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Publication: Uncovered DC - [link to uncoverdc.com (secure)]

Author: Celia Farber - [link to uncoverdc.com (secure)]

Cited Sources: Kary B Mullis - Inventor of the PCR Test - the one currently (almost exclusively) being used to confirm Positive or Negative CoV tests (as well as HIV), even though that was NEVER the intent.


Article: The Corona Simulation Machine: Why the Inventor of The “Corona Test” Would Have Warned Us Not To Use It To Detect A Virus

Snippet: Scientists are doing an awful lot of damage to the world in the name of helping it. I don’t mind attacking my own fraternity because I am ashamed of it.” –Kary Mullis, Inventor of Polymerase Chain Reaction

What do we mean when we say somebody has ‘tested positive’ for the Corona Virus? The answer would astound you. But getting this “answer” is like getting to a very rare mushroom that only grows above 200 feet on a Sequoia tree in the forbidden forest.

I say that for dramatic effect, but also because I wound up, against all odds, finding it...

... We’ve been hijacked by our technologies, but left illiterate about what they actually mean. In this case, I am in the rare position of having known, spent time with, and interviewed the inventor of the method used in the presently available Covid-19 tests, which is called PCR, (Polymerase Chain Reaction.)

His name was Kary B. Mullis, and he was one of the warmest, funniest, most eclectic-minded people I ever met, in addition to being a staunch critic of HIV “science,” and an unlikely Nobel Laureate, i.e. a “genius.”

One time, in 1994, when I called to talk to him about how PCR was being weaponized to “prove,” almost a decade after it was asserted, that HIV caused AIDS, he actually came to tears.

The people who have taken all your freedoms away in recent weeks, they’re social engineers, politicians, globalist thought leaders, bankers, WHO fanatics, and the like. Their army is composed of “mainstream media,” which is now literally a round-the-clock perfect propaganda machine for the Gates-led Pandemic Reich...

Link to full article: [link to uncoverdc.com (secure)]

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The last post above is worth the read. When the actual inventor of the predominant test being used to club governors, mayors and citizens into “compliance” excoriates those using said test for anything but what it was intended, it might be worth raising his voice to those that should know.
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Publication: New England Journal of Medicine - [link to en.m.wikipedia.org (secure)]

Authors: Michael Klompas, M.D., M.P.H., Charles A. Morris, M.D., M.P.H., Julia Sinclair, M.B.A., Madelyn Pearson, D.N.P., R.N.

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Sinclair - [link to www.brighamandwomens.org (secure)]

Pearson - [link to www.brighamandwomens.org (secure)]


Cited Sources: See above.


Article: Universal Masking in Hospitals in the Covid-19 Era

Snippet: As the SARS-CoV-2 pandemic continues to explode, hospital systems are scrambling to intensify their measures for protecting patients and health care workers from the virus. An increasing number of frontline providers are wondering whether this effort should include universal use of masks by all health care workers. Universal masking is already standard practice in Hong Kong, Singapore, and other parts of Asia and has recently been adopted by a handful of U.S. hospitals.
We know that wearing a mask outside health care facilities offers little, if any, protection from infection. Public health authorities define a significant exposure to Covid-19 as face-to-face contact within 6 feet with a patient with symptomatic Covid-19 that is sustained for at least a few minutes (and some say more than 10 minutes or even 30 minutes). The chance of catching Covid-19 from a passing interaction in a public space is therefore minimal. In many cases, the desire for widespread masking is a reflexive reaction to anxiety over the pandemic.

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Publication: Uncovered DC - [link to uncoverdc.com (secure)]

Author: Celia Farber - [link to uncoverdc.com (secure)]

Cited Sources: Kary B Mullis - Inventor of the PCR Test - the one currently (almost exclusively) being used to confirm Positive or Negative CoV tests (as well as HIV), even though that was NEVER the intent.


Article: The Corona Simulation Machine: Why the Inventor of The “Corona Test” Would Have Warned Us Not To Use It To Detect A Virus

Snippet: Scientists are doing an awful lot of damage to the world in the name of helping it. I don’t mind attacking my own fraternity because I am ashamed of it.” –Kary Mullis, Inventor of Polymerase Chain Reaction

What do we mean when we say somebody has ‘tested positive’ for the Corona Virus? The answer would astound you. But getting this “answer” is like getting to a very rare mushroom that only grows above 200 feet on a Sequoia tree in the forbidden forest.

I say that for dramatic effect, but also because I wound up, against all odds, finding it...

... We’ve been hijacked by our technologies, but left illiterate about what they actually mean. In this case, I am in the rare position of having known, spent time with, and interviewed the inventor of the method used in the presently available Covid-19 tests, which is called PCR, (Polymerase Chain Reaction.)

His name was Kary B. Mullis, and he was one of the warmest, funniest, most eclectic-minded people I ever met, in addition to being a staunch critic of HIV “science,” and an unlikely Nobel Laureate, i.e. a “genius.”

One time, in 1994, when I called to talk to him about how PCR was being weaponized to “prove,” almost a decade after it was asserted, that HIV caused AIDS, he actually came to tears.

The people who have taken all your freedoms away in recent weeks, they’re social engineers, politicians, globalist thought leaders, bankers, WHO fanatics, and the like. Their army is composed of “mainstream media,” which is now literally a round-the-clock perfect propaganda machine for the Gates-led Pandemic Reich...

Link to full article: [link to uncoverdc.com (secure)]
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Awesome article. Chinese paper says pcr test for covid19 can have an 80% false positive rate.

Article also states that the pcr test is doubling the DNA on each cycle, so that if everyone was tested at, say, 20 cycles all tests may be negative but if run through 50 cycles all tests may be positive. there is no set number of cycles so different labs or countries use different standards.
The point is most believe it's a binary test, positive or negative but in reality it's a sliding scale that can be manipulated.

