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Court’s final ruling against Patreon opens legal avenue to defend against deplatforming

 
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NO HE DOES NOT

PAYPAL IS A PRIVATELY OWNED BUSINESS

NO ONE HAS A CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT TO PAYPAL

PAYPAL CAN SEVERE SERVICE TO ANYONE THEY WANT BECAUSE THEY ARE A PRIVATELY OWNED BUSINESS

SAME AS HOW GLP IS A PRIVATELY OWNED BUSINESS, AND HAS THE RIGHT TO BAN USERS
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77558496


Wrong, we used paypal to purchase a "goods and services" from GLP and we were denied access to paid membership for a brief period. Some even were charged after paypal severed ties.

GFY
 Quoting: Professional Amateur


AND WHERE IN PAYPAL'S TERMS OF SERVICE DOES IT SAY IT MUST OFFER SERVICES TO GLP?

PAYPAL SAW THE CESS POOL OF HATE AND RACISM THAT IS POSTED ON GLP DAILY AND SAID WE NO LONGER WISH TO DO BUSINESS WITH YOU.

THAT IS PAYPAL'S RIGHT AS A PRIVATE BUSINESS

IF PAYPAL WAS A REAL LIFE BRICK AND MORTAR STORE, AND TRINITY OR ANYOEN CAME IN AND STARTED TALKING RACIST OR HATEFUL SHIT, PAYPAL COULD HAVE TRINITY REMOVED OFF THEIR PRIVATE PROPERTY.

AND IF TRINITY REFUSED TO LEAVE, PAYPAL WOULD HAVE THE RIGHT TO CALL THE POLICE TO HAVE TRINITY REMOVED FROM THEIR PRIVATE PROERTY

THAT IS THE RIGHT OF PROPERTY OWNERS

YOU ALL SEEM TO THINK YOU OWN AND ARE ENTITLED TO PRIVATE BUSINESSES THAT YOU DO NOT MAINTAIN NOR BUILT BUT USE THEIR SERVICES
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77558496


Again, argue with the court, not me. Paypal is next on the arbitration block.
 Quoting: Professional Amateur



BUT YOU SUPPORT THE COMMUNIST POLICY OF TELLING PRIVATE BUSINESSES WHAT THEY CAN AND CANNOT DO ON THEIR PROPERTY

GOT IT

SO THAT MEANS THE GOVT CAN TELL TRINITY HE CAN NO LONGER BAN USERS BECAUSE HE AND HIS MODS WANT TO BECAUSE THEY DON'T LIKE WHAT CERTAIN USERS POST

THAT IS WHERE THIS IS HEADING....COMMUNISM... THAT STATES PROPERTY OWNERS DO NOT HAVE RIGHTS TO SECURE THEIR PRIVATE PROPERTY AND THAT CUSTOMERS HAVE MORE RIGHTS TO WHAT DOES NOT BELONG TO THEM

CONGRATS, YOU ALL ARE SLIPPING DOWN THE COMMUNIST HILL INTO TOTAL LOSS OF YOUR RIGHTS
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And even if you did have ban immunity, do you really have the freedom to speak that you PURCHASED if there is a secret word list that will result in your posts not posting?

Examine yourselves, your hypocrisy is noted.

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There are still terms which you must abide by, read them.
 Quoting: Professional Amateur


Are you stupid?

Read the disclaimer and shut the fuck up.

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Read the Terms of Use you fucking dick!
 Quoting: Professional Amateur


SAME AS PAYPAL OR PATREON OR YOUTUBE OR FACEBOOK

READ THE TERMS OF USE YOU FUCKING DICK
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There are still terms which you must abide by, read them.
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Are you stupid?

Read the disclaimer and shut the fuck up.

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Read the Terms of Use you fucking dick!
 Quoting: Professional Amateur


They are VOID by the disclaimer, you stupid piece of shit.

[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]

DON'T BELIEVE A DAMN WORD YOU READ ON THIS WEBSITE!

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79205875


You're an idiot, the legal language TRUMPS everything else you see there.

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The real question is why patreon, and not, twatter, facecrack, etc...
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because the cia owns those -
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Are you stupid?

Read the disclaimer and shut the fuck up.

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Read the Terms of Use you fucking dick!
 Quoting: Professional Amateur


They are VOID by the disclaimer, you stupid piece of shit.

