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This Dr. explores some theories about what's causing this.
Elevated cytokines?

Relatively short and worth a watch for anyone suffering long term symptoms.

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 Quoting: CK Dexter Haven


elevated cytokines aren't a thing. its lack a vitamin D plain and simple. Vitamin D regulates cytokines.
 Quoting: mr dull socks


Elevated cytokines are a thing, but vitamin D deficiency causing covid mortality seems to be a thing. Just search Vitamin D deficiency covid-19 in Google Scholar and cite an article published by medical professional that is peer reviewed (ie the higher the number of times an article is cited the more reliable it is). For example, this medical article has been cited 284 times [link to www.mdpi.com (secure)]

Just saying if you want to prove a point, try citing intelligent sources opposed to some YouTube video.
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The days before the great distancing
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First off, I know there are a great number of people who think Covid is total bunk. Please don't bother here. Soon enough, you or someone you love will experience it and you will accept that it's an actual thing. So, please just move on. I'm going to monitor the thread and won't tolerate a bunch of bs flags, etc.

What I am interested in is actually addressing the problem and finding solutions/ameliorating help in fighting against reinfection or continued effects of having this Chinese bioweapon hitting our bodies.

Yes, this is personal. My husband has this, and it is debilitating to him, hence to me. I'm going to run through the ramp up to getting the Covid diagnoses, and then the symptoms that he is still having over a month after knowing what we are dealing with.

In mid June, he began to get a sporadic stinging-shooting pain in his upper nasal passages. About a week later, bouts of diarrhea in the morning, and a dull constant headache set in. Then a congested feeling in the sinuses, kind of like allergies, but allergy meds didn't touch it. Then the dry cough set in followed by serious exhaustion in 4 days and shortness of breath right on it's heels.

Symptoms of Covid usually become strong, if they are going to become strong, after about 6 days from the first presentation. We'd been doing a home baked prophylaxis with 100mg of artemisinin and zinc among other things, and I believe that slowed the manifestation of symptoms down. But it wasn't sufficient to stop the thing.

We'd been being careful, but in our area, most people believe it is a full on hoax still. So in general, people conduct themselves the same as before Covid 19 came into being.

At any rate, he has RA, and probable Lyme, so we took precautions as those maladies make one more susceptible to getting this in a more dangerous fashion.

I believe there are things we can do to mitigate the damage. But I still have a great number of unanswered questions.

First off, will a regimen of HCQ along with zinc help to combat the effects of the long haul? Can it help to mitigate reinfection?

Also if you don’t mind me asking: what blood type is your husband and what blood type are you?

Below, I will post his continuing symptoms, and what we are trying to do to help prevent more damage to organs, and mitigation of symptoms.

But I'd like to start kind of a think tank here, and get the people of GLP working together to help address the 1/3 of people who get Covid that deal with the "long haul syndrome."

Please chime in if you or a loved one has had Covid and share what you are doing to address lingering symptoms/effects of this.
 Quoting: Fluffy Pancakes


I am sorry to hear about your husband. I have done a tone a research reading medical reports, speaking to people who have it, and talking to clients who are doctors.

Was your husband Vitamin D deficient or not taking Vitamin D supplements prior to getting Covid? Look up Vitamin D deficiency Covid-19 in Google Scholar.

HCQ + Zinc seems to only works after the first 6 days having symptoms. Meaning once you start feeling symptoms you have to take that combination and after the 6 days it isn’t helpful and can actually possible be harmful (ergo the studies being broadcasted in the media). HCQ plus Zinc has worked for some beyond the 6 day period but is risky and possibly might not work either. This can also be verified too on Google scholar.

I truly hope your husband gets better soon.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79093586


Thank you. We were supplementing on D3 and K2 prior. Religiously since the end of January. Also out in the sun quite a bit, so I don't think seriously deficient in D. But with the RA and probable Lyme, I am willing to concede that there may be a greater need for D than we were supplementing with.

We do eat much higher quality then average as in lots of fresh greens, some fruit, and our own homegrown natural meat, milk and eggs.

