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InterMezzo
(OP) User ID: 45716769 Netherlands 08/05/2020 06:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And to add like the last time, for what it is worth, I won’t delete posts that argue with my stand in an adult and respectful manner. I will however, like I do with all my threads delete posts that include insults, name calling, racist memes and such. If you can not find it in yourself to word your opinion in a normal way, I advise you to find a thread where that is not considered a problem. There are plenty available. My post is merely to discuss and how we look at the current state of our society. Agree or disagree. All fine of course. To each their own opinion. Just be civil and respectful, is all I am asking.. Last Edited by InterMezzo on 08/05/2020 06:26 AM |
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(OP) User ID: 45716769 Netherlands 08/05/2020 08:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Most all of us hoped that the Pandemic would be well under control by now. Quoting: Trumps Furry 2nd Term Only those who profit from the effects of lockdowns and fear wished this to continue. No matter the origin and the way this is played, we are only at the beginning of this Furry. Even though this is already hitting us extremely hard on a personal level, the overwhelming social and economic damage of a crisis of this magnitude can only be seen after a year to 18 months. At least 90% of the people are affected by this. Next stages in the coming six months, will be even more extreme unemployment, poverty, more state sponsored groups causing social unrest, turning social media into broadcasting platforms, spreading false information through governments for political gain. Further collapse of the economy. The charts our so called leaders show, no matter which political side and across the world, are utter bullshit. Pumping infinite money in and using that as some kind of good news to do damage control with the public, keep them under control. And if that fails, there's always martial law and taking control of privately owned business in every field. Keep in mind that usually the last quarter is the time where profits are made for the majority of companies. It won't happen. Total collapse is imminent. Economic recovery from this crisis will take at least a decade. Social recovery and gaining trust back from the public even much longer. But that is not the point of my rant, how depressing this outlook may be for so many of us. And to know that I am most likely the most positive guy on earth. It is about how we more and more rely on outside opinions to chose our action and reaction toward each other as neighbors, friends, as people in crisis and especially listen to politicians and subjective media. Be your own mind. Follow your own instinct. Have an eye for those who suffer. Leave room for other opinions and don't become an artificial intellect robot parroting what is fed to you by those whose only goal is to increase their power and control over people. It is the only way we get out of this crisis together. That is the only message I wanted to express. Last Edited by InterMezzo on 08/05/2020 09:06 AM |
Happy in Nature
User ID: 77553547 Nicaragua 08/05/2020 08:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's as if you dictated the thoughts in my head and the emotions in my heart. This is your best mezzo rant yet. I have typed a few paragraphs in response, but deleted them because it is simply a repeat of the words you have so eloquently expressed. Thank you for sharing your heart. Thank you for all of the love you put into the world. Thank you for being you. This poem came to mind as I read your post. Hope you enjoy it as much as I do. Many blessings and love to you, mezzo. On Reason and Passion by Kahlil Gibran (1883-1931) And the priestess spoke again and said: Speak to us of Reason and Passion. And he answered, saying: Your soul is oftentimes a battlefield, upon which your reason and your judgement wage war against your passion and your appetite. Would that I could be the peacemaker in your soul, that I might turn the discord and the rivalry of your elements into oneness and melody. But how shall I, unless you yourselves be also the peacemakers, nay, the lovers of all your elements? Your reason and your passion are the rudder and the sails of your seafaring soul. If either your sails or your rudder be broken, you can but toss and drift, or else be held at a standstill in mid-seas. For reason, ruling alone, is a force confining and passion, unattended, is a flame that burns to its own destruction. Therefore let your soul exalt your reason to the height of passion, that it may sing; And let it direct your passion with reason, that your passion may live through its own daily resurrection and like the phoenix rise above its own ashes. I would have your consider your judgment and your appetite even as you would two loved guests in your house. Surely you would not honour one guest above the other; for he who is more mindful of one loses the love and the faith of both. Among the hills, when you sit in the cool shade of the white poplars, sharing the peace and serenity of distant fields, and meadows—then let your heart say in silence, “God rests in reason.” And when the storm comes, and the mighty wind shakes the forest, and thunder and lightning proclaim the majesty of the sky,—then let your heart say in awe, “God moves in passion.” And since you are a breath in God’s sphere, and a leaf in God’s forest, you too should rest in reason and move in passion. - From The Prophet (Knopf, 1923). This poem is in the public domain. |
