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Questioning Newton's 1st law

 
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The greater the temperature, the more energy an object contains, and in the absence of that energy some interesting things can happen, such as water expanding when it freezes...
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Water changes state depending on temperature, but it’s friction that stops it from moving down the pipe.
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Friction caused by the decrease in temperature, thereby causing the water to freeze and expand...
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The cause is irrelevant. The fact is it’s the external force (friction) that stops the water/ice moving, not termperature.
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Depends on perspective...relativity

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I mean it’s the law of motion but isn’t that only valid in the vacuum of space?
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big big error.. space is not a vacuum. if it was planets and suns would not form.. it is the pressure of cold space and what moves thru it as matter that forms these forms.

space can hardly be a vacuum.. because light photons flow thru it... from locally our sun to its planets. And calcium is a chief element in space...besides hydrogen and all that.


a Vacuum means no atomic matter.
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The greater the temperature, the more energy an object contains, and in the absence of that energy some interesting things can happen, such as water expanding when it freezes...
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Water changes state depending on temperature, but it’s friction that stops it from moving down the pipe.
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Yes...

Correct.

Its all about understanding friction.

Where there is no friction there there is no movement
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this goes deep...into dark waters or heavy waters.

Deuterium has HIDDEN molecules that Newton couldn't see.
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An object an IN MOTION WILL BE IN MOTION UNTIL IT CHOOSES NOT TO BE IN MOTION.

Newton has it wrong. It's not about force but free will.
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No you are, the context is physics.
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And temperature certainly plays a role in physics, as does TIME...
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Well yes, but neither are forces
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Well they don't ask permission, therefore they are a force...
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That’s not the definition of a force
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Water changes state depending on temperature, but it’s friction that stops it from moving down the pipe.
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Friction caused by the decrease in temperature, thereby causing the water to freeze and expand...
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The cause is irrelevant. The fact is it’s the external force (friction) that stops the water/ice moving, not termperature.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17613529


Depends on perspective...relativity
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getting out of the dumb thread...relativity by Einstein proved he was dumb.
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Water changes state depending on temperature, but it’s friction that stops it from moving down the pipe.
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Friction caused by the decrease in temperature, thereby causing the water to freeze and expand...
 Quoting: BRIEF


The cause is irrelevant. The fact is it’s the external force (friction) that stops the water/ice moving, not termperature.
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Depends on perspective...relativity
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Sorry no.
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Friction caused by the decrease in temperature, thereby causing the water to freeze and expand...
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The cause is irrelevant. The fact is it’s the external force (friction) that stops the water/ice moving, not termperature.
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Depends on perspective...relativity
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Sorry no.
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Your equation will never be complete unless you factor in temperature...
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The cause is irrelevant. The fact is it’s the external force (friction) that stops the water/ice moving, not termperature.
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Depends on perspective...relativity
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Sorry no.
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Your equation will never be complete unless you factor in temperature...
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F = m a

T not applicable.
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The cause is irrelevant. The fact is it’s the external force (friction) that stops the water/ice moving, not termperature.
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Depends on perspective...relativity
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Sorry no.
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Your equation will never be complete unless you factor in temperature...
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You see temperature as friction or another words...two opposing elements fighting each other to cause friction to cause heat.

See it this way...two opposing elements finding a higher attraction to cause cold
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Depends on perspective...relativity
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Sorry no.
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Your equation will never be complete unless you factor in temperature...
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F = m a

T not applicable.
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You'd make a lousy sniper lol



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Depends on perspective...relativity
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Sorry no.
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Your equation will never be complete unless you factor in temperature...
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You see temperature as friction or another words...two opposing elements fighting each other to cause friction to cause heat.

See it this way...two opposing elements finding a higher attraction to cause cold
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Sorry no.
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Your equation will never be complete unless you factor in temperature...
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You see temperature as friction or another words...two opposing elements fighting each other to cause friction to cause heat.

See it this way...two opposing elements finding a higher attraction to cause cold
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No, heat and cold is either an increase or decrease in energy...

If I let you control the pipe size, water pressure and volume, and I get to control the temperature, I can determine whether your water flows, stops, or vaporizes into steam and goes hypervelocity...
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Your equation will never be complete unless you factor in temperature...
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You see temperature as friction or another words...two opposing elements fighting each other to cause friction to cause heat.

See it this way...two opposing elements finding a higher attraction to cause cold
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No, heat and cold is either an increase or decrease in energy...

If I let you control the pipe size, water pressure and volume, and I get to control the temperature, I can determine whether your water flows, stops, or vaporizes into steam and goes hypervelocity...
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You actually bring a good pont up Brief...