[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]

DON'T BELIEVE A DAMN WORD YOU READ ON THIS WEBSITE!

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79205875


You're an idiot, the legal language TRUMPS everything else you see there.

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AND WHERE DOES IT SAY IN THE TERMS OF USE THAT MODS OF GLP CAN BAN ANYONE FOR CHALLENGING THEM? OR FOR TALKING ABOUT WHO OWNS GLP?
OR FOR EVEN MENTIONING THE COMPANY NAME ASSOCIATED WITH GLP?

WHERE IS THAT IN THE TERMS OF USE?
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Read the Terms of Use you fucking dick!
 Quoting: Professional Amateur


They are VOID by the disclaimer, you stupid piece of shit.

[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]

DON'T BELIEVE A DAMN WORD YOU READ ON THIS WEBSITE!

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79205875


You're an idiot, the legal language TRUMPS everything else you see there.

bsflag
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AND WHERE DOES IT SAY IN THE TERMS OF USE THAT MODS OF GLP CAN BAN ANYONE FOR CHALLENGING THEM? OR FOR TALKING ABOUT WHO OWNS GLP?
OR FOR EVEN MENTIONING THE COMPANY NAME ASSOCIATED WITH GLP?

WHERE IS THAT IN THE TERMS OF USE?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77558496


Right here:

7. Account Termination Policy

A. godlikeproductions may terminate a User's access to its Website at any time without notice for any reason or no reason at all.

B. godlikeproductions reserves the right to decide whether Content or a User Submission is appropriate and complies with these Terms of Service for violations other than copyright infringement or privacy law, such as, but not limited to, hate crimes, pornography, obscene or defamatory material, or excessive length. godlikeproductions may remove such User Submissions and/or terminate a User's access for uploading such material in violation of these Terms of Service at any time, without prior notice and at its sole discretion.
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Are you stupid?

Read the disclaimer and shut the fuck up.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79205875


Read the Terms of Use you fucking dick!
 Quoting: Professional Amateur


They are VOID by the disclaimer, you stupid piece of shit.

[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]

DON'T BELIEVE A DAMN WORD YOU READ ON THIS WEBSITE!

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79205875


You're an idiot, the legal language TRUMPS everything else you see there.

bsflag
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It is all the same language you stupid piece of shit.

Now everyone knows you are stupid piece of shit.
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08/01/2020 01:57 PM
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If anything, Trin has a case against paypal.
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he's a janitor now
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08/01/2020 01:59 PM
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It looks like Patreon will have to pay out millions for arbitration fees.


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TARDS

PRIVATE BUSINESSES CAN DEPLATFORM ANYONE

SAME AS PRIVATE BUSINESS GLP CAN BAN ANYONE AND DELETE THEIR POSTS / THREADS

YOU DO NOT HAVE A CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT TO A "PLATFORM"

"PLATFORMS" ARE A SERVICE THAT YOU ARE OFFERED FOR FREE BY PRIVATE BUSINESSES

PATREON, YOUTUBE, FACEBOOK, TWITTER.... ARE ALL PRIVATE PROPERTY, PRIVATE BUSINESSES.... THEY ARE NOT PUBLIC OWNED BUSINESSES

SINCE THEY ARE NOT OWNED BY THE PUBLIC, THEY CAN CHOOSE TO DEPLATFORM ANYONE THEY WANT

THAT IS THEIR RIGHT AS A PRIVATE BUSINESS
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77558496


Yea but when a baker refuses to bake a gay cake, it goes to the supreme court.
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They are VOID by the disclaimer, you stupid piece of shit.

[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]

DON'T BELIEVE A DAMN WORD YOU READ ON THIS WEBSITE!

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79205875


You're an idiot, the legal language TRUMPS everything else you see there.

bsflag
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AND WHERE DOES IT SAY IN THE TERMS OF USE THAT MODS OF GLP CAN BAN ANYONE FOR CHALLENGING THEM? OR FOR TALKING ABOUT WHO OWNS GLP?
OR FOR EVEN MENTIONING THE COMPANY NAME ASSOCIATED WITH GLP?

WHERE IS THAT IN THE TERMS OF USE?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77558496


Right here:

7. Account Termination Policy

A. godlikeproductions may terminate a User's access to its Website at any time without notice for any reason or no reason at all.

