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What a nasty, petty, pathetically useless pandering duncecap halfwit she is... smh.
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And those are her good points.
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But Donny the Dunce is better

THAT is YOUR problem

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Less than 50%:
"If passed as-is, this amendment would require that the federal government desecrate the graves of 482 Confederate soldiers buried in Arlington National Cemetery. The soldiers are buried in a circle around a massive, 106-year-old monument commemorating the Confederate soldiers who died in the Civil War. Every President since Teddy Roosevelt has laid a wreath at this monument. Yes, that includes Barack H. Obama. He paid his respects to the Confederate dead buried in Arlington back in 2009.

Warren's amendment would require that the memorial be removed from the grounds of Arlington. It is impossible to do this without disturbing the grave sites around the monument…

But it actually gets worse. Elizabeth Warren's amendment is so poorly written that while it gives an exception for gravestones, it does not exempt the graves themselves. Since being buried in Arlington is considered an honor, a literal reading of Warren's bill would require these Civil War soldiers to be exhumed and moved off the premises. Just think about how small of a person someone would have to be to write an amendment in 2020 that could force the exhumation of 482 Civil War soldiers because they disagree with the cause they fought for…

Even in a best case scenario, the graves would get to stay, but Arlington wouldn't be able to advertise where they're located. No signage… no mention in the maps… no helpful directions from staff… Anyone who has ever been to Arlington looking for a specific grave knows it is next to impossible to do without help and directions. So best case, the Confederates get to stay buried, but no one would be allowed to know where they are…"

 Quoting: BigNuts


The tradition is to allow enemy soldiers to be buried on our soil and their graves marked, but not to honor them in any way. This includes the south. I dont think anyone is suggesting exhuming them either.


The problem is not the memorials so much as the attempt to make treason seem honorable by placing statues or obelisks to honor them. This is just wrong, it's no different than putting a statue of Mao Se Dong in central park.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79147842


The South did not start the war, asshole, the Federal Government did, without any authority to do so.

The Republic union was VOLUNTARY, it was not a requirement, the Federal Government broke the contract (Constitutional agreement with the States).

This is why they want to change our history, to cement the idea that the Federal Government is god and the Government is the power in this land, it is not and will not be the truth. The people are the power, not the Federal Government.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71408469


The only thing the civil war really means to me is that for 5 years you fuckers were too busy killing each other to kill us.

I speak from an "american" perspective which is not mine when I condemn the CSA as traitors. If they'd won the war for confederate independence we'd probably have been able to hold you fuckers off, too.
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Stop being a cry baby. You couldn't hold it and you lost it. Same as every war in history. You are owed nothing.
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Quite fitting to whom? A white supremacist psychopath that likes to twist a knife driven in our backs?
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There you went and did it. You outed yourself as a democrat hack. You know, the guys whose strongest urge is to label someone they haven't even seen a "white supremacist." The psychopath part was a clever addition to your ad hominem.
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The tradition is to allow enemy soldiers to be buried on our soil and their graves marked, but not to honor them in any way. This includes the south. I dont think anyone is suggesting exhuming them either.


The problem is not the memorials so much as the attempt to make treason seem honorable by placing statues or obelisks to honor them. This is just wrong, it's no different than putting a statue of Mao Se Dong in central park.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79147842


The South did not start the war, asshole, the Federal Government did, without any authority to do so.

The Republic union was VOLUNTARY, it was not a requirement, the Federal Government broke the contract (Constitutional agreement with the States).

This is why they want to change our history, to cement the idea that the Federal Government is god and the Government is the power in this land, it is not and will not be the truth. The people are the power, not the Federal Government.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71408469


Question: how does any for the lack of a better term "state" join the Union?

Extra Bonus question: wouldn't the legal means for secession the same basic process in reverse?
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The started circumventing the US Constitution before the fucking ink was dry on it. It IS and ALWAYS HAS BEEN a huge lie.
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The being the democrats.
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Less than 50%:
"If passed as-is, this amendment would require that the federal government desecrate the graves of 482 Confederate soldiers buried in Arlington National Cemetery. The soldiers are buried in a circle around a massive, 106-year-old monument commemorating the Confederate soldiers who died in the Civil War. Every President since Teddy Roosevelt has laid a wreath at this monument. Yes, that includes Barack H. Obama. He paid his respects to the Confederate dead buried in Arlington back in 2009.

