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Anonymous Coward User ID: 79206085 United Kingdom 08/02/2020 03:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Employed by Major Home Improvement retailer. Been informed that we are going to have way worse shortages than we already have or had anticipated. Quoting: JimmyBones The company is scrambling to conduct sweeping remodels of the "floor" to help offset the look of empty shelves and drop zones. We received reporting that showed us our "get healthy" dates on stock that we ran out of and they came and went and we are still out of important items and material. In fact over the next couple months you will be seeing major remodels in store. You'll know it when you see it. It's to maintain planogram integrity while keeping the stores "looking full" and investors happy. This is only the beginning so it will most assuredly impact food and other essential items. Get bulked out. Sorry to here things are so bad stateside. My brother works in supply logistics for a major supermarket here in the UK and he says that we have more supplies and stockpiles than necessary and he isnt worried at all. Just goes to show how each country is effected differently. Praying for you USA. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 74020928 United States 08/02/2020 03:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Guess it's time for people to grow the fuck up and learn how to "make do". I grew up on a little farm in the middle of no where. We were poor as fuck but never went hungry. If we needed something, we usually made it. Surprising what you can make with some hand tools, time and patience. People are too fucking lazy and spoiled. "Whaa....I can't find what I want so I am going to whine like a little bitch!" You great grandparents made it...probably without electricity and running water. You can make it too if you grow a spine and a set of nuts. Buy hand tools...I mean the non electric kind and invest the time in learning how to use them correctly. I buy a lot of antique tools...nit to collect but to use. Try flea markets, antique stores and pawn shops. Pro tip...before whining abiutnot being able to fund something...check your local pawnshops. Surprising what you can find sometimes |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79187002 United States 08/02/2020 03:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The best way to judge how the supply chain is doing without the info being spun for an agenda, is to look at the shipping container statistics for the Port of LA, the largest US port in terms of containers moved through it, and the port of entry for most of our imports from China. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79102055 [link to www.portoflosangeles.org (secure)] Overall, incoming shipping containers are down 17.11% in 2020 compared to 2019. A noticeable drop in my opinion, but not a "everybody run to the stores and buy what you can because it is all about to disappear" number. I think we are in the "need to be smart and careful" stage, not the "worry or panic" stage. Finally someone with some information as well as sanity & common sense. Panic is what's driving most of this, and it's completely counterproductive. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79206243 United States 08/02/2020 03:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Covid lockdown resulted in many supply chain disasters. Quoting: Lester 13234408 #1, Grocers... Most urban dwellers eat one or more meals "out" on daily basis. Brown bagging it isn't very popular, so most workers got their lunch, and many got their dinner or breakfast prepared somewhere other than home. Those meal supplying channels were mostly shutdown. Figure the grocers had a large number of new shoppers buying much more food. Just In Time Inventory methods and the same optimized warehousing of distributors could not meet the unforecast 40% or greater surge in demand. Restaurant supply houses saw their demand drop through the floor. Abundant food in America, but the distribution of that food could not be reconfigured quickly. As the food supplies began to catch grocers up on supply, the vast increase in demand consumed what was available. Great amount of packaging, cans, boxes, labels and preservatives etc had been sourced from China for years. Those resources are still not back online, nor is there an expectation for their resumption. Most "in-demand" foods packed for some degree of long shelf life are sold-out. Lesser quality brands have taken their place; for now. Lots of lost food due to handling problems and processing delays. The official advisors recommending citizens build a pantry resource for their food needs are further stressing the distribution networks. Of course, having longterm food storage at home is a great idea! Yet when food storage for 330 million Americans becomes the goal, and fewer than half of those people were relying on grocers for even half their meals, it means there isn't capacity to enable its happening. Understand that you have to get what you can find at the grocers when you find it. Supplies are unlikely to improve significantly anytime soon... Wholesalers and distributors aren't going to build new warehousing or go into debt to fund capacity for what is likely viewed as a short-term problem. #2 