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Anonymous Coward User ID: 79150532 Mexico 07/15/2020 08:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | it is a universal right to protect yourself and what's yours. this is always the first right aggresors try to deprive their victims of, . .then they remove the right to complain about it. this is precisely what we are experiencing in u.s.a. and everywhere, . . who is the perpetrator? when in the course of human events it becomes necessary for a people, . .etc. great words, . .time has come to exercise them. now or never more again. |
Catalyst4Thought
User ID: 79145243 United States 07/15/2020 08:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | “When you look at St. Louis with two people that came out — they were going to be beat up badly, if they were lucky — okay — if they were lucky. They were going to be beat up badly and the house was going to be totally ransacked and probably burned down like they tried to burn down churches. And these people were standing there, never used it, and they were legal, the weapons, and now I understand somebody local — they want to prosecute these people. It’s a disgrace.” Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77174498 But, but, according to some shills here Trump authorized the DOJ to use the red flag laws to take our guns./Sar Glad to see he's saying something about it. They didn't break any laws. They need some training but they didn't do anything wrong by protecting themselves and their property. "the purpose of war is not to die for your country but to make the other guy die for his." - Patton "What happens if the parachute doesn't open?" "Bring it back and we will give you one that works." "Dark humor is like food, not everybody gets it." |
Allen Funt
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QCluminati
User ID: 78083688 Canada 07/15/2020 08:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The problem with what they did was pointing the firearms at the protesters.. Quoting: ^TrInItY^ Every responsible firearm owner knows you CANNOT point your weapon at someone as a form of intimidation. Had they stood there with their weapons slung or holstered and not pointed at the protesters the DA would have nothing on them. wouldn't they just need to provide evidence that the protesters had bad intentions? I don't see any difference between this or ol'lady shooting her 44 magnum at a burglar is her house. Unvaxxed because fuck you |
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Lynx7 User ID: 20903011 United States 07/15/2020 08:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The problem with what they did was pointing the firearms at the protesters.. Quoting: ^TrInItY^ Every responsible firearm owner knows you CANNOT point your weapon at someone as a form of intimidation. Had they stood there with their weapons slung or holstered and not pointed at the protesters the DA would have nothing on them. Really? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 75270154 United States 07/15/2020 08:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The problem with what they did was pointing the firearms at the protesters.. Quoting: ^TrInItY^ Every responsible firearm owner knows you CANNOT point your weapon at someone as a form of intimidation. Had they stood there with their weapons slung or holstered and not pointed at the protesters the DA would have nothing on them. True. But the couple were libtards without proper training |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 7279210 United States 07/15/2020 08:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The problem with what they did was pointing the firearms at the protesters.. Quoting: ^TrInItY^ Every responsible firearm owner knows you CANNOT point your weapon at someone as a form of intimidation. Had they stood there with their weapons slung or holstered and not pointed at the protesters the DA would have nothing on them. In a public place no. In your home to criminals tresspassing on your property threatening violence at you, sure as fuck it's your right |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76909969 United States 07/15/2020 09:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The problem with what they did was pointing the firearms at the protesters.. Quoting: ^TrInItY^ Every responsible firearm owner knows you CANNOT point your weapon at someone as a form of intimidation. Had they stood there with their weapons slung or holstered and not pointed at the protesters the DA would have nothing on them. Yes, and these laws are retarded. Merely taking it out without pointing it is considered brandishing..... so let's not allow people to judge the situation ... force them to either submit or kill someone. The problem is not with what the couple did, it's with the laws that make it illegal for a gun owner to make the call on whether to force deescalation or kill. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76809044 United States 07/15/2020 09:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The problem with what they did was pointing the firearms at the protesters.. Quoting: ^TrInItY^ Every responsible firearm owner knows you CANNOT point your weapon at someone as a form of intimidation. Had they stood there with their weapons slung or holstered and not pointed at the protesters the DA would have nothing on them. True. But the couple were libtards without proper training bs, point and shoot. bingo. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 77846415 United States 07/15/2020 09:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The problem with what they did was pointing the firearms at the protesters.. Quoting: ^TrInItY^ Every responsible firearm owner knows you CANNOT point your weapon at someone as a form of intimidation. Had they stood there with their weapons slung or holstered and not pointed at the protesters the DA would have nothing on them. Illegal to point guns at trespassers? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77585423 United States 07/15/2020 09:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79041085 United Kingdom 07/15/2020 09:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The problem with what they did was pointing the firearms at the protesters.. Quoting: ^TrInItY^ Every responsible firearm owner knows you CANNOT point your weapon at someone as a form of intimidation. Had they stood there with their weapons slung or holstered and not pointed at the protesters the DA would have nothing on them. Technically he didnt, he stood with his gun ready but parallel to them. She was pointing her's so may be charged. Their best bet is to show just cause for their behaviour, recent trend of antifa and BLM rampaging mobs. When the latest mob came through the side gate onto their private property. Reasonable fear of attack etc from a legal perspective which led to their actions. Ultimately its bread and circuses by the DA, cheap head line grabbing against the 'wicked rich people'. |
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GonadTheBallbarian
User ID: 76882965 United States 07/15/2020 09:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The problem with what they did was pointing the firearms at the protesters.. Quoting: ^TrInItY^ Every responsible firearm owner knows you CANNOT point your weapon at someone as a form of intimidation. Had they stood there with their weapons slung or holstered and not pointed at the protesters the DA would have nothing on them. wouldn't they just need to provide evidence that the protesters had bad intentions? I don't see any difference between this or ol'lady shooting her 44 magnum at a burglar is her house. You are correct. Plus they came onto private property the second they broke the gate, so there is a legal argument to be made that they feared for their life based solely on that. Also, from what I saw, the wife was the only one who pointed a weapon at anyone. I'd rather be real and rejected than fake and accepted. Individualism is the logical conclusion of rational political/social opinions. Leftism is the absence of any. |
Xeven
User ID: 75948321 United States 07/15/2020 09:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here in Florida the people invading their property would get shot and nothing would be done about it other than holes being dug to bury them. Last Edited by Xeven on 07/15/2020 09:05 AM I reserve the right to declare my comments and posts as satire. Nothing I post should be considered or interpreted as advocacy for illegal activity. My comments are designed to inspire critical political thinking. I only mean half of what I say and only say half of what I mean. |
GonadTheBallbarian
User ID: 76882965 United States 07/15/2020 09:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This dude said the cops didn't want to take his weapons, but they were just following orders. He respects them. I'd rather be real and rejected than fake and accepted. Individualism is the logical conclusion of rational political/social opinions. Leftism is the absence of any. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 71236932 United States 07/15/2020 09:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The problem with what they did was pointing the firearms at the protesters.. Quoting: ^TrInItY^ Every responsible firearm owner knows you CANNOT point your weapon at someone as a form of intimidation. Had they stood there with their weapons slung or holstered and not pointed at the protesters the DA would have nothing on them. In a public place no. In your home to criminals tresspassing on your property threatening violence at you, sure as fuck it's your right That's my understanding as well, and I am in Missouri. We have some of the most aggressive firearm protection laws in this state, including castle law, constitutional carry, etc. I understand one should not brandish a weapon. However, this is a bit different as their private gate was smashed and individuals came on to their private property, threatening them. Legally, I would think that gate being smashed was akin to your front door being bashed in and intruders entering your abode with force. |
Ignatius J
User ID: 74204591 United States 07/15/2020 09:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "I am at the moment writing a lengthy indictment against our century. When my brain begins to reel from my literary labors, I make an occasional cheese dip." |
PureSnow
User ID: 79148014 United States 07/15/2020 09:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The problem with what they did was pointing the firearms at the protesters.. Quoting: ^TrInItY^ Every responsible firearm owner knows you CANNOT point your weapon at someone as a form of intimidation. Had they stood there with their weapons slung or holstered and not pointed at the protesters the DA would have nothing on them. CASTLE DOCTRINE - you ABSOLUTELY can use deadly force in Missouri when invaders are on your property. PureSnow |
