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I was in SK in '08 when Roh Moo-hyun committed suicide by jumping off Owl Rock.

I lived in SK for five years from 2007-2012.


He was facing disgrace, too. It is a different culture.

Generally Americans don't commit suicide out of shame any more.

I think it is because we can do the most heinous things and not feel deep shame.

It's nothing to be proud of really.


The Romans were more noble than us.
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I was in SK in '08 when Roh Moo-hyun committed suicide by jumping off Owl Rock.

I lived in SK for five years from 2007-2012.


He was facing disgrace, too. It is a different culture.

Generally Americans don't commit suicide out of shame any more.

I think it is because we can do the most heinous things and not feel deep shame.

It's nothing to be proud of really.


The Romans were more noble than us.
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yeah you have zero way of knowing that. their culture fell harder than any so far
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I was in SK in '08 when Roh Moo-hyun committed suicide by jumping off Owl Rock.

I lived in SK for five years from 2007-2012.


He was facing disgrace, too. It is a different culture.

Generally Americans don't commit suicide out of shame any more.

I think it is because we can do the most heinous things and not feel deep shame.

It's nothing to be proud of really.


The Romans were more noble than us.
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yeah you have zero way of knowing that. their culture fell harder than any so far
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so far

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I was in SK in '08 when Roh Moo-hyun committed suicide by jumping off Owl Rock.

I lived in SK for five years from 2007-2012.


He was facing disgrace, too. It is a different culture.

Generally Americans don't commit suicide out of shame any more.

I think it is because we can do the most heinous things and not feel deep shame.

It's nothing to be proud of really.


The Romans were more noble than us.
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So if it is suicide, he may not have been guilty of sexual misconduct he was accused of? (Mayor Park Won-soon)
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I was in SK in '08 when Roh Moo-hyun committed suicide by jumping off Owl Rock.

I lived in SK for five years from 2007-2012.


He was facing disgrace, too. It is a different culture.

Generally Americans don't commit suicide out of shame any more.

I think it is because we can do the most heinous things and not feel deep shame.

It's nothing to be proud of really.


The Romans were more noble than us.
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So if it is suicide, he may not have been guilty of sexual misconduct he was accused of? (Mayor Park Won-soon)
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Oh, I suspect where there is smoke there is fire.

I think President Roh was corrupt as well.


You have to understand that their culture is quite different when it comes to male/female relations as well.


Look, I think he was probably a product of his culture and time. SK is changing. He was caught up in that change.

In other words, he failed to change in time: a vice in Confucianism!
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I was in SK in '08 when Roh Moo-hyun committed suicide by jumping off Owl Rock.

I lived in SK for five years from 2007-2012.


He was facing disgrace, too. It is a different culture.

Generally Americans don't commit suicide out of shame any more.

I think it is because we can do the most heinous things and not feel deep shame.

It's nothing to be proud of really.


The Romans were more noble than us.
 Quoting: Builder of the Adytum


So if it is suicide, he may not have been guilty of sexual misconduct he was accused of? (Mayor Park Won-soon)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78892941


Oh, I suspect where there is smoke there is fire.

I think President Roh was corrupt as well.


You have to understand that their culture is quite different when it comes to male/female relations as well.


Look, I think he was probably a product of his culture and time. SK is changing. He was caught up in that change.

In other words, he failed to change in time: a vice in Confucianism!
 Quoting: Builder of the Adytum


Tell me more about the cultural difference between male/female relations as compared to the US
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I was in SK in '08 when Roh Moo-hyun committed suicide by jumping off Owl Rock.

I lived in SK for five years from 2007-2012.


He was facing disgrace, too. It is a different culture.

Generally Americans don't commit suicide out of shame any more.

I think it is because we can do the most heinous things and not feel deep shame.

It's nothing to be proud of really.


The Romans were more noble than us.
 Quoting: Builder of the Adytum


So if it is suicide, he may not have been guilty of sexual misconduct he was accused of? (Mayor Park Won-soon)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78892941


Oh, I suspect where there is smoke there is fire.

I think President Roh was corrupt as well.


You have to understand that their culture is quite different when it comes to male/female relations as well.


Look, I think he was probably a product of his culture and time. SK is changing. He was caught up in that change.

In other words, he failed to change in time: a vice in Confucianism!
 Quoting: Builder of the Adytum


Tell me more about the cultural difference between male/female relations as compared to the US
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78892941


Well, I think they were a lot later to jumping on this modernity thing in general.

They are a very conservative society in many ways.

It is not ok to sexually harrass your secretary, of course, but this man was a product of a different time in a different country.


Like I say, he was caught up in the change.
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"They must often change, who would be constant in happiness or wisdom."

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Disappointing it wasnt the Mayor of London found dead.
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Disappointing it wasnt the Mayor of London found dead.
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I would have preferred New York City, Los Angeles, Washington D.C., Minneapolis, Seattle...

I could go on and on.
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So if it is suicide, he may not have been guilty of sexual misconduct he was accused of? (Mayor Park Won-soon)
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Oh, I suspect where there is smoke there is fire.

I think President Roh was corrupt as well.


You have to understand that their culture is quite different when it comes to male/female relations as well.


Look, I think he was probably a product of his culture and time. SK is changing. He was caught up in that change.

