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Well now we know why the Cabal has been pushing the stop smoking agenda so hard. | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 78159356  United States08/03/2020 11:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 78159356 United States08/03/2020 11:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Smokers Hospitalized Less Often for COVID-19 Few of those hospitalized with the coronavirus are smokers, and researchers are trying to understand why, according to VICE. One hypothesis is that nicotine, which has anti-inflammatory properties, may interfere with the way that COVID-19 causes an overreaction of the immune system. The hypothesis comes from Konstantinos Farsalinos, a cardiologist in Greece who focuses on tobacco-use reduction. Farsalinos noticed that few COVID-19 patients who were hospitalized in China were smokers, though about half of men in the country smoke. Farsalinos and colleagues wrote a new paper available as a preprint and scheduled to be published in Internal and Emergency Medicine. They found that among 13 studies in China with nearly 6,000 hospitalized COVID-19 patients, the rate of smokers ranged from 1.4% to 12.6%. No studies recorded e-cigarette use. “The results were remarkably consistent across all studies and were recently verified in the first case series of COVID-19 cases in the U.S.,” the authors wrote, calling for an “urgent investigation.” [link to www.webmd.com (secure)] Think about that for a moment. 13 separate Sites in China that had a minimum of 6,000 hospitalizations each and some sites had a low as 1.4% of the total patients were smokers. The highest was 12.6%. Those numbers are earth shattering low for people who smoke. Considering it's estimated about half the male population of China Smokes Cigarettes and high percentage of women do also. |
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| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 78159356 United States08/03/2020 11:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 2 reasons atm: nicotine burn kill the virus and smokers work less for them. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78875869 I"m not a doctor or scientist of course. I wonder if it's an even simpler explanation. Smokers have mucus buildup on the lungs. Virus has to reach the lungs to do maximum damage/kill people. Wonder if the virus is unable to penetrate smokers mucus buildup and they are simply coughing it out of their lungs while it's stuck in the mucus before it can grab a foothold. |
The Old Timer
 User ID: 78013351 United States08/03/2020 11:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well i smoke a lot....just not cigarettes Lets go Brandon!! What doesn't kill us...makes us more interesting Either you live for something worth dying for....or you rot away and die on the installment plan quote: Mr Bill when I post something....I will remove any post I find disrespectful or offensive..... |
| Domari Nolo
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| Lily o' the Valley
User ID: 77084902 United States08/03/2020 11:44 AM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 2 reasons atm: nicotine burn kill the virus and smokers work less for them. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78875869 I"m not a doctor or scientist of course. I wonder if it's an even simpler explanation. Smokers have mucus buildup on the lungs. Virus has to reach the lungs to do maximum damage/kill people. Wonder if the virus is unable to penetrate smokers mucus buildup and they are simply coughing it out of their lungs while it's stuck in the mucus before it can grab a foothold. Maybe in part, but mostly it is because nicotine kills corona viruses. There used to be several research papers on the web, but they have been scrubbed. I found them when I was researhing SARS and MERS. I posted the only one I have found a couple of months ago. You might try searching again if you are interested. I bought some tobacco seed.... People used to grow it all over the US. *** Good deeds bring rewards, bad actions bring troubles. That is a law of the universe. *** |
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| Lily o' the Valley
User ID: 77084902 United States08/03/2020 11:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Wasn't there an article discussing how nicotine counteracts a cytokine storm that can be brought on by the virus? All organs being affected at the same time in the worse case scenario of the virus which requires a multitude of responses from the body to fight back which can in turn hurt the person, which would be considered the cytokine storm? The nicotine negates this. Quoting: Domari Nolo Yes. There used to be many articles about this - research a rticles, not opinions- but they've been scrubbed. *** Good deeds bring rewards, bad actions bring troubles. That is a law of the universe. *** |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 78513563 United States08/03/2020 11:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The NWO/One World Government cabal is big on de-population. Bill Gates, vaccines, members of the royal family all making comments about the population booming out of control in the past. