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Forum Moderator User ID: 76014573 United States 07/30/2020 09:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | DO NOT FOLLOW MY ADVICE.. cure Covid? Ivermectin Or Ionosphore + zinc. Ionosphore= Green Tea Quercitin Chichona bark tea Qiinine etc. many cure and protect yourself from this weak ass lame cold bug. For those who believe, no proof is necessary. For those who don't believe, no proof is possible. (Stuart Chase) It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled. (Mark Twain) |
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User ID: 79185887 United States 07/30/2020 09:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: ~Sloane~ Trump is personally financially invested in the company (as well as his top campaign donors) that makes hydroxychloroquine. And he's not a doctor. So when he posts, or his son posts supporting and pushing the drug - come on, seriously, you get it. "personally financially invested"? Should be easy to supply tat link Sure. But common knowledge in the medical community since he first started on about it. Dang just tried to post articles from two credible sources and *not allowed*. Anyway, you can confirm without too much effort. Trump as well top Republican campaign donors. And ask yourself why else would he be pushing it for the last several months? Because he's a medical expert and cares about us? I don't think so. X9000 Can you put into words? Which part do you believe is bullshit or is it all bullshit? That Trump and Don Jr are not medical experts and have no business pushing any drug? That Trump cares about you? That he is not financially invested in the pharma company that makes the drug he keeps pushing? And that major Republican campaign donors are not heavily invested in same company? Anyway Fluffy - I wish how you see it was true. I really do. p.s. the *common knowledge in medical community* comment came from attending a meeting around four months ago at a V.A. hospital. Where we were all informed. A Veterans Admin Hospital! After I left the meeting, I checked it out, to be sure. Last Edited by ~Sloane~ on 07/30/2020 10:10 PM |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 78979734 United States 07/30/2020 09:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 1) When you just acquire it and it is mild 2) When your own systems and organs turn toxic and wage war against you (ICU state) For 1, yes HCQ works wonders - because it allows to transfer through into the cell and carry the oxygen in hemoglobins For 2, no it won't work because the other systems are at critical stage and other avenues need to be investigated. The reason why they put out a fake study saying HCQ does NOT work was for phase 2 patients. Which of course is true but MSM and Big Pharma want to embellish that and hide the fact it is phase 2 patients. The frontlinedoctors who 99% of the COVID patients face - can be treated and will be cured with HCQ, Plus the fact that Trump promoted HCQ quite early and they don't want to credit Trump with anything during the election year. So What if a few grannies and grandpas died in their fake process anyway - it is about gaining control! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78979734 United States 07/30/2020 09:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There are two phases for this illness Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78979734 1) When you just acquire it and it is mild 2) When your own systems and organs turn toxic and wage war against you (ICU state) For 1, yes HCQ works wonders - because it allows ZINC to transfer through into the cell and carry much needed oxygen. For 2, no it won't work because the other systems are at critical stage and other avenues need to be investigated. The reason why they put out a fake study saying HCQ does NOT work was for phase 2 patients. Which of course is true but MSM and Big Pharma want to embellish that and hide the fact it is phase 2 patients. The frontlinedoctors who 99% of the COVID patients face - can be treated and will be cured with HCQ, Plus the fact that Trump promoted HCQ quite early and they don't want to credit Trump with anything during the election year. So What if a few grannies and grandpas died in their fake process anyway - it is about gaining control! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 73398970 United States 07/30/2020 09:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think it is highly likely. Quoting: Fluffy Pancakes The way the medical industrial complex is attacking HCQ is inexcusable. And they're doing it solely to try to capitalize on the high cost of new drugs and a vaccine that won't work. There are a number of natural plants high in chloroquine. Wormwood, cinchona, and even kratom. But the issue with using these as prophylaxis against Covid is there is nothing standardized, so it's guesswork. I can personally verify that 100mg of artemisinin along with zinc per day is not a sufficient amount of prevention. Perhaps double or triple that would do it. I know it helped as symptoms were very slow in manifesting, but it wasn't a strong enough prophylaxis. HCQ should be OTC. You're darn right it should be OTC. Now it's practically banned because of political/media pressure. I wish I would have known about this stuff years ago so I wouldn't have had to suffer through some of those colds/flus that turned into pneumonia. Shit scarred my lungs. |