Article is long and scientific so most won't read it. I wish a doctor or scientist able to put information in laymen terms would do a video on this information so it would get more exposure.
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Big Government, Group think, "We know what is best for you",

New world Order types are all implicated. Soros funds, Gates funds, Government funds, Clinton funds, and naturally massive government funding into all vaccine research primarily to eradicate AIDS. All of these organisations are connected, share board members, have common goals---public health and world health is one of them. Big pharma of course is involved as they want to sell you vaccines--that is what they do. Shady operators promising world class "contact tracing" capabilities are signing gigantic contracts all over the states, obvious graft. Follow the money when you cant figure out what is happening. The tight knit world virological community will never say a word. Vast majority of them work for the government or in government/charity funded institutions. There has been no discussion about the actual genetic sequence of this bug. Why. This would have been automatic under any other circumstance. None of these scientists ever discuss where the parts the virus came from or what is its actual physical makeup. They know what the make-up and purpose is, and do not want to have to lie in public, only to have the actual sequence revealed in the future. Liability issue. So it is not discussed. It is a massive ongoing coverup of the greatest science disaster in history. Would you own up to something like that. Fauci wont. His credibility, funding, world view, entire lifes work is at stake. Faith in science itself also at risk, due directly to big government, no debate, no alternative narrative, science. State run monopolies bring you this routinely. The health of you and your family is way down on their list of priorities. That health responsibility is yours, not Faucis, not Trumps, not Birx, not Pfizers, not some politician. They have their agendas--power and money.
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Thinking that we agree on most of these issues; however, I’m not convinced that Trump is an integral part of it all (and I don’t believe that you think so either when you get down to it). That said, I do think it feasible that he went along with the lifting of the moratorium because at the time it seemed the right thing to do after listening to “the experts” and trusting that the new guidelines would be followed. This is why it is sooo important to identify and reference the players and moving parts. If Trump pops into that ever revolving paradigm, I will throw him under the proverbial bus as well; however, I simply haven’t seen it in all of the research I’ve completed.

When he became wise to the shell game, he started reversing course. Too little too late I think, but at least he has reversed course. Heard anything much from Fauci or Birx as of late? The fact that he put them on center stage, however, is a flaw and one of the primary reasons we are so screwed up today. But maybe he knew well before. Maybe he is allowing them the rope they need to hang themselves? Maybe this “issue” we face is so big, so enmeshed, so encompassing and corrupted, this was the only way to combat it...

That said, regarding the GOF research, what else would a non-scientist leader do when your own long-time established “experts” are in your ear about the subject weekly, and a host of other “experts” (who all stand to gain from the renewed GOF research they’re cheering) are constantly publishing pieces about the need. Interestingly, one would think Trump might have been praised for this decision, but nary a word from our “trusted media” after. In fact, to the contrary. Instead, hit pieces over the decision to lift this moratorium (and the very real related dangers) ensue. Wonder why?

In short, the related “scientific community” and many others are up to their eyeballs in shit on this thing as a result, and the only opportunity for justice will either be Trump continuing forward broadly exposing the scam and holding people accountable, or that enough of the affected people (US) finally tell them all to fuck off - with extreme prejudice if necessary. That second option won’t happen unless enough are properly informed; hence, the effort on this thread. Not everyone has the time to dig and cite sources, but it is vitally important if one wishes to form the debate and expose the weaknesses (and lies) of the other side.

Maybe someone will read our respective posts and do some digging themselves, and maybe that will birth an influential voice that has the power to change things, but until then, we must enlighten one mind at a time. Arming them to hopefully change the minds of those around them.

Great posts BTW! Thanks for contributing.
 Quoting: SaveUSa

Regarding Trump and his actions in this matter. He was well aware of the type of work being carried on as far as AIDS research was concerned. A staple of all of his rallies and comments since the election was his claim that "we will have a cure for AIDS soon". I heard it in every speech. He was well aware of the rapid progress being made in this field, which is Faucis lifes work. You might have noticed that it has not come up again in any speech. Wonder Why? About three weeks ago, it came up once when he stated that we would soon have a cure for AIDS soon, then stuttered and said a cure for Covid. A Freudian slip of epic proportion. The initial WHO guidance after studying Wuhan outbreak was to implement spot Quarantines where necessary, but not impose travel restrictions or economic shutdowns. They recognized that the disease could not be stopped, and would inexorably spread around the world. They also recognized that the disease, although deadly, had a kill rate in line with a seasonal flu of about 1/1000. Their initial and now proven correct initial estimate, that lockdowns were pointless, would not work except to marginally slow the spread, and were exponentially more damaging than the disease itself, was and is 100% correct. Trump was handed this information, and without a doubt, Fauci and the CDC wholeheartedly approved and sided with the WHO. It is possible, although inconceivable, that Trump was npt apprised of the nature of the AIDS vaccine research but that escaped containment at Wuhan. Agreeing to this coverup was lie #1 and Mistake #1. He should have been truthful and let fallout rain down, investigations occur, and lessons to be learned, learned. At the urging of Fauci, he did not. Mistake #2 was making the political calculation that if he did not seem to be proactive in handling the pandemic, it would be a tool to be used against him in an election year. This started the obscene race to do whatever it takes stop a disease that is impossible to stop, by our political class. None of them want to be blamed for a single covid death, inevitable as those deaths might be. The public has never been told that the disease is not stoppable, and labors under the impression that it can. This political decision to act contrary to the recommendations of the scientists and the WHO was wreckless and Mistake #2 and Lie#2. His advisor, probably Kushner, decided that the best course of action was to be untruthful. Trumps main agenda had been to uncover the lies in the Deep State, and be truthful, and that was his agenda and the reason he was elected. People like Kushner, a shaper, feel that The American people cant handle the truth. The fact remains and is evident
that engaging in a complex series of lying and disinformation is a very difficult game to play. The various flip flops, changed narratives, obfuscations, misinformations etc etc that have been promulgated to sustain these lies has not played out well with the general public. If he loses this election, the basic lies and untruths will be the cause. He should have followed his gut instinct and been completely truthful---the agenda driven, clueless, sensationalist media would have attacked him notwithstanding.
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Big Government, Group think, "We know what is best for you",