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78159356 I've always wondered why are they all out against smoking? They don't care about people's health, they don't care about people's longevity. If anything it meshes perfectly with their slow kill from cancer while they profit 1-3 million dollars per cancer patient they treat with Surgery, Chemo, and Radiation. It's been said that many of the Corona family of viruses are man made. Covid19 is only the latest. There have been others before it. Some have theorized it's the Cabals attempts to depopulate, especially in China/Africa where populations have grown out. Well if that's True then we know why they don't want people smoking. Corona Virus is not working against smokers. Bullshit. When they turn on all the 5G everyone Eilish be getting sick differently |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 77238312  Netherlands08/03/2020 11:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Wasn't there an article discussing how nicotine counteracts a cytokine storm that can be brought on by the virus? All organs being affected at the same time in the worse case scenario of the virus which requires a multitude of responses from the body to fight back which can in turn hurt the person, which would be considered the cytokine storm? The nicotine negates this. Quoting: Domari Nolo It might have been the smoking because they tested nicotine patches and never really said anything else about it. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 78723084 United States08/03/2020 11:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Wasn't there an article discussing how nicotine counteracts a cytokine storm that can be brought on by the virus? All organs being affected at the same time in the worse case scenario of the virus which requires a multitude of responses from the body to fight back which can in turn hurt the person, which would be considered the cytokine storm? The nicotine negates this. Quoting: Domari Nolo BINGO. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 79150246  Belgium08/03/2020 11:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 31189518 United States08/03/2020 11:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The linings of bronchi and bronchioles in smokers changes from columnar epithelium to stratified squamous epithelium as a protection from the irritation of the smoke. In plain English, the lining of these structures is far less penetrable since instead of having a single cell lining them, they have many layers of flat cells. This is what I recall from my histology and med school classes many years ago. I'm fairly sure that's part of the answer. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 74537716 United States08/03/2020 11:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Wasn't there an article discussing how nicotine counteracts a cytokine storm that can be brought on by the virus? All organs being affected at the same time in the worse case scenario of the virus which requires a multitude of responses from the body to fight back which can in turn hurt the person, which would be considered the cytokine storm? The nicotine negates this. Quoting: Domari Nolo Yes. There used to be many articles about this - research a rticles, not opinions- but they've been scrubbed. ~~~~~ Yes, I recall seeing them too. I thought the attacks on the Vaping Companies a while back was related to the ability to see truth for many. I always figured it was a Holy Spirit connection until I saw people without faith, but still had eyes to see. Many were smokers. |
| Philly Special
User ID: 48696927 United States08/03/2020 12:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Read about this early on in the pandemic. Smoking doesn't kill the virus. What the nicotine does, though, is it inhibits the ACE-2 inhibitor of cells in your body. The ACE-2 inhibitor is where the covid19 virus gains entry into a cell, then takes it over and replicates. So with that inhibitor inhibited (sounds weird, but this is all legit), the virus cells can't gain access to the cells, and float along their merry way and die or get killed by T cells or antibodies. |
| Victor Vectors
User ID: 71388910 United States08/03/2020 12:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Same here, 2 grams a day for nausea, if I could afford it I would be smoking 3 to 4 grams a day. New Jersey does not allow disabled low income folks to grow their own cannabis. Where is New Jersey Gov. Phil Murphy's compassion? Oh wait this is a Mafia/BIG Pharma state. Bastards! Last Edited by Victor Vectors on 08/03/2020 12:13 PM |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 77524817 United States08/03/2020 12:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 2 reasons atm: nicotine burn kill the virus and smokers work less for them. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78875869 I"m not a doctor or scientist of course. I wonder if it's an even simpler explanation. Smokers have mucus buildup on the lungs. Virus has to reach the lungs to do maximum damage/kill people. Wonder if the virus is unable to penetrate smokers mucus buildup and they are simply coughing it out of their lungs while it's stuck in the mucus before it can grab a foothold. That is what I am thinking too. I smoke cigs and pot. Hardly ever sick but I always have a lot of mucus. I just do a bong and cough it all out. Good to go... I think they have been planning this c 19 soon to be C 20, and the warnings a few years ago about smoking really got me thinking. |
