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(OP) User ID: 76803670  United States07/12/2020 09:39 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: How to determine the true Pentecost date and why it is a possible time of the rapture before the new world order begins (Simple notes from Bible study) Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71518620 The Bible is filled with references to harvests. Right up to the FINAL HARVEST of the wheat and the tares. Wheat and tares are both physical and spiritual terms. Noah was the nearly-extinct "wheat" living in a world filled with tares, so God flooded the world to destroy the tares. Lot was also a "wheat" and the tares were the wicked people living in the cities of Sodom & Gomorrah. Today the wheat and the tares grow together and appear the same until the grains of fruit begin to appear. By the time of harvest it will be very evident of the difference in the two. The parable of Jesus acknowledged that this is how it will be. Grow together. Until the harvest. Jesus accused the Pharisee's of being the seed of serpent, whose father was the devil. THE SEED of the serpent. The seed that was sewn into the wheat field by the enemy, in the parable. Do a Bible study on that subject if you really want to know who they are. Anyway. Jesus instructed us not to pluck out the tares that we might notice - pretending to be believers. They are counterfeit wheat, realistic fakes. Their fruit is not good. Do not try to judge or point out who they might be. That is not our job. Instead, true believers (wheat) are to wait until the harvest, when God separates the wheat from the tares and the reapers (angels) are instructed to first - gather & bundle the tares, then, bind them up together - to burn them. The wheat is then gathered into the barn. Matthew 3 11-12 .. God will gather His wheat .. The wheat will be safe. They have been carefully watched-over and given protection because they belong to God. The tares are bound up together. They will be burned. The harvest season of the wheat is happening. Now. You will know when the wheat harvest happens as the graves will be opened and the dead in Christ will be raised and those who remain with oil in their lamps will meet with them And Jesus in the air.  No. you might be evacuated to ship.. but not meeting in the air. You cannot float in the air on clouds and heaven is not clouds. This is how you would meet in  the air.I have no doubt you have no intentions of going...you have made it very clear....but for those who are watching for his glorious return the scripture is very clear.....not everyone is the bride...not everyone is going to meet Jesus in the air...perhaps that’s not your destiny...but for the bride: 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17 King James Version (KJV) 16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: 17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. -Heed the warning or endure the mourning Favor ain't fair |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 79140234 United States07/13/2020 12:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: How to determine the true Pentecost date and why it is a possible time of the rapture before the new world order begins No secrets. No whispering. Loud and clear, Shout it out loud. [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] |
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(OP) User ID: 76803670 United States07/13/2020 06:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: How to determine the true Pentecost date and why it is a possible time of the rapture before the new world order begins Jesus answered him, "I spoke openly to the world. I always taught in synagogues and in the temple, where the Je*ws always meet, and in secret I have said nothing." Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79140234 John18:20 Why Jesus speaks in parables 10 Jesus’ disciples came and said to him, “Why do you use parables when you speak to the crowds?” 11 Jesus replied, “Because they haven’t received the secrets of the kingdom of heaven, but you have. 12 For those who have will receive more and they will have more than enough. But as for those who don’t have, even the little they have will be taken away from them. 13 This is why I speak to the crowds in parables: although they see, they don’t really see; and although they hear, they don’t really hear or understand. 14 What Isaiah prophesied has become completely true for them: You will hear, to be sure, but never understand; and you will certainly see but never recognize what you are seeing. 15 For this people’s senses have become calloused, and they’ve become hard of hearing, and they’ve shut their eyes so that they won’t see with their eyes or hear with their ears or understand with their minds, and change their hearts and lives that I may heal them.[a] 16 “Happy are your eyes because they see. Happy are your ears because they hear. 17 I assure you that many prophets and righteous people wanted to see what you see and hear what you hear, but they didn’t. Last Edited by waterman on 07/13/2020 06:57 AM -Heed the warning or endure the mourning Favor ain't fair |
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(OP) User ID: 76803670 United States07/13/2020 10:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: How to determine the true Pentecost date and why it is a possible time of the rapture before the new world order begins Notice the “harvest” is the end of the age...Pentecost/wheat harvest will be the end of the age of grace Matthew 13:39: Matthew 13:39 New International Version (NIV) 39 and the enemy who sows them is the devil. The harvest is the end of the age, and the harvesters are angels. Very important thing to keep in mind....there are 3 harvests....passover/barley which was Jesus and Old Testament saints resurrection/end of the age of law....then Pentecost/wheat harvest for the bride and the end of the age of grace....and finally feast of tabernacles/grape harvest for the tribulation saints/end of faith in Jesus with martyrdom age One very important thing to notice is the passover barley harvest lasts 8 days and the tabernacles grape harvest lasts 7 days...and we read in Leviticus 23 about the 3 harvests and how long they last but it doesn’t give a time period for the Pentecost/wheat harvest but if the other 2 harvests last 7 and 8 days it stands to reason Pentecost/wheat harvest would last at least 7 days....this also would make the scripture “ no man knows the day or hour” very true....we should watch from sunset on July 18th until sunset on July 25th in case Pentecost harvest lasts a week like the other 2 harvests Last Edited by waterman on 07/13/2020 10:34 AM -Heed the warning or endure the mourning Favor ain't fair |
