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New Gun Owners Say They Bought Firearms Because Police Might Not Reach Them in Time

 
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Its interesting, 3.9 million background checks, 2.2 million guns. They don't do a background check unless you actually are making a purchase.

Either 700,000 people were denied a firearm (highly unlikely) or one of those statistics are wrong.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71541443


Orrrr

700,000 people
Made multiple purchases - requiring

one background check PER PERSON

Not PER GUN
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79120701


Whoops - got it backwards!!!

Hmmm

Many were denied!

My dislexia
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The police are not on our side.

Arm up and take care of yourself.
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Its interesting, 3.9 million background checks, 2.2 million guns. They don't do a background check unless you actually are making a purchase.

Either 700,000 people were denied a firearm (highly unlikely) or one of those statistics are wrong.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71541443


Orrrr

700,000 people
Made multiple purchases - requiring

one background check PER PERSON

Not PER GUN
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79120701


Whoops - got it backwards!!!

Hmmm

Many were denied!

My dislexia
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" A dyslexic man walks into a bra..."
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even if they did reach you n time they are not going to do anything for fear of prosecution.

vigilante justice will be 100 times worse than any cops could be
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Buy these for those pesky crows and raccoons.



Last Edited by RepublicofTexas on 07/07/2020 12:34 PM
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What worries me is the people who purchased and have never taken a defensive firearms course, or were in the military in combat arms.

The purchase is only the first step. Then you need to learn proper handling and maintenance. Then go learn how to fire the weapon at some paper targets. Finally, get defensive training when the adrenaline is pulsing through your veins so you don't collapse into a pile of worthless shit and get yourself killed anyway.
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“All political power comes from the barrel of a gun. The democrat party must command all the guns, that way, no guns can ever be used to command the party.”

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That is a paraphrase of an actual statement from Mao Tse Tung's little red book. Replace democrat party with communist party.
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Its interesting, 3.9 million background checks, 2.2 million guns. They don't do a background check unless you actually are making a purchase.

Either 700,000 people were denied a firearm (highly unlikely) or one of those statistics are wrong.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71541443


Don't forget there is the 'cooling down period' for some states. They can be 2 or more days depending on the state.

Also, all these background checks, I don't know how long they take but I would assume they are back logged.
So I think the amount sold is actually higher now & will most likely go up more.
 Quoting: Half Past Midnight


Background is completed within a few moments in the store before the purchase.
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From the thread title: 'Because Police Might not Reach Them in Time'.

When I first moved to this armpit of Nor Cal nearly 35 years ago, law enforcement response was literally measured in hours...or days...

Today, with helicopters and advances in technology, the response time could be as little as an hour.

An hour is a very long time, when decisions and actions require mere seconds.

I will continue to defend my own ASAP, until if/when the Cavalry arrives. Don't judge me for it. Locked and loaded x 10.
I've been married so long, I don't even look both ways when I cross the street.
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From the thread title: 'Because Police Might not Reach Them in Time'.

When I first moved to this armpit of Nor Cal nearly 35 years ago, law enforcement response was literally measured in hours...or days...

Today, with helicopters and advances in technology, the response time could be as little as an hour.

An hour is a very long time, when decisions and actions require mere seconds.

I will continue to defend my own ASAP, until if/when the Cavalry arrives. Don't judge me for it. Locked and loaded x 10.
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bump
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Its interesting, 3.9 million background checks, 2.2 million guns. They don't do a background check unless you actually are making a purchase.

Either 700,000 people were denied a firearm (highly unlikely) or one of those statistics are wrong.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71541443


I wouldnt be surprised.

For a while while I was on the no fly list for criticizing Bush I was trued down buying a gun, with no explanation.

3 days later the gun dealer called and told me they approved my purchase.

Cruise

That happened four times, same pattern.
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Its interesting, 3.9 million background checks, 2.2 million guns. They don't do a background check unless you actually are making a purchase.

Either 700,000 people were denied a firearm (highly unlikely) or one of those statistics are wrong.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71541443


Don't forget there is the 'cooling down period' for some states. They can be 2 or more days depending on the state.

Also, all these background checks, I don't know how long they take but I would assume they are back logged.
So I think the amount sold is actually higher now & will most likely go up more.
 Quoting: Half Past Midnight


Background is completed within a few moments in the store before the purchase.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78004549

It is SUPPOSED TO BE, but they have three days

Yep

Look at the fine print.
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Its interesting, 3.9 million background checks, 2.2 million guns. They don't do a background check unless you actually are making a purchase.

Either 700,000 people were denied a firearm (highly unlikely) or one of those statistics are wrong.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71541443


Don't forget there is the 'cooling down period' for some states. They can be 2 or more days depending on the state.

Also, all these background checks, I don't know how long they take but I would assume they are back logged.
So I think the amount sold is actually higher now & will most likely go up more.
 Quoting: Half Past Midnight


Background is completed within a few moments in the store before the purchase.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78004549


Yes, I have heard this is the case. Even here in Kommifornia, where the standard waiting period is 10 days for gun purchases, FFLs have related they often have the approval before the customer even leaves the store.