B. godlikeproductions reserves the right to decide whether Content or a User Submission is appropriate and complies with these Terms of Service for violations other than copyright infringement or privacy law, such as, but not limited to, hate crimes, pornography, obscene or defamatory material, or excessive length. godlikeproductions may remove such User Submissions and/or terminate a User's access for uploading such material in violation of these Terms of Service at any time, without prior notice and at its sole discretion.
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SO IT IS OKAY FOR GLP TO TERMINATE A USER'S ACCESS AT ANY TIME WITHOUT OTICE FOR ANY REASON OR NO REASON AT ALL..... BUT NOT OKAY FOR OTHER PRIVATE BUSINESSES, LIKE PATREON OR YOUTUBE OR TWITTER OR FACEBOOK TO DO THE SAME?

GOT IT

YOU KNOW EVERY PRIVATELY OWNED BUSINESS HAS THE EXACT SAME RIGHT, RIGHT?

"WE RESERVE THE RIGHT TO REFUSE SERVICE TO ANYONE" IS A COMMON SIGN IN MANY PRIVATELY OWNED BUSINESSES

SO WHY IS IT NOT OKAY FOR YOUTUBE OR PATREON OR TWITTER TO HAVE THE SAME RIGHTS ASA ANY OTHER PRIVATE BUSINESS?
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Wrong, we used paypal to purchase a "goods and services" from GLP and we were denied access to paid membership for a brief period. Some even were charged after paypal severed ties.

GFY
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AND WHERE IN PAYPAL'S TERMS OF SERVICE DOES IT SAY IT MUST OFFER SERVICES TO GLP?

PAYPAL SAW THE CESS POOL OF HATE AND RACISM THAT IS POSTED ON GLP DAILY AND SAID WE NO LONGER WISH TO DO BUSINESS WITH YOU.

THAT IS PAYPAL'S RIGHT AS A PRIVATE BUSINESS

IF PAYPAL WAS A REAL LIFE BRICK AND MORTAR STORE, AND TRINITY OR ANYOEN CAME IN AND STARTED TALKING RACIST OR HATEFUL SHIT, PAYPAL COULD HAVE TRINITY REMOVED OFF THEIR PRIVATE PROPERTY.

AND IF TRINITY REFUSED TO LEAVE, PAYPAL WOULD HAVE THE RIGHT TO CALL THE POLICE TO HAVE TRINITY REMOVED FROM THEIR PRIVATE PROERTY

THAT IS THE RIGHT OF PROPERTY OWNERS

YOU ALL SEEM TO THINK YOU OWN AND ARE ENTITLED TO PRIVATE BUSINESSES THAT YOU DO NOT MAINTAIN NOR BUILT BUT USE THEIR SERVICES
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77558496


Again, argue with the court, not me. Paypal is next on the arbitration block.
 Quoting: Professional Amateur



BUT YOU SUPPORT THE COMMUNIST POLICY OF TELLING PRIVATE BUSINESSES WHAT THEY CAN AND CANNOT DO ON THEIR PROPERTY

GOT IT

SO THAT MEANS THE GOVT CAN TELL TRINITY HE CAN NO LONGER BAN USERS BECAUSE HE AND HIS MODS WANT TO BECAUSE THEY DON'T LIKE WHAT CERTAIN USERS POST

THAT IS WHERE THIS IS HEADING....COMMUNISM... THAT STATES PROPERTY OWNERS DO NOT HAVE RIGHTS TO SECURE THEIR PRIVATE PROPERTY AND THAT CUSTOMERS HAVE MORE RIGHTS TO WHAT DOES NOT BELONG TO THEM

CONGRATS, YOU ALL ARE SLIPPING DOWN THE COMMUNIST HILL INTO TOTAL LOSS OF YOUR RIGHTS
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77558496


By your logic a company can go full on KKK white supremacist and say they hate black people and chosen people of G-d, and they have to be accepted because "muh private business"


For the record I agree but you can see how the above would not go over well at all, they would be charged with hate speech and sued into oblivion.
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AND WHERE IN PAYPAL'S TERMS OF SERVICE DOES IT SAY IT MUST OFFER SERVICES TO GLP?

PAYPAL SAW THE CESS POOL OF HATE AND RACISM THAT IS POSTED ON GLP DAILY AND SAID WE NO LONGER WISH TO DO BUSINESS WITH YOU.