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(OP) User ID: 51660013 United States07/13/2020 02:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: How to determine the true Pentecost date and why it is a possible time of the rapture before the new world order begins Everybody was in their houses during Passover this year because of the plaque/corona...just like in the time of Moses....right before the mt. sianai covenant on Pentecost Also I don’t see us getting to another pentecost next year before mandatory vaccines are required which will change everyone’s dna just like in the times of the fallen angels mating with humans changing their dna  Last Edited by waterman on 07/13/2020 03:09 PM -Heed the warning or endure the mourning Favor ain't fair |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 71518620 United States07/13/2020 04:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: How to determine the true Pentecost date and why it is a possible time of the rapture before the new world order begins In Mark 13 32-33 we are instructed to stay alert and watch. Calling themselves watchers or watchmen, that's what they do. They study, seek and reveal what they find. They give warnings mostly. Warnings of the Biblical signs that may be prophetical and signs in the heavens. These watchmen and women tell anyone who has ears to hear and eyes to see about the things that are coming upon the earth. There are videos, web sites and people on street corners with big signs telling people about this year. Some have waited all their lives for this. Patiently waiting and longing for this time.. they have been revealing what they see. Jesus told us to watch. Take heed. Pray. Do not be caught off guard. When you do that, you get informed. This year is a blow out of signs. Big time. Beyond anything that I have ever seen. Find the Narrow Way. Find Jesus as Savior and give your life to Him. Last call. |
| Intruth
User ID: 73437026 United States07/13/2020 10:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: How to determine the true Pentecost date and why it is a possible time of the rapture before the new world order begins [link to www.timeanddate.com (secure)] Last Edited by Intruth on 07/13/2020 10:12 PM |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 78527715  Malta07/13/2020 10:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: How to determine the true Pentecost date and why it is a possible time of the rapture before the new world order begins [link to www.hope-of-israel.org (secure)] Quoting: waterman The Rabbis teach that SPRING WHEAT -- that which is planted in the spring and reaped four months later in the summer -- cannot be eaten until the following year because it is considered chodosh/NEW grain/meat. Not realizing that YEHOVAH God commanded the NEW GRAIN OFFERING (which would be from the Pentecost wheat and therefore the spring wheat that is harvested in the summer) to be the true Pentecost wheat, they blindly teach an early Pentecost (Shavuot) in the Hebrew month of Sivan. They believe that anything planted during or after Passover cannot be eaten until after the next Passover wave sheaf has been waved. Blasphemy. |
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(OP) User ID: 76803670 United States07/13/2020 10:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: How to determine the true Pentecost date and why it is a possible time of the rapture before the new world order begins You have the timeline too short...there are 3 harvests..passover Pentecost and tabernacles...Leviticus tells us passover harvest lasts 8 days and tabernacles harvest lasts 7 days...Leviticus doesn’t give an amount of days for Pentecost so being it is a harvest feast let’s give it 7 days also so the time frame is July 18th at sunset until July 25 sunset....here it is on the calendar  -Heed the warning or endure the mourning Favor ain't fair |
| waterman
(OP) User ID: 76803670 United States07/13/2020 11:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: How to determine the true Pentecost date and why it is a possible time of the rapture before the new world order begins [link to www.hope-of-israel.org (secure)] Quoting: waterman The Rabbis teach that SPRING WHEAT -- that which is planted in the spring and reaped four months later in the summer -- cannot be eaten until the following year because it is considered chodosh/NEW grain/meat. Not realizing that YEHOVAH God commanded the NEW GRAIN OFFERING (which would be from the Pentecost wheat and therefore the spring wheat that is harvested in the summer) to be the true Pentecost wheat, they blindly teach an early Pentecost (Shavuot) in the Hebrew month of Sivan. They believe that anything planted during or after Passover cannot be eaten until after the next Passover wave sheaf has been waved. Blasphemy. I’m sure they aren’t doing it on purpose...they are blinded to seeing true Pentecost because they rejected Jesus as Messiah at his first coming so they are blinded to seeing the true Pentecost because Pentecost is the harvest of the wheat/bride and they aren’t part of the bride.  -Heed the warning or endure the mourning Favor ain't fair |
| waterman
