Native tribal leaders are calling for the removal of Mount Rushmore

Not even close to the length of the Roman Empire when you factor in the eastern Roman Empire that prospered long after the western empire collapsed and became the Byzantine empire. Byzantium lasted for a thousand years.

In 2004, Gerard Baker was appointed as superintendent of the park, the first and so far only Native American in that role. Baker stated that he will open up more "avenues of interpretation", and that the four presidents are "only one avenue and only one focus."[66] The Crazy Horse Memorial is being constructed elsewhere in the Black Hills to commemorate the Native American leader as a response to Mount Rushmore. Upon completion, it will be larger than Mount Rushmore and has the support of Lakota chiefs. The Crazy Horse Memorial Foundation has rejected offers of federal funds, but it is the subject of controversy, even among Native American tribes.[67]

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He is just misunderstood ! ( ; )

At least he wasn't a "blanket-ass" sitting on a reservation

... "not working" - criticism from my Dad that was More

INjun than

most Americans.

Reminds me of what happened when the Lenin-left mixed together with the Stalin-left in early 1900's Russia and one bunch of ultra-liberals murdered the other bunch.

No honor among thieves. People of the left too.

Part your head from your scalp, disembowel you, kill your sons, rape your wife in front of you as you lay dying and then "maybe" drag off the wife and daughters to use as....wait for it....

SLAVES

There is a reason they were considered savages, and it wasn't because they were known to sit around a campfire of an evening holding hands and singing Kumbaya.

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Yeah removing it would be utterly pointless cos it isn't like it can be restored to prev etc...

Just more political bandwagon bs as Trump is attending on 4th...

Prepare to die, motherfuckers.

Best post... so far.

And you are absolutely spot on!!

Sacred indeed.. meh

Just 17 miles from Mount Rushmore is Thunderhead Mountain where for the past 72 years [since 1948] a monument has been under construction that DWARFS its more famous neighbor.

The head of the figure over at Thunderhead is planned to be 87 feet tall; the heads at Mt. Rushmore are only 60 feet. The figure's arm extends out 287 feet from the body, and it is sitting on a horse that brings the dimensions of the massive creation to 641 feet long and 563 feet high... and which -if completed- would make it the world's second largest statue.

The subject of the Thunderhead Mountain sculpture is of the Ogalala warrior, Chief Crazy Horse... he who masterminded the battle of the Little Bighorn.

In 1931, while Mount Rushmore sculptor Gutzon Borglum was blasting out the presidential faces, Ogalala Lakota leader Luther Standing Bear DEMANDED that Borglum change his design by eliminating Teddy Roosevelt and replace him with Crazy Horse. He was shown the door and in 1939 Luther Standing Bear approached Borglum's assistant Korczak Ziolkowski to carve the monument he wanted for his people.

The U.S. government cooperated fully with his request for permission to use the land and even set up a commission to help with the work. Monies were offered to help fund the project but Luther Standing Bear REFUSED them, insisting that the memorial be paid for through private donations from tribes and white people as a form of reparations. But no money was forthcoming since this was before the days of highly-profitable reservation casinos and the "white eyes" weren't about to send in their dollars to honor the man who had slaughtered the 7th Cavalry.

So, Thunderhead Mountain sits there only partially carved after more than 7 decades... and that reservation money STILL isn't flowing in, even though those tribal bank accounts are bulging and their own people are still living at poverty levels in shantytowns on their reservations.

But: what do you think would happen if Crazy Horse's face [the only part of the sculpture completed so far] were to be blasted from that mountain?

It would be Custer's last stand all over again!

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What is meant is obvious, the whites there.

It's also a great reminder of America's violent past and history of slavery.
The past should never be forgotten, or else we are bound to repeat the same
mistakes over and over again.

Texas should dedicate a huge memorial to Quanah Parker.