Honestly, we've been managing the RA quite well with diet and supplements, but...sadly...I obviously failed in preventing this as well. :(
Things are bad enough, there is no need to make anything up. ~Fluffy

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This Dr. explores some theories about what's causing this.
Elevated cytokines?

Relatively short and worth a watch for anyone suffering long term symptoms.
 Quoting: CK Dexter Haven


elevated cytokines aren't a thing. its lack a vitamin D plain and simple. Vitamin D regulates cytokines.
 Quoting: mr dull socks

They can measure cytokine levels, and they're finding elevated levels in many of these patients suffering long term effects. So elevated cytokines are in fact a "thing".

I don't disagree with you about the importance of Vit D. But it's not the whole picture.
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This Dr. explores some theories about what's causing this.
Elevated cytokines?

Relatively short and worth a watch for anyone suffering long term symptoms.

[link to youtu.be (secure)]
 Quoting: CK Dexter Haven


elevated cytokines aren't a thing. its lack a vitamin D plain and simple. Vitamin D regulates cytokines.
 Quoting: mr dull socks


Elevated cytokines are a thing, but vitamin D deficiency causing covid mortality seems to be a thing. Just search Vitamin D deficiency covid-19 in Google Scholar and cite an article published by medical professional that is peer reviewed (ie the higher the number of times an article is cited the more reliable it is). For example, this medical article has been cited 284 times [link to www.mdpi.com (secure)]

Just saying if you want to prove a point, try citing intelligent sources opposed to some YouTube video.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79093586


He didn't post the video, I did. Apparently he was refuting something without having actually watched what the Dr. had to say.

I was not trying to make any kind of point at all. Just that the doctor is exploring the possible causes of these long term symptoms and they are finding many of them have elevated cytokines.

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I'm glad you kick all the bs off this thread. The Chinese Wuhan virus is totally real and totally deadly.
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So deadly it killed 0.020=0.03% who catch it. And another 80% don't even know they have it. Ooooh big scary virus. This plandemic to usher in a great depression should scare you more.
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I know alot of people in the healthcare field and the virus is very real and very deadly.
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Has anyone tried fresh crushed garlic?
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Boil a chicken add garlic and onions let it simmer

I you can eat raw garlic and onions

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First off, I know there are a great number of people who think Covid is total bunk. Please don't bother here. Soon enough, you or someone you love will experience it and you will accept that it's an actual thing. So, please just move on. I'm going to monitor the thread and won't tolerate a bunch of bs flags, etc.

What I am interested in is actually addressing the problem and finding solutions/ameliorating help in fighting against reinfection or continued effects of having this Chinese bioweapon hitting our bodies.

Yes, this is personal. My husband has this, and it is debilitating to him, hence to me. I'm going to run through the ramp up to getting the Covid diagnoses, and then the symptoms that he is still having over a month after knowing what we are dealing with.

In mid June, he began to get a sporadic stinging-shooting pain in his upper nasal passages. About a week later, bouts of diarrhea in the morning, and a dull constant headache set in. Then a congested feeling in the sinuses, kind of like allergies, but allergy meds didn't touch it. Then the dry cough set in followed by serious exhaustion in 4 days and shortness of breath right on it's heels.

Symptoms of Covid usually become strong, if they are going to become strong, after about 6 days from the first presentation. We'd been doing a home baked prophylaxis with 100mg of artemisinin and zinc among other things, and I believe that slowed the manifestation of symptoms down. But it wasn't sufficient to stop the thing.

We'd been being careful, but in our area, most people believe it is a full on hoax still. So in general, people conduct themselves the same as before Covid 19 came into being.

At any rate, he has RA, and probable Lyme, so we took precautions as those maladies make one more susceptible to getting this in a more dangerous fashion.

I believe there are things we can do to mitigate the damage. But I still have a great number of unanswered questions.

First off, will a regimen of HCQ along with zinc help to combat the effects of the long haul? Can it help to mitigate reinfection?

Below, I will post his continuing symptoms, and what we are trying to do to help prevent more damage to organs, and mitigation of symptoms.

But I'd like to start kind of a think tank here, and get the people of GLP working together to help address the 1/3 of people who get Covid that deal with the "long haul syndrome."

