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mr dull socks
User ID: 78401556 United States 08/01/2020 11:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to imgur.com (secure)] Quoting: Fluffy Pancakes That pic is the morning round of supplements. Pretty sure I got them all in there. Here's what they are: Quercitin with 22mg of zinc Zinc EDTA to help with any blood clotting arteriosclerosis issues Serrapetase Vitamin E Liposomal C (7200mg minimum per day) Vitamin D Lion's Mane Chaga Turmeric (for infammation and clotting) Selenium Magnesium theronate We are getting Xtendovite in next week to help with heart issues which he is also feeling. how much vitamin D? 5,000 iu am and pm. thats not near enough, at 10,000, iu it is most likely being used almost instantly, for vit D to be most effective you need to saturate the blood with it. If he wasnt supplementing with at least 5000 iu a day for about 4 months BEFORE he got sick, his 25OHD levels wont be high enough to offer any sort of help. you should do 50,000 iu per day for a week or two. It sounds like a lot but most of it is used up and the body retains some of it. The idea is to flood the body with enough to be used but for some to be left to begin to saturate the blood. then drop to 20,000 per day for a month, then 15,000 for another month. |
Paranoiaaaaa
Butters User ID: 77172019 United States 08/01/2020 11:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm sure you've thought of this, but since the magnesium is giving him stomach troubles, what about soaking in an Epsom salt bath for his muscles cramps/aches? "Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get you." - Fox Mulder - The X-Files "Life is what happens while you are busy making other plans." - John Lennon |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77817216 United States 08/01/2020 11:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The sun really helped me. I had symptoms for months and it was pretty bad at it's worst (shortness of breath, heart/bp issues and others). I was on zinc, vitamin c, d3 and nothing was really working, and the only thing that I changed was I started getting some sun, usually at least 30 minutes each day. Within a few weeks I was almost 100% again, able to exercise and everything. |
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Fluffy Pancakes
(OP) User ID: 34460780 United States 08/01/2020 11:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to imgur.com (secure)] Quoting: Fluffy Pancakes That pic is the morning round of supplements. Pretty sure I got them all in there. Here's what they are: Quercitin with 22mg of zinc Zinc EDTA to help with any blood clotting arteriosclerosis issues Serrapetase Vitamin E Liposomal C (7200mg minimum per day) Vitamin D Lion's Mane Chaga Turmeric (for infammation and clotting) Selenium Magnesium theronate We are getting Xtendovite in next week to help with heart issues which he is also feeling. how much vitamin D? 5,000 iu am and pm. thats not near enough, at 10,000, iu it is most likely being used almost instantly, for vit D to be most effective you need to saturate the blood with it. If he wasnt supplementing with at least 5000 iu a day for about 4 months BEFORE he got sick, his 25OHD levels wont be high enough to offer any sort of help. you should do 50,000 iu per day for a week or two. It sounds like a lot but most of it is used up and the body retains some of it. The idea is to flood the body with enough to be used but for some to be left to begin to saturate the blood. then drop to 20,000 per day for a month, then 15,000 for another month. Ok. We can do that. We live in the country and I make him go in the Sun as well. But we'll up the vitamins. Things are bad enough, there is no need to make anything up. ~Fluffy "Never interrupt an enemy in the process of destroying himself." Quercitin and zinc...Get it. Take it. Visit howbad.info...If you took the shot, for sure. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78018630 08/01/2020 11:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The sun really helped me. Quoting: BFD I had symptoms for months and it was pretty bad at it's worst (shortness of breath, heart/bp issues and others). I was on zinc, vitamin c, d3 and nothing was really working, and the only thing that I changed was I started getting some sun, usually at least 30 minutes each day. Within a few weeks I was almost 100% again, able to exercise and everything. Yeah, me too, helped a lot. I'm still having issues though, are you? Worst thing is these tight neck muscles and panic attacks. I also have respiratory issues but I smoke a pack a day so that doesn't help. |
Fluffy Pancakes
(OP) User ID: 34460780 United States 08/01/2020 11:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm sure you've thought of this, but since the magnesium is giving him stomach troubles, what about soaking in an Epsom salt bath for his muscles cramps/aches? Quoting: Paranoiaaaaa Yep. He's a shower guy. Thinks it's creepy sitting in his dirt. So I convinced to shower then bathe with Epsom salts. Lol. And really, this isn't just about my hubby. I want it to be a help to others as well. And yes, I am geocentric so I think my realm has effects on others. Thanks for the pin! Things are bad enough, there is no need to make anything up. ~Fluffy "Never interrupt an enemy in the process of destroying himself." Quercitin and zinc...Get it. Take it. Visit howbad.info...If you took the shot, for sure. |
