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Why Doesn't Water Burn? It Contains Two Volitile Gases!

 
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Why Doesn't Water Burn? It Contains Two Volitile Gases!
Water. Two hydrogen atoms, one oxygen atom.

Why doesn't it burn?

The simple answer is...









It's the leftover "ash" of materials that were burned.
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Re: Why Doesn't Water Burn? It Contains Two Volitile Gases!
Oxygen is not volatile. It only supports combustion.
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Same reason the Earth doesn’t burn up

God has charge over the smallest of elements
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Compounds and molecules have VERY different
properties than the individual atoms of which
they consist.

For example NaCl.
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holy shit

every reply shows me just how goddammned ignorant most of you are.
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holy shit

every reply shows me just how goddammned ignorant most of you are.
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Since you are so fucking brilliant why don't you specify what reply you are talking about and enlighten us all.
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Yo, genius, water is hydrogen already burnt.
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holy shit

every reply shows me just how goddammned ignorant most of you are.
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Since you are so fucking brilliant why don't you specify what reply you are talking about and enlighten us all.
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And BTW English scholar, sentences usually start with a capital letter.
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You can take water apart with electricity and make fuel.

it takes a lot of electricity to do it.

not too much electricity...

You can pipe down water from a high place and use pressure to make much electricity. just like they do in Kemano running an aluminum smelter on a shitty little low drop system... not very much pressure.

You could do this all over the country where there is high and low.

use large diameter pipe for slow flow and pressure runs at full.

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You can take water apart with electricity and make fuel.

it takes a lot of electricity to do it.

not too much electricity...

You can pipe down water from a high place and use pressure to make much electricity. just like they do in Kemano running an aluminum smelter on a shitty little low drop system... not very much pressure.

You could do this all over the country where there is high and low.

use large diameter pipe for slow flow and pressure runs at full.
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Kemano says they generate all the electric with a household flow.

You can easily use a little of the electricity you generate to supply a household flow via condensers.

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You can take water apart with electricity and make fuel.

it takes a lot of electricity to do it.

not too much electricity...

You can pipe down water from a high place and use pressure to make much electricity. just like they do in Kemano running an aluminum smelter on a shitty little low drop system... not very much pressure.

You could do this all over the country where there is high and low.

use large diameter pipe for slow flow and pressure runs at full.
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You are right that one can electrolyze water back into H and O. It can be done to different levels of efficiency. Some people claim you can even do it in a way that, when you use the resulting H and O to power a modified generator, you can produce “excess energy”. The Flame of burning the H and O gas obtained from electrolysis of water is also said to have a number of weird properties, even capable of generate elemental transmutation. It’s a fascinating phenomena.
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[link to library2.utm.utoronto.ca]

All that doth flow we cannot liquid name,
Or else would fire and water be the same,
But that is liquid which is moist and wet;
Fire that property can never get.
Then ’tis not cold that puts the fire out,
But ’tis the wet that makes it die, no doubt.

~ Margaret Cavendish, Duchess of Newcastle (1623–1673)
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This guy makes HHO electrolyzer units in Paraguay, in this video he runs a small genset with the HHO produced with the electrolyzer powered by the output of the same Genset (closed loop). However he says if you keep doing this the genset eventually starts failing because the HHO explosion within the combustion chamber starts breaking up the cylinder and piston metals. This would require a turbine of special material to be used as an self sustaining energy source.


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Re: Why Doesn't Water Burn? It Contains Two Volitile Gases!
because its a "stable" molecule .

All chemical reactions (i.e. "combustion")come from elements exchanging electrons and releasing energy.
"Explosions" are fast uncontrolled combustion(reaction); Ordinary "fire" is a slower burn(reaction).
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Yo, genius, water is hydrogen already burnt.
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Cold and fresh is funniest to drink, when the water comes from deep out of the plumbing
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Re: Why Doesn't Water Burn? It Contains Two Volitile Gases!
Water. Two hydrogen atoms, one oxygen atom.

Why doesn't it burn?

The simple answer is...









It's the leftover "ash" of materials that were burned.
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Do you want me to beat you to death with the book of Devanim (Deuteronomy) again and or ram a fuel cell up your asshole?
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Re: Why Doesn't Water Burn? It Contains Two Volitile Gases!
because GOD knew what He was doing when He made it.
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Re: Why Doesn't Water Burn? It Contains Two Volitile Gases!
cause it's too wet, duh.
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They figured out how to make fuel from water years ago -- the secret has been repressed by the automotive industry.
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that particular molecular bond is one of the fascinating things about the creation.

in order to break that bond, and release that energy you would need to either raise the temperature of the mixture (the water) to it's boiling point of 212F at which point all of the H would escape into the atmosphere in the form of hot steam, and unless you have an apparatus attached to "catch" that hot steam (at which point it would return to it's room temp state and in the process losing bits of itself (little H's) that the oxygen in the air steals and that old bond is formed again, and becomes ittle baby HH0 drops
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Re: Why Doesn't Water Burn? It Contains Two Volitile Gases!
Actually water will burn at the right temperature.

Apparently if you try to put out rocket fuel combustion with water, it makes it to combustion stage.

as i am no expert on this, someone who is good at physics could confirm or deny
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Re: Why Doesn't Water Burn? It Contains Two Volitile Gases!
Solar cells producing electricity can be the energy required to split water into hydrogen. In that case who cares about efficiency!
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Water explodes. Pour water on a heavy class delta fire then get back to us.
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Actually water will burn at the right temperature.

Apparently if you try to put out rocket fuel combustion with water, it makes it to combustion stage.

as i am no expert on this, someone who is good at physics could confirm or deny
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Water explodes. Pour water on a heavy class delta fire then get back to us.
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Water does not “explode” in the same sense than a explosive substance does. What happens, If you pour water into something burning at a high enough temperature, on one side it changes phase rapidly upon absorbing heat, and a fast phase change can be called “explosion”, but if the temperature is high enough, it will also cause thermal lysis of water Molecules into hydrogen and oxygen, that then recombine again, and there you have a real explosion, but it’s not water exploding, but it’s hydrogen burning at the fast rate it does to form water again. If the source of the high temperature remains, this can happen again and again, so, water is not the way to put down high temperature fires. Anyone remembers Fukushima’s nuclear plant explosions? Those were from water contacting the runaway hot nuclear fuel, becoming hydrogen and oxygen, and exploding.

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...and why doesn't fire quench thirst?
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Thermal lysis of water was used by Paul Pantone in his “fuel reformer reactor” G.E.E.T which used fuel exhaust heat to overheat a water mist and injecting it to the fuel intake, Reducing Fuel consumption in ICE motors. To this day there’s people that modify their engines with Pantone’s idea and save up to 30% fuel this way.
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Re: Why Doesn't Water Burn? It Contains Two Volitile Gases!
Water. Two hydrogen atoms, one oxygen atom.

Why doesn't it burn?

The simple answer is...









It's the leftover "ash" of materials that were burned.
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what is electrolysis
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Hydrogen gas implodes.
It makes a snapping sound its pretty cool when you hear it.
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Hydrogen gas implodes.
It makes a snapping sound its pretty cool when you hear it.
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It has a very fast rate of burning, you are correct, it is “supersonic” so it puts quite a bang when exploding.
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