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Codex Sinaiticus proven to be a Forgery by Constantine Simonides from Revelation 4:8

 
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Codex Sinaiticus proven to be a Forgery by Constantine Simonides from Revelation 4:8
So, finally got back to the house and had a chance to get some info uploaded. Here's a very brief overview just taking into account the forensic manuscript evidence that definitely points to Simonides being our boy behind the biggest forgery in text critical history.

Most modern Bible versions are squarely based upon this corrupt text that was produced in 1840 at Mt Athos. (Inform yourselves. If you think the NWO left the Bible alone, you are quite mistaken. It is the Bible they attacked most vehemently.

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Why such a grand hoax, you ask?

Because if the British library were to admit that it was duped by Tischendorf's theft of Saint Catherine's, it would cause the institution to lose all credibility forever. It would be the laughing stock of the world in text critical studies and paleography.

It is a such a monstrous hoax and forgery, that there really are not words sufficient to describe it.

on the surface, it looks like a 4th century hand.

Just a bit of forensic investigation beneath the surface blows up the entire narrative.

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How can you even begin to take this man seriously.

Look at the way he is dressed.

I'm pretty sure his elevator doesn't go to the top level.
Living has taught me one thing; nothing is certain...except salvation through Jesus Christ!
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How can you even begin to take this man seriously.

Look at the way he is dressed.

I'm pretty sure his elevator doesn't go to the top level.
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Oh, don't worry about that. That's just my Ravenclaw getup when I'm studying back at the house.

I'll upload me singing the new song in Revelation 5 in Greek because it would help everyone to learn it and get a feel for the rhythm and meter of the celestial liturgy, I think.
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So, I researched for days analyzing the rhythm and meter of the new ode in Revelation 5:9-10 from our various Greek sources and I think I've finally restored the words as John originally heard them. You'll notice that what modern text critics today believe to be the original text neither fits in rhythm or meter, but ours here does. (It helps if you can carry a beat if you're going into classical studies. Most critics are soulless. Pro tip.)

I whipped up a little tune to help us sing it on MuseScore and I think you'll find that this version actually works. You'll also notice that it is nearly exactly the same as our Textus Receptus behind the KJV. God bless to all my brothers and sisters.

I'm giving it out public domain, because, hey...why not? :-)



Axios ei labein to Biblion
Kai anoixai tas sphragidas autou
Hoti esphages kai egorasas hemas
to Theo hemon en to aimati sou
Ek pases phules kai glosses kai laou
Kai ethnous kai epoiesas hemas
to Theo hemon Basileis kai Hiereis
Kai Basileuousin epi tes ges


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Yes, my singing isn't so great. Hopefully, this will be taken up by a real chorus that can do the new song justice. I'm a Greek freak, not a meistersinger. :-)
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Looks like someone couldn't find a girlfriend.
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Looks like someone couldn't find a girlfriend.
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I did find her, it's just that she was 3000 years old and caught in a temporal flux. Sometimes that happens.
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So, finally got back to the house and had a chance to get some info uploaded. Here's a very brief overview just taking into account the forensic manuscript evidence that definitely points to Simonides being our boy behind the biggest forgery in text critical history.

Most modern Bible versions are squarely based upon this corrupt text that was produced in 1840 at Mt Athos. (Inform yourselves. If you think the NWO left the Bible alone, you are quite mistaken. It is the Bible they attacked most vehemently.


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Do you know why its called the living WORD ?
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So, finally got back to the house and had a chance to get some info uploaded. Here's a very brief overview just taking into account the forensic manuscript evidence that definitely points to Simonides being our boy behind the biggest forgery in text critical history.

Most modern Bible versions are squarely based upon this corrupt text that was produced in 1840 at Mt Athos. (Inform yourselves. If you think the NWO left the Bible alone, you are quite mistaken. It is the Bible they attacked most vehemently.


 Quoting: rev18_6


Do you know why its called the living WORD ?
 Quoting: plateaus


I'm not really sure as to the question, but I'm going to go out on a limb here and take a wild guess that it's because... it's living?
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Don't you hate when that happens? Paradox's can be such a pain.

Looks like someone couldn't find a girlfriend.
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I did find her, it's just that she was 3000 years old and caught in a temporal flux. Sometimes that happens.
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Here's another little Greek Bible tune I finally got corrected from 1 Timothy 3:16 and whipped up a tune for on the MuseScore. It's Paul's ode he sent over to Timothy to remind him to be strong. Probably a very early Christian hymn straight out of Jerusalem, or the very early Antiochian Syrian movement. The TR is pretty good, but there were a few words that got mixed up and some of the endings were dropped.