Paranoiaaaaa
Butters User ID: 77172019 United States 08/01/2020 11:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm sure you've thought of this, but since the magnesium is giving him stomach troubles, what about soaking in an Epsom salt bath for his muscles cramps/aches? Quoting: Paranoiaaaaa Yep. He's a shower guy. Thinks it's creepy sitting in his dirt. So I convinced to shower then bathe with Epsom salts. Lol. And really, this isn't just about my hubby. I want it to be a help to others as well. And yes, I am geocentric so I think my realm has effects on others. Thanks for the pin! I'll be watching this thread for any ideas. You never know when someone might get sick. "Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get you." - Fox Mulder - The X-Files "Life is what happens while you are busy making other plans." - John Lennon |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78326789 08/01/2020 11:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No. He had some HCQ which was prescribed to him on his diagnosis a couple years ago for RA. So we did that and zinc. Full 10 days. Nothing changed and we finally got a tele doc deal. He wouldn't prescribe HCQ and Zithromax, but one or the other. Since the half life of HCQ is about 40 days, we went with the zithromax as we had no access to that. And it did help. He'd been doing well with our natural treatments for RA. Boron, Magnesium, turmeric, vitC D and E. When he felt the stinging and shooting pain in the sinuses, he was building new decks (including tear out) and doing fine with that in the heat. Now, 20 minutes of work is a problem. Docs are prescribing HCQ with doxycycline to people with possible heart issues. Its the zithro that has heart side effects. Yep. It is actually a good thing I think that he has been sleepy because Zithromax side effect of breaking tendons and “stuff” lasts for months. That shit should be banned. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78326789 08/01/2020 11:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No. He had some HCQ which was prescribed to him on his diagnosis a couple years ago for RA. So we did that and zinc. Full 10 days. Nothing changed and we finally got a tele doc deal. He wouldn't prescribe HCQ and Zithromax, but one or the other. Since the half life of HCQ is about 40 days, we went with the zithromax as we had no access to that. And it did help. He'd been doing well with our natural treatments for RA. Boron, Magnesium, turmeric, vitC D and E. When he felt the stinging and shooting pain in the sinuses, he was building new decks (including tear out) and doing fine with that in the heat. Now, 20 minutes of work is a problem. Docs are prescribing HCQ with doxycycline to people with possible heart issues. Its the zithro that has heart side effects. Yep. It is actually a good thing I think that he has been sleepy because Zithromax side effect of breaking tendons and “stuff” lasts for months. That shit should be banned. |
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mr dull socks
User ID: 78401556 United States 08/01/2020 11:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | thats not near enough, at 10,000, iu it is most likely being used almost instantly, for vit D to be most effective you need to saturate the blood with it. If he wasnt supplementing with at least 5000 iu a day for about 4 months BEFORE he got sick, his 25OHD levels wont be high enough to offer any sort of help. you should do 50,000 iu per day for a week or two. It sounds like a lot but most of it is used up and the body retains some of it. The idea is to flood the body with enough to be used but for some to be left to begin to saturate the blood. then drop to 20,000 per day for a month, then 15,000 for another month. Ok. We can do that. We live in the country and I make him go in the Sun as well. But we'll up the vitamins. perfect! i personally take 10,000 IU per day every day when healthy. Vitamin D truly is a wonder "vitamin" but it isnt actually a vitamin it is a hormone. Vitamin D is what regulates and tells the immune system how to fight pathogens. If the body doesnt have it in constant supply in the blood stream the cells dont really know what to do. The reason the blood needs to be saturated is because the vitamin D needs to travel up to the brain to be encoded with instructions before it is effective. When you dont take enough the cells uptake vitamin D without the encoded instructions and it doesnt really help. We really need to get his 25OHD levels up as fast as possible. I would also get some colloidal silver if you can. the very best stuff is from a company called sliver biotics. |
Fluffy Pancakes
(OP) User ID: 34460780 United States 08/01/2020 11:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | NOTICE : Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42889017 If a GLP member bans you from their threads, you can still one-star their threads. That's what I'm going to do to OP's threads. Good! You're still a jerk. Things are bad enough, there is no need to make anything up. ~Fluffy "Never interrupt an enemy in the process of destroying himself." Quercitin and zinc...Get it. Take it. Visit howbad.info...If you took the shot, for sure. |