New world Order types are all implicated. Soros funds, Gates funds, Government funds, Clinton funds, and naturally massive government funding into all vaccine research primarily to eradicate AIDS. All of these organisations are connected, share board members, have common goals---public health and world health is one of them. Big pharma of course is involved as they want to sell you vaccines--that is what they do. Shady operators promising world class "contact tracing" capabilities are signing gigantic contracts all over the states, obvious graft. Follow the money when you cant figure out what is happening. The tight knit world virological community will never say a word. Vast majority of them work for the government or in government/charity funded institutions. There has been no discussion about the actual genetic sequence of this bug. Why. This would have been automatic under any other circumstance. None of these scientists ever discuss where the parts the virus came from or what is its actual physical makeup. They know what the make-up and purpose is, and do not want to have to lie in public, only to have the actual sequence revealed in the future. Liability issue. So it is not discussed. It is a massive ongoing coverup of the greatest science disaster in history. Would you own up to something like that. Fauci wont. His credibility, funding, world view, entire lifes work is at stake. Faith in science itself also at risk, due directly to big government, no debate, no alternative narrative, science. State run monopolies bring you this routinely. The health of you and your family is way down on their list of priorities. That health responsibility is yours, not Faucis, not Trumps, not Birx, not Pfizers, not some politician. They have their agendas--power and money.
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Thinking that we agree on most of these issues; however, I’m not convinced that Trump is an integral part of it all (and I don’t believe that you think so either when you get down to it). That said, I do think it feasible that he went along with the lifting of the moratorium because at the time it seemed the right thing to do after listening to “the experts” and trusting that the new guidelines would be followed. This is why it is sooo important to identify and reference the players and moving parts. If Trump pops into that ever revolving paradigm, I will throw him under the proverbial bus as well; however, I simply haven’t seen it in all of the research I’ve completed.

When he became wise to the shell game, he started reversing course. Too little too late I think, but at least he has reversed course. Heard anything much from Fauci or Birx as of late? The fact that he put them on center stage, however, is a flaw and one of the primary reasons we are so screwed up today. But maybe he knew well before. Maybe he is allowing them the rope they need to hang themselves? Maybe this “issue” we face is so big, so enmeshed, so encompassing and corrupted, this was the only way to combat it...

That said, regarding the GOF research, what else would a non-scientist leader do when your own long-time established “experts” are in your ear about the subject weekly, and a host of other “experts” (who all stand to gain from the renewed GOF research they’re cheering) are constantly publishing pieces about the need. Interestingly, one would think Trump might have been praised for this decision, but nary a word from our “trusted media” after. In fact, to the contrary. Instead, hit pieces over the decision to lift this moratorium (and the very real related dangers) ensue. Wonder why?

In short, the related “scientific community” and many others are up to their eyeballs in shit on this thing as a result, and the only opportunity for justice will either be Trump continuing forward broadly exposing the scam and holding people accountable, or that enough of the affected people (US) finally tell them all to fuck off - with extreme prejudice if necessary. That second option won’t happen unless enough are properly informed; hence, the effort on this thread. Not everyone has the time to dig and cite sources, but it is vitally important if one wishes to form the debate and expose the weaknesses (and lies) of the other side.

Maybe someone will read our respective posts and do some digging themselves, and maybe that will birth an influential voice that has the power to change things, but until then, we must enlighten one mind at a time. Arming them to hopefully change the minds of those around them.

