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How To Get To Heaven When You Die

 
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I remember my first religion...
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WHICH IS???
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Literal interpretation of-(fill in religion name here)....
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I remember my first religion...
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WHICH IS???
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Literal interpretation of-(fill in religion name here)....
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How about the Father of Jesus Christ and His definition of religion?

He keeps it simple, mankind makes it complex for mankind's own agenda not the Father's.

The Father's religion is as follows;

26 Those who consider themselves religious and yet do not keep a tight rein on their tongues deceive themselves, and their religion is worthless. 27 Religion that God our Father accepts as pure and faultless is this: to look after orphans and widows in their distress and to keep oneself from being polluted by the world.
James 1:26-27

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DEFINE SIN

MISSING THE MARK

THE MARK OF WHAT?

PERFECTION

WE ARE ALL BORN INTO SIN

OR

WE ARE BORN INTO IMPERFECTION

OUR JOB IS TO GET BACK TO PERFECTION

THAT HAPPENS WHEN WE ACCEPT THE AUTHOR OF PERFECTION

JESUS CHRIST
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Always love even when the world hates you.


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I remember my first religion...
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WHICH IS???
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Literal interpretation of-(fill in religion name here)....
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INACCURATE IMPERFECT AND INCONSISTENT INTERPRETATIONS ALWAYS FAIL

ONLY PERFECTION IN THE TRUTH

LEAD TO LIFE EVERLASTING
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Romans chapter 6 covers baptism. Phillip preached it to the Etheopian. Also several passages say "baotize into xchrist. Jesus included baptism in the great commission.
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Always love even when the world hates you.


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GOD IS LOVE

THAT IS

THE TRUTH

AND

THE TRUTH

IS

JESUS CHRIST
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The title of this thread is misleading. The Bible does not teach that you "go to heaven" when you die, it teaches that you remain in your grave and are resurrected upon Jesus' return. People need to read their Bibles and stop relying on others to tell them what it says. The hope of the resurrection is a central tenet of (biblically based) Christianity.
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If Heaven was real... and Jesus was the son of God ... then WHY did he reject BOTH, and return to LIFE


you all quote the ROMAN CATHOLIC BIBLE knowing its purpose ... and completely IGNORE the sacrifice Jesus made to make it clear ... DEATH serves NO PURPOSE ...

Heaven is "home" to the entity who proclaims himself god of this world ... and Hell is simply the realization, that you've been deceived - and "god" is not our creator

Jesus didn't come here to "save" you... he came to show you that you can save yourself from Death and having to live another life-time in the 3D ---- when you stop IGNORING the fact that Jesus CHOOSE LIFE ...!

Jesus returned to LIFE - because he knew that there was nothing to be gained, in Heaven or Hell/Death - that both were a step BACKWARDS ... and to progress - you need a BODY

that's why he came back, to re-store his body - which he learned how to do from NATURE - he had already achieved Christ Consciousness of ALL THAT IS and he used this knowledge to SAVE HIMSELF! WHILE STILL IN THE BODY


nothing prevents you from doing that ... following Jesus into the next dimension of Life ... which is not to be confused with death/ hell or Heaven, because in those realms of the Human Mind System, your Consciousness can not progress ... it is stuck there until NATURE provides you with another Body - and another opportunity to realize your full potential - which is not limited by the BODY, but enhanced by your experiences in LIFE - in all of its Dimensions
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Nope OP that is NOT the teaching of Jesus at all. Heart faith is the beginning of heaven. You are in it already.

Life is in the spirit.. if you are eternal.. you don't die... just the suit of meat wears out.