Please chime in if you or a loved one has had Covid and share what you are doing to address lingering symptoms/effects of this.
 Quoting: Fluffy Pancakes


Let me guess - your hubby is fat and lives on a diet of Hungarian salami, cheese, Oreos and Coke. Might I suggest some exercise and vitamins and leafy greens? He'll then be able to shake off the CONvid "virus" as if it were a mosquito.
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No you inimitable dick slap. 5'11 150. So bite yourself. And drop some teeth in there while you're at it.

Banned.
Things are bad enough, there is no need to make anything up. ~Fluffy

"Never interrupt an enemy in the process of destroying himself."

Quercitin and zinc...Get it. Take it.

Visit howbad.info...If you took the shot, for sure.
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HCQ works. Not sure why you arent on it yet. and please check out MMS. Here is my thread.

Thread: Sodium Chlorite / Miracle Mineral Solution (MMS) / Chlorine Dioxide (CD) - Denatures Spike Protein, Reverse Illnesses, Cancer, Malaria, Cleanse
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Has anyone actually tried it, though?
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We had HCQ in Plaquenil form (which is the same thing) from his RA diagnosis. So he did a 10 day round of that with zinc and a bunch of supplements. We finally rec'd a scrip for azithormycin a day after he finished the 10 days of HCQ with zinc. According to what I have read, the HCQ should remain in the system at strength for about 40 days. After the Z pack, he showed some improvement beginning on day 3. But it wasn't extreme, really. Kind of like going from 5 mph to maybe 20 instead of the desired 55mph.
Things are bad enough, there is no need to make anything up. ~Fluffy

"Never interrupt an enemy in the process of destroying himself."

Quercitin and zinc...Get it. Take it.

Visit howbad.info...If you took the shot, for sure.
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Has anyone actually tried it, though?
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Which? MMS? I've been taking MMS for 4 months. Zero fears of Covid. Had got it in CA, never had any bad symptoms. Got over it in a few days. Worst symptom was some sore chest.

Please read through my MMS thread. I spent alot of time compiling information about the solution.

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This Dr. explores some theories about what's causing this.
Elevated cytokines?

Relatively short and worth a watch for anyone suffering long term symptoms.
 Quoting: CK Dexter Haven


elevated cytokines aren't a thing. its lack a vitamin D plain and simple. Vitamin D regulates cytokines.
 Quoting: mr dull socks

They can measure cytokine levels, and they're finding elevated levels in many of these patients suffering long term effects. So elevated cytokines are in fact a "thing".

I don't disagree with you about the importance of Vit D. But it's not the whole picture.
 Quoting: CK Dexter Haven


the body only produces cytokines in the presence of free radicals. if there are no free radicals in the body there are no cytokines. cells produce cytokines when they arent clear on how to combat a pathogen. if there are sufficient levels of vitamin D in the bloodstream excessive cytokines arent produced.

when i said "elevated cytokines arent a thing" i was saying that in reference to a body absent of free radicals. the body doesnt just "produce" cytokines for no reason. "elevated" implies that there is a "normal" amount at any given time. this isnt the case as it pertains to cytokines.

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This Dr. explores some theories about what's causing this.
Elevated cytokines?

Relatively short and worth a watch for anyone suffering long term symptoms.

[link to youtu.be (secure)]
 Quoting: CK Dexter Haven


elevated cytokines aren't a thing. its lack a vitamin D plain and simple. Vitamin D regulates cytokines.
 Quoting: mr dull socks


Elevated cytokines are a thing, but vitamin D deficiency causing covid mortality seems to be a thing. Just search Vitamin D deficiency covid-19 in Google Scholar and cite an article published by medical professional that is peer reviewed (ie the higher the number of times an article is cited the more reliable it is). For example, this medical article has been cited 284 times [link to www.mdpi.com (secure)]

Just saying if you want to prove a point, try citing intelligent sources opposed to some YouTube video.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79093586


He didn't post the video, I did. Apparently he was refuting something without having actually watched what the Dr. had to say.