Happy in Nature
User ID: 77553547 Nicaragua 08/05/2020 09:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Do you really think that with yesterday’s Beirut disaster, people among each other made a choice in who they help or who they won’t help in the instance it occured? Base their reaction and reaching out on religion, color or politics? No, it is instinct. We help the ones that hurt. Fuck religion, color and politics. It is appalling to see people gloat and cheer the people who died in that disaster, because they are “fuckin’ muzz” and they “deserve what is coming to them.” If your block explodes and you are lying there severely wounded, would you ask the people that want to help you get to a hospital, what their political preference or religion is? Or refuse their help based on color? Quoting: InterMezzo Yet even amidst the chaos and carnage, the Lebanese pulled together. “In a land conditioned by calamity, people knew what to do, including helping wounded people they didn’t know,” writes Vivian Yee, the New York Times correspondent in Beirut. Yee, who was injured the blast, said, “[T]he Lebanese who would help me in the hours to come had the heartbreaking steadiness that comes from having lived through countless previous disasters. Nearly all of them were strangers, yet they treated me like a friend.” “Someone passing on a motorbike saw my bloody face and told me to hop on. When we couldn’t get any closer to the hospital, our way blocked by hillocks of broken glass and stranded cars, I got off and started walking,” Yee said. “Survivors walked by, moving faster than the jammed-up traffic. To anyone who appeared unhurt, people called out, ‘alhamdulillah al-salama,’ or, roughly translated, thank God for your safety,” she said. “Before the end of the night, after my co-workers had found me, after a passing driver named Ralph had offered to take us to one of the few hospitals still accepting patients, after a doctor had put 11 staples in my forehead and another sprinkling on my leg and arms, people would be saying the same thing to me: Thank God for your safety.” That spirit of forbearance, with all its grace and defiance, has come to define Beirut. [link to trulytimes.com (secure)] |
InterMezzo
(OP) User ID: 45716769 Netherlands 08/05/2020 09:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's as if you dictated the thoughts in my head and the emotions in my heart. This is your best mezzo rant yet. I have typed a few paragraphs in response, but deleted them because it is simply a repeat of the words you have so eloquently expressed. Quoting: Happy in Nature Thank you for sharing your heart. Thank you for all of the love you put into the world. Thank you for being you. This poem came to mind as I read your post. Hope you enjoy it as much as I do. Many blessings and love to you, mezzo. On Reason and Passion by Kahlil Gibran (1883-1931) And the priestess spoke again and said: Speak to us of Reason and Passion. And he answered, saying: Your soul is oftentimes a battlefield, upon which your reason and your judgement wage war against your passion and your appetite. Would that I could be the peacemaker in your soul, that I might turn the discord and the rivalry of your elements into oneness and melody. But how shall I, unless you yourselves be also the peacemakers, nay, the lovers of all your elements? Your reason and your passion are the rudder and the sails of your seafaring soul. If either your sails or your rudder be broken, you can but toss and drift, or else be held at a standstill in mid-seas. For reason, ruling alone, is a force confining and passion, unattended, is a flame that burns to its own destruction. Therefore let your soul exalt your reason to the height of passion, that it may sing; And let it direct your passion with reason, that your passion may live through its own daily resurrection and like the phoenix rise above its own ashes. I would have your consider your judgment and your appetite even as you would two loved guests in your house. Surely you would not honour one guest above the other; for he who is more mindful of one loses the love and the faith of both. Among the hills, when you sit in the cool shade of the white poplars, sharing the peace and serenity of distant fields, and meadows—then let your heart say in silence, “God rests in reason.” And when the storm comes, and the mighty wind shakes the forest, and thunder and lightning proclaim the majesty of the sky,—then let your heart say in awe, “God moves in passion.” And since you are a breath in God’s sphere, and a leaf in God’s forest, you too should rest in reason and move in passion. - From The Prophet (Knopf, 1923). This poem is in the public domain. Thank you for sharing that beautiful poem, your words and your posts my dear friend. I still firmly believe that there is much more good than bad in this world and in people and that will be the trigger to get out of the darkest times. Maybe sometimes it may seem we are fighting windmills, but what better way is there to fight, even if it is against the current. Never give up and follow your heart and you will find your courage and strength is much bigger than you might ever have believed. |
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User ID: 74785546 United States 08/05/2020 10:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You know I'm with ya Mezzo. Sick of politics, sick of the dysfunction in our government, sick of the corruption, sick of the extreme black and white thinking rampant in society that is only digging us further into a hole. No elected official is going to save us, we have to wake up and make changes and save ourselves. And I agree, things are about to get very, very bad economy-wise. I think that's one thing most of us here can agree on at least. |
