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hershy
User ID: 76542590 United States 08/02/2020 02:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I recently took my teenager to get shoes at the closest largest mall. We went to Champs, Finish Line, etc. The entire mall looked pretty skimpy. Half of Macy's was bare too. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78860993 Anyway, the shoe stores appear to have a lot of shoes until you start asking about them. My teen points to a pair and says he wants his size to try on. The guy says, "well, uh... that's the only pair we have and it's a return." He repeats for other models. The same result... they have one pair and it's the display and whatever size it happens to be. Basically the display pairs were most of their inventory. So if sporting footwear/clothing stores are doing this. I can see what the OP is saying about "creating the illusion" of having inventory. I've got hundreds of shoes I bought at rummage sales over the years and candles,starting doing this when Obama was in.Thought this would have happened under Obama. hershy |
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Lester User ID: 13234408 United States 08/02/2020 02:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Covid lockdown resulted in many supply chain disasters. #1, Grocers... Most urban dwellers eat one or more meals "out" on daily basis. Brown bagging it isn't very popular, so most workers got their lunch, and many got their dinner or breakfast prepared somewhere other than home. Those meal supplying channels were mostly shutdown. Figure the grocers had a large number of new shoppers buying much more food. Just In Time Inventory methods and the same optimized warehousing of distributors could not meet the unforecast 40% or greater surge in demand. Restaurant supply houses saw their demand drop through the floor. Abundant food in America, but the distribution of that food could not be reconfigured quickly. As the food supplies began to catch grocers up on supply, the vast increase in demand consumed what was available. Great amount of packaging, cans, boxes, labels and preservatives etc had been sourced from China for years. Those resources are still not back online, nor is there an expectation for their resumption. Most "in-demand" foods packed for some degree of long shelf life are sold-out. Lesser quality brands have taken their place; for now. Lots of lost food due to handling problems and processing delays. The official advisors recommending citizens build a pantry resource for their food needs are further stressing the distribution networks. Of course, having longterm food storage at home is a great idea! Yet when food storage for 330 million Americans becomes the goal, and fewer than half of those people were relying on grocers for even half their meals, it means there isn't capacity to enable its happening. Understand that you have to get what you can find at the grocers when you find it. Supplies are unlikely to improve significantly anytime soon... Wholesalers and distributors aren't going to build new warehousing or go into debt to fund capacity for what is likely viewed as a short-term problem. #2 Building materials. In lockdown, America's tradesmen and DIYers had time and tools on hand, so they did projects they'd put off... Again, more unanticipated demand for capacity limited by the expected JIT inventory seasonal demands. About the only lumber imports, other than specialty woods like mahogany, come from Canada. Yet, most hardware, tools, and other plumbing and electric supplies were produced in China. All work done in America since Covid's outbreak has been reduced by distancing and other restrictions. Thus: shortages. Chinese sourced gear & supplies are backlogged with no resumption in sight. For the want of a nail... Just might come to be a reality. These are just 2 of the challenges facing our "consumer society". Virtually everything we buy has some component sourced from China or other foreign nation. Most of the foreign nations sourced their processed materials, chemicals, and components from China. What we are faced with is "What you see on the shelves is probably all you're going to be able to get"! Buying online? Don't hesitate. Might not remain in stock very long... Even if/when China resumes production and then shipments to customers, it will take months maybe years to build up inventories a restock retailer customers. Then, there's also the Trump/Xi tradewar and political blustering. What all this really points to is Your Need To Become As Self-Sufficient As Possible. Resale shops are already seeing big reductions in donations as people decide they'd best hold onto clothes and gear which they would have donated last year without any concern. There's only so much of what's available. Once it's gone, it's gone. You can depend on the fact that Essentials will inflate in price very strongly and non-Essentials will face close-out price reductions or sit on the retailers shelves forever. |
