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Measuring the Distance to the Mars 2020 Rover!

 
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Measuring the Distance to the Mars 2020 Rover!

Yep, it's real, it's as far away as NASA says, it's as fast as NASA says, it's heading where NASA says it's heading, and it originated from Earth precisely at the time of the final burn of the centaur upper stage that launched it. I know I'm going to catch all kinds of flack for showing this but I don't care. The truth is all that matters.
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i wish i knew how they kept these Rovers so clean,almost like someone wipes the dust off every day!
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i wish i knew how they kept these Rovers so clean,almost like someone wipes the dust off every day!
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They do get dusty. Martian wind does occasionally remove some of it but not all of it.
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Many rovers “on Mars”.

With all kinds of “information “ sent back.


And nothing on the Moon?


Odd.
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Many rovers “on Mars”.

With all kinds of “information “ sent back.


And nothing on the Moon?


Odd.
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Awesome work as always, Astro!
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What is its speed on the path from Earth to Mars?
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Impressive, as usual.

Thanks for sharing.
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Why not shoot straight at Mars and brake when you're there sideways with the orbital velocity of it.
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What is its speed on the path from Earth to Mars?
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It's constantly changing under the gravitational forces of the sun and planets. That's why in order to be accurate, the integration I ran at the end of the video actually included all the planets out to Neptune (though you can't see the outer planets in the chart itself). Right now I think the velocity is something like 3.8 km/s relative to the earth. That is of course far lower than it was when I tracked it the evening after launch, earth's gravity is constantly trying to claw it back. It did reach escape velocity from Earth and so it is hyperbolic relative to Earth and my trajectory data shows it will reach Mars.
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Why not shoot straight at Mars and brake when you're there sideways with the orbital velocity of it.
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That's not efficient at all. If you want to learn about the basics of orbital mechanics I highly recommend you try out Kerbal Space Program. I prefer Orbiter for higher fidelity simulations of the real solar system, but Kerbal has an easier learning curve when it comes to orbital mechanics. Most players will try to burn straight for their target when they first start in the game but you quickly find out why that doesn't work.

Incidentally, the rover will perform a direct entry to Mars and use the atmosphere to slow down, but the martian atmosphere is thin so keeping the encounter velocity low is critical.

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Why not shoot straight at Mars and brake when you're there sideways with the orbital velocity of it.
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That's not efficient at all. If you want to learn about the basics of orbital mechanics I highly recommend you try out Kerbal Space Program. I prefer Orbiter for higher fidelity simulations of the real solar system, but Kerbal has an easier learning curve when it comes to orbital mechanics. Most players will try to burn straight for their target when they first start in the game but you quickly find out why that doesn't work.

Incidentally, the rover will perform a direct entry to Mars and use the atmosphere to slow down, but the martian atmosphere is thin so keeping the encounter velocity low is critical.
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Yeah but that's a fuel primative
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Straight towards it should use the same amount instead of first swirling around other ball objects to get speed velocity
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Or at wild a little bit more fuel then using the sun's gravity cycles to propel very fast
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Why not shoot straight at Mars and brake when you're there sideways with the orbital velocity of it.
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That's not efficient at all. If you want to learn about the basics of orbital mechanics I highly recommend you try out Kerbal Space Program. I prefer Orbiter for higher fidelity simulations of the real solar system, but Kerbal has an easier learning curve when it comes to orbital mechanics. Most players will try to burn straight for their target when they first start in the game but you quickly find out why that doesn't work.

Incidentally, the rover will perform a direct entry to Mars and use the atmosphere to slow down, but the martian atmosphere is thin so keeping the encounter velocity low is critical.
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Yeah but that's a fuel primative
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What?
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Amazing!
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Fuel like tarwe and alcohol appear every year seasons for as if ever, if done correctly
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Or at wild a little bit more fuel then using the sun's gravity cycles to propel very fast
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Try a LOT more. Orbital mechanics doesn't work that way.
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Re: Measuring the Distance to the Mars 2020 Rover!
Why not shoot straight at Mars and brake when you're there sideways with the orbital velocity of it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 79228467


That's not efficient at all. If you want to learn about the basics of orbital mechanics I highly recommend you try out Kerbal Space Program. I prefer Orbiter for higher fidelity simulations of the real solar system, but Kerbal has an easier learning curve when it comes to orbital mechanics. Most players will try to burn straight for their target when they first start in the game but you quickly find out why that doesn't work.