Warren's amendment would require that the memorial be removed from the grounds of Arlington. It is impossible to do this without disturbing the grave sites around the monument…

But it actually gets worse. Elizabeth Warren's amendment is so poorly written that while it gives an exception for gravestones, it does not exempt the graves themselves. Since being buried in Arlington is considered an honor, a literal reading of Warren's bill would require these Civil War soldiers to be exhumed and moved off the premises. Just think about how small of a person someone would have to be to write an amendment in 2020 that could force the exhumation of 482 Civil War soldiers because they disagree with the cause they fought for…

Even in a best case scenario, the graves would get to stay, but Arlington wouldn't be able to advertise where they're located. No signage… no mention in the maps… no helpful directions from staff… Anyone who has ever been to Arlington looking for a specific grave knows it is next to impossible to do without help and directions. So best case, the Confederates get to stay buried, but no one would be allowed to know where they are…"

 Quoting: BigNuts


The tradition is to allow enemy soldiers to be buried on our soil and their graves marked, but not to honor them in any way. This includes the south. I dont think anyone is suggesting exhuming them either.


The problem is not the memorials so much as the attempt to make treason seem honorable by placing statues or obelisks to honor them. This is just wrong, it's no different than putting a statue of Mao Se Dong in central park.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79147842


The South did not start the war, asshole, the Federal Government did, without any authority to do so.

The Republic union was VOLUNTARY, it was not a requirement, the Federal Government broke the contract (Constitutional agreement with the States).

This is why they want to change our history, to cement the idea that the Federal Government is god and the Government is the power in this land, it is not and will not be the truth. The people are the power, not the Federal Government.
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hesright
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Actually I agree with him in principal , but you have to admit the south was the enemy OF THIS PRESENT COUNTRY at one time and their soldiers committed treason against it. You cant expect the people who are part of it to tolerate people many of them hold to be a celebration of institutionalized racial supremacy.

I do not doubt the Constitutional right to secession, either, the Lakotah Republic did it many years ago.
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AND THIS WILL REALLY HELP THE INNER CITIES AND GETTING THE CHILDREN BACK TO SCHOOL, SCHOOL LUNCH PROGRAMS, NEW COMPUTERS, SPORTS EQUIPMENT AND HEALTHCARE
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The tradition is to allow enemy soldiers to be buried on our soil and their graves marked, but not to honor them in any way. This includes the south. I dont think anyone is suggesting exhuming them either.


The problem is not the memorials so much as the attempt to make treason seem honorable by placing statues or obelisks to honor them. This is just wrong, it's no different than putting a statue of Mao Se Dong in central park.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79147842


The South did not start the war, asshole, the Federal Government did, without any authority to do so.

The Republic union was VOLUNTARY, it was not a requirement, the Federal Government broke the contract (Constitutional agreement with the States).

This is why they want to change our history, to cement the idea that the Federal Government is god and the Government is the power in this land, it is not and will not be the truth. The people are the power, not the Federal Government.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71408469


The only thing the civil war really means to me is that for 5 years you fuckers were too busy killing each other to kill us.

I speak from an "american" perspective which is not mine when I condemn the CSA as traitors. If they'd won the war for confederate independence we'd probably have been able to hold you fuckers off, too.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79147842


Stop being a cry baby. You couldn't hold it and you lost it. Same as every war in history. You are owed nothing.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76920316

Correct, we are owed nothing

But we owe you something, dont we?

BTW the Black Hills belong to the Lakotah nation BY YOUR LAW, Ratified by the Senate, signed by the President, Upheld in the US Supreme court

Are you REALLY conservative?
Give us our land back and prove it. Otherwise STFU up poser.
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Statues weren't enough for them. Now they are literally going after the dead. Pathetic.
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What a nasty, petty, pathetically useless pandering duncecap halfwit she is... smh.
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Quarterwit tops
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Arlington is Virginia soil and the home of Robert E lee before the North confiscated it. How about we bury Warren at sea so she can be forgotten?
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Arlington IS part of the United States, and the confederacy was a treasonous rebellion fomented by a few rich fuckers in the south. Hundreds of thousands of stupid bastards died fighting that dumb war, half of them fighting for their own POVERTY.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79147842


Yeah, well. That's a common neo-Marxist position taught in many universities.

Looks like we'll fight another civil war to keep neo-Marxist from running the country.

