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UPDATE ! : Re:Beirut Headlines on RHOSUS. Possible parties involved through motive

 
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OK updating

At 1.7 density that places the total volume of ammonium nitrate at. 1.7 tonnes per cubic meter.. So in the warehouse it was probably almost exactly 2000 cubic meters of ammonium nitrate prill

That's 100 Meters long ,( football field)
10 Meters tall and 20 Meters wide


Now the footage ( recorder probably deceased RIP)is showing fireworks from lower roof of silo complex.

Story that is shaping up.

Workers were welding on a shipping container door that contained fireworks..so the story goes..

Fireworks conflagrated and disperse through detonations by the thousands.. Right across form silos..

If the fireworks blew out the doors and spread in a directed pattern by the shipping container?

That blew explosives onto the ammonium nitrate..
I'm guessing at the very least stored under a tarp system? In the rest of the ware house?

It started the nitrate melting and burning until something was reached..

Secondary explosion
Flash over ( burning fumes)
Or what?

Reports of plane in region
Some say they see a object on parabola hit area..

Timeline

[link to www.bbc.com (secure)]


So we start here

Where exactly was the AN?
Where were the fireworks?
Who owned the firework? Chinese?

And on that note Chinese have bought up ports all over the world!!!!!!!

This would be a great way to bid into reconstruction?!!! And own a new critical port on a huge oil field!!!

Levitain oil field ..also claimed by Lebanon!!!
And Syria.. Now no port to explore form..

OK enough but you see what I mean

Why was the ship abandoned?



And on the object front ,junior Holmes

The Israelis have a rocket artillery system that will reach 150 km about 93 miles!!

The border is only about 50 miles in Golan region,, heavily manned and armed..to Beruit Harbor!! Well within range!

[link to en.m.wikipedia.org (secure)]

Can be air and sea launched!
Would look like a missile!


Well enough for now..but don't swallow ,just yet.

My feeling , this is only begining
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Yeah I also wondered about China's stake in this attack.

They basically already kinda controlled that port, now someone will be getting a big fat re-construction contract and China is always the cheapest.. it's their principle, still too expensive for poor countries, who will then fall victim of China's version of Colonialism.

What a shame that all the worldleader are silent. Trump okay, but he only said it to fuck with their heads.
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Yes I agree

China has gotten ports like Mombasa Kenya, by building infrastructure that the host country defaults on..then they take over..

Not saying deliberate..simply because " they" would have to have been locked and loaded to fire a missile into that.

I can't find out however( and curiously) , just how long the fire burned before it detonated

How long..appears to be under a minute start to finish..no fire response..

But if deliberate missile could have been " in the air" and shipping container with " fireworks" set off on a preplanned signal ( radio) or timer...
Possible .. Unfortunately yes

Here is the close up video form silo complex

[link to mobile.twitter.com (secure)]


Thread: Beirut EXPLOSIONS WERE STORED EXPLOSIVES @ PORT. WITNESSES SAID THEY HEARD FIRECRACKER SOUNDS BEFORE MASSIVE EXPLOSION

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OK updating

At 1.7 density that places the total volume of ammonium nitrate at. 1.7 tonnes per cubic meter.. So in the warehouse it was probably almost exactly 2000 cubic meters of ammonium nitrate prill

That's 100 Meters long ,( football field)
10 Meters tall and 20 Meters wide


Now the footage ( recorder probably deceased RIP)is showing fireworks from lower roof of silo complex.

Story that is shaping up.

Workers were welding on a shipping container door that contained fireworks..so the story goes..

Fireworks conflagrated and disperse through detonations by the thousands.. Right across form silos..

If the fireworks blew out the doors and spread in a directed pattern by the shipping container?

That blew explosives onto the ammonium nitrate..
I'm guessing at the very least stored under a tarp system? In the rest of the ware house?

It started the nitrate melting and burning until something was reached..

Secondary explosion
Flash over ( burning fumes)
Or what?

Reports of plane in region
Some say they see a object on parabola hit area..