I found out recently that the Prime Minister of Canada doesn't actually run Canada, the Governor General does on behalf of the Crown and he or she can actually fire the Prime Minister. The Queen also sets out the Prime Ministers agenda every year and he has to follow it. Back in the seventies the Australian Prime Minister was fired by the Queen through the Governor General because he refused to follow her orders. Essentially, Canada and any commonwealth country's elections are a farce. No, I'm not bashing Canadians and I know American elections are rigged in a lot of ways. I just thought it was interesting. I also found out that in order to own all the public land, the Canadian government on behalf of the crown sets up small villages or towns all over hell. On mountains, in the middle of forests, anywhere they can set one up they do. That allows them to declare the land under the jurisdiction of the government and as a result, Crown Land. They also got rid of property claims in Canada aka squatters rights by making it so expensive to claim land the average person could never afford it.

OK, just remove the mountain.

Problem solved...

Carve 2 new faces on Mount Rushmore on either side of the Presidents. One being Sitting Bull and the other Crazy Horse and the problem is solved. Everyone is happy...

The only one I've ever seen people on here complain about is that demon statue which is not even a human.

Bring it fuckboy

You will not like how it turns out





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divide and conquer, now it's the native indian americans turn

erace history

next bookburning?

Hold on bitch, I need to put on my little space booties.

Cuck maggot, you're dead.

By their reckoning, the entire United States is their sacred land, so they can fight it out with the reconquistas once the whites who built everything leave.

Okay, they can have the mountain. Cut tribal benefits that non-native americans do not receive, yet pay for.

Yes, a casino (sigh) and tobacco store might soothe them.

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Human sacrifice

Pre-Columbian Americas
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Some of the most famous forms of ancient human sacrifice were performed by various Pre-Columbian civilizations in the Americas that included the sacrifice of prisoners as well as voluntary sacrifice. Friar Marcos de Niza (1539), writing of the Chichimecas, said that from time to time "they of this valley cast lots whose luck (honour) it shall be to be sacrificed, and they make him great cheer, on whom the lot falls, and with great joy they crown him with flowers upon a bed prepared in the said ditch all full of flowers and sweet herbs, on which they lay him along, and lay great store of dry wood on both sides of him, and set it on fire on either part, and so he dies" and "that the victim took great pleasure" in being sacrificed.

North America

The Mixtec players of the Mesoamerican ballgame were sacrificed when the game was used to resolve a dispute between cities. The rulers would play a game instead of going to battle. The losing ruler would be sacrificed. The ruler "Eight Deer", who was considered a great ball player and who won several cities this way, was eventually sacrificed, because he attempted to go beyond lineage-governing practices, and to create an empire.

Maya
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The Maya held the belief that cenotes or limestone sinkholes were portals to the underworld and sacrificed human beings and tossed them down the cenote to please the water god Chaac. The most notable example of this is the "Sacred Cenote" at Chichén Itzá. Extensive excavations have recovered the remains of 42 individuals, half of them under twenty years old.

Only in the Post-Classic era did this practice become as frequent as in central Mexico. In the Post-Classic period, the victims and the altar are represented as daubed in a hue now known as Maya Blue, obtained from the añil plant and the clay mineral palygorskite.

Aztecs
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The Aztecs were particularly noted for practicing human sacrifice on a large scale; an offering to Huitzilopochtli would be made to restore the blood he lost, as the sun was engaged in a daily battle. Human sacrifices would prevent the end of the world that could happen on each cycle of 52 years. In the 1487 re-consecration of the Great Pyramid of Tenochtitlan some estimate that 80,400 prisoners were sacrificed though numbers are difficult to quantify as all obtainable Aztec texts were destroyed by Christian missionaries during the period 1528–1548. The Aztec, also known as Mexica, periodically sacrificed children as it was believed that the rain god, Tlaloc, required the tears of children.

According to Ross Hassig, author of Aztec Warfare, "between 10,000 and 80,400 people" were sacrificed in the ceremony. The old reports of numbers sacrificed for special feasts have been described as "unbelievably high" by some authors and that on cautious reckoning, based on reliable evidence, the numbers could not have exceeded at most several hundred per year in Tenochtitlan. The real number of sacrificed victims during the 1487 consecration is unknown.

Aztec burial of a sacrificed child at Tlatelolco
Michael Harner, in his 1997 article The Enigma of Aztec Sacrifice, estimates the number of persons sacrificed in central Mexico in the 15th century as high as 250,000 per year. Fernando de Alva Cortés Ixtlilxochitl, a Mexica descendant and the author of Codex Ixtlilxochitl, claimed that one in five children of the Mexica subjects was killed annually. Victor Davis Hanson argues that an estimate by Carlos Zumárraga of 20,000 per annum is more plausible. Other scholars believe that, since the Aztecs always tried to intimidate their enemies, it is far more likely that they inflated the official number as a propaganda tool.