Pulse Code User ID: 62347677 United States 07/30/2020 09:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why not bring this closer to home? If Hydroxychloroquine kills cancer, I suspect that it is the "chloro" component responsible. Oxygen destroys cancer safely and all diseases provided it is dosed properly in the body and Herxheimer's response is monitored. This is why some folks seek alternative treatments out of the country like like blood purification and whole body detoxing with Ozone therapy, food grade hydrogen peroxide and MMS or Sodium Chlorite- which I just bought more of today on e-Bay. It's all oxygen people... and apparently- it's not patentable. These whack jobs asking in reference to MMS "Why would you put industrial bleach in your body"? don't get it at all. What do you think is in your tap water? Is THAT safe to drink having been treated with industrial bleach like chloramine (chlorine bonded with ammonia) and some added fluoride for good measure? Sodium chlorite safely and effectively kills off all questionable critters in your outdoor drinking water with oxygen and is not banned by the FDA because it is perfectly safe. In fact, Sodium chlorite is the only bleaching agent approved of by the FDA for safe use on food contact surfaces. I have used it for over ten years without a hiccup and helped many people along the way. But, again- if you are going to play doctor on yourself you should educate yourself first and understand the risk/ reward factor. |
Pilgrim001
User ID: 78018011 United States 07/30/2020 10:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm not sure about the anti-cancer properties, but the common ground of the listed compounds is about getting more zinc into our cells. It's not just about not having a shortage of zinc in our bodies, but the Ionophore compounds drive more zinc into our cells than would naturally be there in a normal, well nourished human. That, in itself, ;might be anti-cancer. Yes, I think we are onto something that they don't want us to find out. But. Here is a conundrum, little kids don't get covid19, but they continually drag every cold and flu known to man home with them from school, on an almost weekly or monthly basis. Last Edited by Bennder on 07/30/2020 10:12 PM Communism is for LOSERS Communism is SLAVERY Fuck Joe Biden |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 41948675 United States 07/30/2020 10:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sure. But common knowledge in the medical community since he first started on about it. Dang just tried to post articles from two credible sources and *not allowed*. Anyway, you can confirm without too much effort. Trump as well top Republican campaign donors. And ask yourself why else would he be pushing it for the last several months? Because he's a medical expert and cares about us? I don't think so. X9000 Can you put into words? Which part do you believe is bullshit or is it all bullshit? That Trump and Don Jr are not medical experts and have no business pushing any drug? That Trump cares about you? That he is not financially invested in the pharma company that makes the drug he keeps pushing? And that major Republican campaign donors are not heavily invested in same company? Anyway Fluffy - I wish how you see it was true. I really do. Hydroxychloroquine has been around for a long time and it’s cheap. Trump was taking the drug because it was prescribed to him. Of course, we all want to return to normal and it’s necessary!! If this drug has been used successfully on patients, then why not continue to use it? No, because Trump promotes it? Ridiculous. |
Jake
User ID: 77849624 United States 07/30/2020 10:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Jamie Dimon "There is not profit in curing cancer" Evil controls the ignorant... Climate change is a hoax so is the vax you have been fear-porned into compliance! Definition Satan from the bible: Satan (Rev 12:7) exercising his subtle (indirect) impact on heathen governments (powers) – i.e. accomplishing his hellish agenda from "behind the scenes." |
Jake
User ID: 77849624 United States 07/30/2020 10:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hydroxychloroquine is not just a antiviral it is also an Immunomodulator. Yes it is probably very helpful with cancer.. there are many cancers caused by a virus. Evil controls the ignorant... Climate change is a hoax so is the vax you have been fear-porned into compliance! Definition Satan from the bible: Satan (Rev 12:7) exercising his subtle (indirect) impact on heathen governments (powers) – i.e. accomplishing his hellish agenda from "behind the scenes." |
Mercury Phoenix
User ID: 77727178 United States 07/30/2020 10:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quinine is used for cancer, and Pau D'Arco which contains quinoids, and has been tested on lab animals, anti cancer. Quoting: Sungaze_At_Dawn So I imagine there would be a rather strong coalition. Apparently wormwood also used for cancer treatments contains quinoids. Black walnut. Now black walnut and wormwood are often combined in an expensive tincture for cancer. Another anti cancer agent, cannabinoids, also contain quinine. So pot basically, both thc and cbd. Don't forget Apricot pits--source of Laetrile. The eagle never lost so much time, as when he submitted to learn of the crow. |
Mercury Phoenix