| ThirstyMarlin
User ID: 78110098 United States08/03/2020 12:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Read about this early on in the pandemic. Quoting: Philly Special Smoking doesn't kill the virus. What the nicotine does, though, is it inhibits the ACE-2 inhibitor of cells in your body. The ACE-2 inhibitor is where the covid19 virus gains entry into a cell, then takes it over and replicates. So with that inhibitor inhibited (sounds weird, but this is all legit), the virus cells can't gain access to the cells, and float along their merry way and die or get killed by T cells or antibodies.    Marlin! |
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| Eggcellently Deplorable
Re-Instate Smith-Mundt! User ID: 79077841 United States08/03/2020 12:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Guess I'll have to go get me a pack of Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79220545 Luckies! Do you feel lucky, punk? "So round, so firm, so fully packed!" When I was a kid, we used to say that "LSMFT" meant "Loose Straps Mean Floppy Tits". "I have come to the conclusion that all news should be treated like 9/11, assume it is a psyop with actors participating in a staged event complete with props, until proven otherwise, in which case assume whatever is being recorded, reported, televised, is distortions/lying by omission/outright lies, until proven otherwise." - Anonymous, 4-13-12 |
| FlashBuzzkill
User ID: 78003852 United States08/03/2020 12:35 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Been smoking for 43 years and for whatever reason I've always felt it inhibited catching various flues. No rational reason why either, just seemed to work. Gen. John B Gordon and Gen. Nathan Bedford Forrest were the finest citizen-soldiers birthed in America. |
| Shadow Dance
User ID: 59490123 United States08/03/2020 12:36 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ME too .. I smoke close to a pack a day, and a couple of joints ...my mom smoked til she was in her mid seventies .. . and just quit one day ...I've tried to quit at least a hundred times ... one time I did quit for 25 years ... missed it the whole time.... I'm in my mid seventies and have no issues, other than the morning hack ... but I do smoke "organic" products HA HA |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 76809044 United States08/03/2020 12:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The NWO/One World Government cabal is big on de-population. Bill Gates, vaccines, members of the royal family all making comments about the population booming out of control in the past. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78159356 I've always wondered why are they all out against smoking? They don't care about people's health, they don't care about people's longevity. If anything it meshes perfectly with their slow kill from cancer while they profit 1-3 million dollars per cancer patient they treat with Surgery, Chemo, and Radiation. It's been said that many of the Corona family of viruses are man made. Covid19 is only the latest. There have been others before it. Some have theorized it's the Cabals attempts to depopulate, especially in China/Africa where populations have grown out. Well if that's True then we know why they don't want people smoking. Corona Virus is not working against smokers. plenty of beer and scotch too. |
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| Plebs all around User ID: 78378688 08/03/2020 12:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 2 reasons atm: nicotine burn kill the virus and smokers work less for them. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 78875869 I"m not a doctor or scientist of course. I wonder if it's an even simpler explanation. Smokers have mucus buildup on the lungs. Virus has to reach the lungs to do maximum damage/kill people. Wonder if the virus is unable to penetrate smokers mucus buildup and they are simply coughing it out of their lungs while it's stuck in the mucus before it can grab a foothold. Yup. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 19582032 United States08/03/2020 12:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Any way you look at it, I'm watching my brother nearly hack up a lung when I visit. He's 66 and won't stop smoking. I smoked 2 packs a day for 17 yrs the quit many yrs ago. I can remember hacking like he does, not any more. |
| ThePassenger
User ID: 49744517  France08/03/2020 12:49 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
All the people i ve seen sick around (ten or more) of me are ALL non-smokers. I smoke and didn t have that shit. Facts are facts...