CA DOJ apparently has a huge backlog of these 'instant' background checks however. Word on the street is that 'official' approvals are taking 14-21 days.

Utter Bullshit.
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Could they buy ammo too ?

I can't find ammo anywhere ,all calibers are sold out
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Thread: Remember folks? Obama Encouraged Crowd To Bring Guns To Knife Fights
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Could they buy ammo too ?

I can't find ammo anywhere ,all calibers are sold out
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Its available online

You're right though in the stores its all gone.
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Could they buy ammo too ?

I can't find ammo anywhere ,all calibers are sold out
 Quoting: REBEL ROUSER


I don't know about 'all calibers'.

I imagine you could find .257 Roberts or 6.5x55 Swede in stock.
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Its interesting, 3.9 million background checks, 2.2 million guns. They don't do a background check unless you actually are making a purchase.

Either 700,000 people were denied a firearm (highly unlikely) or one of those statistics are wrong.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71541443


It's the same background check to get a LTCF. Also 3.9million minus 2.2 million is 1.7million, not sure what the 700k is. More the likely 1.7 million of those 2.2 million who bought guns then went to their local sherriff's office to get a carry permit and had a second background check.
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I sent my CCP renewal stuff to the LSP over 3 weeks ago & still nothing back from them.

A friend & I did it at the same time & she called to see what was up & see said there was a tremendous backlog since everything had broke out like it had.

What I don't understand is where all these new permits are getting their CCP classes done w/ the Kung Flu affecting everything?

She knew the right cop that did a private class for just the 2 of us.cool2
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My tax stamp came in today (9months, lol) so I went into pick up my latest suppressor.

The local gun shop was packed! with whites, brown, and black folks all in harmony. It was a beautiful thing to see.
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Anyone in Swillinois should really check out the Illinois carry website and forum. There’s a few sticky topics related to the FOID and CCW application process and current wait times.

I remember in May the current wait time was at 90 days for a FOID and the CCW was almost twice that.

On the upside, as long as your current FOID/CCW was expired but you applied to renew before it did the law stipulates that it is still current. I know because I had to renew my CCW and got several “free” months out of them.

As far as buying guns goes, if you haven’t bought them by now you’re firmly behind the eight ball.
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I work at Guns and Bullets, Inc. (not in Illinois). The first time somebody asked me about the FOID requirement, my response was "What in the fuck is a FOID?"
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the Government has proven time and again that they can't protect us.
so, we're on our own.
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As pockets of anti-law enforcement activists demand that jurisdictions strip funding from police departments, ordinary citizens around the country assert that they are resorting to self-defense, and are buying weapons.

The assertions come amid a nationwide spike in personal weapons sales. In June, the FBI checked the backgrounds of 3,931,607 potential gun buyers, according to the Bureau. In the same month, Americans bought 2,387,524 guns, reported Small Arms Analytics & Forecasting (SAAF), an industry research and consulting group.

“The demand has absolutely exploded beyond anything we have seen over the last 20 years,” said Jurgen Brauer, chief economist for SAAF.

No official data explain the rise, Brauer told Just the News.

“If you walk into a firearms store, they will not ask you the reason for buying a firearm,” he said. “There are small nonscientific anecdotal reports, though. Primarily it’s a security concern where people are not sure if public security is available while they are on lockdown.”

Individual gun owners echoed and expanded on that explanation.

“I saw what happened in Seattle, when police couldn’t get into the protest zone,” said single mother Kathleen Morrison, citing alarm over violent crimes inside the now-dismantled Capitol Hill Organized Protest zone (CHOP). “I thought, what if that happens here,” where she lives on the opposite end of the country, in Virginia. “I signed up for lessons, and I bought a gun.”



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Might not? Hear, its 30 minutes minimum. Up to an hour.
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Ding ding ding.
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By law you are supposed to be your own cop. The police are never close enough to prevent a crime, only close enough to apprehend the perpetrator after the fact.

I'm glad to see so many millions waking up.

The good thing is, gun owners tend to vote with preservation of the Constitution in mind.
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Its interesting, 3.9 million background checks, 2.2 million guns. They don't do a background check unless you actually are making a purchase.

Either 700,000 people were denied a firearm (highly unlikely) or one of those statistics are wrong.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71541443


Don't forget there is the 'cooling down period' for some states. They can be 2 or more days depending on the state.

Also, all these background checks, I don't know how long they take but I would assume they are back logged.
So I think the amount sold is actually higher now & will most likely go up more.
 Quoting: Half Past Midnight


Background is completed within a few moments in the store before the purchase.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78004549




wrong. depends on the state. depends on the type of firearm.
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4450....lady running for her life

yeah ok...how long for backup

4450....10 minutes

ok I got time to eat my sammich.
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Firearms jam and need one reloaded. One is not enough.

Train and train under less than ideal situations.

An event could occur and the breach happens at 2 am when lighting is poor and you are not fully awake.





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