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Anonymous Coward User ID: 79133587 Canada 07/13/2020 07:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They seem to be doing the same thing all over the world like they are getting their marching orders from someone. This is not about public health when you mandate it 4 months after the fact when numbers are going down in most places and it was never much of pandemic to begin with when you have to pad the death numbers in order to have the excuse to keep everyone locked down unnecessarily. |
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User ID: 56270897 United States 07/13/2020 07:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Mask up! Where is Monty Python when you need them. Proud to be UnV'd There is one constant in life: If you build something worth having, someone will try to take it or destroy it. Proud member of A Brotherhood Against Totalitarian Enactments, Americans Who Hate Aging, proud supporter of attractive women. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 79016557 Canada 07/13/2020 07:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ramping up in Canada too. July 18 in Quebec. CBC NB ran a pro mask propaganda piece today but the official positioning from the government website is we have to be in "red phase" before masks are mandatory. [link to www2.gnb.ca (secure)] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79016557 Canada 07/13/2020 08:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ramping up in Canada too. July 18 in Quebec. CBC NB ran a pro mask propaganda piece today but the official positioning from the government website is we have to be in "red phase" before masks are mandatory. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79016557 [link to www2.gnb.ca (secure)] It's up to the store. The store can require masks but the default assumption is you don't need a mask unless there's a sign. You need a mask for transit as well. |
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User ID: 73025873 United States 07/13/2020 08:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "Conclusion: Wearing masks will not reduce SARS-CoV-2. N95 masks protect health care workers, but are not recommended for source control transmission. Surgical masks are better than cloth but not very efficient at preventing emissions from infected patients. Cloth masks will be ineffective at preventing SARS-CoV-2 transmission, whether worn as source control or as personal protective equipment (PPE). Masks may confuse that message and give people a false sense of security." [link to aapsonline.org (secure)] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79133587 Canada 07/13/2020 08:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ramping up in Canada too. July 18 in Quebec. CBC NB ran a pro mask propaganda piece today but the official positioning from the government website is we have to be in "red phase" before masks are mandatory. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79016557 [link to www2.gnb.ca (secure)] It's up to the store. The store can require masks but the default assumption is you don't need a mask unless there's a sign. You need a mask for transit as well. Some municipalities are mandating that people wear masks in all public enclosed areas such as retail stores, grocery stores, gas stations, convenience stores etc. Toronto was the first to do it and now others have copycatted Toronto no matter if they have any covid-19 deaths or not. It's not about public health when you do it 4 months after the fact and you have no new cases in your area. |
Shamanik
(OP) User ID: 79144452 United Kingdom 07/13/2020 08:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ramping up in Canada too. July 18 in Quebec. CBC NB ran a pro mask propaganda piece today but the official positioning from the government website is we have to be in "red phase" before masks are mandatory. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79016557 [link to www2.gnb.ca (secure)] It's up to the store. The store can require masks but the default assumption is you don't need a mask unless there's a sign. You need a mask for transit as well. It’s been compulsory to wear one on public transport here for a week or so, again a £100 fine if you don’t. It’s not being enforced tho from what I have seen. Now you have to wear one in shops and supermarkets but yet you can go to the pub without one. It’s one huge joke. I wonder which member of our gov has huge shares in PPE companies. Thanks for the pine BTW whoever did it. Last Edited by Shamanik on 07/13/2020 08:18 PM Namaste Motherfucker. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79133587 Canada 07/13/2020 08:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "Conclusion: Wearing masks will not reduce SARS-CoV-2. Quoting: MISTER-BEE N95 masks protect health care workers, but are not recommended for source control transmission. Surgical masks are better than cloth but not very efficient at preventing emissions from infected patients. Cloth masks will be ineffective at preventing SARS-CoV-2 transmission, whether worn as source control or as personal protective equipment (PPE). Masks may confuse that message and give people a false sense of security." [link to aapsonline.org (secure)] Bend the knee slaves and wear your mask. We command it because we like to watch you all suffer during a heat wave not being able to breath in a hot suffocating mask! You won't want to ever go shopping again because you will have to wear a tortuous suffocating mask or you won't be allowed into buy food. It is social conditioning for the forced vaccination mark of the beast. |
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Re-Named- 777
User ID: 77763487 United Kingdom 07/13/2020 08:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's an f ing joke. I 'm really mad, i got an alert on my phone saying the numbers were down, then we are wearing the masks. Absolute shite, are they trying to kill the economy x Better to live for today, than wait for a day that never comes. |
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puzzlesphere
