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The sacking of the great library of Alexandria

 
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First they emptied the library and put the scrolls onto ships. THEN they burned it down. The ships set sail for Italy. Everything is hidden at the Vatican.
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Now that is probably what happened. They want people to think it was all destroyed. People have hidden away all sorts of things when they knew destruction was near. Heck my relatives buried all sorts of things like silverware during the civil war so the troops wouldn’t get it. The people who worked at that library most likely did the same thing. They got those scrolls out of dodge.
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A priest in college told us that there are six levels of archives below the Vatican, and most ancient holdings there would never see sunlight.
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I really do want to believe that many of the lost works are preserved at the vatican. At least they are safe (if so).

If they are there, they should be reproduced for the world to consume. But we all know that vatican would never allow anything like that to happen.
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Many of these books are not lost but hidden in the Vatican's library.
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Who knows what wisdom was lost in such a barbaric act? The archives of Atlantas? 1/3 of Plato’s work, said to deal with mystical topics, gone forever.
List of lost works:
[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]
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Book of Bai Ze (simplified Chinese 白泽图; pinyin: Bái Zé Tú). A guide to the forms and habits of all 11,520 types of supernatural creatures in the world, and how to overcome their hauntings and attacks, as dictated by the mythical creature, Bai Ze to the Yellow Emperor in the 26th century BCE.

hmm. gee, who might want that book burned?? obviously the demons
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The Book of Thoth, a legendary manuscript alluded to in Egyptian literature believed to contain the secrets to comprehend the power of the gods and speech of animals.[6]



once again. it is obvious why the evil gods burned the library down.

humans were getting too smart to their ways
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Who knows what wisdom was lost in such a barbaric act? The archives of Atlantas? 1/3 of Plato’s work, said to deal with mystical topics, gone forever.
List of lost works:
[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]
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They are not gone.

You are just stock. You don't get access to such things.
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Official website of the Vatican Secret Archives (the word “secret” was recently changed to the more boring “Apostolic”):
[link to www.archivioapostolicovaticano.va]


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If I had to guess, I would say that that library was BURNED DOWN to HIDE that history. Not unlike how they are tearing down statues today to rewrite history for the next age to come.

That lost knowledge isn't entirely lost, some "group" got them out before the fire was lit and has passed them down through generations. I am guessing that same "group" is responsible for trying to erase our present history as well. No matter, The Most High is about to expose them and there WILL be a reckoning. And by "Most High", I do NOT mean Trump.
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Some great informantion was lost from writing but never from the spiritual void, and remember Cleopatra was also soulless beast of the earth and descendants lineage of Queen Nefertari is now Queen Elizabeth, and King Ramses is now Prince Philip.

C8 Q75
The father and son will be murdered together,
the leader within his pavilion. The mother at
Tours will have her belly swollen with a son,
a verdure chest with little pieces of paper.


