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(OP) User ID: 77192571 United States 07/03/2020 11:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Triboelectricity is caused by friction, like rubbing a rosin rod with fleece, or clouds rubbing against each other. A transducer is something that converts one form of energy to another. In this case a friction nozzle converts the steam or air work into hydroelectricity. This static charge can be used to power electrostatic motors. Could be cheap to make. Perhaps even practical. |
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(OP) User ID: 78419951 United States 07/03/2020 11:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Triboelectricity is caused by friction, like rubbing a rosin rod with fleece, or clouds rubbing against each other. A transducer is something that converts one form of energy to another. In this case a friction nozzle converts the steam or air work into hydroelectricity. This static charge can be used to power electrostatic motors. Quoting: Helenus Could be cheap to make. Perhaps even practical. Spellchecker turned tribolectricity to hydroelectricity |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 2983237 United States 07/03/2020 12:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Triboelectricity is caused by friction, like rubbing a rosin rod with fleece, or clouds rubbing against each other. A transducer is something that converts one form of energy to another. In this case a friction nozzle converts the steam or air work into hydroelectricity. This static charge can be used to power electrostatic motors. Quoting: Helenus Could be cheap to make. Perhaps even practical. Spellchecker turned tribolectricity to hydroelectricity Triboelectricity sounds like a word that's either going to be banned on GLP or vanished from the lexicon by blm. |
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User ID: 39607259 United States 07/03/2020 01:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Triboelectricity is caused by friction, like rubbing a rosin rod with fleece, or clouds rubbing against each other. A transducer is something that converts one form of energy to another. In this case a friction nozzle converts the steam or air work into hydroelectricity. This static charge can be used to power electrostatic motors. Quoting: Helenus Could be cheap to make. Perhaps even practical. How do you produce the steam? You have to use energy to get the end result... I never forgive and I never forget I am a licensed firearm holder. I will, under protection of law, use lethal force if attacked. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79041354 United States 07/03/2020 01:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Triboelectricity is caused by friction, like rubbing a rosin rod with fleece, or clouds rubbing against each other. A transducer is something that converts one form of energy to another. In this case a friction nozzle converts the steam or air work into hydroelectricity. This static charge can be used to power electrostatic motors. Quoting: Helenus Could be cheap to make. Perhaps even practical. How do you produce the steam? You have to use energy to get the end result... Lots of ways. Just like power plants do...boilers, nuclear power, etc. |
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User ID: 77013656 United States 07/03/2020 02:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Triboelectricity is caused by friction, like rubbing a rosin rod with fleece, or clouds rubbing against each other. A transducer is something that converts one form of energy to another. In this case a friction nozzle converts the steam or air work into hydroelectricity. This static charge can be used to power electrostatic motors. Quoting: Helenus Could be cheap to make. Perhaps even practical. How do you produce the steam? You have to use energy to get the end result... Natural sources Could be used to reduce waste in steam powered engines. Capturing a charge from escaping steam could enhance the engines efficiency. No moving parts is also something that could last MUCH longer than rotating, bearing using engines. It could also be used to meter how much gas/steam is flowing. Maybe mass air flow meter for car motors. If the fuel alters the charge voltage then metering the flow before and after fuel mixed could meter how much fuel is injected. Same could be true at the exhaust. Voltage difference from the metered air going in could meter how much burnt fuel is leaving. Last Edited by Nonentity on 07/03/2020 02:31 PM |
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(OP) User ID: 77192571 United States 07/03/2020 02:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yea, it works for micro currents but it is much more efficient to use the steam directly to a steam turbine to produce massive amounts of power. Quoting: Seeker of Truth [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)] Turbines are very efficient, probably more efficient that this idea. But it does two things it produces mega high voltages, and yes it can be made to perform work No magnets required |
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User ID: 39607259 United States 07/03/2020 02:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Triboelectricity is caused by friction, like rubbing a rosin rod with fleece, or clouds rubbing against each other. A transducer is something that converts one form of energy to another. In this case a friction nozzle converts the steam or air work into hydroelectricity. This static charge can be used to power electrostatic motors. Quoting: Helenus Could be cheap to make. Perhaps even practical. How do you produce the steam? You have to use energy to get the end result... Natural sources Could be used to reduce waste in steam powered engines. Capturing a charge from escaping steam could enhance the engines efficiency. No moving parts is also something that could last MUCH longer than rotating, bearing using engines. It could also be used to meter how much gas/steam is flowing. Maybe mass air flow meter for car motors. Cars already have a mass air flow sensor... I never forgive and I never forget I am a licensed firearm holder. I will, under protection of law, use lethal force if attacked. |