I was not trying to make any kind of point at all. Just that the doctor is exploring the possible causes of these long term symptoms and they are finding many of them have elevated cytokines.
 Quoting: CK Dexter Haven


i know more than the Dr. i can assure you of that.
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First off, I know there are a great number of people who think Covid is total bunk. Please don't bother here. Soon enough, you or someone you love will experience it and you will accept that it's an actual thing. So, please just move on. I'm going to monitor the thread and won't tolerate a bunch of bs flags, etc.

What I am interested in is actually addressing the problem and finding solutions/ameliorating help in fighting against reinfection or continued effects of having this Chinese bioweapon hitting our bodies.

Yes, this is personal. My husband has this, and it is debilitating to him, hence to me. I'm going to run through the ramp up to getting the Covid diagnoses, and then the symptoms that he is still having over a month after knowing what we are dealing with.

In mid June, he began to get a sporadic stinging-shooting pain in his upper nasal passages. About a week later, bouts of diarrhea in the morning, and a dull constant headache set in. Then a congested feeling in the sinuses, kind of like allergies, but allergy meds didn't touch it. Then the dry cough set in followed by serious exhaustion in 4 days and shortness of breath right on it's heels.

Symptoms of Covid usually become strong, if they are going to become strong, after about 6 days from the first presentation. We'd been doing a home baked prophylaxis with 100mg of artemisinin and zinc among other things, and I believe that slowed the manifestation of symptoms down. But it wasn't sufficient to stop the thing.

We'd been being careful, but in our area, most people believe it is a full on hoax still. So in general, people conduct themselves the same as before Covid 19 came into being.

At any rate, he has RA, and probable Lyme, so we took precautions as those maladies make one more susceptible to getting this in a more dangerous fashion.

I believe there are things we can do to mitigate the damage. But I still have a great number of unanswered questions.

First off, will a regimen of HCQ along with zinc help to combat the effects of the long haul? Can it help to mitigate reinfection?

Below, I will post his continuing symptoms, and what we are trying to do to help prevent more damage to organs, and mitigation of symptoms.

But I'd like to start kind of a think tank here, and get the people of GLP working together to help address the 1/3 of people who get Covid that deal with the "long haul syndrome."

Please chime in if you or a loved one has had Covid and share what you are doing to address lingering symptoms/effects of this.
 Quoting: Fluffy Pancakes


First thing I would do is get him and you some Ivermectin the same stuff as the farm supply. The horse dose is for a 1250 lb horse so if you are 200 pounds roughly call it one of the increments.

Should give you 6 doses total.

This is supposed to reduce infection time and fatality by 2/3rds. I have a tube in case we get this stuff.

Next would be zinc, selenium, magnesium and b-12 complex without vitamin C in the B-12.

Follow that with a dropper full of lugol's iodine. A dropper full of 5% is roughly 250mg plus of iodine. It will start to protect your throat and thyroid.

Iodine is key for fighting infections as well.

One pinch of 20 muleteam borax in your coffee each day.

Two tablespoons of castor oil medicinal/food grade. Ricinoleic acid fights all kinds of infections and other problems.

Aspirin to help thin your blood and mitigate the effects of blood clotting.

Possibly elderberries depending on how it responds with covid.
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This Dr. explores some theories about what's causing this.
Elevated cytokines?

Relatively short and worth a watch for anyone suffering long term symptoms.
 Quoting: CK Dexter Haven


elevated cytokines aren't a thing. its lack a vitamin D plain and simple. Vitamin D regulates cytokines.
 Quoting: mr dull socks

They can measure cytokine levels, and they're finding elevated levels in many of these patients suffering long term effects. So elevated cytokines are in fact a "thing".

I don't disagree with you about the importance of Vit D. But it's not the whole picture.
 Quoting: CK Dexter Haven


the body only produces cytokines in the presence of free radicals. if there are no free radicals in the body there are no cytokines. cells produce cytokines when they arent clear on how to combat a pathogen. if there are sufficient levels of vitamin D in the bloodstream excessive cytokines arent produced.

when i said "elevated cytokines arent a thing" i was saying that in reference to a body absent of free radicals. the body doesnt just "produce" cytokines for no reason. "elevated" implies that there is a "normal" amount at any given time. this isnt the case as it pertains to cytokines.
 Quoting: mr dull socks


This is new to me.