Great posts BTW! Thanks for contributing.
 Quoting: SaveUSa

Regarding Trump and his actions in this matter. He was well aware of the type of work being carried on as far as AIDS research was concerned. A staple of all of his rallies and comments since the election was his claim that "we will have a cure for AIDS soon". I heard it in every speech. He was well aware of the rapid progress being made in this field, which is Faucis lifes work. You might have noticed that it has not come up again in any speech. Wonder Why? About three weeks ago, it came up once when he stated that we would soon have a cure for AIDS soon, then stuttered and said a cure for Covid. A Freudian slip of epic proportion. The initial WHO guidance after studying Wuhan outbreak was to implement spot Quarantines where necessary, but not impose travel restrictions or economic shutdowns. They recognized that the disease could not be stopped, and would inexorably spread around the world. They also recognized that the disease, although deadly, had a kill rate in line with a seasonal flu of about 1/1000. Their initial and now proven correct initial estimate, that lockdowns were pointless, would not work except to marginally slow the spread, and were exponentially more damaging than the disease itself, was and is 100% correct. Trump was handed this information, and without a doubt, Fauci and the CDC wholeheartedly approved and sided with the WHO. It is possible, although inconceivable, that Trump was npt apprised of the nature of the AIDS vaccine research but that escaped containment at Wuhan. Agreeing to this coverup was lie #1 and Mistake #1. He should have been truthful and let fallout rain down, investigations occur, and lessons to be learned, learned. At the urging of Fauci, he did not. Mistake #2 was making the political calculation that if he did not seem to be proactive in handling the pandemic, it would be a tool to be used against him in an election year. This started the obscene race to do whatever it takes stop a disease that is impossible to stop, by our political class. None of them want to be blamed for a single covid death, inevitable as those deaths might be. The public has never been told that the disease is not stoppable, and labors under the impression that it can. This political decision to act contrary to the recommendations of the scientists and the WHO was wreckless and Mistake #2 and Lie#2. His advisor, probably Kushner, decided that the best course of action was to be untruthful. Trumps main agenda had been to uncover the lies in the Deep State, and be truthful, and that was his agenda and the reason he was elected. People like Kushner, a shaper, feel that The American people cant handle the truth. The fact remains and is evident
that engaging in a complex series of lying and disinformation is a very difficult game to play. The various flip flops, changed narratives, obfuscations, misinformations etc etc that have been promulgated to sustain these lies has not played out well with the general public. If he loses this election, the basic lies and untruths will be the cause. He should have followed his gut instinct and been completely truthful---the agenda driven, clueless, sensationalist media would have attacked him notwithstanding.
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Regarding Trump and his actions in this matter. He was well aware of the type of work being carried on as far as AIDS research was concerned. A staple of all of his rallies and comments since the election was his claim that "we will have a cure for AIDS soon". I heard it in every speech. He was well aware of the rapid progress being made in this field, which is Faucis lifes work. You might have noticed that it has not come up again in any speech. Wonder Why? About three weeks ago, it came up once when he stated that we would soon have a cure for AIDS soon, then stuttered and said a cure for Covid. A Freudian slip of epic proportion. The initial WHO guidance after studying Wuhan outbreak was to implement spot Quarantines where necessary, but not impose travel restrictions or economic shutdowns. They recognized that the disease could not be stopped, and would inexorably spread around the world. They also recognized that the disease, although deadly, had a kill rate in line with a seasonal flu of about 1/1000. Their initial and now proven correct initial estimate, that lockdowns were pointless, would not work except to marginally slow the spread, and were exponentially more damaging than the disease itself, was and is 100% correct. Trump was handed this information, and without a doubt, Fauci and the CDC wholeheartedly approved and sided with the WHO. It is possible, although inconceivable, that Trump was npt apprised of the nature of the AIDS vaccine research but that escaped containment at Wuhan. Agreeing to this coverup was lie #1 and Mistake #1. He should have been truthful and let fallout rain down, investigations occur, and lessons to be learned, learned. At the urging of Fauci, he did not. Mistake #2 was making the political calculation that if he did not seem to be proactive in handling the pandemic, it would be a tool to be used against him in an election year. This started the obscene race to do whatever it takes stop a disease that is impossible to stop, by our political class. None of them want to be blamed for a single covid death, inevitable as those deaths might be. The public has never been told that the disease is not stoppable, and labors under the impression that it can. This political decision to act contrary to the recommendations of the scientists and the WHO was wreckless and Mistake #2 and Lie#2. His advisor, probably Kushner, decided that the best course of action was to be untruthful. Trumps main agenda had been to uncover the lies in the Deep State, and be truthful, and that was his agenda and the reason he was elected. People like Kushner, a shaper, feel that The American people cant handle the truth. The fact remains and is evident
that engaging in a complex series of lying and disinformation is a very difficult game to play. The various flip flops, changed narratives, obfuscations, misinformations etc etc that have been promulgated to sustain these lies has not played out well with the general public. If he loses this election, the basic lies and untruths will be the cause. He should have followed his gut instinct and been completely truthful---the agenda driven, clueless, sensationalist media would have attacked him notwithstanding.
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Interesting thoughts. As I said before, I truly do not care where this leads us (even though I hope for the best); however, I have to ask how Fauci and Trump were connected prior to the election? It sounds as if they must have been communicating often (or at least substantively on occasion) for him to be relying on “Fauci’s life’s work” in his claims of curing Aids soon (claims I don’t recall in the speeches I watched, but I’m not saying they didn’t happen).

Also, please point to the initial WHO guidance regarding selective quarantines and no lockdown. And then anything you’ve found from them that counters the current highly popular  “science” that appears to recommend the opposite. Surely, if the WHO is so against current US tactics in fighting this thing, they would be saying so loudly (particularly now), don’t ya think?

Regarding Trump and “why” he mentions curing Aids in every speech, but no more mention as of late, I agree it might be possible that he was convinced by Fauci and others early on of their credibility. Easy to do when you’re a businessman “germaphobe” not really knowing your friends or enemies (of which there appear to be many), coming into office, and then being played by a bunch of seemingly neutral scientists that have credentials dating back to the Reagan era and beyond.

The question is whether or not Trump is an active participant in the current charade, or if he has figured it all out (well before many others), and is attempting to thwart it along the way. Hence, the very public mention of HCQ for instance. A very cheap alternative to the very expensive treatments being touted by Fauci...as well as other interesting moves that counter the Big Pharma/Gates/Fauci narrative. In fact, decimate it if people pay attention.

That said, I do agree that mistakes have been made throughout this clusterfuck by this administration, but I’m thinking that those mistakes were more from ignorance of the subject than from any ill intent. I also believe that he may well have figured this all out too late, and there are in fact politics involved as well as a result; however, if given a choice between an obvious Marxist movement intent on destroying the very foundations of the country, weaponizing every agency and institution to do just that, and a businessman that has made a few mistakes (and happens to be a bit rude and narcissistic) but still believes in those foundations, what is the proper choice if you want your kids to grow up at least somewhat free?

I will research your claims, but answers to the above few questions will help in that regard.

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Modest retraction on the above post. The poster is correct about Trump claiming a cure for aids “in 10 years” but during THIS election season. I thought the poster was referring to pre-2016 campaign. So, it is understandable how Trump might include these claims prior to the CoV mess, and even why he included Fauci in the early briefings. I think he has fixed that issue now, and it is likely also why no more mention of same. In short - he may not have known then, but he sure as hell knows now.

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Looks like the WHO is all for lockdowns today, as well as continuing them for as long as humanly possible by issuing additional “guidance” that can easily be “misinterpreted” depending on the data flavor of the day, and then strongly recommend what amounts to tyrannical utopia via global contact tracing. So, WHO at this point truly has no credibility anymore. It’s quite obvious what side of this thing they’re on...Why cite them here?
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Regarding the rest, I do agree that this entire fiasco started and has been allowed to continue because of politics, and we have all been played at varying levels by all sides. Taking and acting upon the initial advice of Fauci was a mistake, allowing him center stage for so long an even bigger one. But now that we suspect he realizes the error, we must give him the opportunity to fix it “politically” (its the only way) and hold those involved accountable. It’s our only choice at this stage. To do otherwise will surely kill this country.

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Publication: Contending for thé Faith - [link to cftfpaper.com]

Author: Bro Yew - can’t find anything on this guy, but glad he did it.

Cited Sources: Too many to list (pretty much everyone on everything related). That said to the OP that posted this.