I say burn all the neo-Marxists and dump their ashes in the ocean. Commies shouldn't be allowed to desecrate American soil.
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The vast majority of whites were extremely oppressed by free labor of slavery

There was NO middle class in the south. You were either rich, poor or a slave.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79147842


Human slavery was economically nonviable once the steam engine was invented. "Free labor." Hardly free.

In New Orleans they dug the New Basin Canal with Irish immigrant labor in malaria infested swamps because black slaves were too expensive to lose to disease. The Irish were paid a dollar/day. And generally 5 or more died every day from disease and accidents.


Slaves cost money, you had to fed, house and clothe slaves; had to pay foremen to keep them from rebelling.

A tractor can do the work of twenty slaves. That's why slavery was on its way out, even without a fighting a civil war.
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The tradition is to allow enemy soldiers to be buried on our soil and their graves marked, but not to honor them in any way. This includes the south. I dont think anyone is suggesting exhuming them either.


The problem is not the memorials so much as the attempt to make treason seem honorable by placing statues or obelisks to honor them. This is just wrong, it's no different than putting a statue of Mao Se Dong in central park.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79147842


The South did not start the war, asshole, the Federal Government did, without any authority to do so.

The Republic union was VOLUNTARY, it was not a requirement, the Federal Government broke the contract (Constitutional agreement with the States).

This is why they want to change our history, to cement the idea that the Federal Government is god and the Government is the power in this land, it is not and will not be the truth. The people are the power, not the Federal Government.
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hesright
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Actually I agree with him in principal , but you have to admit the south was the enemy OF THIS PRESENT COUNTRY at one time and their soldiers committed treason against it. You cant expect the people who are part of it to tolerate people many of them hold to be a celebration of institutionalized racial supremacy.

I do not doubt the Constitutional right to secession, either, the Lakotah Republic did it many years ago.
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The Indians were enemies of this present country.
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Arlington IS part of the United States, and the confederacy was a treasonous rebellion fomented by a few rich fuckers in the south. Hundreds of thousands of stupid bastards died fighting that dumb war, half of them fighting for their own POVERTY.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79147842


Yeah, well. That's a common neo-Marxist position taught in many universities.

Looks like we'll fight another civil war to keep neo-Marxist from running the country.

I say burn all the neo-Marxists and dump their ashes in the ocean. Commies shouldn't be allowed to desecrate American soil.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78206162


The vast majority of whites were extremely oppressed by free labor of slavery

There was NO middle class in the south. You were either rich, poor or a slave.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79147842


Human slavery was economically nonviable once the steam engine was invented. "Free labor." Hardly free.

In New Orleans they dug the New Basin Canal with Irish immigrant labor in malaria infested swamps because black slaves were too expensive to lose to disease. The Irish were paid a dollar/day. And generally 5 or more died every day from disease and accidents.


Slaves cost money, you had to fed, house and clothe slaves; had to pay foremen to keep them from rebelling.

A tractor can do the work of twenty slaves. That's why slavery was on its way out, even without a fighting a civil war.
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SO what you're saying was an Irishman was worth less than a nigra


cruisewuflu


They tried to make slaves out of us but we kept slitting our masters throats

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Less than 50%:
"If passed as-is, this amendment would require that the federal government desecrate the graves of 482 Confederate soldiers buried in Arlington National Cemetery. The soldiers are buried in a circle around a massive, 106-year-old monument commemorating the Confederate soldiers who died in the Civil War. Every President since Teddy Roosevelt has laid a wreath at this monument. Yes, that includes Barack H. Obama. He paid his respects to the Confederate dead buried in Arlington back in 2009.

Warren's amendment would require that the memorial be removed from the grounds of Arlington. It is impossible to do this without disturbing the grave sites around the monument…

But it actually gets worse. Elizabeth Warren's amendment is so poorly written that while it gives an exception for gravestones, it does not exempt the graves themselves. Since being buried in Arlington is considered an honor, a literal reading of Warren's bill would require these Civil War soldiers to be exhumed and moved off the premises. Just think about how small of a person someone would have to be to write an amendment in 2020 that could force the exhumation of 482 Civil War soldiers because they disagree with the cause they fought for…

Even in a best case scenario, the graves would get to stay, but Arlington wouldn't be able to advertise where they're located. No signage… no mention in the maps… no helpful directions from staff… Anyone who has ever been to Arlington looking for a specific grave knows it is next to impossible to do without help and directions. So best case, the Confederates get to stay buried, but no one would be allowed to know where they are…"

 Quoting: BigNuts


The tradition is to allow enemy soldiers to be buried on our soil and their graves marked, but not to honor them in any way. This includes the south. I dont think anyone is suggesting exhuming them either.