So, free radicals are generally oxidizing chemicals (if you will), and both C and D are effective at getting rid of free radicals. Correct?

If one were to elevate supplementation of both of those, do you think it would mitigate the free radicals to the point that the body could effectively ward this off?

Obviously, prevention is better than trying to cure. Appreciate your thoughts!
Things are bad enough, there is no need to make anything up. ~Fluffy

"Never interrupt an enemy in the process of destroying himself."

Quercitin and zinc...Get it. Take it.

Visit howbad.info...If you took the shot, for sure.
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It's too late, I didn't read. But, when I get a chance, I will.

Here is a post that someone ;) wrote. It's my go to for each and every symptom "covid" presents:

[link to peakd.com (secure)]

when you think of "covid", instead think of h3n2 + Toxoplasma + some sort of artificial-phlegm-bot. When you break it up like that, the symptoms make sense.

If you have q's ask.

Oh, there is also this thread:

Thread: Ivermectin - How To Cure Your Horse of Coronavirus *
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This Dr. explores some theories about what's causing this.
Elevated cytokines?

Relatively short and worth a watch for anyone suffering long term symptoms.
 Quoting: CK Dexter Haven


elevated cytokines aren't a thing. its lack a vitamin D plain and simple. Vitamin D regulates cytokines.
 Quoting: mr dull socks

They can measure cytokine levels, and they're finding elevated levels in many of these patients suffering long term effects. So elevated cytokines are in fact a "thing".

I don't disagree with you about the importance of Vit D. But it's not the whole picture.
 Quoting: CK Dexter Haven


the body only produces cytokines in the presence of free radicals. if there are no free radicals in the body there are no cytokines. cells produce cytokines when they arent clear on how to combat a pathogen. if there are sufficient levels of vitamin D in the bloodstream excessive cytokines arent produced.

when i said "elevated cytokines arent a thing" i was saying that in reference to a body absent of free radicals. the body doesnt just "produce" cytokines for no reason. "elevated" implies that there is a "normal" amount at any given time. this isnt the case as it pertains to cytokines.
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Maybe a lab modified virus from China has something to do with it?

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elevated cytokines aren't a thing. its lack a vitamin D plain and simple. Vitamin D regulates cytokines.
 Quoting: mr dull socks


Elevated cytokines are a thing, but vitamin D deficiency causing covid mortality seems to be a thing. Just search Vitamin D deficiency covid-19 in Google Scholar and cite an article published by medical professional that is peer reviewed (ie the higher the number of times an article is cited the more reliable it is). For example, this medical article has been cited 284 times [link to www.mdpi.com (secure)]

Just saying if you want to prove a point, try citing intelligent sources opposed to some YouTube video.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79093586


He didn't post the video, I did. Apparently he was refuting something without having actually watched what the Dr. had to say.

I was not trying to make any kind of point at all. Just that the doctor is exploring the possible causes of these long term symptoms and they are finding many of them have elevated cytokines.
 Quoting: CK Dexter Haven


i know more than the Dr. i can assure you of that.
 Quoting: mr dull socks

You sure do seem like a know-it-all

Funny thing is I never disagreed with you at all. You disagreed with a doctor in a video you didn't even watch. I'm just the middle man, lol.
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the body only produces cytokines in the presence of free radicals. if there are no free radicals in the body there are no cytokines. cells produce cytokines when they arent clear on how to combat a pathogen. if there are sufficient levels of vitamin D in the bloodstream excessive cytokines arent produced.

when i said "elevated cytokines arent a thing" i was saying that in reference to a body absent of free radicals. the body doesnt just "produce" cytokines for no reason. "elevated" implies that there is a "normal" amount at any given time. this isnt the case as it pertains to cytokines.
 Quoting: mr dull socks


This is new to me.

So, free radicals are generally oxidizing chemicals (if you will), and both C and D are effective at getting rid of free radicals. Correct?

If one were to elevate supplementation of both of those, do you think it would mitigate the free radicals to the point that the body could effectively ward this off?