P: That quatrain is quite confusing, and we are attempting translation.
D: Would it help if you focused on the mirror?
P: Actually Nostradamus has put down his pen. He is now sitting atthe table, holding his head in his hands, and trying to give us a verbal translation. That is one of the easiest methods for me. It's so obscure, so very difficult.
D: Do the best you can.
P: Well, the trunk seems to contain valid information. The pregnant mother seems to be pregnant with information also. The murder of the father and son simultaneously seems to be a hiding away of some kind of information, an occluding of some kind. I get very shadowy images. The father and son seem to represent information from two ages somehow. I see Nostradamus really concentrating, so I'm going to bequiet. (Pause) This is confusing. I see a Romanesque fellow like Marc Antony of Antony and Cleopatra, in a pavilion. When you say "chest with the little pieces of paper," I see hidden information. This seems distant. It seems very Roman. I see no pregnant woman. I just see this guy sitting there in an open pavilion with columns. He has on a white robe, and a laurel wreath on his head. He has much power.
D: Ask Nostradamus who that is symbolic of.
P: I keep wanting to say ... Nero. (Chuckle) Okay, this is what I am getting. This has to do with not allowing Christian information, not allowing some kind of messages. They've hidden away some kind of information. This is a Roman who is repressing and killing people. When I'm looking in the mirror, I just see this guy sitting there. I see the columns; I see the leaves on his head. And I see him immensely powerful and not smiling. He doesn't want some important information to get out that has to do with knowledge that would change people's attitudes.
D: Is it knowledge that would deal with our time?
P: That's a very interesting question, for this man was focused in his own time. He was only concerned with the safety of his crown, and whether he would continue to be king. However, from the way you phrased the question, yes, the information does continue through to our time. For, in fact, it was not all suppressed. Some of that information is incredibly valid and meaningful to us in this very moment.
D: Then you think this was repressed during the Roman times?
P: It was attempted. Much was, I must say. The murder of the father and son at the same time could even-although the time frames are different-refer to the burning of the libraries in Alexandria. There seems to be some big loss of ancient information. I don't know when the library at Alexandria was burnt. However, the father information was more ancient than the son information. But they both represent ancient information and both were stored in this library.
D: And the mother is also symbolic of information because she'spregnant.
P: Yes. However, I see no physical female with child. All I see is thatman sitting there. I only feel repression of information. Oh! Now I understand. It was attempted to be repressed and much of the ancient information was destroyed. More current information did come out and obviously we have it today. Those who had knowledge of these new beliefs were all pregnant with information. The symbolism of the impending birth, of the pregnant woman, is that the information will get out.
D: Then the verdure chest with little pieces of paper also refers to this information?
P: I think this is one of the actual, literal ways they tried to preserve some of the information. It was also put in jars and buried, and carvedon stones. There were different attempts to preserve this information for all generations to come. I would say, if we actually incorporated that information into our knowingness, it would be probably the most important information we could receive.
D: And it's been hidden away and suppressed since the time of the Romans.
P: The attempt of suppression. Some of it was. Gosh! I believe this is the library at Alexandria. I think they captured the information butthey didn't destroy it, which is really an exciting thing to think, because I thought everything in Alexandria burned. But it seems that out of a terrible thing they got some ancient information, but they did not destroy it. Nostradamus says this information still exists. He is saying that if it hasn't already been discovered within the last few years, it will be soon. It's eminent. You must know it existed; it continued to survive as a living entity of a storehouse of knowledge. It didn't disappear. People didn't break into it and burn up the scrolls for heat or cooking. It actually was on high enough ground so as not to be destroyed by any natural events, floods or anything else.
D: You mean where it is located now?
P: I believe the library at Alexandria, of which I speak, does not have existence on the Earth at this time. It's entirely possible that the Alexandrian library of which I speak had more than one part. It didn't have to be all in one building perhaps. I think with time, and of course, the ravishes of humans, it has been disassembled and destroyed.
D: Do you think it was taken somewhere else?
P: It is near. I mean, right over there. I see this hill. My initial thought about the library at Alexandria was that there had only been one library, and it was destroyed. I think some of the ruins still remain and can be visited right now if we went over there. And when you asked me if it were still there, I couldn't see any ruins. So that made me ask,"Where is it?" And then I saw it on a hill. That made me realize there was either more than one library or more than one part to the library. And the part I'm talking about, there are no visible remains, there areno ruins.
D: That way no one will know where it is unless they discover it later.
P: Well, they're not too interested in finding a place that doesn't contain anything anyway. This quatrain addresses the fact that back then the library withstood some heavy-duty nature events and lived. Then these people came who took some information out which would be considered bad, especially since they may have killed people to get the stuff. But because I asked, "What does that have to do with today?". Nostradamus is saying that information is getting ready to come out right now. So the benefit is that we're now going to hear information that is several thousands of years old. We wouldn't have known about it if they hadn't stolen it, taken it some where else and hidden it away.
D: But it will be found, or it will come to light?
P: Yes. And very shortly, I feel. Just like any minute. This interpretation was so difficult because the words are a trick. The quatrains take me into literal thought. It was good to look in the mirror where I saw that man.