InterMezzo
(OP) User ID: 45716769 Netherlands 08/05/2020 11:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You know I'm with ya Mezzo. Sick of politics, sick of the dysfunction in our government, sick of the corruption, sick of the extreme black and white thinking rampant in society that is only digging us further into a hole. No elected official is going to save us, we have to wake up and make changes and save ourselves. And I agree, things are about to get very, very bad economy-wise. I think that's one thing most of us here can agree on at least. I know Kickin'. And the effect on people's well being and behavior is quite disturbing as well. But you know not all is lost. In weakest moments we find strength, in ourselves and others. As cliche as that may sound, I still firmly believe in that.. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 78646202 United States 08/05/2020 04:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And to add like the last time, for what it is worth, I won’t delete posts that argue with my stand in an adult and respectful manner. I will however, like I do with all my threads delete posts that include insults, name calling, racist memes and such. If you can not find it in yourself to word your opinion in a normal way, I advise you to find a thread where that is not considered a problem. There are plenty available. Quoting: InterMezzo My post is merely to discuss and how we look at the current state of our society. Agree or disagree. All fine of course. To each their own opinion. Just be civil and respectful, is all I am asking.. :doit2408: Hi Mezzo. I respectfully disagree on some points. I still love you, though! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 79041524 United States 08/05/2020 04:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Over the months I have seen so many videos from people who believe this virus is a hoax and those who believe it is very real, that to me it merely has become a discussion on how capable and convincing someone is in expressing their view on it. If someone says virus, someone else yells hoax and that is how the bidding starts. Everything else, the loss of life, individual grief, the impact and damage on people's personal lives and society, has become irrelevant in the battle of wanting to be right and knowing it best. And if you don't agree? Well, fuck you, your pain and your proof, I still know better. A perfect feeding ground to create a society where who is most aggressive wins. A society divided and broken up by individualism, chaos and violence. Quoting: InterMezzo In that respect it is no different from sales and marketing tactics or getting elected as president I guess. With the increase of (social) media, our society has become one big marketing playground, complete with technical analysis and 3D power point strategies on how to increase the sales area and thus increase (political) power. By graphs, personalized ads, subjective media etc. The Loudest Voice comes to mind. For those who haven’t seen it last year, here’s a trailer [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] Maybe the wrong example for this forum and not my meaning to take a political side when it comes to media, (Fox, CNN and any other, they all use the same biased format), but merely an example to show you that we live in a content society. Roger Ailes (whatever personal opinion you may have about this guy) said: “People don't want to be informed, they want to féél informed.” I agree with that. We suffer from a severe form of information obesity. 24/7 in your face reporting, combined with the need for recognition, to be heard. We put on social media that we are going for a smoke or that the cat has vomited 25 times, in the morning alone. Everything can be seen and perhaps even more important, said. On every platform. TikTok, Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, YouTube, Media, Fora, you name it. Of course I also firmly believe there is a big control aspect in this crisis from big pharma and the global governments. Everywhere there is money to be made or power to be gained, there are games being played. And those games do not care whether there is human life involved. Human life is merely an asset on the social and political game board, as said to increase the sales area, read power. But that does not have to exclude the fact that there is a deadly virus going around, more than likely even a released bio weapon to play this game. Next to that, Mother Nature does have a say in this, since as population (including those who want to control us), we are merely assets in her greater game. Earthquakes, hurricanes, volcanoes, diseases, plagues. At the end of the day it is just a matter of who is the most powerful player on the game. On a universal level, I would really put my money on Mother Nature. Sometimes I do wish there would be a total reset, or at least something that kills the whole current technology communication structure, so that people need to only rely on their own instincts again and make their own decisions, without being politically labeled, instead of being fed by the bigger players in the game. It would also make it more clear what is real or not, when a natural disaster occurs. Own instinct, own decision, make choices in who to trust or not, where political label is completely erased or at