THAT IS PAYPAL'S RIGHT AS A PRIVATE BUSINESS

IF PAYPAL WAS A REAL LIFE BRICK AND MORTAR STORE, AND TRINITY OR ANYOEN CAME IN AND STARTED TALKING RACIST OR HATEFUL SHIT, PAYPAL COULD HAVE TRINITY REMOVED OFF THEIR PRIVATE PROPERTY.

AND IF TRINITY REFUSED TO LEAVE, PAYPAL WOULD HAVE THE RIGHT TO CALL THE POLICE TO HAVE TRINITY REMOVED FROM THEIR PRIVATE PROERTY

THAT IS THE RIGHT OF PROPERTY OWNERS

YOU ALL SEEM TO THINK YOU OWN AND ARE ENTITLED TO PRIVATE BUSINESSES THAT YOU DO NOT MAINTAIN NOR BUILT BUT USE THEIR SERVICES
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77558496


Again, argue with the court, not me. Paypal is next on the arbitration block.
 Quoting: Professional Amateur



BUT YOU SUPPORT THE COMMUNIST POLICY OF TELLING PRIVATE BUSINESSES WHAT THEY CAN AND CANNOT DO ON THEIR PROPERTY

GOT IT

SO THAT MEANS THE GOVT CAN TELL TRINITY HE CAN NO LONGER BAN USERS BECAUSE HE AND HIS MODS WANT TO BECAUSE THEY DON'T LIKE WHAT CERTAIN USERS POST

THAT IS WHERE THIS IS HEADING....COMMUNISM... THAT STATES PROPERTY OWNERS DO NOT HAVE RIGHTS TO SECURE THEIR PRIVATE PROPERTY AND THAT CUSTOMERS HAVE MORE RIGHTS TO WHAT DOES NOT BELONG TO THEM

CONGRATS, YOU ALL ARE SLIPPING DOWN THE COMMUNIST HILL INTO TOTAL LOSS OF YOUR RIGHTS
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77558496


By your logic a company can go full on KKK white supremacist and say they hate black people and chosen people of G-d, and they have to be accepted because "muh private business"


For the record I agree but you can see how the above would not go over well at all, they would be charged with hate speech and sued into oblivion.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79104722



AGREED

A PRIVATE BUSINESS HAS THE RIGHT TO DO WHAT YOU SAID.... HELL GLP DOES IT DAILY, POST AFTER POST OF RACISM AND HATRED AND WISHING DEATH TO AMERICANS IN A CIVIL WAR

AND NO ONE CAN SAY THEY HAVE TO STOP.... BUT PAYPAL CAN SAY WE DON'T LIKE YOUR BUSINESS AND DON'T WANT OUR BUSINESS ASSOCIATED WITH GLP

THE PROBLEM IS IS SINCE THE INTERNET, PEOPLE THINK THEY ARE ENTITLED TO SERVICES BUSINESSES PROVIDE FOR FREE

YOU ARE NOT ENTITLED TO A YOUTUBE CHANNEL, YOU ARE NOT ENTITLED TO A TWITTER FEED, YOU ARE NOT ENTITLED TO A FACEBOOK PAGE....ALL OF THOSE ARE FREE SERVICES A PRIVATE BUSINESS CHOSES TO OFFER AND CAN TAKE AWAY

IT IS NO DIFFERENT THAT A BRICK AND MORTAR STORE OFFERING CUSTOMERS THE PRIVILEGE TO USE THE BATHROOM ON SITE.... BUSINESSES CAN OFFER THAT SERVICE FOR FREE, BUT CAN THEN TAKE IT AWAY AND SAY NO CUSTOMERS CAN USE THE BATHROOM ON OUR PROPERTY

IF YOUTUBE OR TWITER OR FACEBOOK OR PATREON WANT TO END SERVICE FOR CUSTOMERS, THEY HAVE THE SAME RIGHT TRINITY HAS TO END SERVICE TO GLP USERS WHO USE GLP FOR FREE OR PAY FOR IT
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I only donate to one patreon creator, he wrote a message yesterday that he wouldn’t post exclusive content anymore, instead he will just post on youtube. Wonder if this had anything to do with that decision
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Again, argue with the court, not me. Paypal is next on the arbitration block.
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BUT YOU SUPPORT THE COMMUNIST POLICY OF TELLING PRIVATE BUSINESSES WHAT THEY CAN AND CANNOT DO ON THEIR PROPERTY