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There is an old tale, probably not true, that when a Muslim invader sacked a similar large library of the ancient world (forget which one), he ordered all the books burnt. “If there are any that say things that differ from the Koran, they deserve to be burnt; if there are any that say the same, it is no loss for we already have the Koran.”
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Your talking about the Library of Alexandria. Caesar was the first to try and burn it as a military tactic, but the muslims when they conquered Egypt, destroyed everything.
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and continue to do so to this day
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I have gone on holiday for an expedition to Yucatan to the other remaining hall of records besides under "the paw". These great works are all preserved and more. Yes, technologically advanced non-terrestrials did visit and mix bred with humans. We are close to the Great Awakening where all will be revealed once we settle on another planet within our system. These magnificent galaxy travelers can live for tens of thousands of Earth years and travel space at 1/4 speed of light. Faster than light travel is not possible nor is traveling time backwards. Krishna was the last great leader of these beings. They live and will return to inspect the fruits of their seeding. We are fortunate to have been selected as offspring and not expendable life for colonization.
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First they emptied the library and put the scrolls onto ships. THEN they burned it down. The ships set sail for Italy. Everything is hidden at the Vatican.
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Knowledge is power, so I agree with your statement. Booty of war.
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heard that the ark was in the vatican too
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Who knows what wisdom was lost in such a barbaric act? The archives of Atlantas? 1/3 of Plato’s work, said to deal with mystical topics, gone forever.
List of lost works:
[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]
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First they emptied the library and put the scrolls onto ships. THEN they burned it down. The ships set sail for Italy. Everything is hidden at the Vatican.
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All knowledge can be recreated because it was tapped from the ether to begin with.
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Who knows what wisdom was lost in such a barbaric act? The archives of Atlantas? 1/3 of Plato’s work, said to deal with mystical topics, gone forever.
List of lost works:
[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]
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I don't mean to rain on your parade but as a historian specifically in Greco history I can just tell you that everything you think of Plato is misinformed

Besides philosophy he was also a writer. And I could say for certain that he loved to speak in allegories and tell stories

The story of Atlantis was an allegory about greek dominance over the known world.

They were able to fight off the mighty atlanteans so who can mess with the mighty Greeks

It has no basis in history and Plato did not believe it, it was a fictional story about Greek dominance
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The place that Plato described to a T was found in west Africa. It appears that some sort of meteor or object landed in Greenland and caused a massive tsunami.

This is not the video that I was searching for, but it does show the three rings.

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First they emptied the library and put the scrolls onto ships. THEN they burned it down. The ships set sail for Italy. Everything is hidden at the Vatican.
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If any of the scrolls survived, the Vatican, or private collections, are the most likely location.
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Absolutely! Nothing is lost, just hidden and kept for themselves (that's a whole other topic), the vast amount of knowledge acquired and held by the very few I believe surpasses anything from the past by leaps and bounds.
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I want to know WHY they are hiding it. How did they get to choose what we should know & not know.
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All knowledge can be recreated because it was tapped from the ether to begin with.
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If I could go back in time and undue one thing, this might be it as I've always imagined it held the remnants of Atlantis. hf

Also I bet it housed an ancient working model of the Antikythera mechanism, although they have already replicated and mathematically solved it. hf

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First they emptied the library and put the scrolls onto ships. THEN they burned it down. The ships set sail for Italy. Everything is hidden at the Vatican.
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This is exactly why the Vatican has such power over countries and politics! They hold the world's darkest and unbeknownst secrets. The Elite are holding back our next evolutionary phases . They do not want us to wake up, they don't want us to be intelligent. Most importantly, they don't want you to question only follow. Stay woke & Stay safe folks &#9889;
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Leonardo Da Vinci the great genius inventions also locked up in the Vatican library.

C3 Q94
For five hundred years more they
will take notice of him who was
the ornament of his age. Then
suddenly a great revelation will
be made which will make people of
that (same) century well pleased.


