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User ID: 78837215 United States 07/19/2020 01:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | YAHUWAH is a man of war: YAHUWAH is His Name. Hebrew 'iysh' Man Numbers 23:19 God is not a man, that he should lie; neither the Son of Man, that He should repent: hath He said, and shall He not do it? or hath He spoken, and shall He not make it good? Where is the verse that says that God can not take upon flesh and come in the likeness of man. No prophecy of scripture is of any private interpretation. Meaning you can't wrestle a verse out of the whole of scripture and interpret it however you choose. God is not a Liar like the OP He does what He says. Numbers 23:19 Last Edited by 232 on 07/19/2020 01:49 PM Baruch HaShem YESHUA ~ Melekh ha Olam |
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User ID: 77861487 United States 07/19/2020 01:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The answer to the original question was answered. You should research the First Council of Nicene. I think most of your questions in this particular are of the Bible would be answered. As for the anonymous comments. Let's review Proverbs 26:3 in the KJV of the Bible. A whip for the horse, a bridle for the ass, and a rod for the fool's back. The Bible has answers, you just need to know the right questions. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 78566091 United States 07/19/2020 01:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Exodus 15:3 Quoting: 232 YAHUWAH is a man of war: YAHUWAH is His Name. Hebrew 'iysh' Man Numbers 23:19 God is not a man, that he should lie; neither the Son of Man, that He should repent: hath He said, and shall He not do it? or hath He spoken, and shall He not make it good? Where is the verse that says that God can not take upon flesh and come in the likeness of man. No prophecy of scripture is of any private interpretation. Meaning you can't wrestle a verse out of the whole of scripture and interpret it however you choose. God is not a Liar like the OP He does what He says. Numbers 23:19 Where did I lie? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77978468 United States 07/19/2020 01:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Question, if Jesus was in the beginning and created all things seen and unseen...was he a human then? Was Jesus a human before he was born of virgin Mary? For the Word became flesh. I don't see anything that says in the beginning he was flesh. Quoting: Yeti Habanero Numbers 23:19 God is not a man, that he should lie; neither the son of man, that he should repent: hath he said, and shall he not do it? or hath he spoken, and shall he not make it good? No Jesus was not there since the beginning trillions and trillions of years ago... Jesus was the Incarnation of Nebadon's creator son... Michael...Who is returned. 2nd person Trinity is not Jesus and never was... it is eternal spirit in a short nutshelll. The creation is massive and only SOME of it.. shows on our telescopes. Thank you for questioning...:Love to you 2: The creator sons of the creation.. there are now about 900,000 of them... are Sons of the FATHER and THE SON... 2 Timothy 1:9 Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began, Colossians 1:16 King James Version 16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him: Christ Michael of nebadon created OUR particular universe...Your bible has many errors in it and is NOT PROOF OF ANYTHING. The ORIGINAL TRINITY is the CREATOR OF THE ENTIRE CREATION. Which has 5.6 TRILLION planets with Humans... and Humans are co creators . |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 78566091 United States 07/19/2020 01:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The answer to the original question was answered. You should research the First Council of Nicene. I think most of your questions in this particular are of the Bible would be answered. Quoting: Hinky As for the anonymous comments. Let's review Proverbs 26:3 in the KJV of the Bible. A whip for the horse, a bridle for the ass, and a rod for the fool's back. The Bible has answers, you just need to know the right questions. I asked the question while knowing the answer. It was to spark a debate. Some use the verse in the original post to try and convince others that Jesus is not God since he is a man. Jesus is clearly God made flesh. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 78566091 United States 07/19/2020 01:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Question, if Jesus was in the beginning and created all things seen and unseen...was he a human then? Was Jesus a human before he was born of virgin Mary? For the Word became flesh. I don't see anything that says in the beginning he was flesh. Quoting: Yeti Habanero Numbers 23:19 God is not a man, that he should lie; neither the son of man, that he should repent: hath he said, and shall he not do it? or hath he spoken, and shall he not make it good? No Jesus was not there since the beginning trillions and trillions of years ago... Jesus was the Incarnation of Nebadon's creator son... Michael...Who is returned. 2nd person Trinity is not Jesus and never was... it is eternal spirit in a short nutshelll. The creation is massive and only SOME of it.. shows on our telescopes. Thank you for questioning...:Love to you 2: The creator sons of the creation.. there are now about 900,000 of them... are Sons of the FATHER and THE SON... 2 Timothy 1:9 Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began, Colossians 1:16 King James Version 16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him: Christ Michael of nebadon created OUR particular universe...Your bible has many errors in it and is NOT PROOF OF ANYTHING. The ORIGINAL TRINITY is the CREATOR OF THE ENTIRE CREATION. Which has 5.6 TRILLION planets with Humans... and Humans are co creators . Yeah, I don't want to talk to you. If I do you will just spread more nonsense. 2 Timothy 2:14 Of these things put them in remembrance, charging them before the Lord that they strive not about words to no profit, but to the subverting of the hearers. |