If you're a scribe, or a text critic, it really comes in handy if you have acute OCD, because this is paradise terrain for little pen corrections all over the place. Enjoy and blessings. Recreating Greek odes from 2000 years ago is like vacation. And, what we find, is that our ancient Christian brothers and sisters were quite the composers in the Spirit. I like to see them live and sing again. Sometimes I feel like they're right there with me and we're all singing together. Old Apostle Paul knew how to get his song on. :-)



homologoumenos mega estin
to tes eusebeias musterion
theos ephanerothe en sarki
edikaiothe en pneumatike
ophthe angelois, ekerukthe
en ethnesin, episteuthe
en kosmo, anelemphthe
en doxe.


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You'll remember that they are attempting to silence our song and put a mask on us, so let's make certain that we sing loud enough to blow the roof off the world.

Blessings.
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Just one more quick follow up on the profile of Simonides. What if we get our text critical Sherlock on and do a basic personality profile? Can we put a name with a document and do it with accuracy?

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Stay encouraged, Beloved. We know all lies will be exposed and that everything that has been done in darkness will be brought to light.

Babylon is collapsing in more than one arena. It is not simply in the political arena, but also in the academic. And you should rather rejoice because so many of those old lies, those malicious well received lies by academia and even in ivory tower theological circles are crumbling to dust.

As David, you may be the owl of wild now, and feel that all is declining shadow and ashes, but just wait a bit. The Creator has a few more tricks up his sleeve that eye has not seen, nor ear heard.



Psalm 102
6 Like pelican of wilderness,
The owl in desert, I did match;
7 And, sparrow-like, companionless,
On house tops, I did watch.
8 I all day long was made a harry,
Reproach'd by my malicious foes:
Madmen swore 'gainst me verily,
The men against me that arose.

9 For I had ashes eaten up,
To me as if they had been bread;
And with my drink I in my cup
Of bitter tears a mixture made.
10 Because thy wrath was not appeas'd,
And dreadful indignation:
Therefore it was that thou me rais'd,
And thou again didst cast me down.

11 My days were like a shade alway,
Which doth declining swiftly pass;
And I was withered away,
Much like unto the fading grass.
12 But thou, O Lord, shalt still endure,
From change and all mutation free,
And to all generations sure
Shall thy remembrance ever be.

13 Thou shalt arise, and mercy yet
Thou to mount Sion shalt extend:
Her time for favour which was set,
Lo, had it seemed to be at end.
14 Yet saints took pleasure in her stones,
Her very dust to them was dear.
15 Now heathen lands and kingly thrones
On earth thy glorious name shall fear.
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Here's another little Greek Bible tune I finally got corrected from 1 Timothy 3:16 and whipped up a tune for on the MuseScore. It's Paul's ode he sent over to Timothy to remind him to be strong. Probably a very early Christian hymn straight out of Jerusalem, or the very early Antiochian Syrian movement. The TR is pretty good, but there were a few words that got mixed up and some of the endings were dropped.

If you're a scribe, or a text critic, it really comes in handy if you have acute OCD, because this is paradise terrain for little pen corrections all over the place. Enjoy and blessings. Recreating Greek odes from 2000 years ago is like vacation. And, what we find, is that our ancient Christian brothers and sisters were quite the composers in the Spirit. I like to see them live and sing again. Sometimes I feel like they're right there with me and we're all singing together. Old Apostle Paul knew how to get his song on. :-)



homologoumenos mega estin
to tes eusebeias musterion
theos ephanerothe en sarki
edikaiothe en pneumatike
ophthe angelois, ekerukthe
en ethnesin, episteuthe
en kosmo, anelemphthe
en doxe.

 Quoting: rev18_6


Allow me to make one slight correction here. If you ask an average textual critic and paleographer today whether there is any textual evidence for any other reading in 1 Timothy 3:16 than 'pneumati', they will with one accord answer 'no'.

However, is that really true?

Well, it's almost true. Now, there is an older poetic form of pneumatike that was spelled pneumatie. Don't believe it? The variantes lectiones documents it. [link to imgur.com (secure)] Same number of syllables. I believe the original eta dropped off by scribal error late in the 3rd century. However, we still have the missing space in P133 that is inexplicable. I believe we can by the process elimination prove that the only possible reading in P133 was 'pneumatie', and this lends great credence to our restored text.

So, how does it read now?

homologoumenos mega estin
to tes eusebeias musterion
theos ephanerothe en sarki
edikaiothe en pneumatie
ophthe angelois, ekerukthe
en ethnesin, episteuthe
en kosmo, anelemphthe
en doxe.



And here is P133 that proves it.

[link to imgur.com (secure)]

Ok, so where is this variant spelling to be found in any classical Greek poetic text, you ask?

It is found in the Diosemeia of Greek poet Aratus (c. 310 BC – 240), who Paul quotes in Acts 17:28.

[link to imgur.com (secure)]

And now things get interesting, because if Paul had read the works of Aratus during his rabbinical training years in Tarsus, it may well be true that Paul himself penned this hymn.

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I keep waiting for James DeFranco to make an appearance.





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