page8844 User ID: 72511948 United States 08/02/2020 02:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We're in this predicament because demonrats insisted we suck the China tit for everything we needed. Quoting: ~Jazz~ You're correct. I hate to see this happen, but we need to get away from China. Things will be lean for a while, but looking at this positively, this is an amazing business opportunity. Find those items that are needed most and start a company in the US. The only trouble is that the SBA loans are almost frozen right now. That needs to change. Uncle Sam needs to start pumping money into the manufacturing sector immediately! It's not just loans - it truly is investing in the future of the United States and National Security. President Trump is already bring back existing large businesses, but we must start new manufacturing here as well. THIS I agree completely |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79159952 United States 08/02/2020 02:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | All you need is a face mask, wear your seat-belt, drive 55, keep your kids in baby seats until puberty, wear a helmet, turn in your bump stock, make sure your guns arent practical for home protection, dont drink more than one beer per hour and recycle. The blacks and illegal aliens are here for our protection they will save us as long we elect a gay, elderly, nonbinary, pedophile to save us from russia. |
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RepublicofTexas
User ID: 79082059 Canada 08/02/2020 02:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Regarding all of the logging shows on TV and those massive piles of wood, all of that was destined for Far East destinations. China with their immense accumulation of wealth, is stripping the rest of the world of it's renewable and non-renewable resources. It appears China is still taking our logging products. Same in Australia. Massive forests being stripped. Make America Strong Again Make America Sexy Again I'm fukken this monkey, you just shut up and hold the tail." |
JimmyBones
(OP) User ID: 71819228 United States 08/02/2020 02:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's lowes and home depot... Quoting: ^TrInItY^ I can verify this at my local stores.. OP is telling the truth. You people better fucking listen. Guy at lowes told me they don't know if / when they will ever get pressure treated lumber back in stock. Wanted to redo some rotten boards on my deck. NOPE Yep. Don't have the kind of free time it would take to fucking make this shit up and post it. Thanks for reinforcing this fact Trin. These people better be ready for the long term. This fall/winter will be the most bleak of most of our lifetimes. |
JimmyBones
(OP) User ID: 71819228 United States 08/02/2020 02:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thanks for the post, OP. Quoting: Elegant Walnut I'm renovating an outbuilding to create a guest house for our parents (and possibly others) to stay in if there are hard times ahead. What should I get right now? I'll need plywood, lumber, plumbing and electrical fixtures, etc. If you need treated lumber and can find it you better just get it all now. It's kind of regional at this point so I can't speak about your area. |
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Deplorable Zenobia
User ID: 8648552 United States 08/02/2020 02:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Damn, I've been seeing the slow chipping away of product-on-shelves for a lot longer than beginning of this yr. Given the average consumer's buying habits of just-in-time ordering, of course we are at this point, people. Most folks don't even realize how much shit comes from outside of this country and I'm not just talking about plastic doodads from the Dollar Tree. Case in point - our medicines!!! I'm old enough to remember when it was a rarity to find something on a store shelf that WAS NOT made here in USA. Then NAFTA/CAFTA came along. Ross Perot warned us when he ran for presidency. I've posted this in other threads but BFF alerted me to a Forbes article saying Walmart was repositioning a big part of their biz model to include used items (think remanufactured, gently used items, etc). This is to help bridge the gap of products 'til our manufacturing gets back up-n-running. Hell, saw another piece not long ago that Wally World would turn some of their vast parking lots into drive-in movie theaters. Several yrs ago, I pointed out that a lot of the uppercrust (not the 1%ers) were now shoppers in the very same consignment stores and thrift shops they once would just donate to. And well, here we are today. And thought struggles against the results, trying to avoid those unpleasant results while keeping on with that way of thinking. That is what I call 'sustained incoherence.' ...David Bohm “How, O Zenobia, hast thou dared to insult Roman emperors?” ...Aurelian, 44th Emperor of the Roman Empire |
Secretizer
User ID: 71019363 United States 08/02/2020 02:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If it's Home Depot I hope they go down and collapse. They won't stop having their lazy retarded employees improprerly dispose of the RoundUp and weed killers - they just throw it in the trash where it will leak into the runoff and the EPA has a deal with them to allow it, in every store in every city. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 70742448 Fuck Home Depot. Fuck its retarded employees that are overworked by their unhealthy overweight staff. I hope you and your families all get generational cancer from your glorified and mandated retardation. Enjoy the Lymphoma. Well aren’t you a warm cup of sunshine! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78860993 United States 08/02/2020 02:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I work for a small General Contractor. Offices in VA, NC, SC, GA, and FL. We do about $50M in business a year. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78606897 We have experienced no delays in materials and have heard of no shortages either currently happening or happening in the future. It'll catch up to your area in time. Coronavirus pandemic causes shortage in lumber supplies [link to www.wflx.com (secure)] Pandemic causes lumber shortage [link to www.wwnytv.com (secure)] Home Renovation Business Booming, Even As Pandemic Causes Nationwide Lumber Shortages [link to losangeles.cbslocal.com (secure)] WHAT!!! LOWE'S IS OUT OF LUMBER? |