Jesus said HEAVEN is within you...
 Quoting: ALL IS ONE IS ALL


Ah, so we don't need Jesus.
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PLEASE TAKE THE TIME TO READ THIS. IT'S THE MOST IMPORTANT THING YOU COULD EVER DO AND IT ONLY TAKES A FEW MINUTES
ARE YOU 100% SURE THAT IF YOU DIED TODAY THAT YOU WOULD GO TO HEAVEN? (CLICK 'READ MORE')

There are some things that you should know:

1. Realize that you are a sinner and in need of a Savior:

Ro 3:23 "For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;"

Ro 3:10 "As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:"

It all began with the story of Adam and Eve in the garden of Eden. God created them perfect, there was no death or sorrow. God told them not to eat of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. They disobeyed God and as a result, sin entered into the world. The pain, which this world sees, is the result of sin.

2. Because of our sins, we die both spiritually and physically, but God sent His Son to die so that you can have a chance not to have to go to hell by accepting what He did on the cross:

Ro 6:23 "For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord."

Ro 5:8 "But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us."

Every person who has ever lived is a sinner and is not righteous because we do bad things. A sin is a crime against God, just as if you steal something at the store, it is punishable by going to jail. It's the same thing with sin. Lying, stealing, sex before marriage, pride, hatred, ect. are all sins. Hell is a prison for those who commit crimes against God. That’s because you must be perfect in order to get to heaven. No matter how well you live your life from then on, you have already sinned, which will be punished if you are not pardoned. If you commit a crime, and then live as a good citizen you still will go to jail for the crime you committed. Right? Just as the President can pardon a crime so you won't go to jail, Jesus can pardon your sins so that you do not go to hell, and can go to heaven when you die. You won’t have to pay for your own sins because Jesus already did that for you. But if you reject the pardon that He offers, you will have to pay for your own sins by going to hell.

3. If you will confess Jesus Christ as Your Lord, place your Faith in Him and Believe in your heart that He died, shed His blood and rose again as a sacrifice for your sins, you will be saved (from hell).

Eph 2:8,9 For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, not of works, lest anyone should boast.

Ro 10:9,10 "that if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved.."

You cannot get to heaven by being a good person, going to church, baptism or any other way other than by turning to Jesus, believing in your heart that He died on the cross and rose from the dead for your sins and placing your Faith in Him. While these are good things to do, some people believe that they will get to heaven, but your Faith must be in Christ and His sacrifice alone and nothing else, giving your life to Him.

Heb 11:6 But without faith it is impossible to please Him, for he who comes to God must believe that He is, and that He is a rewarder of those who diligently seek Him.

Romans 3:25 "Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;"

4. You must trust your life to Jesus Christ in Faith, believing in your heart that He died and rose again shedding His blood to pay for your sins as a sacrifice to God, Submitting your life to Him. If you want to accept Jesus free gift of salvation, or if you have any doubts about whether or not you are going to heaven, HUMBLY PRAY THIS PRAYER TO GOD FROM YOUR HEART IN FAITH:

”Dear Lord Jesus I believe that You are the Lord and believe in my heart that You died on the Cross and Rose from the dead, shedding your blood as a Sacrifice for my sins. I repent and turn to You as the only way of salvation, I submit my life to you, placing my Faith and Trust in You as Lord of my life, Please save me and I thank You for it, in Jesus holy name, Amen.”

If you have placed your faith in Jesus Christ and meant it with all of your heart, you are now a child of God and will go to heaven. Now that you are on your way to heaven, you should attend a bible believing church and follow in baptism.
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I recommend you look into Santos Banacci and raising the chrism oil inside of your body (temple). The Bible is an allegory for a natural alchemical process that occurs every month, in every body.

You should not read the Bible literally, that’s a big mistake. Also, Christ isn’t and wasn’t a person on the physical plane, rather it’s the Christ consciousness we are able to create in ourselves.

