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Anonymous Coward User ID: 79147842 United States 07/15/2020 08:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Arlington is Virginia soil and the home of Robert E lee before the North confiscated it. How about we bury Warren at sea so she can be forgotten? Quoting: FlashBuzzkill Arlington IS part of the United States, and the confederacy was a treasonous rebellion fomented by a few rich fuckers in the south. Hundreds of thousands of stupid bastards died fighting that dumb war, half of them fighting for their own POVERTY. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79147842 United States 07/15/2020 08:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I guess she didn't learn from the guy who got the statue dropped on his head when he was helping to desecrate what was essentially a grave stone. I guess she thinks she's okay because she has been desecrating the graves of American Indians all of these years by just pretending to be one in order to get to a position where she could betray the tribes, once again. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79151068 None of you fuckers seemed to mind desecrating our sacred places And it foretold your future. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76920316 United States 07/15/2020 08:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | hmmm.... no words.. Quoting: BigNuts [link to conservative-daily.com (secure)] Less than 50%: "If passed as-is, this amendment would require that the federal government desecrate the graves of 482 Confederate soldiers buried in Arlington National Cemetery. The soldiers are buried in a circle around a massive, 106-year-old monument commemorating the Confederate soldiers who died in the Civil War. Every President since Teddy Roosevelt has laid a wreath at this monument. Yes, that includes Barack H. Obama. He paid his respects to the Confederate dead buried in Arlington back in 2009. Warren's amendment would require that the memorial be removed from the grounds of Arlington. It is impossible to do this without disturbing the grave sites around the monument… But it actually gets worse. Elizabeth Warren's amendment is so poorly written that while it gives an exception for gravestones, it does not exempt the graves themselves. Since being buried in Arlington is considered an honor, a literal reading of Warren's bill would require these Civil War soldiers to be exhumed and moved off the premises. Just think about how small of a person someone would have to be to write an amendment in 2020 that could force the exhumation of 482 Civil War soldiers because they disagree with the cause they fought for… Even in a best case scenario, the graves would get to stay, but Arlington wouldn't be able to advertise where they're located. No signage… no mention in the maps… no helpful directions from staff… Anyone who has ever been to Arlington looking for a specific grave knows it is next to impossible to do without help and directions. So best case, the Confederates get to stay buried, but no one would be allowed to know where they are…" The tradition is to allow enemy soldiers to be buried on our soil and their graves marked, but not to honor them in any way. This includes the south. I dont think anyone is suggesting exhuming them either. The problem is not the memorials so much as the attempt to make treason seem honorable by placing statues or obelisks to honor them. This is just wrong, it's no different than putting a statue of Mao Se Dong in central park. Let's just dig up up the graves. It is general Lee house after all. Dummy I just dont think we should honor the confederacy. It's not just the slavery issue because the emancipation proclamation didnt even happen until late in the war, but if you knew the truth you would realize over 95% of the whites in the south were dirt poor during the confederacy and many not as well off as slaves. Their descendants have evolved into white supremacists who blame blacks for their being loosers. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 78107266 United States 07/15/2020 08:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | hmmm.... no words.. Quoting: BigNuts [link to conservative-daily.com (secure)] Less than 50%: "If passed as-is, this amendment would require that the federal government desecrate the graves of 482 Confederate soldiers buried in Arlington National Cemetery. The soldiers are buried in a circle around a massive, 106-year-old monument commemorating the Confederate soldiers who died in the Civil War. Every President since Teddy Roosevelt has laid a wreath at this monument. Yes, that includes Barack H. Obama. He paid his respects to the Confederate dead buried in Arlington back in 2009. Warren's amendment would require that the memorial be removed from the grounds of Arlington. It is impossible to do this without disturbing the grave sites around the monument… But it actually gets worse. Elizabeth Warren's amendment is so poorly written that while it gives an exception for gravestones, it does not exempt the graves themselves. Since being buried in Arlington is considered an honor, a literal reading of Warren's bill would require these Civil War soldiers to be exhumed and moved off the premises. Just think about how small of a person someone would have to be to write an amendment in 2020 that could force the exhumation of 482 Civil War soldiers because they disagree with the cause they fought for… Even in a best case scenario, the graves would get to stay, but Arlington wouldn't be able to advertise where they're located. No signage… no mention in the maps… no helpful directions from staff… Anyone who has ever been to Arlington looking for a specific grave knows it is next to impossible to do without help and