B: He says this has a double meaning. The major meaning he was wanting people to know is that the man being referred to here is the genius that has been previously mentioned. What he discovers and what he establishes will make positive and sweeping changes for mankind in general, and it will stand. Through the succeeding centuries people will grow up and live under the light of his discoveries and continue to develop themselves. Then, after the allotted time has passed, another discovery will be made that will be just as awe inspiring and sweeping as the genius' discovery. It will intermesh so well people will be able to burst free from all physical bounds and there will be no limit to their positive development. He says that is the major interpretation of this quatrain. Once again, showing how history will move in spirals, there was another man in the past, Leonardo da Vinci, that was considered a bright light of his time and well regarded in succeeding centuries. Some of the things this genius will discover will bring to light even more the greatness that was Leonardo da Vinci. He says it is most interesting how it all interrelates in this manner.
D: They say that Leonardo da Vinci did invent many things that were ahead of his time.
B: He says all of the most interesting and amazing of Leonardo da Vinci's discoveries and inventions had to be hidden or destroyed because of the Inquisition and the ignorance of the people around him.
D: Oh, he was having the same problem. We do have a lot of his papers and his notes that have come down to us.
B: He says there are a lot of them that have been locked away in the Vatican Library.
D: Does he know why they were considered controversial?
B: He says they weren't merely controversial, they were downright heretical.
D: What subjects did he deal with?'
B: Every subject conceivable. He says that's the way Leonardo da Vinci was. He could conceive everything. Due to da Vinci's writing about his own discoveries and making logical extrapolation based upon his inventions and discoveries, he was able to explain some of the happenings in the Bible as being due to man's technology and not due to miracles of God. And this was considered to be very heretical. It was lessening the glory of God. They didn't care for his interpretation of various prophets of the Old Testament such as Elijah and Ezekiel and some of the things written by Isaiah. Theirs were the more fantastical things that people had not been able to interpret. They just lumped it under the general category as being the glory of God. Leonardo would expound upon and show reasons why it was referring to things man could do. rather than just being the glory of God.

This may have been another reason for Nostradamus being so obscure in his writings. He has already seen what happened when someone wrote about these things and were not discreet about it. He already had an example of the consequences of writing things down in plain language.

D: Did they take these papers after da Vinci's death or while he was alive?
B: Both.
D: We have a lot of them that describe some of his inventions and different books oil anatomy that he wrote and things like that. It sounds like he was also a great philosopher.
B: Oh, yes.
D: But it has been so manly years you would think the Vatican would release some of these documents.
B: The Vatican would still not want to release a lot of them. But the majority of them are tucked away and gathering dust and mostly have been forgotten.
D: That's probably what happened to a lot of things down through history. I like to read hims the interpreter's translations from time to time because I like to see what he says.
B: Besides jumping up and down and pulling on his beard.
D: (Laugh) They have interpreted this quatrain as referring to Nostradamus. That he is this great man. They say "almost every interpreter of Nostradamus quatrains have used this one as a guarantee of the inspired nature of their works." They claim this gives them the authority, so to speak, to interpret.
B: He says that is a misuse of this quatrain. If you wanted to apply it in that manner then it would be particularly applicable to this case since this is a never-before used channel of communication with him. That should please other students of Nostradamus in your time period. But he says this is not what he had in mind.
D: I wondered about that. He has never spoken like this to anyone else? Then maybe it will impress upon people the importance of our translations of these quatrains if it's never been done before.

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And yes John The Baptist the Spirit of Elijah was in Mary Madgelene in the Last Supper whom Lord Jesus did cast out seven unclean spirits as it is also written in my disciples prophecies.

And you wondered why Leonardo Da Vinci painted a second portrait of the Last Supper in a house unknown to the Vatican?.

And not all my disciples know the secrets, the like of Peter the Swarthy [Cephas] who denied Lord Jesus thrice is now Pope Francis, and the sons of thunder that is John and James.

And after six days, Jesus took with him Peter [the Swarthy aka Cephas is now Pope Francis], and James, and John; and he led them separately to a lofty mountain alone; and he was transfigured before them.

And his vestments became radiant and exceedingly white like snow, with such a brilliance as no fuller on earth is able to achieve.

And there appeared to them Elijah with Moses; and they were speaking with Jesus.

And in response, Peter [Pope Francis] said to Jesus: “Master, it is good for us to be here. And so let us make three tabernacles, one for you, and one for Moses, and one for Elijah.”

For he did not know what he was saying. For they were overwhelmed by fear.