Obviously, prevention is better than trying to cure. Appreciate your thoughts!
 Quoting: Fluffy Pancakes


Yes, it would, but!

I do not believe that covid is just a virus. If it were, C and D alone would beat it if the quality and quantity of C and D was appropriately matched to maturity of the viral infection. As far as the viral aspect of "covid" goes, I believe the viral aspect of "covid" is a type of h3n2.

I also believe that "covid" is partially a toxoplasma infection, and partially a nano-bot that creates a lot of, um, synthetic phlegm... for lack of a better description. C and D will help with the Toxoplasma, but Capryllic Acid, Ivermectin, or other anti-parasitic substances are a much faster and more effective approach.

For the synthetic phlegm, you need to loosen it up and get it out. Look at the link I referred to above to see all the therapies aimed at clearing phlegm.
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elevated cytokines aren't a thing. its lack a vitamin D plain and simple. Vitamin D regulates cytokines.
 Quoting: mr dull socks

They can measure cytokine levels, and they're finding elevated levels in many of these patients suffering long term effects. So elevated cytokines are in fact a "thing".

I don't disagree with you about the importance of Vit D. But it's not the whole picture.
 Quoting: CK Dexter Haven


the body only produces cytokines in the presence of free radicals. if there are no free radicals in the body there are no cytokines. cells produce cytokines when they arent clear on how to combat a pathogen. if there are sufficient levels of vitamin D in the bloodstream excessive cytokines arent produced.

when i said "elevated cytokines arent a thing" i was saying that in reference to a body absent of free radicals. the body doesnt just "produce" cytokines for no reason. "elevated" implies that there is a "normal" amount at any given time. this isnt the case as it pertains to cytokines.
 Quoting: mr dull socks


This is new to me.

So, free radicals are generally oxidizing chemicals (if you will), and both C and D are effective at getting rid of free radicals. Correct?

If one were to elevate supplementation of both of those, do you think it would mitigate the free radicals to the point that the body could effectively ward this off?

Obviously, prevention is better than trying to cure. Appreciate your thoughts!
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you are half correct. i will explain it like this. every cell has a knife, hand gun, and a machine gun it can use to fight pathogens. it doesnt know what to use unless it receives a message from a vitamin D molecule. As i mentioned, Vitamin D "explains" to the cells how to fight a pathogen. when the body detect that a pathogen has entered into the body, each and every cell in the entire body sends out a receptor. this receptor is waiting for a molecule of vitamin D to bind to it. if the Vitamin D it binds to has first been to the brain it is encoded with a message which tells the cells which weapon to use when it encounters a pathogen. if it doesnt get this message BEFORE it encounters a pathogen the cell will default to the machine gun (this is a cytokine storm) and shoot anything and everything in sight. if the body gets the vitmain D before it encounters a pathogen it will know that it can kill the pathogen with the knife, so no excessive cytokines are produced.

vitamin D doesnt directly combat free radicals it just explains to the cells how to do it. the vitamin C however DOES work directly on free radicals. now that i have re read your OP and knowing that you are dealing with RA and lyme. i would say you could dose up to 25-30,000 mg of liposomal C. It would be best if you could get IV vitamin C but liposomal should work.
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First off, I know there are a great number of people who think Covid is total bunk. Please don't bother here. Soon enough, you or someone you love will experience it and you will accept that it's an actual thing. So, please just move on. I'm going to monitor the thread and won't tolerate a bunch of bs flags, etc.

What I am interested in is actually addressing the problem and finding solutions/ameliorating help in fighting against reinfection or continued effects of having this Chinese bioweapon hitting our bodies.

Yes, this is personal. My husband has this, and it is debilitating to him, hence to me. I'm going to run through the ramp up to getting the Covid diagnoses, and then the symptoms that he is still having over a month after knowing what we are dealing with.

In mid June, he began to get a sporadic stinging-shooting pain in his upper nasal passages. About a week later, bouts of diarrhea in the morning, and a dull constant headache set in. Then a congested feeling in the sinuses, kind of like allergies, but allergy meds didn't touch it. Then the dry cough set in followed by serious exhaustion in 4 days and shortness of breath right on it's heels.