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Proud Trump Supporter
User ID: 79210768 United States 08/02/2020 02:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We're in this predicament because demonrats insisted we suck the China tit for everything we needed. Quoting: ~Jazz~ Exactly. Do people realize that 80% of American drugs are made in China and if the Damn floods... bye, bye American pie cuz there will be no drugs for the US to use. Trump is right to bring all of this manufacturing back home into the US. The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is. Winston Churchill Daily Updates Thread: ASS IS IN THE WRINGER - Rolling Updates from 11/16/20 to present (Page 235) |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 78645200 United States 08/02/2020 02:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | this is what happens in a situation where companies work on a just in time delivery profit model. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77750782 And then there is a pandemic. And buyers stop placing orders. Then a president who uses China, the main supplier of... everything, as a floormat. All of a sudden there is demand but everyone forgot to place orders on time. fearing tariffs, uncertainty. Im telling you it destroys trade. When trade stops it destroys lives. And this is just the beginning. If the USA does not start to re open asap and this trade war nonsense stops, then it is game over for the US economy. People do not seem to realise just how bad things are right now. And how bad it will get if we do not end this insanity asap. With all due respect to you, I think you need to look at a further horizon. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77750782 Netherlands 08/02/2020 02:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We're in this predicament because demonrats insisted we suck the China tit for everything we needed. Quoting: ~Jazz~ You're correct. I hate to see this happen, but we need to get away from China. Things will be lean for a while, but looking at this positively, this is an amazing business opportunity. Find those items that are needed most and start a company in the US. The only trouble is that the SBA loans are almost frozen right now. That needs to change. Uncle Sam needs to start pumping money into the manufacturing sector immediately! It's not just loans - it truly is investing in the future of the United States and National Security. President Trump is already bring back existing large businesses, but we must start new manufacturing here as well. THIS I agree completely I hate to tell you it is not up to you alone. Trump may selectively decide what they want to block from China but China can do the same. And their decisions will then impact the USA very very very hard. Critical components, equipment or goods for entire industries. You may have the dream of building everything in the USA but if you do it while pissing on China and expecting them to take it up the butt then you are in for a rude awakening. China can cripple the USA before any of your made in USA production dreams materialize. China can outcompete you on every level on the global markets. You may sell your 50$ hammer in the USA to fools while the rest of the world pays 1$. There is just no winning strategy in this made in the USA ideology. World markets will move, and the USA will just fall back further and further. not smart. But this is not the issue at hand here. It is fear, uncertainty that screws up your supplychains. Mostly because of Trump making the fatal mistake of mizing trade with politics and using trade extortion to force a political outcome. Believe me, people all over the world are watching. The USA is NOT a reliable partner anymore. Unpredictable, deceiving and manipulating. Not a winning combination. |
JimmyBones
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 77568399 United States 08/02/2020 02:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Covid lockdown resulted in many supply chain disasters. Quoting: Lester 13234408 #1, Grocers... Most urban dwellers eat one or more meals "out" on daily basis. Brown bagging it isn't very popular, so most workers got their lunch, and many got their dinner or breakfast prepared somewhere other than home. Those meal supplying channels were mostly shutdown. Figure the grocers had a large number of new shoppers buying much more food. Just In Time Inventory methods and the same optimized warehousing of distributors could not meet the unforecast 40% or greater surge in demand. Restaurant supply houses saw their demand drop through the floor. Abundant food in America, but the distribution of that food could not be reconfigured quickly. As the food supplies began to catch grocers up on supply, the vast increase in demand consumed what was available. Great amount of packaging, cans, boxes, labels and preservatives etc had been sourced from China for years. Those resources are still not back online, nor is there an expectation for their resumption. Most "in-demand" foods packed for some degree of long shelf life are sold-out. Lesser quality brands have taken their place; for now. Lots of lost food due to handling problems and processing delays. The official advisors recommending citizens build a pantry resource for their food needs are further stressing the distribution networks. Of course, having longterm food storage at home is a great idea! Yet when food storage for 330 million Americans becomes the goal, and fewer than half of those people were relying on grocers for even half their meals, it means there isn't capacity to enable its