And there was a cloud overshadowing them. And a voice came from the cloud, saying: “This is my most beloved Son. Listen to him.”

And immediately, looking around, they no longer saw anyone, except Jesus alone with them.

And as they were descending from the mountain, he instructed them not to relate to anyone what they had seen, until after the Son of man will have risen again from the dead.

And they kept the word to themselves, arguing about what “after he will have risen from the dead” might mean.

And they questioned him, saying: “Then why do the Pharisees and the scribes say that Elijah must arrive first?”

And in response, he said to them: “Elijah, when he will arrive first, shall restore all things. And in the manner that it has been written about the Son of man, so must he suffer many things and be condemned.

But I say to you, that Elijah also has arrived, (and they have done to him whatever they wanted) just as it has been written about him.” - Jesus in Mark 9:1-12


And here I am back from the dead, again.

"Little children, yet a little while I [Elijah] am with you. Ye shall seek me: and as I said unto the [Zionist] J@ws, Whither I go, ye cannot come [into the kingdom of God with me];" - John 13:33

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atlantis destroyed itself

what humans do best when nudged the wrong direction

also coincides with the 12,000 year descent

we are now in the 12,000 ascent

but destruction will happen while the seed of creation is planted

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There is an old tale, probably not true, that when a Muslim invader sacked a similar large library of the ancient world (forget which one), he ordered all the books burnt. “If there are any that say things that differ from the Koran, they deserve to be burnt; if there are any that say the same, it is no loss for we already have the Koran.”
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Your talking about the Library of Alexandria. Caesar was the first to try and burn it as a military tactic, but the muslims when they conquered Egypt, destroyed everything.
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Wow sounds like Antifa!!!!
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Who knows what wisdom was lost in such a barbaric act? The archives of Atlantas? 1/3 of Plato’s work, said to deal with mystical topics, gone forever.
List of lost works:
[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]
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The old age was pagan and barbaric, and it for the few at the top...

Christians established schools and rights for all, women and children too...everyone learns how to read and thus can read the Bible...

Most of that "wisdom" you lament losing was leading people down rabbit holes, as it was inspired by supernatural agencies that do not want humans to live eternally...

This is all part of the spiritual war going on.
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Thanks Islam for destroying the intellectual archives for generations. You'd be hard pressed to find any free thinkers from the Middle East. Even less the further you go. There's a reason Alexander the Great stopped in Asia... And it was him who put an end to insurgency within that desert land. By slaying every man of fighting age. He should've gone further...

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It took the caliphate decades to burn the books. Islam has eradicated so much world history, it's no wonder its political al offspring so ialist ideologies carry on Islams tactics they've used for over 1,000 years.
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There is an old tale, probably not true, that when a Muslim invader sacked a similar large library of the ancient world (forget which one), he ordered all the books burnt. “If there are any that say things that differ from the Koran, they deserve to be burnt; if there are any that say the same, it is no loss for we already have the Koran.”
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Your talking about the Library of Alexandria. Caesar was the first to try and burn it as a military tactic, but the muslims when they conquered Egypt, destroyed everything.
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Wow sounds like Antifa!!!!
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And germany and Russia & others all over the world back through the ages.
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Re: The sacking of the great library of Alexandria
I read somewhere long ago that there was warning before hand. That many of the books, documents, scrolls, were taken somewhere secretive to preserve them.

BTW, the et's were the builders/architects of the pyramids. Locals were taught building trades, math, and how to use the et available technology that included anti-grav (see the choppers in hieroglyphs ), laser tech, modern machined stone cutting, and more to get the jobs done.
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makes sense.
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Re: The sacking of the great library of Alexandria
Other than the Vatican, there is at least one major, legendary stockpile of books and art and records from the medieval world and before that remains:

The Tomb of Genghis Khan!

Supposedly, he's buried with all of his loot. They likely used the army to divert a river over top of it after it was all buried in a giant water tight vault somewhere out on the steppes of Mongolia and/or near a mountain. If they used something like a salt mine, there should be plenty of stuff in reasonably good condition.

This collection would surely include many works which put to a lie later attempts to fabricate history by destroying documents/books and re-writing history. The ultimate time capsule!





GLP