User ID: 77727178 United States 07/30/2020 10:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Look at the Cancer rates in countries where HCQ is commonly used Quoting: We Are Slaves If i recall correctly there has been scientific research indicating that cancer is more akin to a virus (as theorized) than what we are led to believe and if that is accurate, then HCQ could potentially logically be a cure This would certainly explain the war against HCQ and anything HCQ related. Or maybe it counters vaccine dna damage (Cancer, etc.)...remember all those docs that were murdered a couple years ago? (I understand that correlation does not imply causation, but lets see where this goes) Great catch. A lot of cancer is "fungal" and HCQ is a fungal fog cutter. The eagle never lost so much time, as when he submitted to learn of the crow. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 73112757 United States 07/30/2020 10:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | To all you shills that say Trump and Jr are invested in the company that makes HCQ and that is why they promote it. You are all fools. If you just did five minutes of research you would find that HCQ has been around for more that 40 years and thus it is no longer under patent control by one company. Any certified drug maker can make it and that is why it cost just 10 cents per pill on average. Trump will not become rich if we all started taking it to end this lock down clown world insanity. Big Pharma on the other hand will lose on their big scam killgates vaccine. Tell me have they ever created a vaccine that killed off the flu virus? Tell me have they ever created a vaccine that killed off cancer? HCQ with zinc is a savior for all who wish to be saved. Shills must and will die and we all taking HCQ will live on in a world free of Shills spewing shit holes. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 51891917 United States 07/30/2020 10:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes, one should not just take something without doing some research into dosage and all, but from what i understand, this possible side effect affects a very tiny percentage of people with specific conditions. before it became a generic it was called Plaquenil. it sounds like it could eat through teeth. That's because you're retarded. |
Stoidi User ID: 77046882 United States 07/30/2020 10:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Me too, I can take a deeper breath since I started it with zinc. This is a great thread OP, been wondering about that myself. If it is the combo of the hydroxychloroquine and zinc. Because the Quercetin and zinc is so helpful. Cancer is a virus, they gave us viruses from so many sources. The maps are telling and you may be onto something. Thank you for sharing this. Even the Idiots are wondering because the clamp down and disinformation. So many studies were done so poorly and there are so many good stories. It has to be early, before hospitalization. Cancer has been such heart break as well as an industry......it would be good to find any help. Human suffering is an industry that be a “silent war” For profit. This disease is crippling a Nation and redistributing wealth. Businesses closed, bankrupted and many can not return. Churches, Temples and Mosques closed, the resources we provide being Scattered and shattered. Stay safe. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 75267886 United States 07/30/2020 10:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | To all you shills that say Trump and Jr are invested in the company that makes HCQ and that is why they promote it. You are all fools. If you just did five minutes of research you would find that HCQ has been around for more that 40 years and thus it is no longer under patent control by one company. Any certified drug maker can make it and that is why it cost just 10 cents per pill on average. Trump will not become rich if we all started taking it to end this lock down clown world insanity. Big Pharma on the other hand will lose on their big scam killgates vaccine. Tell me have they ever created a vaccine that killed off the flu virus? Tell me have they ever created a vaccine that killed off cancer? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73112757 HCQ with zinc is a savior for all who wish to be saved. Shills must and will die and we all taking HCQ will live on in a world free of Shills spewing shit holes. While I agree with what you said, ultimately your argument is stupid. And here's why: True, its no longer under patent. However, you fail to disclose how many drug manufacturers produce this drug and at what volume. Here's a hint: not many |
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User ID: 77046882 United States 07/30/2020 11:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm not sure about the anti-cancer properties, but the common ground of the listed compounds is about getting more zinc into our cells. It's not just about not having a shortage of zinc in our bodies, but the Ionophore compounds drive more zinc into our cells than would naturally be there in a normal, well nourished human. That, in itself, ;might be anti-cancer. Yes, I think we are onto something that they don't want us to find out. Quoting: Pilgrim001 But. Here is a conundrum, little kids don't get covid19, but they continually drag every cold and flu known to man home with them from school, on an almost weekly or monthly basis. Because my Grandson came up I hugged him and he told me excitedly that he couldn’t smell. That night his Mother took him to urgent care for pink eye. That was followed by an ear infection..... As a Respiratory Therapist I was exposed to everything but the worst things I ever got was from Kids. Yes the zinc is the thing, getting it into the cells. There is something there. But the Hydroxychloroquine is what they attacked. One back turns in parting to turn and turn again. Leaving is never going, its circling round the bend. |
Fluffy Pancakes