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Good luck whichever you choose.
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When did you last die and go to heaven; I just want to verify that you actually know what you are talking about.
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The title of this thread is misleading. The Bible does not teach that you "go to heaven" when you die, it teaches that you remain in your grave and are resurrected upon Jesus' return. People need to read their Bibles and stop relying on others to tell them what it says. The hope of the resurrection is a central tenet of (biblically based) Christianity.
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True, however there is a first Resurrection from the dead for the non-believer who then believes and follows the Christ's Way, they are "Born Again" raised from the "WALKING DEAD" into "WALKING LIFE".
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No. "Today you will be with me in Paradise."
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So to answer the question, the dead in Christ are those believers who have died prior to the second coming of Christ. (Note, whether 1 Thessalonians 4 is referring to the second coming or the rapture is a matter of debate.) Believers, whether dead or alive, belong to Christ. We get similar language from the apostle in his first letter to the Corinthians when he writes, “But each in his own order: Christ the first fruits, then at his coming those who belong to Christ” (1 Corinthians 15:23). The dead in Christ applies not only to Paul’s original audience, but to all believers who have died in what can be termed the “inter-advental” period, or the time between the first and second comings of Christ.

At death, the body lies in repose in the grave awaiting the resurrection of the last day, but the soul goes to be at home with the Lord. This is the doctrine of the intermediate state. Believers experience in a provisional sense the rewards that await them in heaven, while unbelievers experience a taste of their eternal torment in hell (Luke 16:19–31).
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So to answer the question, the dead in Christ are those believers who have died prior to the second coming of Christ. (Note, whether 1 Thessalonians 4 is referring to the second coming or the rapture is a matter of debate.) Believers, whether dead or alive, belong to Christ. We get similar language from the apostle in his first letter to the Corinthians when he writes, “But each in his own order: Christ the first fruits, then at his coming those who belong to Christ” (1 Corinthians 15:23). The dead in Christ applies not only to Paul’s original audience, but to all believers who have died in what can be termed the “inter-advental” period, or the time between the first and second comings of Christ.

At death, the body lies in repose in the grave awaiting the resurrection of the last day, but the soul goes to be at home with the Lord. This is the doctrine of the intermediate state. Believers experience in a provisional sense the rewards that await them in heaven, while unbelievers experience a taste of their eternal torment in hell (Luke 16:19–31).
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There is no hell per say it was actually a continually burning garbage dump outside Jerusalem where all the city garbage went. There were also corpses burned there. A very unpleasant place to be.

So who wants their loving father to consider them no better than banishment to GEHENNA the name given to this eternally burning garbage dump or HELL?

Gehenna (geena) is literally translated as "Valley of Ben Hinnon", which was a garbage dump located directly outside of Jerusalem. When Jesus used it in the NT, it NEVER meant an afterlife punishment.
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Our Creator wants to know who is who and what is what. After this is when it will matter.........."into the future".

This is one of seemingly countless Creations, who gets to play and who must stay?

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If Heaven was real... and Jesus was the son of God ... then WHY did he reject BOTH, and return to LIFE


you all quote the ROMAN CATHOLIC BIBLE knowing its purpose ... and completely IGNORE the sacrifice Jesus made to make it clear ... DEATH serves NO PURPOSE ...

Heaven is "home" to the entity who proclaims himself god of this world ... and Hell is simply the realization, that you've been deceived - and "god" is not our creator

Jesus didn't come here to "save" you... he came to show you that you can save yourself from Death and having to live another life-time in the 3D ---- when you stop IGNORING the fact that Jesus CHOOSE LIFE ...!

Jesus returned to LIFE - because he knew that there was nothing to be gained, in Heaven or Hell/Death - that both were a step BACKWARDS ... and to progress - you need a BODY

that's why he came back, to re-store his body - which he learned how to do from NATURE - he had already achieved Christ Consciousness of ALL THAT IS and he used this knowledge to SAVE HIMSELF! WHILE STILL IN THE BODY


nothing prevents you from doing that ... following Jesus into the next dimension of Life ... which is not to be confused with death/ hell or Heaven, because in those realms of the Human Mind System, your Consciousness can not progress ... it is stuck there until NATURE provides you with another Body - and another opportunity to realize your full potential - which is not limited by the BODY, but enhanced by your experiences in LIFE - in all of its Dimensions

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complete load of horseshit
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So to answer the question, the dead in Christ are those believers who have died prior to the second coming of Christ. (Note, whether 1 Thessalonians 4 is referring to the second coming or the rapture is a matter of debate.) Believers, whether dead or alive, belong to Christ. We get similar language from the apostle in his first letter to the Corinthians when he writes, “But each in his own order: Christ the first fruits, then at his coming those who belong to Christ” (1 Corinthians 15:23). The dead in Christ applies not only to Paul’s original audience, but to all believers who have died in what can be termed the “inter-advental” period, or the time between the first and second comings of Christ.

