Interesting way to deal with the increasing craziness we're moving in to

Users Online Now: 1,543 (Who's On?)	Visitors Today: 48,628
Pageviews Today: 68,065	Threads Today: 17	Posts Today: 320
12:34 AM

Page 1 2 3 4 Bottom Search Replies Previous Page Next Page
Search Terms: Highlight Matches
interesting way to deal with the increasing craziness we're moving in to
davidnv General Discussion User ID: 77971319 United States 08/01/2020 12:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	interesting way to deal with the increasing craziness we're moving in to Most of my life I’ve been looking for relief from the pain, anxiety and frustration of living in this bizarre, challenging world. I’ve had a lot of time to think about it (i'm 70 now) and explore different psychological and spiritual modalities - most of which end up being long on promises but short on any lasting results. Last week, I found myself watching/listening to this guy Robert Salzman on youtube. Right away i perked up because his ideas are so unique, out-of-the-box and refreshing. If you're at all interested in a new perspective that could lighten your load and lower your anxiety level, you might consider taking a few minutes to listen to this guy. Start at about 4 minutes and see if you resonate with what he’s talking about. (i know he looks a little bit like the crazy professor from Back to the Future, but he's the most intelligent, clear thinking, good-hearted person i've heard in a long time) Robert Salzman also wrote a book called: The Ten Thousand Things(quotes below). If you watched the video and liked it, you’ll probably enjoy the book. About this thread: I’ll be posting quotes from Salzman’s books and links to his talks. Bottom line for me: by applying some of these ideas, i've already started to notice that i'm stressing less and feeling more at peace with being in this body. Last Edited by davidnv on 08/10/2020 09:04 AM

davidnv (OP) General Discussion User ID: 77971319 United States 08/01/2020 12:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: interesting way to deal with the increasing craziness we're moving in to “For me, an apparent personal self is still present, but has lost the authority of its judgments, certainties and pet beliefs. Gone too is the usual intense identification with personal history and autobiography as if one owned the past, or at least one’s little piece of it. I don’t mean that I cannot remember erstwhile experiences, but that they have lost their power to affect and condition the present. If I speak of bygones, it feels as if speaking about someone else entirely.” The Ten Thousand Things by Robert Saltzman
davidnv (OP) General Discussion User ID: 77971319 United States 08/01/2020 12:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: interesting way to deal with the increasing craziness we're moving in to “Without its certainties and habitual attachment to self-fulfillment, and self-justification, the personal self has nowhere very solid to perch. If there is anger, it lasts only a moment. If there is lust, it lasts only for a moment. Such feelings are neither rationalized and explained by reference to the past, nor sustained by weaving them into a story one imagines will continue onward into a visualized future. For me, feelings are not connected up in that way. One really does live at all times only here and now, not by choice, but just because that’s the way it is." The Ten Thousand Things by Robert Saltzman
davidnv (OP) General Discussion User ID: 77971319 United States 08/01/2020 12:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: interesting way to deal with the increasing craziness we're moving in to “Following others will not lead to seeing myself and the world as the mystery they are. Quite the opposite. Awakening is when you don’t follow." The Ten Thousand Things by Robert Saltzman
davidnv (OP) General Discussion User ID: 77971319 United States 08/01/2020 12:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: interesting way to deal with the increasing craziness we're moving in to “If one sees that nothing like free will actually exists, the capacity to accuse, blame, and reproach just disappears. No choice implies no blame. That is forgiveness. Not that anyone chooses to forgive, or decides to forgive." The Ten Thousand Things by Robert Saltzman
davidnv (OP) General Discussion User ID: 77971319 United States 08/01/2020 12:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: interesting way to deal with the increasing craziness we're moving in to “I simply do not know, and that “not-knowing” is part and parcel of what I consider “awake.” " The Ten Thousand Things by Robert Saltzman

Anonymous Coward User ID: 73431649 United States 08/01/2020 12:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: interesting way to deal with the increasing craziness we're moving in to Sounds like a new age version of lazy man tao.
davidnv (OP) General Discussion User ID: 77971319 United States 08/01/2020 12:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: interesting way to deal with the increasing craziness we're moving in to “To put this in simplest terms, so far as any of us knows, no one is making this stream of consciousness—the river of perceptions, feelings, and thoughts that in each moment is “myself.” You can tell yourself that “God” is making that stream, but hanging a name on the incomprehensible does nothing to explicate or illuminate the actual, front-and-center mystery of aliveness—the astounding fact of being at all, prior to concepts about the supposed source of this aliveness.” The Ten Thousand Things by Robert Saltzman
Anonymous Coward User ID: 64895524 Slovenia 08/01/2020 12:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: interesting way to deal with the increasing craziness we're moving in to A much simpler way of coping with the world's insanity - smoke a joint and stop bothering people.
Anonymous Coward User ID: 73431649 United States 08/01/2020 12:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: interesting way to deal with the increasing craziness we're moving in to A much simpler way of coping with the world's insanity - smoke a joint and stop bothering people. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 64895524 Akin to "just fade away."
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77981219 Germany 08/01/2020 12:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: interesting way to deal with the increasing craziness we're moving in to Thank you for posting!