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User ID: 78837215 United States 07/19/2020 01:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Exodus 15:3 Quoting: 232 YAHUWAH is a man of war: YAHUWAH is His Name. Hebrew 'iysh' Man Numbers 23:19 God is not a man, that he should lie; neither the Son of Man, that He should repent: hath He said, and shall He not do it? or hath He spoken, and shall He not make it good? Where is the verse that says that God can not take upon flesh and come in the likeness of man. No prophecy of scripture is of any private interpretation. Meaning you can't wrestle a verse out of the whole of scripture and interpret it however you choose. God is not a Liar like the OP He does what He says. Numbers 23:19 Where did I lie? My apologies for not reading the whole thread, Usually when someone uses this verse it is to deny the deity of YESHUA I was foolish by answering without examining. Baruch HaShem YESHUA ~ Melekh ha Olam |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 78566091 United States 07/19/2020 01:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Exodus 15:3 Quoting: 232 YAHUWAH is a man of war: YAHUWAH is His Name. Hebrew 'iysh' Man Numbers 23:19 God is not a man, that he should lie; neither the Son of Man, that He should repent: hath He said, and shall He not do it? or hath He spoken, and shall He not make it good? Where is the verse that says that God can not take upon flesh and come in the likeness of man. No prophecy of scripture is of any private interpretation. Meaning you can't wrestle a verse out of the whole of scripture and interpret it however you choose. God is not a Liar like the OP He does what He says. Numbers 23:19 Where did I lie? My apologies for not reading the whole thread, Usually when someone uses this verse it is to deny the deity of YESHUA I was foolish by answering without examining. I am glad you believe Jesus is God. There is hope for those who do. |
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User ID: 75923721 United States 07/19/2020 01:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | NOPE. michael of nebadon is one of satan's many names. there is only 1 christ, 1 saviour, 1 messiah, and that is Jesus....the only begotten son of GOD. trinity is: GOD the Father, Only begotten son Jesus, holy spirit. humans are NOT co-creators. Humans have created exactly nothing. The creation was done by GOD the Father and him alone. |
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Pandora User ID: 79139945 Canada 07/19/2020 09:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The 'men' alive for the 1,000 years are immortals like angels yet are still called men. When men can enter the angels perfected heaven (Mount Sion) and stay there as there are perfected beings will they still be called men?? |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 78566091 United States 07/21/2020 10:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The 'men' alive for the 1,000 years are immortals like angels yet are still called men. When men can enter the angels perfected heaven (Mount Sion) and stay there as there are perfected beings will they still be called men?? Quoting: Pandora 79139945 God is the only immortal. I believe his children are immortal because his immortal Spirit dwells within them. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78824582 Puerto Rico 07/21/2020 11:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Question, if Jesus was in the beginning and created all things seen and unseen...was he a human then? Was Jesus a human before he was born of virgin Mary? For the Word became flesh. I don't see anything that says in the beginning he was flesh. Quoting: Yeti Habanero Numbers 23:19 God is not a man, that he should lie; neither the son of man, that he should repent: hath he said, and shall he not do it? or hath he spoken, and shall he not make it good? You mean god did not have a penis ? that is alike the chicken and the egg being first ...... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79172128 United States 07/21/2020 11:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | PHILIPPIANS 2 5 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: 6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: 7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men: 8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross. 9 Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name: 10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; 11 And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79172128 United States 07/21/2020 11:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | WHO IS JESUS? JOHN 1 1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 The same was in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. 4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men. 5 And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not. 6 There was a man sent from God, whose name was John. 7 The same came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all men through him might believe. 8 He was not that Light, but was sent to bear witness of that Light. 9 That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world. 