The problem is not the memorials so much as the attempt to make treason seem honorable by placing statues or obelisks to honor them. This is just wrong, it's no different than putting a statue of Mao Se Dong in central park.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79147842


LOL, comparing soldiers fighting for their state with one of the top 5 mass murderers of all time is quite the false equivalence.

Stop trying to view the past through the lens of today. People of that time were much more loyal to their state than the fed govt.

They were all given a choice, betray country or betray state. They knew if they betrayed their state, they could never set foot there again. That was a big deal, one that most in this country can not understand. Your state was your family, your home, your identity.

Yes, they were traitors. After the war was over, the decision was made (for the sake of brevity) not to treat them as such, for the sake of the nation.

It's completely conceivable that had the fed govt executed a large number of Confederates, we would have been right back in another civil war in 10-20 years.

Because our country doesn't work like others, that genocide the losers and their sympathizers, cover it all over, and carry on with the regime.
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In a word, American exceptionalism ... marxists and globalists are honourless pond scum
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The South did not start the war, asshole, the Federal Government did, without any authority to do so.

The Republic union was VOLUNTARY, it was not a requirement, the Federal Government broke the contract (Constitutional agreement with the States).

This is why they want to change our history, to cement the idea that the Federal Government is god and the Government is the power in this land, it is not and will not be the truth. The people are the power, not the Federal Government.
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hesright
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Actually I agree with him in principal , but you have to admit the south was the enemy OF THIS PRESENT COUNTRY at one time and their soldiers committed treason against it. You cant expect the people who are part of it to tolerate people many of them hold to be a celebration of institutionalized racial supremacy.

I do not doubt the Constitutional right to secession, either, the Lakotah Republic did it many years ago.
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The Indians were enemies of this present country.
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We still are.

Pine ridge is still listed as prisoner of war camp 344 by the department of defense.

The poorest county in the country.

Because they killed a J wish general and Freemason General and wiped out their troops in numerous battles.
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I'm a Yankee through and through and I had ancestors killed in the civil war. But this shit is beyond stupid. Not every northerner was pro abolition and not every southerner was pro slavery. Even if that was true it (and of course it isn't) it was a different time than it is now. Knock the stupid shit off and quit reopening old wounds. Let the men rest in peace.
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hesright
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76920316

Actually I agree with him in principal , but you have to admit the south was the enemy OF THIS PRESENT COUNTRY at one time and their soldiers committed treason against it. You cant expect the people who are part of it to tolerate people many of them hold to be a celebration of institutionalized racial supremacy.

I do not doubt the Constitutional right to secession, either, the Lakotah Republic did it many years ago.
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The Indians were enemies of this present country.
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You have a lot of enemies, dont you?

Tell me about your friends around the world

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Less than 50%:
"If passed as-is, this amendment would require that the federal government desecrate the graves of 482 Confederate soldiers buried in Arlington National Cemetery. The soldiers are buried in a circle around a massive, 106-year-old monument commemorating the Confederate soldiers who died in the Civil War. Every President since Teddy Roosevelt has laid a wreath at this monument. Yes, that includes Barack H. Obama. He paid his respects to the Confederate dead buried in Arlington back in 2009.

Warren's amendment would require that the memorial be removed from the grounds of Arlington. It is impossible to do this without disturbing the grave sites around the monument…

But it actually gets worse. Elizabeth Warren's amendment is so poorly written that while it gives an exception for gravestones, it does not exempt the graves themselves. Since being buried in Arlington is considered an honor, a literal reading of Warren's bill would require these Civil War soldiers to be exhumed and moved off the premises. Just think about how small of a person someone would have to be to write an amendment in 2020 that could force the exhumation of 482 Civil War soldiers because they disagree with the cause they fought for…

Even in a best case scenario, the graves would get to stay, but Arlington wouldn't be able to advertise where they're located. No signage… no mention in the maps… no helpful directions from staff… Anyone who has ever been to Arlington looking for a specific grave knows it is next to impossible to do without help and directions. So best case, the Confederates get to stay buried, but no one would be allowed to know where they are…"

 Quoting: BigNuts


The tradition is to allow enemy soldiers to be buried on our soil and their graves marked, but not to honor them in any way. This includes the south. I dont think anyone is suggesting exhuming them either.