United States and Canada

The peoples of the Southeastern United States known as the Mississippian culture (800 to 1600 CE) have been suggested to have practiced human sacrifice, because some artifacts have been interpreted as depicting such acts Mound 72 at Cahokia (the largest Mississippian site), located near modern St. Louis, Missouri, was found to have numerous pits filled with mass burials thought to have been retainer sacrifices. One of several similar pit burials had the remains of 53 young women who had been strangled and neatly arranged in two layers. Another pit held 39 men, women and children who showed signs of dying a violent death before being unceremoniously dumped into the pit. Several bodies showed signs of not having been fully dead when buried and of having tried to claw their way to the surface. On top of these people another group had been neatly arranged on litters made of cedar poles and cane matting. Another group of four individuals found in the mound were interred on a low platform, with their arms interlocked. They had had their heads and hands removed. The most spectacular burial at the mound is the "Birdman burial". This was the burial of a tall man in his 40s, now thought to have been an important early Cahokian ruler. He was buried on an elevated platform covered by a bed of more than 20,000 marine-shell disc beads arranged in the shape of a falcon, with the bird's head appearing beneath and beside the man's head, and its wings and tail beneath his arms and legs. Below the birdman was another man, buried facing downward. Surrounding the birdman were several other retainers and groups of elaborate grave goods.

A ritual sacrifice of retainers and commoners upon the death of an elite personage is also attested in the historical record among the last remaining fully Mississippian culture, the Natchez. Upon the death of "Tattooed Serpent" in 1725, the war chief and younger brother of the "Great Sun" or Chief of the Natchez; two of his wives, one of his sisters (nicknamed La Glorieuse by the French), his first warrior, his doctor, his head servant and the servant's wife, his nurse, and a craftsman of war clubs all chose to die and be interred with him, as well as several old women and an infant who was strangled by his parents. Great honor was associated with such a sacrifice, and their kin were held in high esteem. After a funeral procession with the chiefs body carried on a litter made of cane matting and cedar poles ended at the temple (which was located on top of a low platform mound); the retainers with their faces painted red and drugged with large doses of nicotine, were ritually strangled. Tattooed Serpent was then buried in a trench inside the temple floor and the retainers were buried in other locations atop the mound surrounding the temple. After a few months time the bodies were dis-interred and their defleshed bones were stored as bundle burials in the temple.

The Pawnee practiced an annual Morning Star Ceremony, which included the sacrifice of a young girl. Though the ritual continued, the sacrifice was discontinued in the 19th century. The Iroquois are said to have occasionally sent a maiden to the Great Spirit.

The torture of war captives by the tribes of the Eastern Woodlands cultural region also seems to have had sacrificial motivations. See Captives in American Indian Wars...

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read the story about how Mount Rushmore came to be. Its fucked up.

Atlantis is not America, and you have eaten all of the natives who are now imprisoned inside the earth.

You are about to lose an aircraft carrier, motherfuckers.

If you wanted to live, you would have tried communicating in real life.

fine

if we are removing history then the native americans don't need reservations or any kind of protected status


we are all the same in the 21st century and history is wiped clean



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Not quite! Long before even one of those new faces was completed, this nation will have already spiraled totally into oblivion. And beyond that, there aren't enough mountains around to satisfy all the special interest groups who would demand one of their own. How about a 100' tall Harvey Milk? Maybe a 150' tall Cesar Chavez? Or a 200' Malcom X? PICK YOUR POISON but don't expect me to drink the Hemlock!!!

BTW: Sitting Bull was murdered by his OWN people [he was shot in the head by tribal police officer Red Tomahawk while "resisting arrest"]- on the Standing Rock Reservation.

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keyboard commando fail

You are not prepared for the 1% who will take your soul

Maggot, clock out and go home.

What do we call any other people who have historic claims to land? Crybabies, losers, and aristocrats.

Nobody has a historic claim to land. The land is taken by shedding blood a d to the victor goes the spoils.