Anonymous Coward User ID: 72057746 United States 08/01/2020 01:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: interesting way to deal with the increasing craziness we're moving in to Thank you for this.
davidnv (OP) General Discussion User ID: 77971319 United States 08/01/2020 02:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: interesting way to deal with the increasing craziness we're moving in to Sounds like a new age version of lazy man tao. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73431649 Maybe so. Did you get a chance to listen to any of the vid?
davidnv (OP) General Discussion User ID: 77971319 United States 08/01/2020 02:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: interesting way to deal with the increasing craziness we're moving in to A much simpler way of coping with the world's insanity - smoke a joint and stop bothering people. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 64895524 Granted, that's one way...
davidnv (OP) General Discussion User ID: 77971319 United States 08/01/2020 04:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: interesting way to deal with the increasing craziness we're moving in to A much simpler way of coping with the world's insanity - smoke a joint and stop bothering people. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 64895524 Akin to "just fade away." Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73431649 On the contrary. It's more about becoming fully embodied...
davidnv (OP) General Discussion User ID: 77971319 United States 08/01/2020 04:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: interesting way to deal with the increasing craziness we're moving in to Thank you for posting! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77981219 You're welcome. Please let us know if you delve into it further. Your feedback is appreciated.
davidnv (OP) General Discussion User ID: 77971319 United States 08/01/2020 06:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: interesting way to deal with the increasing craziness we're moving in to “Whether a supreme being exists or not is beside the point anyway. Regardless of what you believe or disbelieve, undeniably, here you are. Each moment is unique in its suchness—its essential character—come and gone like a lightning flash. Who knows what, if anything, is creating that suchness? We are here without knowing. Each moment is what it is when it is, isn’t it? The Ten Thousand Things by Robert Saltzman
davidnv (OP) General Discussion User ID: 77971319 United States 08/01/2020 06:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: interesting way to deal with the increasing craziness we're moving in to In awakening, one sees that concepts about ultimate matters are only passing thoughts in changeful human minds, not “Truth.” Saltzman, Robert. The Ten Thousand Things (p. 7). New Sarum Press. Kindle Edition.
davidnv (OP) General Discussion User ID: 77971319 United States 08/01/2020 07:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: interesting way to deal with the increasing craziness we're moving in to I have not a flyspeck of interest in beliefs, conjectures, or faith of any stripe, not because one belief or another has been proven wrong or because I am an atheist or a materialist, but because this moment is sufficient unto itself without my needing to believe anything. Saltzman, Robert. The Ten Thousand Things (p. 8). New Sarum Press. Kindle Edition.
davidnv (OP) General Discussion User ID: 77971319 United States 08/01/2020 08:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: interesting way to deal with the increasing craziness we're moving in to Like any other person I have a story and a personality, not chosen, but imposed by nature and nurture. It is what it is. No one is to blame, and I’m not judging. Saltzman, Robert. The Ten Thousand Things (p. 9). New Sarum Press. Kindle Edition.
syncro User ID: 49921409 United States 08/01/2020 08:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: interesting way to deal with the increasing craziness we're moving in to He seems to be doing formless yoga, like Advaita, or Zen, ... Can't say that he is correct in negating other types of paths, but in that it may appeal to certain mental compositions that otherwise would not be attracted, which is good thing. But saying a devotional path for example, does not bring the present realization of which he speaks, does not pass. The fruits of such things cannot be defined by the means.
syncro User ID: 49921409 United States 08/01/2020 08:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: interesting way to deal with the increasing craziness we're moving in to Watching vid. I like how he brings memories to the present. Quite freeing the way he said it, pain relief.
Anonymous Coward User ID: 43175674 United States 08/02/2020 02:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: interesting way to deal with the increasing craziness we're moving in to
davidnv (OP) General Discussion User ID: 77971319 United States 08/02/2020 07:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: interesting way to deal with the increasing craziness we're moving in to He seems to be doing formless yoga, like Advaita, or Zen, ... Can't say that he is correct in negating other types of paths, but in that it may appeal to certain mental compositions that otherwise would not be attracted, which is good thing. But saying a devotional path for example, does not bring the present realization of which he speaks, does not pass. The fruits of such things cannot be defined by the means. Quoting: syncro Thanks for your feedback. I guess the main problematic issue with a devotional path is that the devotee, by definition, sets him or her self apart from (and less than) the object of devotion.
davidnv (OP) General Discussion User ID: 77971319 United States 08/02/2020 08:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: interesting way to deal with the increasing craziness we're moving in to Watching vid. I like how he brings memories to the present. Quite freeing the way he said it, pain relief. Quoting: syncro Thanks for your feedback.
Trisherella User ID: 77901425 United States 08/02/2020 08:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: interesting way to deal with the increasing craziness we're moving in to Spiritual beliefs are meaningless? I don't know how much I'm going to get out of this. I'll read your quotes and summaries though. Trisherella