The problem is not the memorials so much as the attempt to make treason seem honorable by placing statues or obelisks to honor them. This is just wrong, it's no different than putting a statue of Mao Se Dong in central park.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79147842


WTF are you talking about? Lmfao you know that most of the states willingly joined the United with the caveat they could leave whenever for any reason right?

So them leaving is treason or is treason stopping them from leaving?

Certainly a grey area but "treason" seems a bit ridiculous in that context.
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I'm a Yankee through and through and I had ancestors killed in the civil war. But this shit is beyond stupid. Not every northerner was pro abolition and not every southerner was pro slavery. Even if that was true it (and of course it isn't) it was a different time than it is now. Knock the stupid shit off and quit reopening old wounds. Let the men rest in peace.
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I best if they had to do it over again most of them would take tell the white plantation owners to fight for their own economic prosperity at their expense.

Like I said, it was no fun being white in the south.

Unless you had money you were less than a nigra.
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Less than 50%:
"If passed as-is, this amendment would require that the federal government desecrate the graves of 482 Confederate soldiers buried in Arlington National Cemetery. The soldiers are buried in a circle around a massive, 106-year-old monument commemorating the Confederate soldiers who died in the Civil War. Every President since Teddy Roosevelt has laid a wreath at this monument. Yes, that includes Barack H. Obama. He paid his respects to the Confederate dead buried in Arlington back in 2009.

Warren's amendment would require that the memorial be removed from the grounds of Arlington. It is impossible to do this without disturbing the grave sites around the monument…

But it actually gets worse. Elizabeth Warren's amendment is so poorly written that while it gives an exception for gravestones, it does not exempt the graves themselves. Since being buried in Arlington is considered an honor, a literal reading of Warren's bill would require these Civil War soldiers to be exhumed and moved off the premises. Just think about how small of a person someone would have to be to write an amendment in 2020 that could force the exhumation of 482 Civil War soldiers because they disagree with the cause they fought for…

Even in a best case scenario, the graves would get to stay, but Arlington wouldn't be able to advertise where they're located. No signage… no mention in the maps… no helpful directions from staff… Anyone who has ever been to Arlington looking for a specific grave knows it is next to impossible to do without help and directions. So best case, the Confederates get to stay buried, but no one would be allowed to know where they are…"

 Quoting: BigNuts


The tradition is to allow enemy soldiers to be buried on our soil and their graves marked, but not to honor them in any way. This includes the south. I dont think anyone is suggesting exhuming them either.


The problem is not the memorials so much as the attempt to make treason seem honorable by placing statues or obelisks to honor them. This is just wrong, it's no different than putting a statue of Mao Se Dong in central park.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79147842


WTF are you talking about? Lmfao you know that most of the states willingly joined the United with the caveat they could leave whenever for any reason right?

So them leaving is treason or is treason stopping them from leaving?

Certainly a grey area but "treason" seems a bit ridiculous in that context.
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Yeah, I agree with you

But 90% of americans wont

They see the confederacy as an attempt to keep slavery an institution, and many southern leaders admitted it was including Lee himself.
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If you're from the south and you honor the confederacy you should thank Crazy Horse for killing Custer

Custer killed a lot of southerners, even butchered civilians and children.

That was his style
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These people are evil
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These people are evil
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I have news for you, there is a lot of evil in the white race and always has been.

You are the only race that kills people you do not hate who have done nothing to you just to take what is theirs. NO OTHER RACE does this.
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I'm a Yankee through and through and I had ancestors killed in the civil war. But this shit is beyond stupid. Not every northerner was pro abolition and not every southerner was pro slavery. Even if that was true it (and of course it isn't) it was a different time than it is now. Knock the stupid shit off and quit reopening old wounds. Let the men rest in peace.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74222351


I best if they had to do it over again most of them would take tell the white plantation owners to fight for their own economic prosperity at their expense.

Like I said, it was no fun being white in the south.

Unless you had money you were less than a nigra.
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Fun? Yeah, Americans worked hard on their own land, raised their own food, went to bed with the chickens, got up before sunrise, made their own music and entertainment and went to church on Sunday. What do you call, "fun."?

And nearly every other person in the world would have traded places with them for the simple fact Americans were free, armed and not hungry and not being persecuted for religious and political reasons.
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These people are evil
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I have news for you, there is a lot of evil in the white race and always has been.