Article: Covid-19: What you’re NOT being told, what Other Experts are Saying

Snippet: CDC: A positive Covid-19 Test result could just mean that you have antibodies from an infection with a virus from the same family of viruses (called coronaviruses), such as the one that causes the common cold [i.e. a positive test result doesn’t necessarily mean you have Covid-19].

Manufactured Pandemic: Testing People for Any Strain of a Coronavirus [which includes common cold/flu, American Medical Association Encyclopedia of Medicine], Not Specifically for COVID-19

States adopting “revised definition” for “Covid-19 Probable cases”: all contacts of those who’re “Covid-19 confirmed” get added to Covid-19 case count, as if they too are confirmed cases

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Publication: Uncovered DC - [link to uncoverdc.com (secure)]

Author: Celia Farber - [link to uncoverdc.com (secure)]

Cited Sources: Kary B Mullis - Inventor of the PCR Test - the one currently (almost exclusively) being used to confirm Positive or Negative CoV tests (as well as HIV), even though that was NEVER the intent.


Article: The Corona Simulation Machine: Why the Inventor of The “Corona Test” Would Have Warned Us Not To Use It To Detect A Virus

Snippet: Scientists are doing an awful lot of damage to the world in the name of helping it. I don’t mind attacking my own fraternity because I am ashamed of it.” –Kary Mullis, Inventor of Polymerase Chain Reaction

What do we mean when we say somebody has ‘tested positive’ for the Corona Virus? The answer would astound you. But getting this “answer” is like getting to a very rare mushroom that only grows above 200 feet on a Sequoia tree in the forbidden forest.

I say that for dramatic effect, but also because I wound up, against all odds, finding it...

... We’ve been hijacked by our technologies, but left illiterate about what they actually mean. In this case, I am in the rare position of having known, spent time with, and interviewed the inventor of the method used in the presently available Covid-19 tests, which is called PCR, (Polymerase Chain Reaction.)

His name was Kary B. Mullis, and he was one of the warmest, funniest, most eclectic-minded people I ever met, in addition to being a staunch critic of HIV “science,” and an unlikely Nobel Laureate, i.e. a “genius.”

One time, in 1994, when I called to talk to him about how PCR was being weaponized to “prove,” almost a decade after it was asserted, that HIV caused AIDS, he actually came to tears.

The people who have taken all your freedoms away in recent weeks, they’re social engineers, politicians, globalist thought leaders, bankers, WHO fanatics, and the like. Their army is composed of “mainstream media,” which is now literally a round-the-clock perfect propaganda machine for the Gates-led Pandemic Reich...

Link to full article: [link to uncoverdc.com (secure)]
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Awesome article. Chinese paper says pcr test for covid19 can have an 80% false positive rate.

Article also states that the pcr test is doubling the DNA on each cycle, so that if everyone was tested at, say, 20 cycles all tests may be negative but if run through 50 cycles all tests may be positive. there is no set number of cycles so different labs or countries use different standards.
The point is most believe it's a binary test, positive or negative but in reality it's a sliding scale that can be manipulated.

Article is long and scientific so most won't read it. I wish a doctor or scientist able to put information in laymen terms would do a video on this information so it would get more exposure.
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Thanks! I think most here can get the gist. The writer does a fair job of putting this into layman’s terms, but all one really needs to understand is that the very inventor of the PCR test says that those using it for CoV are up to their eyeballs in shit.
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You might have noticed that the mods have relegated this to the bottom of the pile. These statements and conclusions and truthful narratives are radioactive.
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Then keep bumping. And above all - contribute!
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Video: Doctors Break Down COVID Response

Interviewer: [link to www.youtube.com (secure)]

Cited Sources: Dr. Dan Wohlgelernter - [link to santamonicacardiology.com]

Dr. Simone Gold, MD, JD - [link to www.linkedin.com (secure)]

Summary: breakdown of how badly the current crop of scientists, government officials and the media are treating this plandemic, along with personal accounts of how they’ve been treated since blowing the whistle. Well worth the watch. Thanks to the OP that posted it.

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Publication: Uncovered DC - [link to uncoverdc.com (secure)]

Author: Celia Farber - [link to uncoverdc.com (secure)]

Cited Sources: Kary B Mullis - Inventor of the PCR Test - the one currently (almost exclusively) being used to confirm Positive or Negative CoV tests (as well as HIV), even though that was NEVER the intent.


Article: The Corona Simulation Machine: Why the Inventor of The “Corona Test” Would Have Warned Us Not To Use It To Detect A Virus

Snippet: Scientists are doing an awful lot of damage to the world in the name of helping it. I don’t mind attacking my own fraternity because I am ashamed of it.” –Kary Mullis, Inventor of Polymerase Chain Reaction

What do we mean when we say somebody has ‘tested positive’ for the Corona Virus? The answer would astound you. But getting this “answer” is like getting to a very rare mushroom that only grows above 200 feet on a Sequoia tree in the forbidden forest.

I say that for dramatic effect, but also because I wound up, against all odds, finding it...

... We’ve been hijacked by our technologies, but left illiterate about what they actually mean. In this case, I am in the rare position of having known, spent time with, and interviewed the inventor of the method used in the presently available Covid-19 tests, which is called PCR, (Polymerase Chain Reaction.)

His name was Kary B. Mullis, and he was one of the warmest, funniest, most eclectic-minded people I ever met, in addition to being a staunch critic of HIV “science,” and an unlikely Nobel Laureate, i.e. a “genius.”

One time, in 1994, when I called to talk to him about how PCR was being weaponized to “prove,” almost a decade after it was asserted, that HIV caused AIDS, he actually came to tears.

The people who have taken all your freedoms away in recent weeks, they’re social engineers, politicians, globalist thought leaders, bankers, WHO fanatics, and the like. Their army is composed of “mainstream media,” which is now literally a round-the-clock perfect propaganda machine for the Gates-led Pandemic Reich...

Link to full article: [link to uncoverdc.com (secure)]
 Quoting: SaveUSa


Awesome article. Chinese paper says pcr test for covid19 can have an 80% false positive rate.