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Fluffy Pancakes
(OP) User ID: 34460780 United States 08/01/2020 11:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No. He had some HCQ which was prescribed to him on his diagnosis a couple years ago for RA. So we did that and zinc. Full 10 days. Nothing changed and we finally got a tele doc deal. He wouldn't prescribe HCQ and Zithromax, but one or the other. Since the half life of HCQ is about 40 days, we went with the zithromax as we had no access to that. And it did help. He'd been doing well with our natural treatments for RA. Boron, Magnesium, turmeric, vitC D and E. When he felt the stinging and shooting pain in the sinuses, he was building new decks (including tear out) and doing fine with that in the heat. Now, 20 minutes of work is a problem. Docs are prescribing HCQ with doxycycline to people with possible heart issues. Its the zithro that has heart side effects. I'm generally very natural meds oriented. Prefer to not use pharmaceuticals if possible, but I am not averse to their use when it is needed. So, here's how it went. I determined that it was Covid due to symptoms. And we began to attempt to get a doctor involved as we'd already been doing homebaked prophylaxis, which is definitely shooting from the hip. He never had heart or BP problems. Just RA and Lyme, predominately joint pain and lack of energy. And the fingers kinda bowing out.... Things are bad enough, there is no need to make anything up. ~Fluffy "Never interrupt an enemy in the process of destroying himself." Quercitin and zinc...Get it. Take it. Visit howbad.info...If you took the shot, for sure. |
Fluffy Pancakes
(OP) User ID: 34460780 United States 08/02/2020 12:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No. He had some HCQ which was prescribed to him on his diagnosis a couple years ago for RA. So we did that and zinc. Full 10 days. Nothing changed and we finally got a tele doc deal. He wouldn't prescribe HCQ and Zithromax, but one or the other. Since the half life of HCQ is about 40 days, we went with the zithromax as we had no access to that. And it did help. He'd been doing well with our natural treatments for RA. Boron, Magnesium, turmeric, vitC D and E. When he felt the stinging and shooting pain in the sinuses, he was building new decks (including tear out) and doing fine with that in the heat. Now, 20 minutes of work is a problem. Docs are prescribing HCQ with doxycycline to people with possible heart issues. Its the zithro that has heart side effects. Yep. It is actually a good thing I think that he has been sleepy because Zithromax side effect of breaking tendons and “stuff” lasts for months. That shit should be banned. Thought it was Cipro and Levoquil (maybe?) that caused tendon issues. Pretty sure it wasn't zithromax. He's not had any heart or BP issues. But actually we need to check it out now with the chest tightness. Have a BP cuff and will do that. Things are bad enough, there is no need to make anything up. ~Fluffy "Never interrupt an enemy in the process of destroying himself." Quercitin and zinc...Get it. Take it. Visit howbad.info...If you took the shot, for sure. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77817216 United States 08/02/2020 12:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The sun really helped me. Quoting: BFD I had symptoms for months and it was pretty bad at it's worst (shortness of breath, heart/bp issues and others). I was on zinc, vitamin c, d3 and nothing was really working, and the only thing that I changed was I started getting some sun, usually at least 30 minutes each day. Within a few weeks I was almost 100% again, able to exercise and everything. Yeah, me too, helped a lot. I'm still having issues though, are you? Worst thing is these tight neck muscles and panic attacks. I also have respiratory issues but I smoke a pack a day so that doesn't help. You should think about quitting. |
Fluffy Pancakes
(OP) User ID: 34460780 United States 08/02/2020 12:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The sun really helped me. Quoting: BFD I had symptoms for months and it was pretty bad at it's worst (shortness of breath, heart/bp issues and others). I was on zinc, vitamin c, d3 and nothing was really working, and the only thing that I changed was I started getting some sun, usually at least 30 minutes each day. Within a few weeks I was almost 100% again, able to exercise and everything. Yeah, me too, helped a lot. I'm still having issues though, are you? Worst thing is these tight neck muscles and panic attacks. I also have respiratory issues but I smoke a pack a day so that doesn't help. You should think about quitting. I smoke as well. Quit for a few months and it was like hanging on a cliff by my fingernails the entire time. Just wish I'd never started. It is a 400 pound gorilla on your back. Thinking about quitting increases the stress. And smoking makes that stress higher. It's a jacked up deal. My husband quit last year. I'm continually trying. But yes, it would be best to NOT smoke. Things are bad enough, there is no need to make anything up. ~Fluffy "Never interrupt an enemy in the process of destroying himself." Quercitin and zinc...Get it. Take it. Visit howbad.info...If you took the shot, for sure. |