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User ID: 78698051 Canada 07/03/2020 02:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Armstrong Effect Quoting: Helenus [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)] The Armstrong effect is the physical process by which static electricity is produced by the friction of a fluid. It was first discovered in 1840 when an electrical spark resulted from water droplets being swept out by escaping steam from a boiler. The effect is named after William Armstrong, who later became 1st Baron Armstrong, who was one of several people involved in discovering the effect and investigating the processes involved.[1] Using this principle Armstrong went on to invent what he called the Armstrong Hydroelectric Machine, which, despite its name, generated static electricity and not hydroelectric power. ... Armstrong continued his work through 1842, finding a similar effect with compressed air rather than steam, and constructing an "evaporating apparatus" with a specially designed friction nozzle able to produce 12-inch (300 mm) sparks. The electrical charge on the steam was positive, although Faraday discovered that adding turpentine to the water produced a negative polarity. In 1843, Armstrong designed a full-scale electrostatic generator on electrically insulating legs. These machines, with 46 steam jets, he called his "hydroelectric generators". One was set up at the Royal Polytechnic Institution in London and another was exported to the USA. These were fearsome machines, making a deafening noise, and the 22-inch (560 mm) sparks knocked out a man who got too close and killed a large dog. In its day, it was the most powerful way of generating static electricity and was remarkable for having no moving parts.[2] At a demonstration at Newcastle's Lit and Phil, the crowds were so great that Armstrong could not gain entry through the door and had to climb in through a window, this requiring two ladders.[2][3] As a result of his endeavours, on the recommendation of Faraday and Charles Wheatstone, he was elected as Fellow of the Royal Society in 1846. Continuing with his scientific and engineering interests, he went on to become a major industrialist in hydraulic engineering, military artillery and electricity generation.[2] and why the fuck is this pinned? |
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User ID: 39607259 United States 07/03/2020 02:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It can produce electricity with wet steam. Should be possible to use a tea kettle to produce electricity with the right nozzle. Quoting: Helenus Wet steam? As opposed to dry steam? I never forgive and I never forget I am a licensed firearm holder. I will, under protection of law, use lethal force if attacked. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 79041354 United States 07/03/2020 03:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It can produce electricity with wet steam. Should be possible to use a tea kettle to produce electricity with the right nozzle. Quoting: Helenus Wet steam? As opposed to dry steam? Fuck yea. I'm guessing Brief you never have been introduced to dry steam. Yes there is a difference. Normal steam is bad but when you pressurize steam to 1200 deg at 1200 psi you wind up with dry steam, no moisture, Ask any naval boiler tech they can explain it . The reason is simple, any moisture erodes the turbine blades so they use dry steam, no moisture. |
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User ID: 39607259 United States 07/03/2020 04:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It can produce electricity with wet steam. Should be possible to use a tea kettle to produce electricity with the right nozzle. Quoting: Helenus Wet steam? As opposed to dry steam? Fuck yea. I'm guessing Brief you never have been introduced to dry steam. Yes there is a difference. Normal steam is bad but when you pressurize steam to 1200 deg at 1200 psi you wind up with dry steam, no moisture, Ask any naval boiler tech they can explain it . The reason is simple, any moisture erodes the turbine blades so they use dry steam, no moisture. It illustrates my point of requiring a large input of energy to attain this electrical phenomenon... I never forgive and I never forget I am a licensed firearm holder. I will, under protection of law, use lethal force if attacked. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 76880236 United States 07/03/2020 04:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Armstrong Effect Quoting: Helenus [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)] The Armstrong effect is the physical process by which static electricity is produced by the friction of a fluid. It was first discovered in 1840 when an electrical spark resulted from water droplets being swept out by escaping steam from a boiler. The effect is named after William Armstrong, who later became 1st Baron Armstrong, who was one of several people involved in discovering the effect and investigating the processes involved.[1] Using this principle Armstrong went on to invent what he called the Armstrong Hydroelectric Machine, which, despite its name, generated static electricity and not hydroelectric power. ... Armstrong continued his work through 1842, finding a similar effect with compressed air rather than steam, and constructing an "evaporating apparatus" with a specially designed friction nozzle able to produce 12-inch (300 mm) sparks. The electrical charge on the steam was positive, although Faraday discovered that adding turpentine to the water produced a negative polarity. In 1843, Armstrong designed a full-scale electrostatic generator on electrically insulating legs. These machines, with 46 steam jets, he called his "hydroelectric generators". One was set up at the Royal Polytechnic Institution in London and another was exported to the USA. These were fearsome machines, making a deafening noise, and the 22-inch (560 mm) sparks knocked out a man who got too close and killed a large dog. In its day, it was the most powerful way of generating static electricity and was remarkable for having no moving parts.[2] At a demonstration at Newcastle's Lit and Phil, the crowds were so great that Armstrong could not gain entry through the door and had to climb in through a window, this requiring two ladders.[2][3] As a result of his endeavours, on the recommendation of Faraday and Charles Wheatstone, he was elected as Fellow of the Royal Society in 1846. Continuing with his scientific and engineering interests, he went on to become a major industrialist in hydraulic engineering, military artillery and electricity generation.[2] Actually it was discovered when lightening was understood. |