Article also states that the pcr test is doubling the DNA on each cycle, so that if everyone was tested at, say, 20 cycles all tests may be negative but if run through 50 cycles all tests may be positive. there is no set number of cycles so different labs or countries use different standards.
The point is most believe it's a binary test, positive or negative but in reality it's a sliding scale that can be manipulated.

Article is long and scientific so most won't read it. I wish a doctor or scientist able to put information in laymen terms would do a video on this information so it would get more exposure.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26871372


Thanks! I think most here can get the gist. The writer does a fair job of putting this into layman’s terms, but all one really needs to understand is that the very inventor of the PCR test says that those using it for CoV are up to their eyeballs in shit.
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Yeah, I agree most here or really anyone with an interest in getting to the truth won't have a problem, I was really thinking of how to wake up some of the sheep but that's probably impossible anyway.

Anyway, I just read the article a second time and have to thank you again for linking to this, it's truly amazing information. I've been thinking about this a lot and have a crazy hypothesis.

First of all the article makes it clear that the PCR test is total BS. What are people testing positive for?? Why can nearly everyone test positive if they run the PCR test through enough cycles? As explained in the article they are looking at a very small fragment of DNA that nearly everyone would have at some level, meaning if amplified it enough times you would find it in nearly everyone. They gave the analogy of a small portion of a fingerprint such as a loop, that nearly everyone has.

So, we have to conclude that the test is irrelevant and the number of "cases" reported to us is irrelevant and that most likely what they are testing for has no relationship to what people are dying from. So, what are they dying from? I don't know, but I have some theories.

I'm beginning to question whether there is even a disease that is contagious. We know nearly everyone that died has other health issues. Most have very low vitamin D levels and insulin resistance so they have a very weakened immune system. We know that all cause mortality is higher than average but not higher than many past years. We know deaths from other health issues are in some cases being attributed to covid. We know that in New York some people with symptoms of extreme anxiety were being ventilated and eventually died. Obviously some are experiencing some illness that is attacking their respiratory system. One doctor described it as similar to some type of poison. How many people had been vaccinated for other diseases recently? Everyone in a nursing home had been.

In conclusion, I think we need to look at this from a different angle. What outside toxin or influence could be used to cause these symptoms in vulnerable people?
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Regarding Trump and his actions in this matter. He was well aware of the type of work being carried on as far as AIDS research was concerned. A staple of all of his rallies and comments since the election was his claim that "we will have a cure for AIDS soon". I heard it in every speech. He was well aware of the rapid progress being made in this field, which is Faucis lifes work. You might have noticed that it has not come up again in any speech. Wonder Why? About three weeks ago, it came up once when he stated that we would soon have a cure for AIDS soon, then stuttered and said a cure for Covid. A Freudian slip of epic proportion. The initial WHO guidance after studying Wuhan outbreak was to implement spot Quarantines where necessary, but not impose travel restrictions or economic shutdowns. They recognized that the disease could not be stopped, and would inexorably spread around the world. They also recognized that the disease, although deadly, had a kill rate in line with a seasonal flu of about 1/1000. Their initial and now proven correct initial estimate, that lockdowns were pointless, would not work except to marginally slow the spread, and were exponentially more damaging than the disease itself, was and is 100% correct. Trump was handed this information, and without a doubt, Fauci and the CDC wholeheartedly approved and sided with the WHO. It is possible, although inconceivable, that Trump was npt apprised of the nature of the AIDS vaccine research but that escaped containment at Wuhan. Agreeing to this coverup was lie #1 and Mistake #1. He should have been truthful and let fallout rain down, investigations occur, and lessons to be learned, learned. At the urging of Fauci, he did not. Mistake #2 was making the political calculation that if he did not seem to be proactive in handling the pandemic, it would be a tool to be used against him in an election year. This started the obscene race to do whatever it takes stop a disease that is impossible to stop, by our political class. None of them want to be blamed for a single covid death, inevitable as those deaths might be. The public has never been told that the disease is not stoppable, and labors under the impression that it can. This political decision to act contrary to the recommendations of the scientists and the WHO was wreckless and Mistake #2 and Lie#2. His advisor, probably Kushner, decided that the best course of action was to be untruthful. Trumps main agenda had been to uncover the lies in the Deep State, and be truthful, and that was his agenda and the reason he was elected. People like Kushner, a shaper, feel that The American people cant handle the truth. The fact remains and is evident
that engaging in a complex series of lying and disinformation is a very difficult game to play. The various flip flops, changed narratives, obfuscations, misinformations etc etc that have been promulgated to sustain these lies has not played out well with the general public. If he loses this election, the basic lies and untruths will be the cause. He should have followed his gut instinct and been completely truthful---the agenda driven, clueless, sensationalist media would have attacked him notwithstanding.
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Interesting thoughts. As I said before, I truly do not care where this leads us (even though I hope for the best); however, I have to ask how Fauci and Trump were connected prior to the election? It sounds as if they must have been communicating often (or at least substantively on occasion) for him to be relying on “Fauci’s life’s work” in his claims of curing Aids soon (claims I don’t recall in the speeches I watched, but I’m not saying they didn’t happen).

Also, please point to the initial WHO guidance regarding selective quarantines and no lockdown. And then anything you’ve found from them that counters the current highly popular  “science” that appears to recommend the opposite. Surely, if the WHO is so against current US tactics in fighting this thing, they would be saying so loudly (particularly now), don’t ya think?

Regarding Trump and “why” he mentions curing Aids in every speech, but no more mention as of late, I agree it might be possible that he was convinced by Fauci and others early on of their credibility. Easy to do when you’re a businessman “germaphobe” not really knowing your friends or enemies (of which there appear to be many), coming into office, and then being played by a bunch of seemingly neutral scientists that have credentials dating back to the Reagan era and beyond.

The question is whether or not Trump is an active participant in the current charade, or if he has figured it all out (well before many others), and is attempting to thwart it along the way. Hence, the very public mention of HCQ for instance. A very cheap alternative to the very expensive treatments being touted by Fauci...as well as other interesting moves that counter the Big Pharma/Gates/Fauci narrative. In fact, decimate it if people pay attention.