Symptoms of Covid usually become strong, if they are going to become strong, after about 6 days from the first presentation. We'd been doing a home baked prophylaxis with 100mg of artemisinin and zinc among other things, and I believe that slowed the manifestation of symptoms down. But it wasn't sufficient to stop the thing.

We'd been being careful, but in our area, most people believe it is a full on hoax still. So in general, people conduct themselves the same as before Covid 19 came into being.

At any rate, he has RA, and probable Lyme, so we took precautions as those maladies make one more susceptible to getting this in a more dangerous fashion.

I believe there are things we can do to mitigate the damage. But I still have a great number of unanswered questions.

First off, will a regimen of HCQ along with zinc help to combat the effects of the long haul? Can it help to mitigate reinfection?

Below, I will post his continuing symptoms, and what we are trying to do to help prevent more damage to organs, and mitigation of symptoms.

But I'd like to start kind of a think tank here, and get the people of GLP working together to help address the 1/3 of people who get Covid that deal with the "long haul syndrome."

Please chime in if you or a loved one has had Covid and share what you are doing to address lingering symptoms/effects of this.
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How many people have died if you believe the numbers at face value, including presumptive cases?
Answer: 155,000

How many people have likely died of the actual virus?
Answer: 1/3 of 155K (putting it closer to a bad flu season)

Does Hyrdox work?
Answer: Yes, if taken with zinc

Does the NWO have plans for "beating" this?
If by "beating this" you mean getting rid of the perceived threat, absolutely not. In case you haven't noticed, the laws and mandates are getting stricter 5 months in.
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I work in a lab. I do not think it exists in the way the media portrays it. The reasoning behind pcr testing is shoddy at best. You will probably delete this but I just want you to know I would have it if it’s real. I may or may not have been taking positive results and mixing it with saline and putting it in my eyes. Same with positive flu results. Never got the flu either. Been doing it for years.
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the body only produces cytokines in the presence of free radicals. if there are no free radicals in the body there are no cytokines. cells produce cytokines when they arent clear on how to combat a pathogen. if there are sufficient levels of vitamin D in the bloodstream excessive cytokines arent produced.

when i said "elevated cytokines arent a thing" i was saying that in reference to a body absent of free radicals. the body doesnt just "produce" cytokines for no reason. "elevated" implies that there is a "normal" amount at any given time. this isnt the case as it pertains to cytokines.
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This is new to me.

So, free radicals are generally oxidizing chemicals (if you will), and both C and D are effective at getting rid of free radicals. Correct?

If one were to elevate supplementation of both of those, do you think it would mitigate the free radicals to the point that the body could effectively ward this off?

Obviously, prevention is better than trying to cure. Appreciate your thoughts!
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Yes, it would, but!

I do not believe that covid is just a virus. If it were, C and D alone would beat it if the quality and quantity of C and D was appropriately matched to maturity of the viral infection. As far as the viral aspect of "covid" goes, I believe the viral aspect of "covid" is a type of h3n2.

I also believe that "covid" is partially a toxoplasma infection, and partially a nano-bot that creates a lot of, um, synthetic phlegm... for lack of a better description. C and D will help with the Toxoplasma, but Capryllic Acid, Ivermectin, or other anti-parasitic substances are a much faster and more effective approach.

For the synthetic phlegm, you need to loosen it up and get it out. Look at the link I referred to above to see all the therapies aimed at clearing phlegm.
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this is why i mentioned colloidal silver. There was a DARPA study that was declassified that showed the effectiveness of colloidal silver on ebola. I believe it would respond similarly against the "nano-bot" portion of COVID
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Right. I read that, too! I wish I were better at organzing things on the computer. I've read so many studies it gets messy in my head. Lol.

But yes, tightness in the chest, heart palpitations....They continue.

The exhaustion has improved! He was sleeping 16 to 18 hours a day for 2 weeks. Now it's just 12 and every other day he can do a little light stuff like pick some garden produce and feed animals for about 2 hours.

