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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 45720034 Australia 07/16/2020 06:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Not an optical microscope. You'd need an electron microscope, which is super expensive. That's convenient, isn't it? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78240704 I could have sworn I’ve heard on podcasts like crrow and threads here that state “ No AIDS virus has ever been isolated , only the behaviour of the cells and blood give the detection of a virus existing “ or something like that . |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 72622319 United States 07/16/2020 06:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "Authorities" spreading fake bs and regular people talking out their ass... wtf are you suppose to believe these days?! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77449541 Who would you believe? An expert who dedicates their life to studying these things or a billionaire? Maybe Dr. Fauci can start giving us stock advice. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77930181 United States 07/16/2020 07:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Not an optical microscope. You'd need an electron microscope, which is super expensive. That's convenient, isn't it? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78240704 I could have sworn I’ve heard on podcasts like crrow and threads here that state “ No AIDS virus has ever been isolated , only the behaviour of the cells and blood give the detection of a virus existing “ or something like that . I dunno. I'm not a biologist. I've read something about putting biological samples in a blender to chop them up, then using a centrifuge to separate the ingredients by density, but I dunno if that had anything to do with virus stuff. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 71594995 United States 07/16/2020 07:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Not an optical microscope. You'd need an electron microscope, which is super expensive. That's convenient, isn't it? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78240704 I could have sworn I’ve heard on podcasts like crrow and threads here that state “ No AIDS virus has ever been isolated , only the behaviour of the cells and blood give the detection of a virus existing “ or something like that . I have read much on those theories as well. They haven't actually isolated the 'aids' virus, they just assume it is there because of certain antibodies in the blood. Another theory is 'aids' is the failure of the immune system due to the lifestyle of the people that are usually 'diagnosed' with it. if you follow the money trail, it becomes perfectly clear...just like everything else the AMA touches. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 71594995 United States 07/16/2020 07:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.researchgate.net (secure)] After years spent wading through the minutiae of AIDS science, I now find myself very close to believing the truly astounding — that the virus known as HIV, which has sucked up billions of our research dollars and tied up laboratories the world over, does not exist. This possibility — devastating in its implications — came to me here in London, courtesy of a number of mind-blowing interviews with renegade scientists who believe that HIV is not really a microbiological entity, but merely a collection of signals caused by stresses on the immune system. If this is true, every assumption about AIDS testing and treatment gets thrown to the wind. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 71594995 United States 07/16/2020 07:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | so what group is diagnosed the most with this possible fictitious disease? If you remove the PC/SWJ blinders, take a look at their lifestyle. How they party. What type and how much drugs they ingest. Their habits. Their lack of respect for themselves. They are basically destroying their physical body. The body tried to fight this lifestyle (what they are actually detecting) and eventually just consumes itself because there is no foreign anything that has invaded their system, they have simply destroyed themselves. When their body is almost through and past the point of no return, is when the infections start. But mainstream won't tell you that. They won't come close to suggesting that people can't live in any fashion they want to without consequences. That is what the AMA is there for. To blow this up into a huge money maker. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 45720034 Australia 07/16/2020 08:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Not an optical microscope. You'd need an electron microscope, which is super expensive. That's convenient, isn't it? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78240704 I could have sworn I’ve heard on podcasts like crrow and threads here that state “ No AIDS virus has ever been isolated , only the behaviour of the cells and blood give the detection of a virus existing “ or something like that . I have read much on those theories as well. They haven't actually isolated the 'aids' virus, they just assume it is there because of certain antibodies in the blood. Another theory is 'aids' is the failure of the immune system due to the lifestyle of the people that are usually 'diagnosed' with it. if you follow the money trail, it becomes perfectly clear...just like everything else the AMA touches. The first time I heard about this was from Bob Tustin in 2012 |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 10375439 United Kingdom 07/16/2020 08:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Not an optical microscope. You'd need an electron microscope, which is super expensive. That's convenient, isn't it? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78240704 Even Then its a guessing game I declare the governor of Georgia guilty of crimes against humanity. Quoting: OkieOzarkGrandmother He is banning local governments from passing local required mask ordinances. He will have blood on his hands just like potus. extreme evil Extreme evil is forcing oxygen depletion on human beings And you are a flamer for thinking doing that is right. Truly They lawless kings of the earth be all very lawless wot u expect Thread: Babylon's gay vs straight marriage rituals - any difference? |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 45720034 Australia 07/16/2020 08:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.researchgate.net (secure)] Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71594995 After years spent wading through the minutiae of AIDS science, I now find myself very close to believing the truly astounding — that the virus known as HIV, which has sucked up billions of our research dollars and tied up laboratories the world over, does not exist. This possibility — devastating in its implications — came to me here in London, courtesy of a number of mind-blowing interviews with renegade scientists who believe that HIV is not really a microbiological entity, but merely a collection of signals caused by stresses on the immune system. If this is true, every assumption about AIDS testing and treatment gets thrown to the wind. I was having a convo with a friend last night, and when I mentioned it he disagreed and after the phone call he texted me this . Neither of us are scientists. [link to www.verywellhealth.com (secure)] But he is anti “ conspiracy “ and doesn’t understand the concept of scientism . |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 45720034 Australia 07/16/2020 08:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Not an optical microscope. You'd need an electron microscope, which is super expensive. That's convenient, isn't it? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78240704 I could have sworn I’ve heard on podcasts like crrow and threads here that state “ No AIDS virus has ever been isolated , only the behaviour of the cells and blood give the detection of a virus existing “ or something like that . I have read much on those theories as well. They haven't actually isolated the 'aids' virus, they just assume it is there because of certain antibodies in the blood. Another theory is 'aids' is the failure of the immune system due to the lifestyle of the people that are usually 'diagnosed' with it. if you follow the money trail, it becomes perfectly clear...just like everything else the AMA touches. The first time I heard about this was from Bob Tustin in 2012 *tuskin |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 71594995 United States 07/16/2020 08:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I was having a convo with a friend last night, and when I mentioned it he disagreed and after the phone call he texted me this . Neither of us are scientists. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45720034 [link to www.verywellhealth.com (secure)] But he is anti “ conspiracy “ and doesn’t understand the concept of scientism . but if you read that article, they cleverly try to claim they have isolated and photo'd a HIV cell. pure BS again. HIV stands for human immunodeficiency virus. They tie the damaged T cells directly to AIDs, and probably soon the most recent virus. they are taking the damaged T cell, which is simply a lymphocyte and possibly a controller or director of the overall bodies immune response. So they take a picture of a damaged or weak T cell and then claim it is HIV. morans. but look how many believe them without ever lifting an eyelid to research. but but but .... billions have been spent ... but but but celebrities and fundraising and non profits and and and ..... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 71594995 United States 07/16/2020 08:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And the sad thing is, by the time people in the industry shed enough of their BS indoctrination that they realize this is a lie, they are fully ensnared within the web of the AMA. The money. The lifestyle. The commanded respect for having a slip of paper. They will never rock the boat. They just sell their souls for the material. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 45720034 Australia 07/16/2020 08:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It’s been said many times , including myself last night . But that’s me being lazy , I shouldn’t have said it without having proper citations of research, all I have is here say . Is there a link to a science journal that says such a thing , or is it just scientists and doctors that are speaking out against the status quo ? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 71594995 United States 07/16/2020 09:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It’s been said many times , including myself last night . But that’s me being lazy , I shouldn’t have said it without having proper citations of research, all I have is here say . Is there a link to a science journal that says such a thing , or is it just scientists and doctors that are speaking out against the status quo ? hahahahahahaha, mainstream science? allowing someone to actually get past their peer review boards and publish in a medical journal? hahahahahahahahaha....sorry OP that is how they play the game. it is just like a religion. you would be far better off to just believe what you will, what you discover and what you need to complete your view of what this reality is without giving a fuck what others think. sometimes the arguments or discussions pass the time and sometimes they are simply not worth the effort with some people. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 45720034 Australia 07/16/2020 09:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I was having a convo with a friend last night, and when I mentioned it he disagreed and after the phone call he texted me this . Neither of us are scientists. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45720034 [link to www.verywellhealth.com (secure)] But he is anti “ conspiracy “ and doesn’t understand the concept of scientism . but if you read that article, they cleverly try to claim they have isolated and photo'd a HIV cell. pure BS again. HIV stands for human immunodeficiency virus. They tie the damaged T cells directly to AIDs, and probably soon the most recent virus. they are taking the damaged T cell, which is simply a lymphocyte and possibly a controller or director of the overall bodies immune response. So they take a picture of a damaged or weak T cell and then claim it is HIV. morans. but look how many believe them without ever lifting an eyelid to research. but but but .... billions have been spent ... but but but celebrities and fundraising and non profits and and and ..... Yes I saw that , and the photo of hpv looks fake . A blue background ? The HIV virus photos were all of infected cells , not the isolated virus . |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77978468 United States 07/16/2020 09:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I thought I had seen plenty of threads and much discussion about it here but can’t find them . If anyone can link them that would be great , thanks ! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45720034 under high power electron microscopes... understand they are seen by that because they are electromagnetic in nature. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 71594995 United States 07/16/2020 09:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes I saw that , and the photo of hpv looks fake . A blue background ? The HIV virus photos were all of infected cells , not the isolated virus . Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45720034 that is what I believe at least. They have never shown an image of the AIDs virus, just the damaged system of the body and then claim to know why those cells are damaged in the way they are. they can't even get our food pyramid correct. they intentionally lie so we will eat shit franken foods..make us sick on the front end and treat us on the back end, making gobs of money in both directions. but this is all my not so humble opinion. I just get pissed off at this stuff and how easily they control us. sorry for any rudeness. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 45720034 Australia 07/16/2020 09:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It’s been said many times , including myself last night . But that’s me being lazy , I shouldn’t have said it without having proper citations of research, all I have is here say . Is there a link to a science journal that says such a thing , or is it just scientists and doctors that are speaking out against the status quo ? hahahahahahaha, mainstream science? allowing someone to actually get past their peer review boards and publish in a medical journal? hahahahahahahahaha....sorry OP that is how they play the game. it is just like a religion. you would be far better off to just believe what you will, what you discover and what you need to complete your view of what this reality is without giving a fuck what others think. sometimes the arguments or discussions pass the time and sometimes they are simply not worth the effort with some people. Ahhh worth a shot . Thanks for the wise words . I really don’t know why I give a fuck, it is a waste of time trying to convince a normie. I just wanted to respond to his text with some kind of weight . He will never understand that scientists who disagree with the norm / go against the grain lose funding, don’t get published, and in some cases get whacked . |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 45720034 Australia 07/16/2020 09:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes I saw that , and the photo of hpv looks fake . A blue background ? The HIV virus photos were all of infected cells , not the isolated virus . Quoting: Anonymous Coward 45720034 that is what I believe at least. They have never shown an image of the AIDs virus, just the damaged system of the body and then claim to know why those cells are damaged in the way they are. they can't even get our food pyramid correct. they intentionally lie so we will eat shit franken foods..make us sick on the front end and treat us on the back end, making gobs of money in both directions. but this is all my not so humble opinion. I just get pissed off at this stuff and how easily they control us. sorry for any rudeness. That wasn’t rude , I appreciate your post . |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 72457044 United States 07/16/2020 09:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Not an optical microscope. You'd need an electron microscope, which is super expensive. That's convenient, isn't it? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78240704 If you have electronic engineering experience you can build an electron microscope for about 1k and 1000 man hours. There are walkthroughs on the web. |