least strongly subjective to surviving. Simple life with instinctive behavior and thinking. Not the artificial intelligent robots we generally have become. Do you really think that with yesterday’s Beirut disaster, people among each other made a choice in who they help or who they won’t help in the instance it occured? Base their reaction and reaching out on religion, color or politics? No, it is instinct. We help the ones that hurt. Fuck religion, color and politics. It is appalling to see people gloat and cheer the people who died in that disaster, because they are “fuckin’ muzz” and they “deserve what is coming to them.” If your block explodes and you are lying there severely wounded, would you ask the people that want to help you get to a hospital, what their political preference or religion is? Or refuse their help based on color? But that's how I see it. I have never given a rats ass for what they are trying to fed me. I rely on what I see and act to it. My decision, not theirs. I have no problem wearing a mask if I believe that avoids me getting killed by some damn virus or whatever goes around. I don't need someone to tell me that or others to condemn me for that. My decision, not theirs. If they don't want to wear one, well then don't, but don't hate me for doing the opposite. If people want to get the vaccine, let them get it, don't hate them for it. If others don't want it, then don't take it. That is what is wrong in our society. Too many people thinking for us and pushing their opinion upon us, through all layers in society. The media, millions of experts, people in power, people in the streets, making videos in their cars, spouting their midweek rants on a forum. Of course it is their own right, but don't hate or ridicule others for their own opinion. Live and let live and at least try to stick together. We need that more than being divided. We are only at the beginning of this crisis. Okay, enough Mezzo! I know. It just gets on my nerves to see so many people pushing opinions upon us. We are all free spirits. We don't need others to tell us what is right or wrong. We either agree or disagree, but let us base our opinions on our own judgement and not on that what is fed to us by those who don't really care whether we live or die, as long as their power is secured and increased. As always, another probably way too long two cents rant. Read it or not, your own choice of course. Either way, stay safe and sane and enjoy your Wednesday Time Zones. /Midweek Mezzorant tExT: tOo lOnG/wOn'T rEaD vIdEo: tOo lOnG/wOn'T wAtCh |
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FlashBuzzkill
User ID: 78003852 United States 08/05/2020 05:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Another thoughtful and insightful meandering through the current malaise Mezzo. It is a tragedy of the commons that many feel the need to claim a space and to hell with everyone else. Even the SJW's are especially prone to the need to feel righteous, not just correct. It's become a substitute for religion with those people. Man is God and Marxism is the new church. On paper it's all very appealing, in action it becomes mob rule and violence prevails. Nobody is thinking things through simply because the rules and guidelines keep continually changing. We didn't need to wear masks a month ago but not we must to save the vulnerable. It's as if they lie intentionally then turn everything 180 degrees simply to force us to continually comply and abandon thinking. It short circuits our logic and that is a dangerous precedent to be setting. I don't see this playing out in to any kind of stable and viable future, I really don't. It goes against a lifetime of being an optimist but the sheer weight of negativity precludes a very heavy price to be paid for any return to normalcy. Gen. John B Gordon and Gen. Nathan Bedford Forrest were the finest citizen-soldiers birthed in America. |
FlashBuzzkill
User ID: 78003852 United States 08/05/2020 05:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | On Reason and Passion Quoting: Happy in Nature by Kahlil Gibran (1883-1931) From The Prophet (Knopf, 1923). This poem is in the public domain. Poetry is one of the best weapons humanity has to save itself. That one is worth reading several times. Gen. John B Gordon and Gen. Nathan Bedford Forrest were the finest citizen-soldiers birthed in America. |
Ehhhh young ones User ID: 78840384 United States 08/05/2020 06:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Over the months I have seen so many videos from people who believe this virus is a hoax and those who believe it is very real, that to me it merely has become a discussion on how capable and convincing someone is in expressing their view on it. If someone says virus, someone else yells hoax and that is how the bidding starts. Everything else, the loss of life, individual grief, the impact and damage on people's personal lives and society, has become irrelevant in the battle of wanting to be right and knowing it best. And if you don't agree? Well, fuck you, your pain and your proof, I still know better. A perfect feeding ground to create a society where who is most aggressive wins. A society divided and broken up by individualism, chaos and violence. Quoting: InterMezzo In that respect it is no different from sales and marketing tactics or getting elected as president I guess. With the increase of (social) media, our society has become one big marketing playground, complete with technical analysis and 3D power point strategies on how to increase the sales area and thus increase (political) power. By graphs, personalized ads, subjective media etc. The Loudest Voice comes to mind. For those who haven’t seen it last year, here’s a trailer /Midweek Mezzorant It's all a hoax, science, medicine, everything "westernized" is a glittering lie to make money, period. We haven't done shit to improve human kind, we made it dumber so the rich can control it and exploit it. Period. Tools like technology were "stolen away" from their best uses and fudged to make money and control masses. Period. Those "people" who orchestrated this "plan", did it at least for 300 years man, they got so bored and decadent that they started fucking kids for sport and killing them for "youth". We're cattle to them, you ain't swinging that with any vote!! So go fucking organize a revolution or something because there ain't no fixing of this shit. |