GOT IT

SO THAT MEANS THE GOVT CAN TELL TRINITY HE CAN NO LONGER BAN USERS BECAUSE HE AND HIS MODS WANT TO BECAUSE THEY DON'T LIKE WHAT CERTAIN USERS POST

THAT IS WHERE THIS IS HEADING....COMMUNISM... THAT STATES PROPERTY OWNERS DO NOT HAVE RIGHTS TO SECURE THEIR PRIVATE PROPERTY AND THAT CUSTOMERS HAVE MORE RIGHTS TO WHAT DOES NOT BELONG TO THEM

CONGRATS, YOU ALL ARE SLIPPING DOWN THE COMMUNIST HILL INTO TOTAL LOSS OF YOUR RIGHTS
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77558496


By your logic a company can go full on KKK white supremacist and say they hate black people and chosen people of G-d, and they have to be accepted because "muh private business"


For the record I agree but you can see how the above would not go over well at all, they would be charged with hate speech and sued into oblivion.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79104722



AGREED

A PRIVATE BUSINESS HAS THE RIGHT TO DO WHAT YOU SAID.... HELL GLP DOES IT DAILY, POST AFTER POST OF RACISM AND HATRED AND WISHING DEATH TO AMERICANS IN A CIVIL WAR

AND NO ONE CAN SAY THEY HAVE TO STOP.... BUT PAYPAL CAN SAY WE DON'T LIKE YOUR BUSINESS AND DON'T WANT OUR BUSINESS ASSOCIATED WITH GLP

THE PROBLEM IS IS SINCE THE INTERNET, PEOPLE THINK THEY ARE ENTITLED TO SERVICES BUSINESSES PROVIDE FOR FREE

YOU ARE NOT ENTITLED TO A YOUTUBE CHANNEL, YOU ARE NOT ENTITLED TO A TWITTER FEED, YOU ARE NOT ENTITLED TO A FACEBOOK PAGE....ALL OF THOSE ARE FREE SERVICES A PRIVATE BUSINESS CHOSES TO OFFER AND CAN TAKE AWAY

IT IS NO DIFFERENT THAT A BRICK AND MORTAR STORE OFFERING CUSTOMERS THE PRIVILEGE TO USE THE BATHROOM ON SITE.... BUSINESSES CAN OFFER THAT SERVICE FOR FREE, BUT CAN THEN TAKE IT AWAY AND SAY NO CUSTOMERS CAN USE THE BATHROOM ON OUR PROPERTY

IF YOUTUBE OR TWITER OR FACEBOOK OR PATREON WANT TO END SERVICE FOR CUSTOMERS, THEY HAVE THE SAME RIGHT TRINITY HAS TO END SERVICE TO GLP USERS WHO USE GLP FOR FREE OR PAY FOR IT
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The thing is Facebook, Twatter, etc. have identified themselves as public platforms, not publishers, yet they want to live in both worlds. There needs to be clarity from Congress and if necessary, the courts.

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BUT YOU SUPPORT THE COMMUNIST POLICY OF TELLING PRIVATE BUSINESSES WHAT THEY CAN AND CANNOT DO ON THEIR PROPERTY

GOT IT

SO THAT MEANS THE GOVT CAN TELL TRINITY HE CAN NO LONGER BAN USERS BECAUSE HE AND HIS MODS WANT TO BECAUSE THEY DON'T LIKE WHAT CERTAIN USERS POST

THAT IS WHERE THIS IS HEADING....COMMUNISM... THAT STATES PROPERTY OWNERS DO NOT HAVE RIGHTS TO SECURE THEIR PRIVATE PROPERTY AND THAT CUSTOMERS HAVE MORE RIGHTS TO WHAT DOES NOT BELONG TO THEM

CONGRATS, YOU ALL ARE SLIPPING DOWN THE COMMUNIST HILL INTO TOTAL LOSS OF YOUR RIGHTS
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77558496


By your logic a company can go full on KKK white supremacist and say they hate black people and chosen people of G-d, and they have to be accepted because "muh private business"


For the record I agree but you can see how the above would not go over well at all, they would be charged with hate speech and sued into oblivion.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79104722



AGREED

A PRIVATE BUSINESS HAS THE RIGHT TO DO WHAT YOU SAID.... HELL GLP DOES IT DAILY, POST AFTER POST OF RACISM AND HATRED AND WISHING DEATH TO AMERICANS IN A CIVIL WAR