Incidentally, the rover will perform a direct entry to Mars and use the atmosphere to slow down, but the martian atmosphere is thin so keeping the encounter velocity low is critical.
 Quoting: Astromut


Yeah but that's a fuel primative
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What?
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Iv no clue about straight on to target fuel consumption, compared to orbital gravity propulsion btw
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That's not efficient at all. If you want to learn about the basics of orbital mechanics I highly recommend you try out Kerbal Space Program. I prefer Orbiter for higher fidelity simulations of the real solar system, but Kerbal has an easier learning curve when it comes to orbital mechanics. Most players will try to burn straight for their target when they first start in the game but you quickly find out why that doesn't work.

Incidentally, the rover will perform a direct entry to Mars and use the atmosphere to slow down, but the martian atmosphere is thin so keeping the encounter velocity low is critical.
 Quoting: Astromut


Yeah but that's a fuel primative
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What?
 Quoting: Astromut

Iv no clue about straight on to target fuel consumption, compared to orbital gravity propulsion btw
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Like I said, go try Kerbal Space Program, it's very educational on how orbital mechanics works.
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Re: Measuring the Distance to the Mars 2020 Rover!

Yep, it's real, it's as far away as NASA says, it's as fast as NASA says, it's heading where NASA says it's heading, and it originated from Earth precisely at the time of the final burn of the centaur upper stage that launched it. I know I'm going to catch all kinds of flack for showing this but I don't care. The truth is all that matters.
 Quoting: Astromut


Like I said yesterday. Even if Astro is larping, he’s picked up enough info along the way, that he might as well be a real astromut.
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Yep, it's real, it's as far away as NASA says, it's as fast as NASA says, it's heading where NASA says it's heading, and it originated from Earth precisely at the time of the final burn of the centaur upper stage that launched it. I know I'm going to catch all kinds of flack for showing this but I don't care. The truth is all that matters.
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I wonder if this rover will wind up landing in Devon Island Canada like the others did?
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Anytime someone has to put the word “truth” into a paragraph that relays no verbal intention on belief or opposition to the underlying meaning of topic, you have a high probability of persuasion on the author. Psychology always highlights the intention.
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Anytime someone has to put the word “truth” into a paragraph that relays no verbal intention on belief or opposition to the underlying meaning of topic, you have a high probability of persuasion on the author. Psychology always highlights the intention.
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Instead of trying to "get in my head," you can either address the empirical evidence I presented or shut up. Your choice.
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I wonder if this rover will wind up landing in Devon Island Canada like the others did?
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No. Devon Island is a known testing ground for prototype designs, but that does not mean the actual missions are fake. This is why I actually did some real investigation here into whether or not the actual mission is fake.

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i wish i knew how they kept these Rovers so clean,almost like someone wipes the dust off every day!
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Can't be martians cos I heard they only have 3 green slimy fingers...not very conducive to housekeeping
The chariots of God are tens of thousands, and thousands of thousands.
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Anytime someone has to put the word “truth” into a paragraph that relays no verbal intention on belief or opposition to the underlying meaning of topic, you have a high probability of persuasion on the author. Psychology always highlights the intention.
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Instead of trying to "get in my head," you can either address the empirical evidence I presented or shut up. Your choice.
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Don’t get mad at me. Your subconscious acted out. I understand though. There’s always been this silent argument of proving yourself from within. The ideologies of the last word is the victorious persona. Why would one need to get in your head when your head is not controlled from the web you weave?
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Many rovers “on Mars”.

With all kinds of “information “ sent back.


And nothing on the Moon?


Odd.
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Not odd.

If they put them on the moon then people from Earth would be able to see if they were actually there or not with various telescopes.

On Mars, its too far away. They could say anything they want and not a single person on Earth could prove it themselves.
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Yep, it's real, it's as far away as NASA says, it's as fast as NASA says, it's heading where NASA says it's heading, and it originated from Earth precisely at the time of the final burn of the centaur upper stage that launched it. I know I'm going to catch all kinds of flack for showing this but I don't care. The truth is all that matters.
 Quoting: Astromut


Great work. You don't see the flat-Earthers or hoax believers putting in this kind of effort.
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Anytime someone has to put the word “truth” into a paragraph that relays no verbal intention on belief or opposition to the underlying meaning of topic, you have a high probability of persuasion on the author. Psychology always highlights the intention.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77019293


Instead of trying to "get in my head," you can either address the empirical evidence I presented or shut up. Your choice.
 Quoting: Astromut


Don’t get mad at me. Your subconscious acted out. I understand though. There’s always been this silent argument of proving yourself from within. The ideologies of the last word is the victorious persona. Why would one need to get in your head when your head is not controlled from the web you weave?
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Ok so you chose the latter.
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