User ID: 79125111 Australia 07/13/2020 09:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Some face mask information: N95 - N (Not Waterproof, doesn't stop oil droplets), 95 (catches 95% of particulates over 0.3 microns in diameter) P100 - P (water proof, catches oil droplets), 100 (catches 99.9% of particulates over 0.3 microns in diameter) Corona viruses - Less than 0.15 microns An N95 mask will be catching only about 90% (misses 1 out of 10) of particles under 0.15 microns in size, and only when the mask is fresh, efficacy reduces over time. Unless a mask is certified for Work Activities, any face covering is reducing your oxygen intake to dangerous levels in minutes. N95 type masks are only supposed to be used for short periods, with non-intensive activity, with long periods of fresh air between uses to restore oxygen levels. *The body can recover from short periods of mask use. *Extended periods lead to reduced oxygen levels and increased CO2 levels. *Sustained periods of reduced oxygen leads to impaired cognitive function. *Continued sustained use, leading to sustained oxygen deprivation, can lead to permanent brain damage. This can make you feel lethargic and reduce high level brain activity. If you intend to do any physical activity (or just get hot sitting in the sun), you should wear a mask with sufficiently rated air-flow. A P100 mask with dual filters for instance, is comfortable to wear, provides cool air, good overall air-flow, is water-proof (moist breath), and is designed to use while doing physical labour. However, even P100 style masks shouldn't be worn for extended periods. At most they can be used for a normal day's work (8 hours in a 24 hour period) with regular breaks every hour to refresh oxygen levels. If you need to wear a mask longer, really you should wear a powered and ventilated full face mask that pumps filtered air into a full head covering, including your ear canals, maintaining oxygen levels Any other mask is essentially useless, and realistically dangerous for your average un-informed person to wear. People should be very careful wrapping their faces for extended periods in un-verified fabrics as it causes suffocation. I hope this information helps people make informed decisions about when to wear masks. Last Edited by puzzlesphere on 07/13/2020 09:09 PM The bigger the global population, the more solutions available to us all. |
Re-Named- 777
User ID: 77763487 United Kingdom 07/13/2020 09:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Some face mask information: Quoting: puzzlesphere N95 - N (Not Waterproof, doesn't stop oil droplets), 95 (catches 95% of particulates over 0.3 microns in diameter) P100 - P (water proof, catches oil droplets), 100 (catches 99.9% of particulates over 0.3 microns in diameter) Corona viruses - Less than 0.15 microns An N95 mask will be catching only about 90% (misses 1 out of 10) of particles under 0.15 microns in size, and only when the mask is fresh, efficacy reduces over time. Unless a mask is certified for Work Activities, any face covering is reducing your oxygen intake to dangerous levels in minutes. N95 type masks are only supposed to be used for short periods, with non-intensive activity, with long periods of fresh air between uses to restore oxygen levels. *The body can recover from short periods of mask use. *Extended periods lead to reduced oxygen levels and increased CO2 levels. *Sustained periods of reduced oxygen leads to impaired cognitive function. *Continued sustained use, leading to sustained oxygen deprivation, can lead to permanent brain damage. This can make you feel lethargic and and reduce high level brain activity. If you intend to do any physical activity (or just get hot sitting in the sun), you should wear a mask with sufficiently rated air-flow. A P100 mask with dual filters for instance, is comfortable to wear, provides cool air, good overall air-flow, is water-proof (moist breath), and is designed to use while doing physical labour. However, even P100 style masks shouldn't be worn for extended periods. At most they can be used for a normal day's work (8 hours in a 24 hour period) with regular breaks every hour to refresh oxygen levels. If you need t wear a mask longer, really you should wear a powered and ventilated full face mask that pumps filtered air into a full head covering, including your ear canals, maintaining oxygen levels Any other mask is essentially useless, and realistically dangerous for your average person to wear. People should be very careful wrapping their faces for extended periods in un-certified fabrics as it causes suffocation. I hope this information helps people make informed decisions about when to wear masks. We could do with sticking together on this. Iv'e never marched or protested in my life, but i would for this it's digusting Better to live for today, than wait for a day that never comes. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 38616436 United Kingdom 07/13/2020 09:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Wearing a face covering in shops and supermarkets in England is to become mandatory from 24 July. Quoting: Shamanik Those who fail to comply with the new rules will face a fine of up to £100, the government is to announce. The move will bring England into line with Scotland and other major European nations like Spain, Italy and Germany. Since mid-May, the public have been advised to wear coverings in enclosed public spaces, where they may encounter people they would not usually meet. It has been compulsory on public transport since 15 June. Health Secretary Matt Hancock is expected to set out the new guidance on face coverings on Tuesday. They are designed to minimise the spread of coronavirus and also encourage people to return to the shops safely. [link to www.bbc.co.uk (secure)] But yet I can go the local pub and not have to wear one. Bizarre logic! Say Medical amd ignore any numpty jobsworth |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 38616436 United Kingdom 07/13/2020 09:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Wearing a face covering in shops and supermarkets in England is to become mandatory from 24 July. Quoting: Shamanik Those who fail to comply with the new rules will face a fine of up to £100, the government is to announce. The move will bring England into line with Scotland and other major European nations like Spain, Italy and Germany. Since mid-May, the public have been advised to wear coverings in enclosed public spaces, where they may encounter people they would not usually meet. It has been compulsory on public transport since 15 June. Health Secretary Matt Hancock is expected to set out the new guidance on face coverings on Tuesday. They are designed to minimise the spread of coronavirus and also encourage people to return to the shops safely. [link to www.bbc.co.uk (secure)] But yet I can go the local pub and not have to wear one. Bizarre logic! Weaken them before ramping up fyvejee Theme is I can't breathe Oxygen depletion |
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User ID: 39607259 United States 07/13/2020 09:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's so hard to remember to wear my mask. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75756784 Also, what happens if you drop your mask how do you buy a new one if you can't go into a store? If you do not own a mask, you may not go to the store to buy one, unless you are wearing a mask...thank you for calling the center for disease control I never forgive and I never forget I am a licensed firearm holder. I will, under protection of law, use lethal force if attacked. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78628021 United Kingdom 07/13/2020 09:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Oh great! /sarc Now the home grocery deliveries prices will skyrocket within days from that taking effect. People won't want to go themselves to the stores because of being forced to wear a mask but they also won't want to pay for the hefty delivery fees either. Stock up on as much as you can now people. Things are just getting stranger and darker from this ppint onwards |
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