At death, the body lies in repose in the grave awaiting the resurrection of the last day, but the soul goes to be at home with the Lord. This is the doctrine of the intermediate state. Believers experience in a provisional sense the rewards that await them in heaven, while unbelievers experience a taste of their eternal torment in hell (Luke 16:19–31).
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There is no hell per say it was actually a continually burning garbage dump outside Jerusalem where all the city garbage went. There were also corpses burned there. A very unpleasant place to be.

So who wants their loving father to consider them no better than banishment to GEHENNA the name given to this eternally burning garbage dump or HELL?

Gehenna (geena) is literally translated as "Valley of Ben Hinnon", which was a garbage dump located directly outside of Jerusalem. When Jesus used it in the NT, it NEVER meant an afterlife punishment.
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Our Creator wants to know who is who and what is what. After this is when it will matter.........."into the future".

This is one of seemingly countless Creations, who gets to play and who must stay?
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Who after manifold lifetimes has been naughty and who has been nice? Some governments, corporations and other institutions come to mind.


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DEFINE SIN

MISSING THE MARK

THE MARK OF WHAT?

PERFECTION

WE ARE ALL BORN INTO SIN

OR

WE ARE BORN INTO IMPERFECTION

OUR JOB IS TO GET BACK TO PERFECTION

THAT HAPPENS WHEN WE ACCEPT THE AUTHOR OF PERFECTION

JESUS CHRIST
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I see perfection when I go to the wilderness. On the way I see people's attempt to mimmic perfection. Some would say that perfection is What Is. The all is God. The perfect horticultural specimen is a young, full mature in perfect balance or artistic asymmetry. I've seen artworks that seemed quite perfect. The word is within the world of relativity, so it seems fleeting or temporary. It's not meaningful in describing a state of consciousness. It creates ENVY when used as a weapon. Being told you do not measure up to perfection. Useless torture.

The closer interpretation of the Burning Bush in the Hebru is to say: "I AM BECOMING WHAT I AM BECOMING".
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No. "Today you will be with me in Paradise."
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He was alive when he said that. Read the terms of the will.
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Romans 6:4 says we arise from baptism to "newness of life". Why do you think you do that if you already have "newness of life"?
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The title of this thread is misleading. The Bible does not teach that you "go to heaven" when you die, it teaches that you remain in your grave and are resurrected upon Jesus' return. People need to read their Bibles and stop relying on others to tell them what it says. The hope of the resurrection is a central tenet of (biblically based) Christianity.
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FOR SOME PEOPLE WHO CAN'T ACCEPT A BORN AGAIN BODY

THAT LIVES FOREVER

WELL

YOU ARE STUCK IN THE GRAVE OF DEATH
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DEFINE SIN

MISSING THE MARK

THE MARK OF WHAT?

PERFECTION

WE ARE ALL BORN INTO SIN

OR

WE ARE BORN INTO IMPERFECTION

OUR JOB IS TO GET BACK TO PERFECTION

THAT HAPPENS WHEN WE ACCEPT THE AUTHOR OF PERFECTION

JESUS CHRIST
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I see perfection when I go to the wilderness. On the way I see people's attempt to mimmic perfection. Some would say that perfection is What Is. The all is God. The perfect horticultural specimen is a young, full mature in perfect balance or artistic asymmetry. I've seen artworks that seemed quite perfect. The word is within the world of relativity, so it seems fleeting or temporary. It's not meaningful in describing a state of consciousness. It creates ENVY when used as a weapon. Being told you do not measure up to perfection. Useless torture.