User ID: 37430969 United States 07/30/2020 11:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sure. But common knowledge in the medical community since he first started on about it. Dang just tried to post articles from two credible sources and *not allowed*. Anyway, you can confirm without too much effort. Trump as well top Republican campaign donors. And ask yourself why else would he be pushing it for the last several months? Because he's a medical expert and cares about us? I don't think so. X9000 Can you put into words? Which part do you believe is bullshit or is it all bullshit? That Trump and Don Jr are not medical experts and have no business pushing any drug? That Trump cares about you? That he is not financially invested in the pharma company that makes the drug he keeps pushing? And that major Republican campaign donors are not heavily invested in same company? Anyway Fluffy - I wish how you see it was true. I really do. p.s. the *common knowledge in medical community* comment came from attending a meeting around four months ago at a V.A. hospital. Where we were all informed. A Veterans Admin Hospital! After I left the meeting, I checked it out, to be sure. Sorry. On my phone which isn't an Obamaphone, but doesn't work better than one of those. Simple point really. Patent is expired. Any pharmaceutical formulary company can make hydroxychloroquine. There's no money in it. Maybe a dime a dose. As opposed to things like remdesivir at about 3k per treatment. Things are bad enough, there is no need to make anything up. ~Fluffy "Never interrupt an enemy in the process of destroying himself." Quercitin and zinc...Get it. Take it. Visit howbad.info...If you took the shot, for sure. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 71898602 United States 07/30/2020 11:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Look at the Cancer rates in countries where HCQ is commonly used Quoting: We Are Slaves If i recall correctly there has been scientific research indicating that cancer is more akin to a virus (as theorized) than what we are led to believe and if that is accurate, then HCQ could potentially logically be a cure This would certainly explain the war against HCQ and anything HCQ related. Or maybe it counters vaccine dna damage (Cancer, etc.)...remember all those docs that were murdered a couple years ago? (I understand that correlation does not imply causation, but lets see where this goes) :malaria_med: :cancer_med: :cancer_rates: Most simply, anything that causes death of a weak, sickly deformed cell "cures" cancer? Selection is made based on cancer types and locations, severity and the strength of the patient. You great tough dumb brutes that can take hammered on all day? I'm pretty sure every health problem of yours can be cured by garlic and black pepper? Its the most afflicted, weak, poisoned, allergic, sensitive and fragile patient that you have to get creative with. That's why they're never sick and if something is wrong, like chasing a cow around a yard to get to let fix anything. Things work "typically" because they are too poisonous for the weak cells but can't get the good ones. Toxic because of acid or base or a kind of chemical "suffocation" and the more things that are effective in covid, when elderberry really wasn't, just makes more perked up ears wonder that much more.....is it just a resiatant bacteria cultured in a lethal fungus? Is anything but "airborne aids" true? Anyway - I like cancer gone FAST and patients feeling GOOD. I can kill it faster, but it doesn't do much to gas them back up. Pancreatic is scary and use no frills total stomp Others not so much and use Superman walk & hunch the world formula, that just takes a month. Guess which is most chosen. Quinine is used for cancer, and Pau D'Arco which contains quinoids, and has been tested on lab animals, anti cancer. Quoting: Sungaze_At_Dawn So I imagine there would be a rather strong coalition. Apparently wormwood also used for cancer treatments contains quinoids. Black walnut. Now black walnut and wormwood are often combined in an expensive tincture for cancer. (not by the god men they stold it from) Another anti cancer agent, cannabinoids, also contain quinine. So pot basically, both thc and cbd. "....that they might drink more fully; that they might understand this; and walk less blindly in the wonderful works of God" |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 75267886 United States 07/30/2020 11:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Before Trump claimed HCQ was a cure, I'd like the following known: -HCQ was essentially discontinued in the late 60's. The parasite that causes malaria became resistant to it -I'm not sure where these graphs of HCQ are even coming from. Again, while HCQ is still widely used, it is the least preferred drug in these countries as it is no longer effective -The majority of the "mainstream" use has been relegated to off-label use, such as in Lupus -Why does HCQ work in Lupus? This isn't fully known. Most drug methods of action aren't clearly understood. What we do know is that it impairs the immune system. Every auto immune disease treated with pharmaceuticals does so by negatively impacting the immune system. HCQ appears to just make it function worse, so the damage to self is less -Lastly, HCQ is dangerous. It is well known in it's effects. The method at which it kills the parasite causing malaria at the same time poisons the RBC. The parasite dies before we do, akin to chemo. It is definitely dangerous and most "anti-pharma" folk have been fighting against it and its cousins since the WHO said it was safe so many years ago So why is HCQ being pushed? I'm not sure. There's little data showing anything either way but I will say, there is enough evidence for its use to warrant further studies - and at the least, NOT to prevent off-label use for Covid-19. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77683864 United States 07/30/2020 11:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Look up the average lifespan in the shitholes that have malaria, then look up the average age of cancer patients in say a country like the United States... Then when you feeble mind starts to make what is called cognitive reasoning get back to us all... Quoting: Box If only words were a costume - but at least you think you're thinking something. Thats a clik above emo the juvetard. "The official I'm sick of hearing things dumb as a quinoa, rehashing and arguing stupid HCQ yet again, for the 100th time post" |