That said, I do agree that mistakes have been made throughout this clusterfuck by this administration, but I’m thinking that those mistakes were more from ignorance of the subject than from any ill intent. I also believe that he may well have figured this all out too late, and there are in fact politics involved as well as a result; however, if given a choice between an obvious Marxist movement intent on destroying the very foundations of the country, weaponizing every agency and institution to do just that, and a businessman that has made a few mistakes (and happens to be a bit rude and narcissistic) but still believes in those foundations, what is the proper choice if you want your kids to grow up at least somewhat free?

I will research your claims, but answers to the above few questions will help in that regard.
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I dont believe I stated that Trump Knew Fauci before the election. He certainly would have met him afterwards during the transition or after inauguration when he would be briefed on the various departments of the government and what they were doing. He seized upon Faucis knowledge that an AIDS vaccine was pending. Apparently you did not listen to many of his speeches or rallies. I listened to them all. The cure for aids tout was in all of them, at least 15. Concerning Fauci, read WIKI bio to get an idea how involved he has been with AIDS. It is clearly stated.
The WHO was against travel restrictions and economic shutdowns. You should be able to verify this easily as it is still their recommendation. When the WHO was asked If Sweden's approach was valid, they said "YES". The travel restrictions that Trump put in place were in direct conflict to the WHO policy. Who do you think Trump was arguing with? Trump was well aware of all the facts of the AIDS vaccine research bug escaping containment at Wuhan.
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Regarding Trump and his actions in this matter. He was well aware of the type of work being carried on as far as AIDS research was concerned. A staple of all of his rallies and comments since the election was his claim that "we will have a cure for AIDS soon". I heard it in every speech. He was well aware of the rapid progress being made in this field, which is Faucis lifes work. You might have noticed that it has not come up again in any speech. Wonder Why? About three weeks ago, it came up once when he stated that we would soon have a cure for AIDS soon, then stuttered and said a cure for Covid. A Freudian slip of epic proportion. The initial WHO guidance after studying Wuhan outbreak was to implement spot Quarantines where necessary, but not impose travel restrictions or economic shutdowns. They recognized that the disease could not be stopped, and would inexorably spread around the world. They also recognized that the disease, although deadly, had a kill rate in line with a seasonal flu of about 1/1000. Their initial and now proven correct initial estimate, that lockdowns were pointless, would not work except to marginally slow the spread, and were exponentially more damaging than the disease itself, was and is 100% correct. Trump was handed this information, and without a doubt, Fauci and the CDC wholeheartedly approved and sided with the WHO. It is possible, although inconceivable, that Trump was npt apprised of the nature of the AIDS vaccine research but that escaped containment at Wuhan. Agreeing to this coverup was lie #1 and Mistake #1. He should have been truthful and let fallout rain down, investigations occur, and lessons to be learned, learned. At the urging of Fauci, he did not. Mistake #2 was making the political calculation that if he did not seem to be proactive in handling the pandemic, it would be a tool to be used against him in an election year. This started the obscene race to do whatever it takes stop a disease that is impossible to stop, by our political class. None of them want to be blamed for a single covid death, inevitable as those deaths might be. The public has never been told that the disease is not stoppable, and labors under the impression that it can. This political decision to act contrary to the recommendations of the scientists and the WHO was wreckless and Mistake #2 and Lie#2. His advisor, probably Kushner, decided that the best course of action was to be untruthful. Trumps main agenda had been to uncover the lies in the Deep State, and be truthful, and that was his agenda and the reason he was elected. People like Kushner, a shaper, feel that The American people cant handle the truth. The fact remains and is evident
that engaging in a complex series of lying and disinformation is a very difficult game to play. The various flip flops, changed narratives, obfuscations, misinformations etc etc that have been promulgated to sustain these lies has not played out well with the general public. If he loses this election, the basic lies and untruths will be the cause. He should have followed his gut instinct and been completely truthful---the agenda driven, clueless, sensationalist media would have attacked him notwithstanding.
 Quoting: SaveUSa


Interesting thoughts. As I said before, I truly do not care where this leads us (even though I hope for the best); however, I have to ask how Fauci and Trump were connected prior to the election? It sounds as if they must have been communicating often (or at least substantively on occasion) for him to be relying on “Fauci’s life’s work” in his claims of curing Aids soon (claims I don’t recall in the speeches I watched, but I’m not saying they didn’t happen).

Also, please point to the initial WHO guidance regarding selective quarantines and no lockdown. And then anything you’ve found from them that counters the current highly popular  “science” that appears to recommend the opposite. Surely, if the WHO is so against current US tactics in fighting this thing, they would be saying so loudly (particularly now), don’t ya think?

Regarding Trump and “why” he mentions curing Aids in every speech, but no more mention as of late, I agree it might be possible that he was convinced by Fauci and others early on of their credibility. Easy to do when you’re a businessman “germaphobe” not really knowing your friends or enemies (of which there appear to be many), coming into office, and then being played by a bunch of seemingly neutral scientists that have credentials dating back to the Reagan era and beyond.

The question is whether or not Trump is an active participant in the current charade, or if he has figured it all out (well before many others), and is attempting to thwart it along the way. Hence, the very public mention of HCQ for instance. A very cheap alternative to the very expensive treatments being touted by Fauci...as well as other interesting moves that counter the Big Pharma/Gates/Fauci narrative. In fact, decimate it if people pay attention.

That said, I do agree that mistakes have been made throughout this clusterfuck by this administration, but I’m thinking that those mistakes were more from ignorance of the subject than from any ill intent. I also believe that he may well have figured this all out too late, and there are in fact politics involved as well as a result; however, if given a choice between an obvious Marxist movement intent on destroying the very foundations of the country, weaponizing every agency and institution to do just that, and a businessman that has made a few mistakes (and happens to be a bit rude and narcissistic) but still believes in those foundations, what is the proper choice if you want your kids to grow up at least somewhat free?