Can cold produce energy?
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You see temperature as friction or another words...two opposing elements fighting each other to cause friction to cause heat.

See it this way...two opposing elements finding a higher attraction to cause cold
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No, heat and cold is either an increase or decrease in energy...

If I let you control the pipe size, water pressure and volume, and I get to control the temperature, I can determine whether your water flows, stops, or vaporizes into steam and goes hypervelocity...
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You actually bring a good pont up Brief...

Can cold produce energy?
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A tremendous amount when water freezes and expands...but it takes energy to remove the heat...so if you were to use it as a power source, you'd put a lot more energy into it than you would get out...

Pavement breaks apart in the winter when water runs into a crack and then freezes, causing it to expand and crumble. That takes a lot of energy...
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an object in motion will remain in motion.

Water moves through pipes until it freezes then stops moving.

Please reason and help me understand that Newton wasn't a jackass. Thanks.
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Moving water doesn't freeze...
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Hahahaha omg what an idiotic statement. This guy must be from the south. Never seen frozen waterfalls, frozen ocean, frozen streams, if water gets below freezing it doesn't matter what's going on kid. LOL
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an object in motion will remain in motion.

Water moves through pipes until it freezes then stops moving.

Please reason and help me understand that Newton wasn't a jackass. Thanks.
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Moving water doesn't freeze...
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Hahahaha omg what an idiotic statement. This guy must be from the south. Never seen frozen waterfalls, frozen ocean, frozen streams, if water gets below freezing it doesn't matter what's going on kid. LOL
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No, moving water is liquid and therefore not frozen...when it stops moving it is then frozen...I'd like to see moving frozen water...


Frazzle ice is as close as it gets...



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I suppose a glacier is an example of frozen moving ice...over TIME
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an object in motion will remain in motion.

Water moves through pipes until it freezes then stops moving.

Please reason and help me understand that Newton wasn't a jackass. Thanks.
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Moving water doesn't freeze...
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Hahahaha omg what an idiotic statement. This guy must be from the south. Never seen frozen waterfalls, frozen ocean, frozen streams, if water gets below freezing it doesn't matter what's going on kid. LOL
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No, moving water is liquid and therefore not frozen...when it stops moving it is then frozen...I'd like to see moving frozen water...


Frazzle ice is as close as it gets...



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Have you ever seen snow or sleet before? Moving(falling) water droplets that freeze before hitting the ground and stopping.
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Moving water doesn't freeze...
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Hahahaha omg what an idiotic statement. This guy must be from the south. Never seen frozen waterfalls, frozen ocean, frozen streams, if water gets below freezing it doesn't matter what's going on kid. LOL
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No, moving water is liquid and therefore not frozen...when it stops moving it is then frozen...I'd like to see moving frozen water...


Frazzle ice is as close as it gets...



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Have you ever seen snow or sleet before? Moving(falling) water droplets that freeze before hitting the ground and stopping.
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Acted upon by another force again, this one being the energy that caused evaporation, thereby elevating the water, so that the cold condenses it and causes it to fall...
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Falling snow is simply a demonstration of potential and kinetic energy...
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I suppose a glacier is an example of frozen moving ice...over TIME
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How about a slushie machine, ever seen one of those in action? I'm more or less teasing now. Most of your statements are great. However, that one statement should've been thought about for a second before publishing. Have a nice day was fun
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an object in motion will remain in motion.

Water moves through pipes until it freezes then stops moving.

Please reason and help me understand that Newton wasn't a jackass. Thanks.
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You are describing a closed system and not taking into account all the factors within that closed system.
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Falling snow is simply a demonstration of potential and kinetic energy...
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Oh geesh you just won't stop haha poor you. The water droplet falling through the air causes turbulence in the droplet prior to and during freezing. This gives snowflakes their unique appearance. Sleet is the rapid freeze of the droplet more or less into a mini ice ball.
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an object in motion will remain in motion.

Water moves through pipes until it freezes then stops moving.

Please reason and help me understand that Newton wasn't a jackass. Thanks.
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MAGIC IS IMPERFECT INCONSISTENT AND INACCURATE

THE OBJECT OF SCIENCE IS TO REASON BY THE LOGIC OF YOUR MIND TO FIND

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Water changes state depending on temperature, but it’s friction that stops it from moving down the pipe.
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Yes...

Correct.

Its all about understanding friction.

Where there is no friction there there is no movement
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this goes deep...into dark waters or heavy waters.

Deuterium has HIDDEN molecules that Newton couldn't see.
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An object an IN MOTION WILL BE IN MOTION UNTIL IT CHOOSES NOT TO BE IN MOTION.

Newton has it wrong. It's not about force but free wil
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