davidnv (OP) General Discussion User ID: 77971319 United States 08/02/2020 10:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: interesting way to deal with the increasing craziness we're moving in to Quoting: Anonymous Coward 43175674 back at you.
davidnv (OP) General Discussion User ID: 77971319 United States 08/02/2020 01:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: interesting way to deal with the increasing craziness we're moving in to Spiritual beliefs are meaningless? I don't know how much I'm going to get out of this. I'll read your quotes and summaries though. Quoting: Trisherella Your open mindedness is refreshing. Don't ever let anyone tell you otherwise...
davidnv (OP) General Discussion User ID: 77971319 United States 08/02/2020 10:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: interesting way to deal with the increasing craziness we're moving in to “If one sees that nothing like free will actually exists, the capacity to accuse, blame, and reproach just disappears. No choice implies no blame. That is forgiveness. Not that anyone chooses to forgive, or decides to forgive." The Ten Thousand Things by Robert Saltzman Quoting: davidnv This is only true for Caucasians. Caucasians don't have free will because they don't have spirits. They just animals. So squirrels don't have free will, racoons don't either. Nor do Caucasians. Because they're all just animals. But brothas have free will because we have actual spirits. Just like if you playin' a video game. The person playing the game can do whatever they want, they can kill all the villagers, complete quests out of order, go to any town. But the "NPCs" in the game can't do anything other than their prescripted behavior. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78505753 Interesting theory. Thanks for you comment.
davidnv (OP) General Discussion User ID: 77971319 United States 08/03/2020 09:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: interesting way to deal with the increasing craziness we're moving in to As Shen Hui said, awakening is not gradual, but sudden, instantaneous. It is not about practice. All at once you see that you are not doing anything. Not deciding anything. Not choosing anything. There is no such choosing/deciding “myself” except in fantasy. Saltzman, Robert. The Ten Thousand Things (p. 12). New Sarum Press. Kindle Edition.
davidnv (OP) General Discussion User ID: 77971319 United States 08/03/2020 01:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation	Re: interesting way to deal with the increasing craziness we're moving in to Whatever you feel, think, and see is you. There is no choice in the matter—no escaping you. That is what I mean by the word “awakening”—a sudden awareness, quite undeniable, that everything you see, feel, and think is you. Saltzman, Robert. The Ten Thousand Things
Page 1 2 3 4 Top Previous Page Next Page

Related Threads

Join Now, Free! (& No Ads!) Forgot Your Password?
Email	Password	Remember

1	Founding Fathers were Deists and didnt subscribe to the batshit crazy organized religions	07/24/22
2	If You Object to the Iran Nuke Deal, Obama Just Called You One of the 'Crazies': Say What?	08/25/15
3	Public service announcement for dealing with crazy people. Ruminating!	01/31/19
4	Biden’s Green New Deal Is Just As Crazy As AOC’s	07/16/20
5	Best way to deal with crazy people?	05/23/21
6	They said we were crazy... and then did everything they called us crazy for predicting.	03/31/21
7	Ozzy Osbourne moving back to England, doesn’t want to ‘die in crazy America’	08/29/22
8	How to deal with crazy relatives around the holidays and yr round	12/20/13
9	Are the Earth and Sun really acting crazy or is human knowledge and awareness just increasing?	02/17/11
10	America you're going to have to learn to deal with crazy people doing crazy things,	12/17/12

Rate this Thread

interesting way to deal with the increasing craziness we're moving in to