I will research your claims, but answers to the above few questions will help in that regard.
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I dont believe I stated that Trump Knew Fauci before the election. He certainly would have met him afterwards during the transition or after inauguration when he would be briefed on the various departments of the government and what they were doing. He seized upon Faucis knowledge that an AIDS vaccine was pending. Apparently you did not listen to many of his speeches or rallies. I listened to them all. The cure for aids tout was in all of them, at least 15. Concerning Fauci, read WIKI bio to get an idea how involved he has been with AIDS. It is clearly stated.
The WHO was against travel restrictions and economic shutdowns. You should be able to verify this easily as it is still their recommendation. When the WHO was asked If Sweden's approach was valid, they said "YES". The travel restrictions that Trump put in place were in direct conflict to the WHO policy. Who do you think Trump was arguing with? Trump was well aware of all the facts of the AIDS vaccine research bug escaping containment at Wuhan. Never mentioned AIDS cure again.
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As far as the Hydroxy question goes Check out the treatment of AIDS also in WIKI. Hydroxy is a broad spectrum anti viral used for years against viruses, malaria, lupus and other diseases. When Trump touted it Hydroxy became political. There is no doubt that it is a palliative. However, Remdesivir is an AIDS specific anti-viral and more effective because it is the AIDS spikes on Covid19 that are causing the problem.
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Publication: Full Measure - [link to en.m.wikipedia.org (secure)]

Author: Sheryl Attkisson - [link to en.m.wikipedia.org (secure)]

Cited Sources: Dr. William O'Neill - Medical Director at the Henry Ford Health System in Detroit MI. [link to www.henryford.com (secure)] (highly credentialed by the way).


Video Title: Remdesivir vs Hydroxychloroquine

Snippet: HCQ essentially eats Remdesivir’s lunch, and it’s a helluva lot cheaper! Also goes into the reasons why Fauci might want to promote this expensive alternative that doesn’t work as well. Great Vid. Watch it!

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Watch the above vid regarding Remdesivir.

I’m well aware of Fauci’s involvement in all of this, including Remdesivir. Also, note my retraction above regarding Fauci and Trump. My point is if Trump were equally invested in this (or involved in the scam at least), he would never have floated HCQ as a viable alternate therapeutic. This one very public mention of same completely scuttles any hope of Remdesivir being the holy grail of COVID cures (which it’s not).

Regarding the WHO, we know for a fact that they were in bed with China from the beginning, and have been wrong on numerous occasions regarding treatment, severity, infection rate, and just about every other detail regarding this disease. In fact, they were quite vocal about China’s “containment measures” heaping praise for the draconian lockdowns at the time (while ignoring their missteps in the earliest stages). They have literally lost all credibility in the handling of this, and should be treated accordingly (which Trump is now doing).

[link to www.theatlantic.com (secure)] (Not a big Trump fan publication, but even the Atlantic appears to agree)

All I’m saying is that I believe that everyone was played on this, including Trump (and many “scientists” that he had no choice but to rely upon), but that his actions to date have proven that he is most definitely not one of the “players.” Fauci is though, and I believe that Trump knows this now, but must play a much more politically intricate game to diffuse the damage done. The other side knows he knows too, which is why we have the chaos we see today.
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This is an absolutely amazing article about why the PCR test is totally worthless in detecting a viral disease.

[link to uncoverdc.com (secure)]
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This is an absolutely amazing article about why the PCR test is totally worthless in detecting a viral disease.

[link to uncoverdc.com (secure)]
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Oops, was going to post this on another thread, consider this a BUMP, lol
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This is an absolutely amazing article about why the PCR test is totally worthless in detecting a viral disease.

[link to uncoverdc.com (secure)]
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Oops, was going to post this on another thread, consider this a BUMP, lol
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Thanks! Already posted here. Cited too. Worth the read.

Again, if anyone cares to take any of this subject matter and start their own thread, or contribute to another - by all means! That’s what this thread is about.

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Publication: Wired - Left Wing rag that regularly attempts to frame “right wing” posters and journalists as misinfo agents (or even call out left wing misinfo agents as right wing) - and this article is no different. BUT they actually do a fair job of exposing some of the bullshit on COVID. Hilariously, the cited subjects actually state that their preliminary analysis of data suggests that “right wing trolls” are likely behind the flood of misinfo. Inferring that we are the ones attempting to extend this chaos through fear. Lol.

So, left wing propagandists offering good info refuting the narrative, but wrapped in left wing propaganda - this is how they roll. So, read this one with a grain of salt, but the take aways outside of the bullshit are worthy of the post here. The heart warming part, however, is that some on the left are beginning to finally “get it.”

Author: Tom Simonite - [link to www.wired.com (secure)]

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Jevin West

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Carl Bergstrom

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Article: The Professors Who Call ‘Bullshit’ on Covid-19 Misinformation

Snippet: Jevin West and Carl Bergstrom are policing Twitter feeds, Medium posts, and other sources of bad data and misleading charts.

A FEW YEARS ago, Jevin West told fellow University of Washington professor Carl Bergstrom that he was starting a new course on big data. “Oh yeah,” Bergstrom joked, “I’m starting a course called ‘Calling bullshit on big data.’”

The pair worked together to develop a course, Calling Bullshit, broadening the scope to offer tips on how to detect and disarm spurious appeals to data and science in anything from TED talks to medical papers. The syllabus went viral, and dozens of universities around the world now draw on the UW material. Bergstrom and West reoriented their careers around bullshit detection, wrote a forthcoming book, and in December established a new Center for an Informed Public.

A month later, the novel coronavirus arrived. The professors quickly realized it would be their toughest assignment yet in forensic scatology. The pandemic has added Miracle-Gro to what Bergstrom and West’s course calls the “natural ecology of bullshit.” Human nature and society—particularly online—offer psychological and monetary rewards for attracting attention, regardless of whether information is accurate. That the president of the United States has repeatedly spread untruths about the coronavirus and the government’s response aggravates the situation.

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Within the surreal depths of "reality" lies the truth.





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