10 He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not. 11 He came unto his own, and his own received him not. 12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: 13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God. 14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth. WHERE IS JESUS NOW? 1 JOHN 5 7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are ONE. WHAT DOES GOD THE FATHER SAY ABOUT HIS SON? HEBREWS 1 1 God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets, 2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds; 3 Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high: 4 Being made so much better than the angels, as he hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they. 5 For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son? 6 And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him. 7 And of the angels he saith, Who maketh his angels spirits, and his ministers a flame of fire. 8 But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom. 9 Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; therefore God, even thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows. 10 And, Thou, Lord, in the beginning hast laid the foundation of the earth; and the heavens are the works of thine hands: 11 They shall perish; but thou remainest; and they all shall wax old as doth a garment; 12 And as a vesture shalt thou fold them up, and they shall be changed: but thou art the same, and thy years shall not fail. 13 But to which of the angels said he at any time, Sit on my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool? 14 Are they not all ministering spirits, sent forth to minister for them who shall be heirs of salvation? Jesus Christ sits right this very minute, NEXT TO God the Father. He is glorified in Heaven. He is God Almighty, Seek Him before it is eternally too late. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78218631 United States 07/21/2020 12:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Human means to be born of humanKIND. Therefore Jesus was not HUMAN but humanOID since man was made in HIS (PENIS!) image. The Creator, God, is a HOLY SPIRIT, and it FIRST begot a humanOID body for itself, not born of man but BEGOTTEN of God, made of LIGHT, called the Holy Ghost. The Holy Spirit in the Holy Ghost entered into the womb of the virgin Mary and was born a huMAN. Father God Creator Holy Spirit in the only begotten Holy Ghost Christ (body of God) in the Son of God. 3 main aspects of 1 God in 1 God = 1 God with 3 main aspects but infinite aspects actually. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 75311439 United States 07/21/2020 12:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "The Mystery of our Lord and Saviour, Jesus Christ," ...who entered upon his mission as the Redeemer from the day Melchizedek met Abram returning from the slaughter of the kings. This is the revelation of the Apostle Paul. One must understand the Messiah, before one can understand God. The Messiah is the beginning of the creation of God, and the beginning of the Kingdom of God; hence the creation and preparation of a body for the Word of God, which Word has been ordained as Messiah and King. This body (see Col. i. 15-18; Rev. iii 14) is the first-born of every creature, the very beginning of the creation of God, and is pure and unblemishable; hence Satan cannot touch this body, for it is created pure, and it ever will be kept pure. This body (see Col. i. 18) has the pre-eminence is all things; wherefore it must be the tangible foundation, base, and building that constitutes the tangible Kingdom of God, as pertaining to the living creature (see Eph. ii. 18, 22), that shall endure forever; hence immortality pertains to this body. [link to nemesis8.com (secure)] |
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User ID: 78779018 Mexico 07/21/2020 12:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 1. Then why is "God head of Christ just as Christ is head of man"? (1 Cor. 11:3) 2. Then why does Scripture consistently phrase Jesus as a separate person from God? (John 20:17; John 14:1; Mark 10:18; John 17:1-3; etc. Also in heaven, 1 Cor. 11:3; Luke 22:69; etc.) 3. Then how can Jesus have a God? Could Almighty God have a God? (Mic. 5:4; Ps. 45:6, 7; 89:26; John 20:17; Rom. 15:6; 2 Cor. 1:3; Eph 1:3; Col 1:3; Mark 15:34; John 17:1-3; Also in heaven, Rev. 1:6; 3:2, 12) |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 77978468 United States 07/21/2020 09:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If Jesus is Almighty God... Quoting: Hobgoblin238 1. Then why is "God head of Christ just as Christ is head of man"? (1 Cor. 11:3) 2. Then why does Scripture consistently phrase Jesus as a separate person from God? (John 20:17; John 14:1; Mark 10:18; John 17:1-3; etc. Also in heaven, 1 Cor. 11:3; Luke 22:69; etc.) 3. Then how can Jesus have a God? Could Almighty God have a God? (Mic. 5:4; Ps. 45:6, 7; 89:26; John 20:17; Rom. 15:6; 2 Cor. 1:3; Eph 1:3; Col 1:3; Mark 15:34; John 17:1-3; Also in heaven, Rev. 1:6; 3:2, 12) Because Jesus was the INCARNATION of Michael of NEBADON.. NEBADON"S Creator Son... The Creator Sons are sons of the Father and Son. Nice question.. thankyou for pondering the situation. |
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User ID: 75923721 United States 07/21/2020 09:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Because Jesus was the INCARNATION of Michael of NEBADON.. NEBADON"S Creator Son... The Creator Sons are sons of the Father and Son. NOPE. michael of nebadon is one of satan's many names. and the multiple sons of wicked and evil urantia cult are FAKE, FAKE FAKE This is Jesus: John 3:16- For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him shall not perish, but have everlasting life |
Pandora User ID: 79139945 Canada 07/23/2020 09:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ge:1 explains that God and the Holy Sprite were the model used for Adam and Eve to be created as a married couple. The witness of creation by Chris is in the 2nd half of Proverbs:8. Jesus was born to Mary so He could rightly be called the 'seed of Eve' from Ge:3:15. God then changed the law from the one in Re:21 to the 10 Commandments for the period of time it would take to complete both of the bruises in that verse. The family tree in the Gospel of Luke is that of Mary's fathers and it goes back to Adam and that means Christ alone was the High Priest to God from Adam to Moses. By making an 'immortal' an 'mortal man' God could 'kill him' and that would mean that is the same fate Satan would face. The Re:21 laws come back at the start of the 1,000 year reign and death under that set of Laws is eternity in the fiery lake. |
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