AND NO ONE CAN SAY THEY HAVE TO STOP.... BUT PAYPAL CAN SAY WE DON'T LIKE YOUR BUSINESS AND DON'T WANT OUR BUSINESS ASSOCIATED WITH GLP

THE PROBLEM IS IS SINCE THE INTERNET, PEOPLE THINK THEY ARE ENTITLED TO SERVICES BUSINESSES PROVIDE FOR FREE

YOU ARE NOT ENTITLED TO A YOUTUBE CHANNEL, YOU ARE NOT ENTITLED TO A TWITTER FEED, YOU ARE NOT ENTITLED TO A FACEBOOK PAGE....ALL OF THOSE ARE FREE SERVICES A PRIVATE BUSINESS CHOSES TO OFFER AND CAN TAKE AWAY

IT IS NO DIFFERENT THAT A BRICK AND MORTAR STORE OFFERING CUSTOMERS THE PRIVILEGE TO USE THE BATHROOM ON SITE.... BUSINESSES CAN OFFER THAT SERVICE FOR FREE, BUT CAN THEN TAKE IT AWAY AND SAY NO CUSTOMERS CAN USE THE BATHROOM ON OUR PROPERTY

IF YOUTUBE OR TWITER OR FACEBOOK OR PATREON WANT TO END SERVICE FOR CUSTOMERS, THEY HAVE THE SAME RIGHT TRINITY HAS TO END SERVICE TO GLP USERS WHO USE GLP FOR FREE OR PAY FOR IT
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77558496


The thing is Facebook, Twatter, etc. have identified themselves as public platforms, not publishers, yet they want to live in both worlds. There needs to be clarity from Congress and if necessary, the courts.

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Sorry, forgot to sign back in.

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The real question is why patreon, and not, twatter, facecrack, etc...
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Patreon is more of a business agreement where content creators sell their product. So they are shutting down a business when they ban someone.
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You're an idiot, the legal language TRUMPS everything else you see there.

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AND WHERE DOES IT SAY IN THE TERMS OF USE THAT MODS OF GLP CAN BAN ANYONE FOR CHALLENGING THEM? OR FOR TALKING ABOUT WHO OWNS GLP?
OR FOR EVEN MENTIONING THE COMPANY NAME ASSOCIATED WITH GLP?

WHERE IS THAT IN THE TERMS OF USE?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77558496


Right here:

7. Account Termination Policy

A. godlikeproductions may terminate a User's access to its Website at any time without notice for any reason or no reason at all.

B. godlikeproductions reserves the right to decide whether Content or a User Submission is appropriate and complies with these Terms of Service for violations other than copyright infringement or privacy law, such as, but not limited to, hate crimes, pornography, obscene or defamatory material, or excessive length. godlikeproductions may remove such User Submissions and/or terminate a User's access for uploading such material in violation of these Terms of Service at any time, without prior notice and at its sole discretion.
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SO IT IS OKAY FOR GLP TO TERMINATE A USER'S ACCESS AT ANY TIME WITHOUT OTICE FOR ANY REASON OR NO REASON AT ALL..... BUT NOT OKAY FOR OTHER PRIVATE BUSINESSES, LIKE PATREON OR YOUTUBE OR TWITTER OR FACEBOOK TO DO THE SAME?

GOT IT

YOU KNOW EVERY PRIVATELY OWNED BUSINESS HAS THE EXACT SAME RIGHT, RIGHT?

"WE RESERVE THE RIGHT TO REFUSE SERVICE TO ANYONE" IS A COMMON SIGN IN MANY PRIVATELY OWNED BUSINESSES

SO WHY IS IT NOT OKAY FOR YOUTUBE OR PATREON OR TWITTER TO HAVE THE SAME RIGHTS ASA ANY OTHER PRIVATE BUSINESS?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77558496


A whole lot of people, with agenda's, to take away public platforms and free speech, including republican rhino's seems to not get it, no comprehendo, brain dead, when it comes to the specific laws involved.


Private companies, for the most part, ie publishing houses, etc, are responsible for their content. So they can censor. Or not publish a book.

Stores can set rules.



But twitter and facebook, youtube, and possibly more, fall under a law that protects them from individual posts and expressions just like phone companies. They are PUBLIC FORUMS. And they are NOT allowed to censor.

And they can't have it both ways.

So far, everyone has ignored this and not enforced it, because they don't want people to have access to public forums and free speech.
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