Timeline

[link to www.bbc.com (secure)]


So we start here

Where exactly was the AN?
Where were the fireworks?
Who owned the firework? Chinese?

And on that note Chinese have bought up ports all over the world!!!!!!!

This would be a great way to bid into reconstruction?!!! And own a new critical port on a huge oil field!!!

Levitain oil field ..also claimed by Lebanon!!!
And Syria.. Now no port to explore form..

OK enough but you see what I mean

Why was the ship abandoned?



And on the object front ,junior Holmes

The Israelis have a rocket artillery system that will reach 150 km about 93 miles!!

The border is only about 50 miles in Golan region,, heavily manned and armed..to Beruit Harbor!! Well within range!

[link to en.m.wikipedia.org (secure)]

Can be air and sea launched!
Would look like a missile!


Well enough for now..but don't swallow ,just yet.

My feeling , this is only begining
 Quoting: RPHUNTER


RP, I hate to find fault, but 2000 divided by 100 is 20. 20 divided by 10 is 2.

So, a pile of 2000 cubic meters could be about 2 meters high (two pallets stacked), by 20 pallets wide by 50 pallets long (about 50 meters or 150+ feet).

Quite possible in a warehouse.

However, there was a link to Carlos Osweda, said to be an arms expert:

[link to twitter.com (secure)]

He said the smoke is the wrong color for AN. His opinion was that the explosion was rocket fuel and warheads stored there by Hexbollah.

It is SOP for them to store weapons in civilian areas to create human shields.

Did Israel set it off? Maybe, or maybe a welder really did set off some fireworks which set off the rocket fuel and warheads.

Interesting that the Lebanese authorities blamed the port guys and AN immediately. I think the people of Beirut will be mighty pissed if it turns out to be the fault of Hez.
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Yes math is not my best ..OK

I was trying to figure out how much of that warehouse was filled with AN and where , with respect to that was the shipping container in the video..

But 2700 tonns of material with a density of 1.7 g/ cm will occupy 1.7 tonne per cubic meter

So about 2000 cubic meters or 2000 containers about three feet on each side ..

I guess it was in a pile?
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OK updating

At 1.7 density that places the total volume of ammonium nitrate at. 1.7 tonnes per cubic meter.. So in the warehouse it was probably almost exactly 2000 cubic meters of ammonium nitrate prill

That's 100 Meters long ,( football field)
10 Meters tall and 20 Meters wide


Now the footage ( recorder probably deceased RIP)is showing fireworks from lower roof of silo complex.

Story that is shaping up.

Workers were welding on a shipping container door that contained fireworks..so the story goes..

Fireworks conflagrated and disperse through detonations by the thousands.. Right across form silos..

If the fireworks blew out the doors and spread in a directed pattern by the shipping container?

That blew explosives onto the ammonium nitrate..
I'm guessing at the very least stored under a tarp system? In the rest of the ware house?

It started the nitrate melting and burning until something was reached..

Secondary explosion
Flash over ( burning fumes)
Or what?

Reports of plane in region
Some say they see a object on parabola hit area..

Timeline

[link to www.bbc.com (secure)]


So we start here

Where exactly was the AN?
Where were the fireworks?
Who owned the firework? Chinese?

And on that note Chinese have bought up ports all over the world!!!!!!!

This would be a great way to bid into reconstruction?!!! And own a new critical port on a huge oil field!!!

Levitain oil field ..also claimed by Lebanon!!!
And Syria.. Now no port to explore form..

OK enough but you see what I mean

Why was the ship abandoned?



And on the object front ,junior Holmes

The Israelis have a rocket artillery system that will reach 150 km about 93 miles!!

The border is only about 50 miles in Golan region,, heavily manned and armed..to Beruit Harbor!! Well within range!

[link to en.m.wikipedia.org (secure)]

Can be air and sea launched!
Would look like a missile!


Well enough for now..but don't swallow ,just yet.

My feeling , this is only begining
 Quoting: RPHUNTER


RP, I hate to find fault, but 2000 divided by 100 is 20. 20 divided by 10 is 2.