You are the only race that kills people you do not hate who have done nothing to you just to take what is theirs. NO OTHER RACE does this.
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Yeah. Well I'm white. Deal with it.

If you got the balls.
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These people are evil
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I have news for you, there is a lot of evil in the white race and always has been.

You are the only race that kills people you do not hate who have done nothing to you just to take what is theirs. NO OTHER RACE does this.
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Yeah. Well I'm white. Deal with it.

If you got the balls.
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You're J wish, too

And it is your tribe that corrupted the whites with your satanic beliefs
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I'm a Yankee through and through and I had ancestors killed in the civil war. But this shit is beyond stupid. Not every northerner was pro abolition and not every southerner was pro slavery. Even if that was true it (and of course it isn't) it was a different time than it is now. Knock the stupid shit off and quit reopening old wounds. Let the men rest in peace.
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I best if they had to do it over again most of them would take tell the white plantation owners to fight for their own economic prosperity at their expense.

Like I said, it was no fun being white in the south.

Unless you had money you were less than a nigra.
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Fun? Yeah, Americans worked hard on their own land, raised their own food, went to bed with the chickens, got up before sunrise, made their own music and entertainment and went to church on Sunday. What do you call, "fun."?

And nearly every other person in the world would have traded places with them for the simple fact Americans were free, armed and not hungry and not being persecuted for religious and political reasons.
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Good point, Success is happiness , freedom and independence.

How do you think you can improve on how my people lived before the whites came?
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There are no words to describe my disgust of Elizabeth Warren, will write my Senator to censor the BITCH !!!
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There are no words to describe my disgust of Elizabeth Warren, will write my Senator to censor the BITCH !!!
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She'll call you a racist 'cause you know she's Indian

But then so is every southern redneck that gets a few beers in him. They're all Cherokee

I dont know why they pick on the poor Cherokee.
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hmmm.... no words..


[link to conservative-daily.com (secure)]
Less than 50%:
"If passed as-is, this amendment would require that the federal government desecrate the graves of 482 Confederate soldiers buried in Arlington National Cemetery. The soldiers are buried in a circle around a massive, 106-year-old monument commemorating the Confederate soldiers who died in the Civil War. Every President since Teddy Roosevelt has laid a wreath at this monument. Yes, that includes Barack H. Obama. He paid his respects to the Confederate dead buried in Arlington back in 2009.

Warren's amendment would require that the memorial be removed from the grounds of Arlington. It is impossible to do this without disturbing the grave sites around the monument…

But it actually gets worse. Elizabeth Warren's amendment is so poorly written that while it gives an exception for gravestones, it does not exempt the graves themselves. Since being buried in Arlington is considered an honor, a literal reading of Warren's bill would require these Civil War soldiers to be exhumed and moved off the premises. Just think about how small of a person someone would have to be to write an amendment in 2020 that could force the exhumation of 482 Civil War soldiers because they disagree with the cause they fought for…

Even in a best case scenario, the graves would get to stay, but Arlington wouldn't be able to advertise where they're located. No signage… no mention in the maps… no helpful directions from staff… Anyone who has ever been to Arlington looking for a specific grave knows it is next to impossible to do without help and directions. So best case, the Confederates get to stay buried, but no one would be allowed to know where they are…"

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The tradition is to allow enemy soldiers to be buried on our soil and their graves marked, but not to honor them in any way. This includes the south. I dont think anyone is suggesting exhuming them either.


The problem is not the memorials so much as the attempt to make treason seem honorable by placing statues or obelisks to honor them. This is just wrong, it's no different than putting a statue of Mao Se Dong in central park.
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WTF are you talking about? Lmfao you know that most of the states willingly joined the United with the caveat they could leave whenever for any reason right?

So them leaving is treason or is treason stopping them from leaving?

Certainly a grey area but "treason" seems a bit ridiculous in that context.
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Yeah, I agree with you

But 90% of americans wont

They see the confederacy as an attempt to keep slavery an institution, and many southern leaders admitted it was including Lee himself.
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What the confederacy was fighting was the beginnings of the New World Order, central bank internationalism and all the communists machinations that latter manifested in the 20th century.

People with a brain know what we have been fighting, and are still fighting. Confused people end up supporting the prison planet because they buy into Marxist oppression horse shit.
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How about leaving all monuments and graves alone and focus on something important.

Dumb bitch Warren doesn’t seem aware that the country is going to hell in a hand basket.





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