normal year, for a rise of 18 percent, says a study released Wednesday. Quoting: BFD But this is just a national average, and the excess death rate was particularly high in virus hot spots such as New York City, which buried three times more people than usual and up to seven times as many during the peak of the pandemic, according to a week by week study carried out at Yale University and published in the journal JAMA Internal Medicine. In New York City, the expected deaths under a demographic model based on statistics from previous years would be 13,000 from March 1 through the end of May. But this time the number of deaths recorded was 38,170. What is more, throughout the first phase of the pandemic in the US the official COVID-19 death toll was widely underestimated, the statistics in this study show. [link to www.france24.com (secure)] The Trump cult and it's just the flu tards will say this is fake news. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 37711225 United States07/01/2020 06:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Show me the statistical data. Everything I have been looking at says the overall death rates are down. They were down mainly because lack of traffic deaths, and deaths of other viruses all being lower, year over year. Show us the STUDY! Otherwise this is fake news. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 40738770 Canada07/01/2020 06:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The coronavirus pandemic in the US claimed at least 122,000 more lives than would be expected in a normal year, for a rise of 18 percent, says a study released Wednesday. Quoting: BFD But this is just a national average, and the excess death rate was particularly high in virus hot spots such as New York City, which buried three times more people than usual and up to seven times as many during the peak of the pandemic, according to a week by week study carried out at Yale University and published in the journal JAMA Internal Medicine. In New York City, the expected deaths under a demographic model based on statistics from previous years would be 13,000 from March 1 through the end of May. But this time the number of deaths recorded was 38,170. What is more, throughout the first phase of the pandemic in the US the official COVID-19 death toll was widely underestimated, the statistics in this study show. [link to www.france24.com (secure)] Now here is your reality check. that 122000 out of 374 billion people. It equates to.ooo3 etc percent its nothing. So we shut down the whole country for that? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 40738770 Canada07/01/2020 06:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The coronavirus pandemic in the US claimed at least 122,000 more lives than would be expected in a normal year, for a rise of 18 percent, says a study released Wednesday. Quoting: BFD But this is just a national average, and the excess death rate was particularly high in virus hot spots such as New York City, which buried three times more people than usual and up to seven times as many during the peak of the pandemic, according to a week by week study carried out at Yale University and published in the journal JAMA Internal Medicine. In New York City, the expected deaths under a demographic model based on statistics from previous years would be 13,000 from March 1 through the end of May. But this time the number of deaths recorded was 38,170. What is more, throughout the first phase of the pandemic in the US the official COVID-19 death toll was widely underestimated, the statistics in this study show. [link to www.france24.com (secure)] The Trump cult and it's just the flu tards will say this is fake news. And morons like yourself will just sit there and suck all the bullshit up repeating it before researching it. Idiot douche! |
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| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 78092676 United States07/01/2020 06:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The coronavirus pandemic in the US claimed at least 122,000 more lives than would be expected in a normal year, for a rise of 18 percent, says a study released Wednesday. Quoting: BFD But this is just a national average, and the excess death rate was particularly high in virus hot spots such as New York City, which buried three times more people than usual and up to seven times as many during the peak of the pandemic, according to a week by week study carried out at Yale University and published in the journal JAMA Internal Medicine. In New York City, the expected deaths under a demographic model based on statistics from previous years would be 13,000 from March 1 through the end of May. But this time the number of deaths recorded was 38,170. What is more, throughout the first phase of the pandemic in the US the official COVID-19 death toll was widely underestimated, the statistics in this study show. [link to www.france24.com (secure)] Now here is your reality check. that 122000 out of 374 billion people. It equates to.ooo3 etc percent its nothing. So we shut down the whole country for that? Thread: The False Dilemma: Do you fall for this COMMON psychological TRAP? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 79081483  Germany07/01/2020 06:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This study is a perfect example of "false dilemma" logic being used, although the term for it in this case is different but the idea is the same. A) More 122K more lives were lost this year. B) There was a pandemic this year. Conclusion: The pandemic caused 122K more lives to be lost. The problem is that without all sort of controls and inclusion of all variables (which is near impossible to even know what they are let alone account for them), you can't say, "Because A, then B." So I am glad you brought up the "false dilemma" thread and the purported study together to give a fantastic example of how the media and its hysteria-driven headlines, as well as the self-serving "study community" are driving home their narrative to justify their continued existence. It's even better that you just let these two concepts stand on their own without describing your intentions to GLP, thus giving the appearance that you were implying something completely different than you actually did. Bravo, five stars.  did you even understand what the "false dilemma" is? |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 78533464  Czechia07/01/2020 06:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Donald Trump March 9: "There seems to be a Leftist trope that the Covid19 is a “hoax.” You do a disservice by spreading fake information."  Good thing I'm not a trump humping loser,and I still KNOW THERE IS NO 'VIRUS', because the burden is on those that affirm its existence, and they haven't met any reasonably scientific standard proving it as such. You morons might as well hang garlic from your necks to keep away vampires, because there is more empirical evidence for their existence than your science fiction fantasy virus. There has been no isolation, purification, evidence of airborne capability, nor evidence that the 'virus' has ever been proven to 'leave' a sample via its orifices, attack another sample, reproduce itself, and induce symptoms in any legitimate laboratory that uses a valid control. So go on, keep your garlic and cross around your neck, and pray to your priest, the end is neigh.  |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 79082901 United States07/01/2020 06:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | the hysterical medical response of putting people on ventilators killed them. Quoting: beeches any all-cause mortality rate increase will also include the myriad untraceable but real effects of the havoc the Scamdemic wrought on the world. thank you, Beeches I wish I could find the yt of the lady who was put on covid hosp. nyc but no cv and called leaving message just before she died on vent that they were killing everyone around her in the hosp and she knew she was next. the numbers are skewed for big pharm and hosp. it's always about profit not healing |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 78092676 United States07/01/2020 06:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This study is a perfect example of "false dilemma" logic being used, although the term for it in this case is different but the idea is the same. A) More 122K more lives were lost this year. B) There was a pandemic this year. Conclusion: The pandemic caused 122K more lives to be lost. The problem is that without all sort of controls and inclusion of all variables (which is near impossible to even know what they are let alone account for them), you can't say, "Because A, then B." So I am glad you brought up the "false dilemma" thread and the purported study together to give a fantastic example of how the media and its hysteria-driven headlines, as well as the self-serving "study community" are driving home their narrative to justify their continued existence. It's even better that you just let these two concepts stand on their own without describing your intentions to GLP, thus giving the appearance that you were implying something completely different than you actually did. Bravo, five stars. did you even understand what the "false dilemma" is? Elaborate. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 79082901 United States07/01/2020 06:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | More monkey-brain math... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75759223 According to CDC statistics, the average number of deaths in the US from ALL causes stands at 2,813,503 18% of that is 506,430 Have 506,430 people died from COVID-19 this year so far? (As of July 1st, the official count is 127,689) Even the spurious claim that "...many people who died were not tested for the virus..." or "underestimated statistics" does not account for a 378,741 difference. And using New York City (which likely does have a 18% increase) with its incompetent Mayor and homicidally negligent Governor as template for extrapolating numbers for the entire country is both an amateurish move and intellectually dishonest. So where are they getting "18%" ? It' simple... They're lying. thank you saving your post |
| Pepperroni
Fck mean people. User ID: 74285753 United States07/01/2020 06:34 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... HUGE: MASSIVE CDC FRAUD UNCOVERED – CDC Grossly Overcounting Active China Coronavirus Cases Causing States to Keep Their Economies Closed Indefinitely [link to www.thegatewaypundit.com (secure)] The CDC is over counting the number of China coronavirus cases in an apparent effort to keep the country shut down throughout the summer. This fraudulent activity was uncovered by the far-left Atlantic proving even a dead clock is right twice a day. On May 21, 2020, the Atlantic reported that the CDC was over counting the number of cases of individuals with the China coronavirus: The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is conflating the results of two different types of coronavirus tests, distorting several important metrics and providing the country with an inaccurate picture of the state of the pandemic. We’ve learned that the CDC is making, at best, a debilitating mistake: combining test results that diagnose current coronavirus infections with test results that measure whether someone has ever had the virus. The upshot is that the government’s disease-fighting agency is overstating the country’s ability to test people who are sick with COVID-19. The agency confirmed to The Atlantic on Wednesday that it is mixing the results of viral and antibody tests, even though the two tests reveal different information and are used for different reasons. I’ve always told a ya, the media’s not your friend.” ~ Chris Cuomo … The same media that told you all these lies for the last at least 50 years, is telling you that Joey Bribes won. For by pharmakeia, were all nations deceived. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 78821230 United States07/01/2020 06:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Oh look, it's everyone's favorite Three-letter-agency virus shill promoting fake studies with fallacious unscientific metrics. Hey CIA shill, please tell the people exactly how many controlled studies have proven the 'virus' is capable of expelling itself from a live person's orifices, floating through the air, infecting a sample, observed the virus attack the cells, reproduce itself, and induce pathogenic symptoms. Surely you can find some, right? Surely you're not pumping foreign junk science that relies on fraudulent PCR and 'antibody' testing and can find a study in which an actual virus was physically observed in an electron microscope attacking a cell structure and replicating. Can you find one? Or are you going to keep pasting fake studies out of foreign countries that use spurious metrics and prove absolutely nothing? Yep. The asshole is back. |
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| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 78092676 United States07/01/2020 06:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Oh look, it's everyone's favorite Three-letter-agency virus shill promoting fake studies with fallacious unscientific metrics. Hey CIA shill, please tell the people exactly how many controlled studies have proven the 'virus' is capable of expelling itself from a live person's orifices, floating through the air, infecting a sample, observed the virus attack the cells, reproduce itself, and induce pathogenic symptoms. Surely you can find some, right? Surely you're not pumping foreign junk science that relies on fraudulent PCR and 'antibody' testing and can find a study in which an actual virus was physically observed in an electron microscope attacking a cell structure and replicating. Can you find one? Or are you going to keep pasting fake studies out of foreign countries that use spurious metrics and prove absolutely nothing? Yep. The asshole is back. Bitch, I never left. |
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User ID: 79083790 United States07/01/2020 06:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | how many deaths were from nursing homes again? im sure NONE of them would've died if it hadn't been for covid-19... as a finance guy once told me, " i can make the numbers look however you want". Articles and "news" from liberal media shall now be known as catnip for libtards. Truth is schilling in the empire of retards. "Yep but for now we dub you toast guy." - AC520845 *PROCLAIMED PROPHET OF THE DOW* ® Let me know when the climate STOPS changing, then i'll be worried. |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 78092676 United States07/01/2020 06:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | how many deaths were from nursing homes again? Quoting: 1-2-Follow im sure NONE of them would've died if it hadn't been for covid-19... as a finance guy once told me, " i can make the numbers look however you want". Yeah, that shit with putting positive cases in the nursing homes is unbelievable. Mind-blowing. |