CK Dexter Haven
User ID: 77970696 Romania 08/02/2020 12:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | thats not near enough, at 10,000, iu it is most likely being used almost instantly, for vit D to be most effective you need to saturate the blood with it. If he wasnt supplementing with at least 5000 iu a day for about 4 months BEFORE he got sick, his 25OHD levels wont be high enough to offer any sort of help. you should do 50,000 iu per day for a week or two. It sounds like a lot but most of it is used up and the body retains some of it. The idea is to flood the body with enough to be used but for some to be left to begin to saturate the blood. then drop to 20,000 per day for a month, then 15,000 for another month. Ok. We can do that. We live in the country and I make him go in the Sun as well. But we'll up the vitamins. Those are some pretty high doses. 5,000 iu a day should be plenty imo and you probably shouldn't take more than 10,000 per day. I don't think vitamin D is as toxic as a lot of people say. But there is no doubt that at some point it's too much and can cause serious problems. It's not water soluable, so excess is not excreted in urine like many other vitamins. [link to youtu.be (secure)] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78018630 08/02/2020 12:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The sun really helped me. Quoting: BFD I had symptoms for months and it was pretty bad at it's worst (shortness of breath, heart/bp issues and others). I was on zinc, vitamin c, d3 and nothing was really working, and the only thing that I changed was I started getting some sun, usually at least 30 minutes each day. Within a few weeks I was almost 100% again, able to exercise and everything. Yeah, me too, helped a lot. I'm still having issues though, are you? Worst thing is these tight neck muscles and panic attacks. I also have respiratory issues but I smoke a pack a day so that doesn't help. You should think about quitting. I know, but you know I smoke a lot when I get the panic attacks. Are you still getting panic attacks? Did you find anything that helped when you had them? |
Fluffy Pancakes
(OP) User ID: 34460780 United States 08/02/2020 12:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't have covid but I wish everyone that did get restored back to health soon Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78086220 Bless you for your good wishes! Things are bad enough, there is no need to make anything up. ~Fluffy "Never interrupt an enemy in the process of destroying himself." Quercitin and zinc...Get it. Take it. Visit howbad.info...If you took the shot, for sure. |
mr dull socks
User ID: 78401556 United States 08/02/2020 12:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | thats not near enough, at 10,000, iu it is most likely being used almost instantly, for vit D to be most effective you need to saturate the blood with it. If he wasnt supplementing with at least 5000 iu a day for about 4 months BEFORE he got sick, his 25OHD levels wont be high enough to offer any sort of help. you should do 50,000 iu per day for a week or two. It sounds like a lot but most of it is used up and the body retains some of it. The idea is to flood the body with enough to be used but for some to be left to begin to saturate the blood. then drop to 20,000 per day for a month, then 15,000 for another month. Ok. We can do that. We live in the country and I make him go in the Sun as well. But we'll up the vitamins. Those are some pretty high doses. 5,000 iu a day should be plenty imo and you probably shouldn't take more than 10,000 per day. I don't think vitamin D is as toxic as a lot of people say. But there is no doubt that at some point it's too much and can cause serious problems. It's not water soluable, so excess is not excreted in urine like many other vitamins. [link to youtu.be (secure)] daily dosage is entirely dependent on 25OHD levels. If levels are less than 75ng/ml you can easily take 50,000 for up to a month. there is no known toxic dose of vitamin D. When i worked for big pharma, i did research on vit D there was a case in which a patient was accidentally given an industrial dose of over 7 million IU at one time. There were no apparent side effect from the dosage. The only real concern is lack of calcium in the bones. i does have a tendency to pull some calcium out of bones therefore you can add K2 with your vit D supplementation if you are concerned. In my personal experience this has never been necessary. once an acceptable 25OHD level is reached it takes approx 4000IU a day to maintain this level. At a time when a pandemic level virus is on the loose 10,000IU isnt really that much. it gets used when your body encounters a pathogen. Last Edited by mr dull socks on 08/02/2020 12:48 AM |
CK Dexter Haven
User ID: 77970696 Romania 08/02/2020 12:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This Dr. explores some theories about what's causing this. Elevated cytokines? Relatively short and worth a watch for anyone suffering long term symptoms. [link to youtu.be (secure)] |
mr dull socks