So there is hope. I just want to work with others and find solutions!
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Have you considered Reishi for relaxation and breathing aid? Chamomile & Reishi is a delicious tea.
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I appreciate all of your thoughts on this!

Ck, I think you're awesome. hf

And I do hope this will help others as well.

Need to buy more lipo C now. I've been using the ascorbic acid powder myself in water of late as the lipo gets kind of expensive.

I guess that all of our supplementation has been helpful, but not enough in light of this manmade garbage.

It's not really fun living in interesting times as we are now.
Things are bad enough, there is no need to make anything up. ~Fluffy

"Never interrupt an enemy in the process of destroying himself."

Quercitin and zinc...Get it. Take it.

Visit howbad.info...If you took the shot, for sure.
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First thing I would do is get him and you some Ivermectin the same stuff as the farm supply. The horse dose is for a 1250 lb horse so if you are 200 pounds roughly call it one of the increments.

Should give you 6 doses total.

This is supposed to reduce infection time and fatality by 2/3rds. I have a tube in case we get this stuff.
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According to the docs that use it, 2 doses should be enough, taken one day and then the next. Some patients have required more (on consecutive days), but 6 doses is probably more than anyone needs. FYI

Great info, though.

Next would be zinc, selenium, magnesium and b-12 complex without vitamin C in the B-12.
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I would add daily Quercetin to this. It is basically a drop-in substitute for HCQ, and you can get it at any health food store.

Follow that with a dropper full of lugol's iodine. A dropper full of 5% is roughly 250mg plus of iodine. It will start to protect your throat and thyroid.

Iodine is key for fighting infections as well.
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Not sure I would use this as a direct part of the regimen, but... okay.

One pinch of 20 muleteam borax in your coffee each day.
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While I like boron, this can kill intestinal flora and cause related issues. Always eat additional yogurt or kefir or take a good probiotic like 30 or so minutes after you take boron this way.

Two tablespoons of castor oil medicinal/food grade. Ricinoleic acid fights all kinds of infections and other problems.
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This is also good for parasites, but... take it easy on the castor oil. I take it like once a year, so... yeah, be gentle on your poor GI tract.

Aspirin to help thin your blood and mitigate the effects of blood clotting.
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Rid yourself of the parasites, and you are good with the blood clotting.

If you are in a compromised state and need to thin your blood, use cod liver oil. You can get it in capsules, and its great for you. It takes a few days to get a strong thinning effect.

Here is a good overview article (although, "1½ tablespoons of fish oil twice daily" is more than I would recommend):

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Possibly elderberries depending on how it responds with covid.
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Elderberry, Bilberry or Blueberry are all wonderful responses to anything blood-bourne. I am not sure how I would use them therapeutically with regard to "covid", but... okay.
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this is why i mentioned colloidal silver. There was a DARPA study that was declassified that showed the effectiveness of colloidal silver on ebola. I believe it would respond similarly against the "nano-bot" portion of COVID
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I would love to read this study. I think you may be on to something that I have not considered. Please, if you have the article, link it!

TIA
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Need to buy more lipo C now. I've been using the ascorbic acid powder myself in water of late as the lipo gets kind of expensive.
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I can write a post on DIY lipo-c. There are actually a number of well ranked pages / sites on making your own liposomal C that are completely wrong. Like, you will never make lipo-c using their instructions.

However, it is very easy. You need a blender, an ultra-sonic cleaner, ascorbic acid powder, baking soda, and sunflower lecithin. Up front cost is about $200... with that you can make over 1000 doses.

Ask if you are interested
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That pic is the morning round of supplements.

Pretty sure I got them all in there. Here's what they are:

Quercitin with 22mg of zinc
Zinc
EDTA to help with any blood clotting arteriosclerosis issues
Serrapetase
Vitamin E
Liposomal C (7200mg minimum per day)
Vitamin D
Lion's Mane
Chaga
Turmeric (for infammation and clotting)
Selenium
Magnesium theronate

We are getting Xtendovite in next week to help with heart issues which he is also feeling.
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In my experience, Chaga is like Echinacea in that it's very powerful at first then one starts building a tolerance.
I only use them if I 'feel something coming on'.





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