directions. So best case, the Confederates get to stay buried, but no one would be allowed to know where they are…" The tradition is to allow enemy soldiers to be buried on our soil and their graves marked, but not to honor them in any way. This includes the south. I dont think anyone is suggesting exhuming them either. The problem is not the memorials so much as the attempt to make treason seem honorable by placing statues or obelisks to honor them. This is just wrong, it's no different than putting a statue of Mao Se Dong in central park. Can I ask you a question, when Democrat president Andrew Johnson pardoned all confederate veterans and returned their US citizenship, did that still mean they were enemies of the United States? No, but I would say anyone that died fighting the Union WAS an enemy when they died, who died a dishonorable death committing treason. Democrats thought otherwise and passed laws in 1929 and 1958 honoring Confederates. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79147842 United States 07/15/2020 08:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79147842 The tradition is to allow enemy soldiers to be buried on our soil and their graves marked, but not to honor them in any way. This includes the south. I dont think anyone is suggesting exhuming them either. The problem is not the memorials so much as the attempt to make treason seem honorable by placing statues or obelisks to honor them. This is just wrong, it's no different than putting a statue of Mao Se Dong in central park. Let's just dig up up the graves. It is general Lee house after all. Dummy I just dont think we should honor the confederacy. It's not just the slavery issue because the emancipation proclamation didnt even happen until late in the war, but if you knew the truth you would realize over 95% of the whites in the south were dirt poor during the confederacy and many not as well off as slaves. Their descendants have evolved into white supremacists who blame blacks for their being loosers. I never new a single white supremacists that wasn't a shit for brains low brow uneducated low rent asshole |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79147842 United States 07/15/2020 08:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79147842 The tradition is to allow enemy soldiers to be buried on our soil and their graves marked, but not to honor them in any way. This includes the south. I dont think anyone is suggesting exhuming them either. The problem is not the memorials so much as the attempt to make treason seem honorable by placing statues or obelisks to honor them. This is just wrong, it's no different than putting a statue of Mao Se Dong in central park. Can I ask you a question, when Democrat president Andrew Johnson pardoned all confederate veterans and returned their US citizenship, did that still mean they were enemies of the United States? No, but I would say anyone that died fighting the Union WAS an enemy when they died, who died a dishonorable death committing treason. Democrats thought otherwise and passed laws in 1929 and 1958 honoring Confederates. I'm not a democrat, shit for brains In fact I dont partake in your bi polar politics. Only an idiot would |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76920316 United States 07/15/2020 08:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Arlington is Virginia soil and the home of Robert E lee before the North confiscated it. How about we bury Warren at sea so she can be forgotten? Quoting: FlashBuzzkill Arlington IS part of the United States, and the confederacy was a treasonous rebellion fomented by a few rich fuckers in the south. Hundreds of thousands of stupid bastards died fighting that dumb war, half of them fighting for their own POVERTY. No more treasonous than what the colonists and George Washington and Thomas Jefferson did. And you are an idiot. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 46156487 United States 07/15/2020 08:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | in revenge you should remove all the american indian gravestones! Quoting: mr jenzie that will teach her They've been digging up my ancestors for 250 years. This country is built on our graves. And the land is cursed to you. You will never know peace or happiness here, you have been at war continuously since 1776 How about the tribes you slaughtered for their land? |
Malu nli
User ID: 13473921 United States 07/15/2020 08:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | in revenge you should remove all the american indian gravestones! Quoting: mr jenzie that will teach her They've been digging up my ancestors for 250 years. This country is built on our graves. And the land is cursed to you. You will never know peace or happiness here, you have been at war continuously since 1776 Condescending little prick. We won because you assholes were so busy killing each other , you couldn’t stop our superiority. Now cowboy the fuck up and quit your bitching Pocahontas |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79147842 United States 07/15/2020 08:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Arlington is Virginia soil and the home of Robert E lee before the North confiscated it. How about we bury Warren at sea so she can be forgotten? Quoting: FlashBuzzkill Arlington IS part of the United States, and the confederacy was a treasonous rebellion fomented by a few rich fuckers in the south. Hundreds of thousands of stupid bastards died fighting that dumb war, half of them fighting for their own POVERTY. No more treasonous than what the colonists and George Washington and Thomas Jefferson did. And you are an idiot. Your whole history is one of extreme dishonor. Murdering the innocent to take what is theirs. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79147842 United States 07/15/2020 08:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | in revenge you should remove all the american indian gravestones! Quoting: mr jenzie that will teach her They've been digging up my ancestors for 250 years. This country is built on our graves. And the land is cursed to you. You will never know peace or happiness here, you have been at war continuously since 1776 Condescending little prick. We won because you assholes were so busy killing each other , you couldn’t stop our superiority. Now cowboy the fuck up and quit your bitching Pocahontas You "won" because you brought disease with you and killed 95% of us with it, and killed all the game, and made agreements you did not keep. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79122897 United States 07/15/2020 08:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | in revenge you should remove all the american indian gravestones! Quoting: mr jenzie that will teach her They've been digging up my ancestors for 250 years. This country is built on our graves. And the land is cursed to you. You will never know peace or happiness here, you have been at war continuously since 1776 How about the tribes you slaughtered for their land? That doesn't fit the narrative. Shh |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 79147842 United States 07/15/2020 08:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | in revenge you should remove all the american indian gravestones! Quoting: mr jenzie that will teach her They've been digging up my ancestors for 250 years. This country is built on our graves. And the land is cursed to you. You will never know peace or happiness here, you have been at war continuously since 1776 How about the tribes you slaughtered for their land? That doesn't fit the narrative. Shh Tell us all about the "tribes I slaughtered for their land", shit for brains. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 76920316 United States 07/15/2020 09:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Arlington is Virginia soil and the home of Robert E lee before the North confiscated it. How about we bury Warren at sea so she can be forgotten? Quoting: FlashBuzzkill Arlington IS part of the United States, and the confederacy was a treasonous rebellion fomented by a few rich fuckers in the south. Hundreds of thousands of stupid bastards died fighting that dumb war, half of them fighting for their own POVERTY. No more treasonous than what the colonists and George Washington and Thomas Jefferson did. And you are an idiot. Your whole history is one of extreme dishonor. Murdering the innocent to take what is theirs. Yes, much like one tribe did to another, for 1,000s of years. There was never any honor. Your Hallmark greeting card version of life never existed. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78298045 United States 07/15/2020 09:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just my 2 cents. |
++Richardson++
User ID: 76607211 United States 07/15/2020 09:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Civil War is part of our country's history. The war ended and the country was brought back together. To do this would completely violate the spirit of that reunion. Elizabeth Warren is a lying traitor. Someone please arrest her and send her to Gitmo. Surely, she's done something worthy of that. "Peace in our time? All it took was everybody about to die." “The way I see it, there’s only three kinds of people in this world. Bad ones, ones you follow, and ones you need to protect.” - Amos Burton |
Bush Master
User ID: 74432164 United States 07/15/2020 09:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm not sure what this thread is about but if you move on Confederate graves you will pay a price. We do not play with anyone regardless of race when you fuck with the graves of our dead. Never have never will. God bless |
Malu nli
User ID: 13473921 United States 07/15/2020 09:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Arlington is Virginia soil and the home of Robert E lee before the North confiscated it. How about we bury Warren at sea so she can be forgotten? Quoting: FlashBuzzkill Arlington IS part of the United States, and the confederacy was a treasonous rebellion fomented by a few rich fuckers in the south. Hundreds of thousands of stupid bastards died fighting that dumb war, half of them fighting for their own POVERTY. No more treasonous than what the colonists and George Washington and Thomas Jefferson did. And you are an idiot. Your whole history is one of extreme dishonor. Murdering the innocent to take what is theirs. You fucking pussy. That’s how the world has turned for thousands of years. What a little bitch Just because the minority,whites, kicked everyone’s ass. It’s not our fault god loves us more |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79147842 United States 07/15/2020 09:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79147842 Arlington IS part of the United States, and the confederacy was a treasonous rebellion fomented by a few rich fuckers in the south. Hundreds of thousands of stupid bastards died fighting that dumb war, half of them fighting for their own POVERTY. No more treasonous than what the colonists and George Washington and Thomas Jefferson did. And you are an idiot. Your whole history is one of extreme dishonor. Murdering the innocent to take what is theirs. Yes, much like one tribe did to another, for 1,000s of years. There was never any honor. Your Hallmark greeting card version of life never existed. You know nothing of our history, shit for brains. You dont even know your own. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78298045 United States 07/15/2020 09:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well, supposedly, that cemetery has a lot of bodies of children buried underneath. Could it be that Warren and whoever else is pushing this, is actually on Trump's side and wants the graves dug up so they can find the evidence? The timing of this seems so strange, as it's at the same time as Ghislane getting arrested, and #WayfairGate being exposed. I just have a feeling this all might be part of the plan to continue to bust open in the public the real truths about the world. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78298045 Just my 2 cents. And Flynn is free, and "he knows where the bodies are buried". That's why they went after him so extremely hard. They wanted to shut him down so he can't expose anything. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 46156487 United States 07/15/2020 09:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Arlington is Virginia soil and the home of Robert E lee before the North confiscated it. How about we bury Warren at sea so she can be forgotten? Quoting: FlashBuzzkill Arlington IS part of the United States, and the confederacy was a treasonous rebellion fomented by a few rich fuckers in the south. Hundreds of thousands of stupid bastards died fighting that dumb war, half of them fighting for their own POVERTY. No more treasonous than what the colonists and George Washington and Thomas Jefferson did. And you are an idiot. Your whole history is one of extreme dishonor. Murdering the innocent to take what is theirs. If I remember correctly, the Comanche took the Black Hills area from the Kiowa, and the Lakota took it from the Comanche. You may correct me if I'm wrong. Of course no one killed anyone in those wars. They arm wrestled for it. |
Bush Master
User ID: 74432164 United States 07/15/2020 09:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Let's just say it happend once. Not pretty. |
BigNuts
(OP) User ID: 78071531 United States 07/15/2020 09:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | hmmm.... no words.. Quoting: BigNuts [link to conservative-daily.com (secure)] Less than 50%: "If passed as-is, this amendment would require that the federal government desecrate the graves of 482 Confederate soldiers buried in Arlington National Cemetery. The soldiers are buried in a circle around a massive, 106-year-old monument commemorating the Confederate soldiers who died in the Civil War. Every President since Teddy Roosevelt has laid a wreath at this monument. Yes, that includes Barack H. Obama. He paid his respects to the Confederate dead buried in Arlington back in 2009. Warren's amendment would require that the memorial be removed from the grounds of Arlington. It is impossible to do this without disturbing the grave sites around the monument… But it actually gets worse. Elizabeth Warren's amendment is so poorly written that while it gives an exception for gravestones, it does not exempt the graves themselves. Since being buried in Arlington is considered an honor, a literal reading of Warren's bill would require these Civil War soldiers to be exhumed and moved off the premises. Just think about how small of a person someone would have to be to write an amendment in 2020 that could force the exhumation of 482 Civil War soldiers because they disagree with the cause they fought for… Even in a best case scenario, the graves would get to stay, but Arlington wouldn't be able to advertise where they're located. No signage… no mention in the maps… no helpful directions from staff… Anyone who has ever been to Arlington looking for a specific grave knows it is next to impossible to do without help and directions. So best case, the Confederates get to stay buried, but no one would be allowed to know where they are…" The tradition is to allow enemy soldiers to be buried on our soil and their graves marked, but not to honor them in any way. This includes the south. I dont think anyone is suggesting exhuming them either. The problem is not the memorials so much as the attempt to make treason seem honorable by placing statues or obelisks to honor them. This is just wrong, it's no different than putting a statue of Mao Se Dong in central park. Let's just dig up up the graves. It is general Lee house after all. Dummy I just dont think we should honor the confederacy. It's not just the slavery issue because the emancipation proclamation didnt even happen until late in the war, but if you knew the truth you would realize over 95% of the whites in the south were dirt poor during the confederacy and many not as well off as slaves. Their descendants have evolved into white supremacists who blame blacks for their being loosers. You're wrong. |
++Richardson++
User ID: 76607211 United States 07/15/2020 09:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well, supposedly, that cemetery has a lot of bodies of children buried underneath. Could it be that Warren and whoever else is pushing this, is actually on Trump's side and wants the graves dug up so they can find the evidence? The timing of this seems so strange, as it's at the same time as Ghislane getting arrested, and #WayfairGate being exposed. I just have a feeling this all might be part of the plan to continue to bust open in the public the real truths about the world. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78298045 Just my 2 cents. Interesting thought, but Elizabeth Warren has proven herself to be a liar. She's full of it, willing to follow any road that gets her more popularity, whether that's lying about her background, or wanting to desecrate the graves of Americans. F her and the Indian she claims to have ridden in on. "Peace in our time? All it took was everybody about to die." “The way I see it, there’s only three kinds of people in this world. Bad ones, ones you follow, and ones you need to protect.” - Amos Burton |