The closer interpretation of the Burning Bush in the Hebru is to say: "I AM BECOMING WHAT I AM BECOMING".
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78020158


EVERYTHING ON THE EARTH UNDER CONTROL OF THE WORLD SYSTEM

AKA SATAN'S KINGDOM

THAT IS A DISTORTION OF THE PERFECT EARTH CREATED BY THE FATHER IN HEAVEN

THAT WAS KNOWN AS THE GARDEN OF EDEN

JESUS CHRIST IS ABSOLUTELY PERFECT

ACCEPT HIM AND PARTAKE IN PERFECTION

AND BRING BACK THE GARDEN OF EDEN

AND CAST DOWN THE WORLD AKA SATAN'S KINGDOM
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DEFINE SIN

MISSING THE MARK

THE MARK OF WHAT?

PERFECTION

WE ARE ALL BORN INTO SIN

OR

WE ARE BORN INTO IMPERFECTION

OUR JOB IS TO GET BACK TO PERFECTION

THAT HAPPENS WHEN WE ACCEPT THE AUTHOR OF PERFECTION

JESUS CHRIST
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I see perfection when I go to the wilderness. On the way I see people's attempt to mimmic perfection. Some would say that perfection is What Is. The all is God. The perfect horticultural specimen is a young, full mature in perfect balance or artistic asymmetry. I've seen artworks that seemed quite perfect. The word is within the world of relativity, so it seems fleeting or temporary. It's not meaningful in describing a state of consciousness. It creates ENVY when used as a weapon. Being told you do not measure up to perfection. Useless torture.

The closer interpretation of the Burning Bush in the Hebru is to say: "I AM BECOMING WHAT I AM BECOMING".
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IF

THE INTERPRETATION IS FROM IMPERFECTION

THEN IT WILL FAIL
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No excuses for a few year now for anyone since all you have to do is search the term ''THE KEYS TO HEAVEN'S DOORS'' or ''Doors and Gates'' ''AlteringtheKeysofHeaven'' The Doors When You Die'' ''THE CORRECT NAMES OF THE TRINITY ARE THE KEYS TO HEAVEN'S DOOR
THE HERETICAL NAMES OF GOD, PROMOTED BY THE OCCULT ARE THE KEYS TO THE GATES OF HELL'' on the internet
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Just remember Christ is God when he asks ya. Also fix your Baptism by overriding the post 1944 vatican mark of the beast with proper form remembering (The Holy Ghost/Deum Patrum Spiritum Sanctum)matter and Catholic intention or wear Our Lady's Brown Scapular preferably without a heretical pic of God portrayed as a baby which is an occultists dream. The Brown Scapular acts as a sacramental if your Priest is a free- martin
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You must submit your life to Jesus Christ and His will in Faith, believing in your heart that He died and rose again shedding His blood to pay for your sins as a sacrifice to God. If you want to accept Jesus free gift of salvation, or if you have any doubts about whether or not you are going to heaven, HUMBLY PRAY THIS PRAYER TO GOD FROM YOUR HEART IN FAITH:

”Dear Lord Jesus I know that I have sinned against you and need you to save me. I believe that You are the Lord and believe in my heart that You died on the Cross and Rose from the dead, shedding your blood as a Sacrifice for my sins. I turn to You as the only way of salvation, I submit my life to you, placing my Faith and Trust in You as Lord of my life, Please save me and I thank You for it, in Jesus holy name, Amen.”
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Some tiresome Episcopalian posting Hell is not real is just a heretic given what Jesus says in Matthew 25.
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Some tiresome Episcopalian posting Hell is not real is just a heretic given what Jesus says in Matthew 25.
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That's some warning for Novus Ordo Nuns from the imposter masonic Jesus who knew what was coming centuries in shaping the future





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