happening. Understand that you have to get what you can find at the grocers when you find it. Supplies are unlikely to improve significantly anytime soon... Wholesalers and distributors aren't going to build new warehousing or go into debt to fund capacity for what is likely viewed as a short-term problem. #2 Building materials. In lockdown, America's tradesmen and DIYers had time and tools on hand, so they did projects they'd put off... Again, more unanticipated demand for capacity limited by the expected JIT inventory seasonal demands. About the only lumber imports, other than specialty woods like mahogany, come from Canada. Yet, most hardware, tools, and other plumbing and electric supplies were produced in China. All work done in America since Covid's outbreak has been reduced by distancing and other restrictions. Thus: shortages. Chinese sourced gear & supplies are backlogged with no resumption in sight. For the want of a nail... Just might come to be a reality. These are just 2 of the challenges facing our "consumer society". Virtually everything we buy has some component sourced from China or other foreign nation. Most of the foreign nations sourced their processed materials, chemicals, and components from China. What we are faced with is "What you see on the shelves is probably all you're going to be able to get"! Buying online? Don't hesitate. Might not remain in stock very long... Even if/when China resumes production and then shipments to customers, it will take months maybe years to build up inventories a restock retailer customers. Then, there's also the Trump/Xi tradewar and political blustering. What all this really points to is Your Need To Become As Self-Sufficient As Possible. Resale shops are already seeing big reductions in donations as people decide they'd best hold onto clothes and gear which they would have donated last year without any concern. There's only so much of what's available. Once it's gone, it's gone. You can depend on the fact that Essentials will inflate in price very strongly and non-Essentials will face close-out price reductions or sit on the retailers shelves forever. There will always be plenty of clothes that communities can share with eachother However I doubt people would want used underwear and socks Stock up on new underwear and socks when you can. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77773715 United States 08/02/2020 02:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We're in this predicament because demonrats insisted we suck the China tit for everything we needed. Quoting: ~Jazz~ You're correct. I hate to see this happen, but we need to get away from China. Things will be lean for a while, but looking at this positively, this is an amazing business opportunity. Find those items that are needed most and start a company in the US. The only trouble is that the SBA loans are almost frozen right now. That needs to change. Uncle Sam needs to start pumping money into the manufacturing sector immediately! It's not just loans - it truly is investing in the future of the United States and National Security. President Trump is already bring back existing large businesses, but we must start new manufacturing here as well. Thank you President Trump! Those that have vision can step into opportunities! |
Mistress C
User ID: 77082640 United States 08/02/2020 02:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quality has gone way down on lots of products too as things run out. Right now beef is great because farmers are sending lots to slaughter. Those cows won't grow back for another 3-4 years. The quality of leather in the past few years already decreased... this situation isn't good for consumer lifestyle. |
CaylinSoup
User ID: 69566331 United States 08/02/2020 02:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We're in this predicament because demonrats insisted we suck the China tit for everything we needed. Quoting: ~Jazz~ Sick of hearing EVERYTHING is the democrats fault..its ALL OF THEM RESPONSIBILE PLUS AMERICAN CITIZENS FOR DOING NOTHING ABOUT IT. Everything IS because of you facing libatic democrat motherfuckers!!! Everything you touch turns to suit! Look at the democrat cities that are now shitholes packed with freaks and sub 70 iq dipshits. Over the last 40 years, when a Democrat has held the Presidency, the US economy improved. When Republicans held office, the economy went down the toilet and the debt went up. Trump has surpassed George W. Bush in economic idiocy. Hulk smash! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79102055 United States 08/02/2020 02:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The best way to judge how the supply chain is doing without the info being spun for an agenda, is to look at the shipping container statistics for the Port of LA, the largest US port in terms of containers moved through it, and the port of entry for most of our imports from China. [link to www.portoflosangeles.org (secure)] Overall, incoming shipping containers are down 17.11% in 2020 compared to 2019. A noticeable drop in my opinion, but not a "everybody run to the stores and buy what you can because it is all about to disappear" number. I think we are in the "need to be smart and careful" stage, not the "worry or panic" stage. |
lightchild_uk
Waiting for IT User ID: 72429277 United Kingdom 08/02/2020 02:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I thought this may happen. After I stocked up with food, I went for other items. e.g. Batteries, Foil, Matches and Lighters. I also got some spare ball valves for my heating system. Also I replaced lots of things around the home which were getting worn out or could fail soon such as light bulbs. |