In other words, he failed to change in time: a vice in Confucianism!
 Quoting: Builder of the Adytum


Tell me more about the cultural difference between male/female relations as compared to the US
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78892941


Well, I think they were a lot later to jumping on this modernity thing in general.

They are a very conservative society in many ways.

It is not ok to sexually harrass your secretary, of course, but this man was a product of a different time in a different country.


Like I say, he was caught up in the change.
 Quoting: Builder of the Adytum


My first thought was this may be related to the G.M. thing.
While sexually harassment of your secretary is shameful, I wouldn't think it would be cause for suicide.
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I was in SK in '08 when Roh Moo-hyun committed suicide by jumping off Owl Rock.

I lived in SK for five years from 2007-2012.


He was facing disgrace, too. It is a different culture.

Generally Americans don't commit suicide out of shame any more.

I think it is because we can do the most heinous things and not feel deep shame.

It's nothing to be proud of really.


The Romans were more noble than us.
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yeah you have zero way of knowing that. their culture fell harder than any so far
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we know that from their writings though
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Oh, I suspect where there is smoke there is fire.

I think President Roh was corrupt as well.


You have to understand that their culture is quite different when it comes to male/female relations as well.


Look, I think he was probably a product of his culture and time. SK is changing. He was caught up in that change.

In other words, he failed to change in time: a vice in Confucianism!
 Quoting: Builder of the Adytum


Tell me more about the cultural difference between male/female relations as compared to the US
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78892941


Well, I think they were a lot later to jumping on this modernity thing in general.

They are a very conservative society in many ways.

It is not ok to sexually harrass your secretary, of course, but this man was a product of a different time in a different country.


Like I say, he was caught up in the change.
 Quoting: Builder of the Adytum


My first thought was this may be related to the G.M. thing.
While sexually harassment of your secretary is shameful, I wouldn't think it would be cause for suicide.
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It would be scandalous nowadays in Korea.

In times past, it would have been swept under the rug.


Same in America, but this change is more recent in SK.
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Disappointing it wasnt the Mayor of London found dead.
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I would have preferred New York City, Los Angeles, Washington D.C., Minneapolis, Seattle...

I could go on and on.
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You've seen one leftwinger, you've seen 'em all.

From a social, cultural standpoint, the US is more liberal than South Korea is. Yet they're smack up against a barbaric ultra-liberal regime known as North Korea.

Yea, nuances between the left and right do vary throughout the world. But, in general, the increasing chaos, meanness and decadence of America is mainly a leftwing phenomenon, not a rightwing one.
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He went too-soon.
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a mayor picks up the trash and keeps up the road maintenance. why should we care?
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My take and I could be wrong.

He was probably guilty of something bad, because suicide is usually a symptom of 'no hope' or you don't see any hope. I'm a bad person and everybody knows, there's no hope in any of that. Whereas being accused of false crime can often still present hope of being redeemed in a court, and can have the effect of giving one purpose and thereby hope. Jsut my take on it.
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So, is it true or what? Yonhap reported this earlier, but apparently the police denied it.
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So, is it true or what? Yonhap reported this earlier, but apparently the police denied it.
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Yonhap is one of the main news agencies in SK.

It's like our AP.


I'm gonna call this one confirmed unless evidence is provided that proves it fals.
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rome is still alive..through bloodlines

still creepy pedos in power

still flamers in diguise

i often think we are still watching the fall of rome
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The tweet I took that Yonhap link from was from Yonhap and and after the police denial.

They appear to be sticking to their story.

I suspect it will all come out in the wash.

It took a while for the full story of President Rohs' suicide to become public.
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So, is it true or what? Yonhap reported this earlier, but apparently the police denied it.
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Yonhap is one of the main news agencies in SK.

It's like our AP.


I'm gonna call this one confirmed unless evidence is provided that proves it false.
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Looks as if it's hitting the international wires now. So I would go with true.

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Disappointing it wasnt the Mayor of London found dead.
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I would have preferred New York City, Los Angeles, Washington D.C., Minneapolis, Seattle...

I could go on and on.
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:This1:
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I was in SK in '08 when Roh Moo-hyun committed suicide by jumping off Owl Rock.

I lived in SK for five years from 2007-2012.


He was facing disgrace, too. It is a different culture.

Generally Americans don't commit suicide out of shame any more.

I think it is because we can do the most heinous things and not feel deep shame.

It's nothing to be proud of really.


The Romans were more noble than us.
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When did Americans ever commit suicide due to shame? Its generally an Eastern culture.

Suicide such a harakiri, kamikaze, suicide bombing, self-immolation are usually found in the Eastern regions, such as the Mddle-East, South Asia and East Asia.
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Disappointing it wasnt the Mayor of London found dead.
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I would have preferred New York City, Los Angeles, Washington D.C., Minneapolis, Seattle...

I could go on and on.
 Quoting: Builder of the Adytum



You've seen one leftwinger, you've seen 'em all.

From a social, cultural standpoint, the US is more liberal than South Korea is. Yet they're smack up against a barbaric ultra-liberal regime known as North Korea.

Yea, nuances between the left and right do vary throughout the world. But, in general, the increasing chaos, meanness and decadence of America is mainly a leftwing phenomenon, not a rightwing one.
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I dont know who is more "liberal, left or right".

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