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User ID: 66804923 Australia 08/05/2020 08:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | “People don't want to be informed, they want to féél informed.” Quoting: InterMezzo /Midweek Mezzorant I agree with your sentiment, but the issues plaguing us are baked into our reptilian brian... :( I'll explain. Modern history would have us believe that public relations and propaganda started with Edward Bernays. However history books tell us that the ancient Egyptians built the pyramids under the belief that the sun wouldn't shine tomorrow if they didn't complete their great work. The Egyptian slaves minds were dulled due to being payed for their labor in beer... Then there's Classical philosophers like Plato bemoaning the intellectual laziness of ancient Greeks with his allegory of the cave. We only have to look to Cicero to see the skill of the Roman Senate orators, in beguiling the masses with his/their vast intellect and knowledge. Then there's the myriad of European kings or lords who knelt to the Pope, due to his clergy threatening everyone with a miserable afterlife unless they paid the church money to forgive their indiscretions... There are countless examples as to why the sheep get shorn. The ultimate answer is; they want to be sheep. They want to be told what to think and what to do. Because it's easy and alleviates them of responsibility for anything and everything. Understanding the desire to be a sheep is steeped in the study of Psychology. From the need for acceptance to appeal to their normalcy bias to belong to a desirable group or tribe, to confirmation bias where they believe they're morally right whenever they do anything questionable. I know you'll read my whole post Mezzo, but for those with short attention spans. Sheep gonna sheep. And to know that I am most likely the most positive guy on earth. Quoting: InterMezzo /Midweek Mezzorant Everyone has issues, which usually involve other people not living up to their expectation or desire. Even when the desire is good for the person. It's hard not to think of other people as being just like us or having similar traits. Wanting the best for others is noble, but they have to want it for themselves. NowIhavetothinkofanameohnoithurts It's all bull! Nevertheless, the ruler is not truly wise who cannot discern evils before they develop themselves, and this is a faculty given to few. Niccolo Machiavelli Karma is funny, people who kick dogs usually get bitten. If someone doesn't add value to your life, then that someone shouldn't be a part of it. You can always trust people to do whatever is in their own interests. It is certain wastelands will be brought under cultivation. |
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User ID: 76539470 United States 08/05/2020 09:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A bit simplistic maybe, but everyone should be working on building community..not the kind of 'like minded folks welcome at my compound' communities we talk about all the time on here, but the 'Joe down the road knows how to fix small engines, but doesn't have time to can tomatoes like we do' kind of community. This week alone, I have been paid in venison, black caps (wild raspberries), one of the stumps in my yard was ground out, my barn foundation repaired, and someone left a bottle of wine on the porch. Some weeks there is more, some less. Sometimes I get paid in dollars. What I do is irrelevant except that it is a skill that is valuable to others, as are many of their skills to me. This is part of pulling together and it needs to start locally..lack of coins? cashless society and you don't have a bank account? what shortages? I haven't owned a tv since 1992. Now I probably spend too much time on this big blue box, but the time away from both was in some ways magical. I also raised children much of the way up to adulthood with neither. (side note, they do all bear a grudge due to lack of exposure to Sponge Bob) Arguing isn't likely to change anyone's opinion on here..most consider themselves free thinkers and that alone comes with it's own burdens. Also, I agree that poetry is one of the ways we can save ourselves. "I contain multitudes" - as do each of you. Understanding and appreciating that alone is a good start. I am rambling..sadly out of sheer exhaustion rather than some inebriating substance so I am going to stop before it gets even more discombobulated. "Violence simply is not radical enough, since it generally changes only the rulers but not the rules. What use is a revolution that fails to address the fundamental problem: the existence of domination in all its forms, and the myth of redemptive violence that perpetuates it?" - Walter Wink |
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