Building materials. In lockdown, America's tradesmen and DIYers had time and tools on hand, so they did projects they'd put off... Again, more unanticipated demand for capacity limited by the expected JIT inventory seasonal demands. About the only lumber imports, other than specialty woods like mahogany, come from Canada. Yet, most hardware, tools, and other plumbing and electric supplies were produced in China. All work done in America since Covid's outbreak has been reduced by distancing and other restrictions. Thus: shortages. Chinese sourced gear & supplies are backlogged with no resumption in sight. For the want of a nail... Just might come to be a reality. These are just 2 of the challenges facing our "consumer society". Virtually everything we buy has some component sourced from China or other foreign nation. Most of the foreign nations sourced their processed materials, chemicals, and components from China. What we are faced with is "What you see on the shelves is probably all you're going to be able to get"! Buying online? Don't hesitate. Might not remain in stock very long... Even if/when China resumes production and then shipments to customers, it will take months maybe years to build up inventories a restock retailer customers. Then, there's also the Trump/Xi tradewar and political blustering. What all this really points to is Your Need To Become As Self-Sufficient As Possible. Resale shops are already seeing big reductions in donations as people decide they'd best hold onto clothes and gear which they would have donated last year without any concern. There's only so much of what's available. Once it's gone, it's gone. You can depend on the fact that Essentials will inflate in price very strongly and non-Essentials will face close-out price reductions or sit on the retailers shelves forever. You can be as "self sufficient" as you want, but there's just some items most people cannot make for themselves. Lumber, such as 2x4's, unless you own a forest. Electrical supplies/lines, recepticles, etc. At some point, our U.S. manufacturers have to get back to making those types of items in country. Everyone can have all the farms they want, but some things aren't in everyone's wheelhouse to make or create. part owner of a tree farm, my part will never be cut for lumber, it is to remain as is for the animals and planet. Where is this located?? I would like to come take your lumber and animals when the SHTF.... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 74328224 United States 08/02/2020 03:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Auto parts are scarce. No lumber. No bleach wipes since March. Flour and yeast goes fast off shelves. Expiration dates are all Aug on eggs. The Bounty paper towels are Winter season ones. I pray you all have shelf stable food for winter. It looks like it's going to get really rough. I hate to say it, but we're going down. |
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User ID: 77857043 United States 08/02/2020 03:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If you need food, material, weapons, ammo then get it now. This is systemic and will affect every retail space and you better be ready. Was just in our local walmart and they got a shipment of ammo in yesterday. 3 Box limit. But they had some of everything. And I noticed they had more shotguns and rifles in the display case than last weekend. "Never underestimate the pain of a person. In all honesty, everyone is struggling. Just some people are better at hiding it than others." Everyone has to work out their own salvation. Life can only be understood backwards, but it must be lived forwards. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77931958 United States 08/02/2020 03:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Also involved in the supply chain (shipping / rec) and there are also lots of things that we have a big surplus of due to over-compensating at the start of the shutdown. Yes, there are a few shortages, but it's no big deal. I know that's not what the glp doom merchants want to hear, but whatever. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78579194 United States 08/02/2020 03:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My wife and I went shopping in a My Home department store yesterday and I was shocked at how many empty shelves there were. I would say about one third of the store was mostly empty. Quoting: Secretizer Yes, there are shortages on hoses in so cal home depots and lowes. Noticed a lot of shortages on electrical hardware, light switches, outlets etc... Other stuff is fully stocked tho. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76805704 United States 08/02/2020 03:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's lowes and home depot... Quoting: ^TrInItY^ I can verify this at my local stores.. OP is telling the truth. You people better fucking listen. Guy at lowes told me they don't know if / when they will ever get pressure treated lumber back in stock. Wanted to redo some rotten boards on my deck. NOPE Here you go. I'm sure you can figure out that add it to cart and submit order thing. [link to www.homedepot.com (secure)] This is a "just in time" inventory system failure. It's been going on for several years and just exacerbated by scums who deliberately initiated unnecessary buying frenzies. You can find articles going back 4 or 5 years of people complaining of empty shelves because of this new system. You'd have to be mentally retarded not to see that this propaganda event would weigh heavily on an already flimsy inventory system. It's because our morons in the US don't understand what "Just in time" is. In Japan it works, throughout Europe it works. Meanwhile in the US, it's a god damn disaster that's going to bring huge empty shelves, despite product actually existing with no way to deliver or properly order because of various stupid reasons. just in time delivery is foolish. i work in a factory and see it all the time, watching the business scramble to re-tool, shuttle things around and waste tons of setup time to manufacture a quick run of components or assemblies for some customer who had their equipment fail at peak season in a different country half way around the world because keeping inventory and building a few extras while you have jigs set up, material on hand, and cutting/forming/machining/welding machinery in position and set up for that job is seen as wasteful and foolish - until that call comes in and you have those parts on hand to ship out immediately. they can't see that inventory costs are GREATLY offset by wasted re-tooling time, and a variety of other costs. if you are building a run of parts, build a few extra while you're there and throw them on a shelf. somehow inventory became a boogeyman to be avoided at all costs. totally ridiculous. almost seems to be part of the worlds new ideology of buy and throw away disposable culture - repair nothing. if anything even remotely fails just throw it away and buy new. totally moronic |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 74328224 United States 08/02/2020 03:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The best way to judge how the supply chain is doing without the info being spun for an agenda, is to look at the shipping container statistics for the Port of LA, the largest US port in terms of containers moved through it, and the port of entry for most of our imports from China. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79102055 [link to www.portoflosangeles.org (secure)] Overall, incoming shipping containers are down 17.11% in 2020 compared to 2019. A noticeable drop in my opinion, but not a "everybody run to the stores and buy what you can because it is all about to disappear" number. I think we are in the "need to be smart and careful" stage, not the "worry or panic" stage. Finally someone with some information as well as sanity & common sense. Panic is what's driving most of this, and it's completely counterproductive. Do you follow heavy truck? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 74020928 United States 08/02/2020 03:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77288913 I hate to see this happen, but we need to get away from China. Things will be lean for a while, but looking at this positively, this is an amazing business opportunity. Find those items that are needed most and start a company in the US. The only trouble is that the SBA loans are almost frozen right now. That needs to change. Uncle Sam needs to start pumping money into the manufacturing sector immediately! It's not just loans - it truly is investing in the future of the United States and National Security. President Trump is already bring back existing large businesses, but we must start new manufacturing here as well. THIS I agree completely I hate to tell you it is not up to you alone. Trump may selectively decide what they want to block from China but China can do the same. And their decisions will then impact the USA very very very hard. Critical components, equipment or goods for entire industries. You may have the dream of building everything in the USA but if you do it while pissing on China and expecting them to take it up the butt then you are in for a rude awakening. China can cripple the USA before any of your made in USA production dreams materialize. China can outcompete you on every level on the global markets. You may sell your 50$ hammer in the USA to fools while the rest of the world pays 1$. There is just no winning strategy in this made in the USA ideology. World markets will move, and the USA will just fall back further and further. not smart. But this is not the issue at hand here. It is fear, uncertainty that screws up your supplychains. Mostly because of Trump making the fatal mistake of mizing trade with politics and using trade extortion to force a political outcome. Believe me, people all over the world are watching. The USA is NOT a reliable partner anymore. Unpredictable, deceiving and manipulating. Not a winning combination. Trump has to step down. I now wish he was removed during the impeachment proceedings. All bluster & drama & now we're deep in China's shit because of it. Fuck off dickhead. Trump didn't cause this shit...the Chicoms did and the Democrats (communists) helped them So go suck start a shotgun you whining fucking loser |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79187002 United States 08/02/2020 03:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Halfbeeedgal 70049148 Sick of hearing EVERYTHING is the democrats fault..its ALL OF THEM RESPONSIBILE PLUS AMERICAN CITIZENS FOR DOING NOTHING ABOUT IT. Everything IS because of you facing libatic democrat motherfuckers!!! Everything you touch turns to suit! Look at the democrat cities that are now shitholes packed with freaks and sub 70 iq dipshits. Over the last 40 years, when a Democrat has held the Presidency, the US economy improved. When Republicans held office, the economy went down the toilet and the debt went up. Trump has surpassed George W. Bush in economic idiocy. And that’s because the Fed lowered rates when a Democrat is in office. If you think it’s for any other reason then you are a fool. Even given that, doesn't change the reality that things generally have sucked with at least the last 3 Republicans. Whatever the reason(s), that reality stands, and I don't see Republicans able(or even eager) to alter that any time soon. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79210122 United States 08/02/2020 03:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We're in this predicament because demonrats insisted we suck the China tit for everything we needed. Quoting: ~Jazz~ Sick of hearing EVERYTHING is the democrats fault..its ALL OF THEM RESPONSIBILE PLUS AMERICAN CITIZENS FOR DOING NOTHING ABOUT IT. OMG..........did WE approve dependency from foreigners,esp chiCOM shit ? no one made any "noise" about it ? our manufacturing sent overseas ? then we have to import it and buy their crrap ? no one protested these envir0mentals and their PROPAGANDA ? and bs unelected cartel setting the rules ? wake up sweetie as they all are dem0ccrraps and the RINos,the fffkkin uniparty and WE did not elect them the same. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78579194 United States 08/02/2020 03:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The best way to judge how the supply chain is doing without the info being spun for an agenda, is to look at the shipping container statistics for the Port of LA, the largest US port in terms of containers moved through it, and the port of entry for most of our imports from China. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79102055 [link to www.portoflosangeles.org (secure)] Overall, incoming shipping containers are down 17.11% in 2020 compared to 2019. A noticeable drop in my opinion, but not a "everybody run to the stores and buy what you can because it is all about to disappear" number. I think we are in the "need to be smart and careful" stage, not the "worry or panic" stage. Finally someone with some information as well as sanity & common sense. Panic is what's driving most of this, and it's completely counterproductive. I agree, be smart and don't hoard and waste, we will be fine |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 75686950 United States 08/02/2020 03:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Employed by Major Home Improvement retailer. Been informed that we are going to have way worse shortages than we already have or had anticipated. Quoting: JimmyBones The company is scrambling to conduct sweeping remodels of the "floor" to help offset the look of empty shelves and drop zones. We received reporting that showed us our "get healthy" dates on stock that we ran out of and they came and went and we are still out of important items and material. In fact over the next couple months you will be seeing major remodels in store. You'll know it when you see it. It's to maintain planogram integrity while keeping the stores "looking full" and investors happy. This is only the beginning so it will most assuredly impact food and other essential items. Get bulked out. Lowes or Home Depot? |
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User ID: 72653231 United States 08/02/2020 03:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's lowes and home depot... Quoting: ^TrInItY^ I can verify this at my local stores.. OP is telling the truth. You people better fucking listen. Guy at lowes told me they don't know if / when they will ever get pressure treated lumber back in stock. Wanted to redo some rotten boards on my deck. NOPE My local Lowes is out of the regular cheap fence posts even. Wanted to build a sevond gate leading to the food garden. Had to go to Mississippi to find the material. Whole unit section is lumber are empty. Have been since late June |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 79211946 08/02/2020 04:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Guess it's time for people to grow the fuck up and learn how to "make do". Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74020928 I grew up on a little farm in the middle of no where. We were poor as fuck but never went hungry. If we needed something, we usually made it. Surprising what you can make with some hand tools, time and patience. People are too fucking lazy and spoiled. "Whaa....I can't find what I want so I am going to whine like a little bitch!" You great grandparents made it...probably without electricity and running water. You can make it too if you grow a spine and a set of nuts. Buy hand tools...I mean the non electric kind and invest the time in learning how to use them correctly. I buy a lot of antique tools...nit to collect but to use. Try flea markets, antique stores and pawn shops. Pro tip...before whining abiutnot being able to fund something...check your local pawnshops. Surprising what you can find sometimes Workings for whitey....I needs my reparations and I live off dat. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 77978468 United States 08/02/2020 04:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We're in this predicament because demonrats insisted we suck the China tit for everything we needed. Quoting: ~Jazz~ Wel more than that Jazz.... as I have posted and its truth.. this is the final stage of "tribulation" so to speak... and it has celestial backing. This is the stilling of illegal and excessive activities as part of it. it is the last chance for those who not chosen the life eternal.. including the remaining lucifers to get God or not. Man often does get God until he is entrenched in a horrible situation.. this is the last horrible situation. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 79187002 United States 08/02/2020 04:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | We're in this predicament because demonrats insisted we suck the China tit for everything we needed. Quoting: ~Jazz~ Exactly. Covid brought the global supply chain to a screeching halt. It shouldn't be shocking that we're now dealing a lack of goods that were largely supplied by China. Many didn't realize just how much of what we depend on for food, entertainment, technology, industry and medicine is supplied by China. This is what happens when you base nearly your entire supply chain in another country and then have a worldwide disaster. As bad as it's been, we're honestly lucky that the crisis we have to deal with is a pandemic and not an all-out war. The fake pandemic is merely a mask for China war, which Orange Dumbass needlessly started. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77978468 United States 08/02/2020 04:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | on skimming some of this thread.. you all need to look at the threads in signature file... I have them there for a reason. In particular the STAND STILL which is from Jesus... and some before the stand still in the thread. Final testing folks.. final testing ...... the lists in the first post of the Seraphim /Rosie thread are of great important. China has Jack shit over all to do with this.. man not wanting to become HUMAN however does. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77978468 United States 08/02/2020 04:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They usually have 30 colors of caulking available... Quoting: ^TrInItY^ Now? Down to 3 colors left... Once that's gone, no more caulk for you! Shit isn't being restocked. I have a fellow living near by the works at Lowe's... I should ask him. He was off work for a while.. then back part time and now full time. I have not personally been in any store except rarely a grocery store to mostly get RX. But I see stocking issues come and go at Walmart as I finally took to delivery service about 6 weeks ago. frozen fruits were in short supply which I use a lot of... particularly organic... and some are coming back now. Not all yet.. but its increasing. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78551970 United States 08/02/2020 04:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Employed by Major Home Improvement retailer. Been informed that we are going to have way worse shortages than we already have or had anticipated. Quoting: JimmyBones The company is scrambling to conduct sweeping remodels of the "floor" to help offset the look of empty shelves and drop zones. We received reporting that showed us our "get healthy" dates on stock that we ran out of and they came and went and we are still out of important items and material. In fact over the next couple months you will be seeing major remodels in store. You'll know it when you see it. It's to maintain planogram integrity while keeping the stores "looking full" and investors happy. This is only the beginning so it will most assuredly impact food and other essential items. Get bulked out. Dude, we have plenty of American Made Products to keep us going. So what if some fluff shit is gone. Doom Off. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79187002 United States 08/02/2020 04:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | this is what happens in a situation where companies work on a just in time delivery profit model. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77750782 And then there is a pandemic. And buyers stop placing orders. Then a president who uses China, the main supplier of... everything, as a floormat. All of a sudden there is demand but everyone forgot to place orders on time. fearing tariffs, uncertainty. Im telling you it destroys trade. When trade stops it destroys lives. And this is just the beginning. If the USA does not start to re open asap and this trade war nonsense stops, then it is game over for the US economy. People do not seem to realise just how bad things are right now. And how bad it will get if we do not end this insanity asap. yup right now we need to be COOPERATING with CHINA not pissing them off at every press conference. Trump is an idiot. Just like they are "cooperating" with the DNC, Antifa, BLM, et. al. to destroy American from within? I mean how fast a commie takeover do you want??? Because Trump pissed them off. Trump said they're after us........bullshit. This is all about getting rid of Trump(and I really hope they do). |