(OP) User ID: 76803670 United States07/13/2020 11:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: How to determine the true Pentecost date and why it is a possible time of the rapture before the new world order begins In Mark 13 32-33 we are instructed to stay alert and watch. Calling themselves watchers or watchmen, that's what they do. They study, seek and reveal what they find. They give warnings mostly. Warnings of the Biblical signs that may be prophetical and signs in the heavens. These watchmen and women tell anyone who has ears to hear and eyes to see about the things that are coming upon the earth. There are videos, web sites and people on street corners with big signs telling people about this year. Some have waited all their lives for this. Patiently waiting and longing for this time.. they have been revealing what they see. Jesus told us to watch. Take heed. Pray. Do not be caught off guard. When you do that, you get informed. This year is a blow out of signs. Big time. Beyond anything that I have ever seen. Find the Narrow Way. Find Jesus as Savior and give your life to Him. Last call. You get it...thanks for your post  -Heed the warning or endure the mourning Favor ain't fair |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 77052010 United States07/13/2020 11:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: How to determine the true Pentecost date and why it is a possible time of the rapture before the new world order begins “Then two men will be in the field: one will be taken and the other left. Two women will be grinding at the mill: one will be taken and the other left.“ Sounds like a harvest season. |
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(OP) User ID: 76803670 United States07/14/2020 08:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: How to determine the true Pentecost date and why it is a possible time of the rapture before the new world order begins [link to faith.edu (secure)] The “Falling Away” is the Rapture Two possible solutions have been presented as to the identity of the “falling away.” The first solution is the one traditionally given and is still the most popular view today. It understands the “falling away” as a great apostasy or departure from the faith. Almost any standard commentary will defend this position. For a detailed defense of this view see The Thessalonian Epistles by D. Edmond Hiebert. Basically the argument is that the Greek word translated “falling away” means a religious apostasy. The second solution which is possible understands the “falling away” as a reference to the rapture of the church. This view is defended by E. Schuyler English in his book, Re-Thinking the Rapture. There are four reasons which, when taken together, seem to indicate that Paul was referring to the rapture when he mentioned this term. Read the rest at the link [link to faith.edu (secure)] Last Edited by waterman on 07/14/2020 08:14 AM -Heed the warning or endure the mourning Favor ain't fair |
| B rad Watt son - Christ II User ID: 73113082 United States07/14/2020 08:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: How to determine the true Pentecost date and why it is a possible time of the rapture before the new world order begins These are the "7 Seals" revealed as 'Beyond Einstein Theories'; google that and they're on GLP... #1: The Conglomerate - Universe Creation Theory (combining GOD, General Relativity, and Quantum Mechanics), GOD-guided/Reincarnating God-incarnate led (Co)Evolution Theory #2: GOD=7_4 or FOD=6_4 (on Planet Nestor); FIG=6|7 Bible & Buddha Code - Design Worlds Theory/Theory of Everything #3: Unified Strings 21 or 19 (Dimensions & Aspects of Spacetime) - Physics' Theory of Everything #4: S=19 (18.6) Theory #5: GOD Defined & Proven, Faster-than-Light Speed & Power of (GOD's) Thought Theory #6: The Reincarnating God-incarnate Defined & Proven, Theory of Renativity, Conglomeratal Energy eternal & Conglomeratal Relationships eternal Theories (based on E=mc^2) #7: Reincarnation Theory - 26 Principles including Theory of Luck Equation & Buddhists' 4 points (ex. Einstein returned as Watson[77]) I AM the returned Christ, Abraham Lincoln and Albert Einstein reincarnated. This is The Apocalypse/Revelation which is NOT the 'end of the world' - it's the 2nd Coming. I've fulfilled the prophecy of Rev 5:1 by producing the "book/scroll sealed with 7 seals". This has triggered the "plague, locusts, economic collapse, civil unrest, storms/floods/hail, record heat, fires, etc. Google: Seven Seals revealed. They can be found on GLP. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 75906524 United States07/15/2020 10:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: How to determine the true Pentecost date and why it is a possible time of the rapture before the new world order begins “Then two men will be in the field: one will be taken and the other left. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77052010 Two women will be grinding at the mill: one will be taken and the other left.“ Sounds like a harvest season. Read that in context. You don't want to be one of the ones taken. It won't end well for you. |
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User ID: 77052010 United States07/15/2020 11:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: How to determine the true Pentecost date and why it is a possible time of the rapture before the new world order begins “Then two men will be in the field: one will be taken and the other left. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77052010 Two women will be grinding at the mill: one will be taken and the other left.“ Sounds like a harvest season. Read that in context. You don't want to be one of the ones taken. It won't end well for you. Prior to those verses, Jesus talks about the time before the flood: people were eating, drinking and marrying - business as usual. Then He says two men will be in the field - one taken and one left. Two women will be working in the mill - one taken and one left. Sounds like life is going on as if it's business as usual. In fact, it's hard to believe that this is an end-of-Tribulation scene. How is it that a person can get a job in a mill without the mark? And after all the plagues and destruction of the tribulation, it's hard to picture there being any fields or mills to work in. Jesus follows up: "Therefore you also be ready, for the Son of Man is coming at an hour you do not expect." At the end of the Tribulation, any believer that is left should be expecting His appearing, down to the day. “And he brought them out and said, 'Sirs, what must I do to be saved?' So they said, 'Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and you will be saved, you and your household.'" Acts 16:30-31 |
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(OP) User ID: 76803670 United States07/16/2020 07:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: How to determine the true Pentecost date and why it is a possible time of the rapture before the new world order begins To read later [link to www.thetorah.com (secure)] -Heed the warning or endure the mourning Favor ain't fair |
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