So, a pile of 2000 cubic meters could be about 2 meters high (two pallets stacked), by 20 pallets wide by 50 pallets long (about 50 meters or 150+ feet).

Quite possible in a warehouse.

However, there was a link to Carlos Osweda, said to be an arms expert:

[link to twitter.com (secure)]

He said the smoke is the wrong color for AN. His opinion was that the explosion was rocket fuel and warheads stored there by Hexbollah.

It is SOP for them to store weapons in civilian areas to create human shields.

Did Israel set it off? Maybe, or maybe a welder really did set off some fireworks which set off the rocket fuel and warheads.

Interesting that the Lebanese authorities blamed the port guys and AN immediately. I think the people of Beirut will be mighty pissed if it turns out to be the fault of Hez.
 Quoting: darth

Yeah Darth

I also thought rocket fuel too..like what would make such a detonation point

Here is what I looked at

[link to en.m.wikipedia.org (secure)]

Rocket fuel but still nitrogen and oxygen basically
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OK this twitter feed has the goods

[link to mobile.twitter.com (secure)]

So the ammonium nitrate was stored in plastic fabric sling able cargo bags . each one can be hooked and lifted into cargo holds of ships

So we know how it was stored..

I'm look into this fire works..

And ongoing
Many people see a blasitc object impacting and causing the detonation..aka a missile of substantial size to be the catylist detonation setting off the 2700 tonne..


Looks like ? Per bag 1000 kilos or a metric tonne

Here's where it gets difficult

[link to mobile.twitter.com (secure)]

These guys go over what it takes to detonate.

Also ..Ah So.. My friend

That would make the thing in the video the warhead with

Ballistic Warhead with NITRIC ACID!

Which was in ballistic flight at the point of being filmed and was boosted into target probably by rocket assisted projectile
EXTRA? , and set off the explosion!

OK look for your self..

Pictures of nitro also show windows in the silo death video.. Same windows..

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On the shipping container of fireworks

By my calculations

Each firecracker has 50 mg of black powder on average.

A shipping container has between 600 to 1000 cases depending on bulk ..

1000 string firecrackers .. Go off in 30 to 45 seconds!!!!

[link to wfboom.com (secure)]

And are 16 to a case for example so a shipping container with 1000 cases would have 16 million 50 gram firecrackers

[link to www.cuttingedgefireworks.com]

So ..if my math is right at 1000 cases per container its about 1770 pounds of gunpowder per shipping container approx 800 kilos!

How many containers were in the warehouse?

And what the Hell is this ?

[link to m.imgur.com (secure)]
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the manufacturer of the AN prill was Georgian

[link to twitter.com (secure)]
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On the shipping container of fireworks

By my calculations

Each firecracker has 50 mg of black powder on average.

A shipping container has between 600 to 1000 cases depending on bulk ..

1000 string firecrackers .. Go off in 30 to 45 seconds!!!!

[link to wfboom.com (secure)]

And are 16 to a case for example so a shipping container with 1000 cases would have 16 million 50 gram firecrackers

[link to www.cuttingedgefireworks.com]

So ..if my math is right at 1000 cases per container its about 1770 pounds of gunpowder per shipping container approx 800 kilos!

How many containers were in the warehouse?

And what the Hell is this ?

[link to m.imgur.com (secure)]
 Quoting: RPHUNTER


it was a bomb in development ....possibly about complete underneath the armament ...remember the tunnels.....well they were developing the bomb of a thousand bombs...which was planned on being used openly ...which would have been way more devastating....it seems to have been thwarted off .... you know what seemed strange to me...was the behavior of that leader ...it almost seemed like he was fake crying ....
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I did not see the viedo .. but Lebanon has always been helpless to the larger armies that roam through out the middle east.

there has to be some irony ..

its a cycle of destabilize and destroy .. replacing freedom with colonialism .. most people have no say in the matter .

Beirut harbor

borders on trillion CUfoot nat gas field [Levithan}
adjacent to israel
if destroyed , who will rebuild ?

and its like florida or the caribbean .. a paradise
water front .. the people I hate would destroy it just to rebuild it and get a condo ..
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