Xeven
User ID: 75948321 United States 07/15/2020 09:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here in Florida the people invading their property would get shot and nothing would be done about it. Quoting: Xeven That's not true at all. You have no legal right to shoot a trespasser in Florida. If they are armed and they were and I feared for my life I sure do. Ask Zimmerman. I reserve the right to declare my comments and posts as satire. Nothing I post should be considered or interpreted as advocacy for illegal activity. My comments are designed to inspire critical political thinking. I only mean half of what I say and only say half of what I mean. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 78960647 Serbia 07/15/2020 09:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The problem with what they did was pointing the firearms at the protesters.. Quoting: ^TrInItY^ Every responsible firearm owner knows you CANNOT point your weapon at someone as a form of intimidation. Had they stood there with their weapons slung or holstered and not pointed at the protesters the DA would have nothing on them. Normally I'd agree but not this time, they broke into private property. Owner can do whatever he needs to get rid of them if he felt threatened. I hope he takes it to a jury. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 73141749 United States 07/15/2020 09:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | “When you look at St. Louis with two people that came out — they were going to be beat up badly, if they were lucky — okay — if they were lucky. They were going to be beat up badly and the house was going to be totally ransacked and probably burned down like they tried to burn down churches. And these people were standing there, never used it, and they were legal, the weapons, and now I understand somebody local — they want to prosecute these people. It’s a disgrace.” Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77174498 5*! |
diverdan01
User ID: 39516942 United States 07/15/2020 09:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | “When you look at St. Louis with two people that came out — they were going to be beat up badly, if they were lucky — okay — if they were lucky. They were going to be beat up badly and the house was going to be totally ransacked and probably burned down like they tried to burn down churches. And these people were standing there, never used it, and they were legal, the weapons, and now I understand somebody local — they want to prosecute these people. It’s a disgrace.” Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77174498 good..they should have started shooting |
Xeven
User ID: 75948321 United States 07/15/2020 09:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | well, they were going to shoot them, but they changed their mind. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76809044 Exactly, went from fear to not sure and back and forth. I reserve the right to declare my comments and posts as satire. Nothing I post should be considered or interpreted as advocacy for illegal activity. My comments are designed to inspire critical political thinking. I only mean half of what I say and only say half of what I mean. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78960647 Serbia 07/15/2020 09:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The problem with what they did was pointing the firearms at the protesters.. Quoting: ^TrInItY^ Every responsible firearm owner knows you CANNOT point your weapon at someone as a form of intimidation. Had they stood there with their weapons slung or holstered and not pointed at the protesters the DA would have nothing on them. CASTLE DOCTRINE - you ABSOLUTELY can use deadly force in Missouri when invaders are on your property. They were not on their property. They were on the street in front of their house. Yea they were. They broke the gate to their PRIVATE street. They owned it. Go look at the pictures on twitter you can see where the mob broke down the gate that was clearly marked PRIVATE property to get up to the house. |
PureSnow
User ID: 79148014 United States 07/15/2020 09:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The problem with what they did was pointing the firearms at the protesters.. Quoting: ^TrInItY^ Every responsible firearm owner knows you CANNOT point your weapon at someone as a form of intimidation. Had they stood there with their weapons slung or holstered and not pointed at the protesters the DA would have nothing on them. CASTLE DOCTRINE - you ABSOLUTELY can use deadly force in Missouri when invaders are on your property. They were not on their property. They were on the street in front of their house. Incorrect. They damaged property on the couple's private property. Not sure how to embed images.. [link to bloximages.newyork1.vip.townnews.com (secure)] PureSnow |
GonadTheBallbarian
User ID: 76882965 United States 07/15/2020 09:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My understanding of Castle Doctrine in most states is that it only applies to WITHIN your four walls, and inside of your vehicle. At least thats what the CCW instructor told us. I have always wondered if this is accurate, but there is such differing info online (imagine that) I'd rather be real and rejected than fake and accepted. Individualism is the logical conclusion of rational political/social opinions. Leftism is the absence of any. |