User ID: 78401556 United States 08/02/2020 12:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This Dr. explores some theories about what's causing this. Quoting: CK Dexter Haven Elevated cytokines? Relatively short and worth a watch for anyone suffering long term symptoms. [link to youtu.be (secure)] elevated cytokines aren't a thing. its lack a vitamin D plain and simple. Vitamin D regulates cytokines. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 79093586 United States 08/02/2020 12:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | First off, I know there are a great number of people who think Covid is total bunk. Please don't bother here. Soon enough, you or someone you love will experience it and you will accept that it's an actual thing. So, please just move on. I'm going to monitor the thread and won't tolerate a bunch of bs flags, etc. Quoting: Fluffy Pancakes What I am interested in is actually addressing the problem and finding solutions/ameliorating help in fighting against reinfection or continued effects of having this Chinese bioweapon hitting our bodies. Yes, this is personal. My husband has this, and it is debilitating to him, hence to me. I'm going to run through the ramp up to getting the Covid diagnoses, and then the symptoms that he is still having over a month after knowing what we are dealing with. In mid June, he began to get a sporadic stinging-shooting pain in his upper nasal passages. About a week later, bouts of diarrhea in the morning, and a dull constant headache set in. Then a congested feeling in the sinuses, kind of like allergies, but allergy meds didn't touch it. Then the dry cough set in followed by serious exhaustion in 4 days and shortness of breath right on it's heels. Symptoms of Covid usually become strong, if they are going to become strong, after about 6 days from the first presentation. We'd been doing a home baked prophylaxis with 100mg of artemisinin and zinc among other things, and I believe that slowed the manifestation of symptoms down. But it wasn't sufficient to stop the thing. We'd been being careful, but in our area, most people believe it is a full on hoax still. So in general, people conduct themselves the same as before Covid 19 came into being. At any rate, he has RA, and probable Lyme, so we took precautions as those maladies make one more susceptible to getting this in a more dangerous fashion. I believe there are things we can do to mitigate the damage. But I still have a great number of unanswered questions. First off, will a regimen of HCQ along with zinc help to combat the effects of the long haul? Can it help to mitigate reinfection? Also if you don’t mind me asking: what blood type is your husband and what blood type are you? Below, I will post his continuing symptoms, and what we are trying to do to help prevent more damage to organs, and mitigation of symptoms. But I'd like to start kind of a think tank here, and get the people of GLP working together to help address the 1/3 of people who get Covid that deal with the "long haul syndrome." Please chime in if you or a loved one has had Covid and share what you are doing to address lingering symptoms/effects of this. I am sorry to hear about your husband. I have done a tone a research reading medical reports, speaking to people who have it, and talking to clients who are doctors. Was your husband Vitamin D deficient or not taking Vitamin D supplements prior to getting Covid? Look up Vitamin D deficiency Covid-19 in Google Scholar. HCQ + Zinc seems to only works after the first 6 days having symptoms. Meaning once you start feeling symptoms you have to take that combination and after the 6 days it isn’t helpful and can actually possible be harmful (ergo the studies being broadcasted in the media). HCQ plus Zinc has worked for some beyond the 6 day period but is risky and possibly might not work either. This can also be verified too on Google scholar. I truly hope your husband gets better soon. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 12964744 United States 08/02/2020 12:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I’ve had similar problems. I got a what I thought was a bad head cold/flu back in January. Started getting sore, had a cough then started getting heart palpitations all the time. The heart palpitations have gone away mostly. I still get them occasionally. My doctors figured it was just anxiety. Here I am 7 months later. Having constant body pain from head to toe, horrible headache most days and when it’s not it’s just a dull pain. Sharp pains in my neck and throat. Pain in my ears. Sinus pressure, in the last 2 weeks started getting pains on my right side, thinking it’s my kidney. Bowels have been messed up on and off. Either really fatigued or can’t sleep.Pain in the testicles sometime. Been trying all kinds of stuff. So far naproxen to help with the pain and seroquel so I can actually get some sleep when the pain is to bad at night. Have another doctors appointment in a week. I was thinking about getting the antibody test to see what it says before I go back. My doctor hasn’t really brought up COVID but I keep seeing all these stories that seem similar to mine that it makes me think I might have had COVID and these are just lasting effects. |
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