BIBLICAL FLOODS, TYPHOONS AND FOOD SHORTAGES IN CHINA

LET it leave. They have their own resources, financial and otherwise, and healthy trade with numerous partners across Eurasia, and vast modern infrastructure to support still more wealth-creation (e.g. 15 THOUSAND MILES of high-speed rail in just 20 years!), and strong currency, and vast gold reserves, and a new gold-backed crypto-currency (yuan), and more, much more. Oh, I did not mention a fabulously well-educated population with far more advanced degree STEM people than anywhere else -- as needed for all the high tech development and opportunities that are coming on like a flood, next couple decades. And on and on.

You're just not getting what is happening here. It is a sea change. They are already the world leader in many important ways (e.g. more technology patents, and peer-reviewed scientific papers, than all other countries combined), and the gains are coming on all fronts. They are the future, U.S./West is history.

The idea that China is going to "implode" is just laughably out of touch with reality -- albeit this IS a common point of view in the (laughably out of touch with reality) U.S./West.

We will see, by the way everyone gives a fuck about multinationals; I guess you don’t understand how the world works. There are no sovereign nations left, the only power on this planet is capital investment. Winners and losers are only determined by the funding they obtain.

Like I said China won’t completely collapse, it will remain a consumer base. The days of stealing intellectual property are over, they will have to create their own value. The multinationals will move to the next market, as they always do.

It’s not really funny how abused they have been. Ask yourself why America imports tons of resources when it’s full of them... extraction is detrimental. It finds places where they’re willing to hurt their people and environment for a few bucks. The damage to China,especially once the floods wash pollution over most of the country will be generationally damaging, then companies move out. I don’t support it, but it’s how the world works.

get what you need....now

Like their flood control projects? LOL

Yes, it was due to capitalism. Socialists do not reject capitalism. They USE it to build a strong socialist state, and wealth that can be used to benefit the whole society and everyone in it. Socialists understand that capitalism is a great engine of development. The entire idea of socialism presupposes capitalist development. The difference is that under socialism (such as the Chinese system), capitalistic enterprise is STRICTLY CONTROLLED and must always serve the state and the people. That is why in China, for example, they literally execute billionaires (13 so far!) when they step out of line. The Chinese state ALLOWS capitalists to do their thing, as long as it is useful to advance the greater social good and the well-being of the common people.

The arguments you are making might have been valid in 1990, or maybe 2000 or 2005. But WAY too late now. China has developed internally to the point where they don't need U.S./West anymore. I know this comes as a terrible shock and point of grief to Western chauvinists. Boo hoo. lol

So, so many plans for the future. Mega mega projects while they are the world’s worst polluters.

That was done with forced abortions, sterilization, one child, and God knows how many executions. The only thing that changed is they forcibly lowered their population. Glad Americans don’t think reducing population is the answer to famine.

LOL at the retards saying we have a dictator as president.

Remind me how tyrannical the governors and mayors are acting.

You blind sheep will line up to get the vaccine.

Wrath of God, they deserve it.

ASSHOE, please!

typhoons? they barely got a cat 1, last year they got a fucking CAT 4.
This year has been a currently nothingburger typhoon season.
And is forecast to be a below average season unlike the fearmongered overhyped atlantic

"Forcibly lowered their population"?! Are you really THAT ignorant?!

Abortions had precisely NOTHING to do with it. China's population grew from ~600 million at the time of revolution to ~1.4 BILLION today, i.e. 800 million MORE mouths to feed! The one child policy was obviously not very effective, and this is illustrated by more specific statistics showing that the fertility rate had already collapsed BEFORE one-child.

As for "god knows how many executions", you don't know what you are talking about. You're just reading CIA propaganda (i.e. U.S. MSM).

Damn, supporting the execution of businessmen... sounds like somewhere the world wants to do business with. I didn’t know that thanks for enlightening me to the methods of China. The more Hear the less I value their importance in the world. Hope the earthquake on Saturday doesn’t effect you.

You bet, if they are VICIOUS CRIMINALS.

But yeah, I know, they should be more like the West, and let vicious psychopathic criminals off scot-free. Or even give them special subsidies! lol

So you’re saying the government enforced one child policy didn’t lower China’s population?

If you’re really going there I don’t think discussion can continue. My point is China loves to say they ended famine, they did but by ending population growth. What other country in the history of earth has tried to end its own population growth? I’ll wait.

Ok, why would they force a one child policy on their Population if they weren’t trying to lower it? Good grief, I guess I am that ignorant if you can enlighten me of the other motivation.

Or just uphold the laws of a country, you know- law and order. The foundation of every civilized society.

Obviously not by much. It is point of speculation how much effect the one-child policy had. China's population would no doubt be somewhat larger had it not gone that route, perhaps a hundred million or so? Who knows?

Your 2nd paragraph, I do not understand.

Let's take it one piece at a time:

"China loves to say they ended famine"

Actually they don't. They NEVER brag about it, even though they ought to. It is just something that I've become aware of. It is a statistical fact.

"they did but by ending population growth."

No. As per the numbers I already gave -- which you could look up for yourself in 30 seconds, if I had not given them to you -- the population grew enormously.

They ended famine by multiple means, including much better agricultural land management and technology. Also, since they are a socialist state, they care about their people, and that means distribution of food to those who need it when they need it.

"What other country in the history of earth has tried to end its own population growth? I’ll wait."

China's one-child policy was surely unique. Many other countries have family planning and pop control type initiatives, but none that aggressive, across such a large nation. What is your point? Yes, they had this idea of population control, which did not work too well. What of it?

What of, can you explain the purpose of such a policy? Why would a country attempt such measures?

And CCP Shill gone.

I think your problem is that when you say "lower it" you are talking about absolute population numbers, rather than the rate of growth.

One-child lowered the rate of population growth, such that total population today, 40 years later, is somewhat lower than it would have been without the policy. Population DID still grow, however, and that cannot be stopped when you have a large population of younger people (as they had in ~1950). Population did still grow, just not as much as it would have.

Clear?

Further: it is almost impossible to lower absolute population numbers in any reasonable timeframe, apart from global nuclear war or some other mega-catastrophe and die-off. What you CAN do is lower the rate of growth, and perhaps even cause total population to crest and level-off. One-child did help with that, no doubt. Just like the global fertility collapse is doing to global population growth, which declines every year and will lead to level-off by mid-century.

Perhaps you recall (?) that in that era, 1960s-1970s, (one-child went into effect in late 70s), "overpopulation" was a huge concern. "The Population Bomb" was a best-seller and had many imitators. There was a near-hysteria, all over the world, about what would happen when population continued to explode into the stratosphere. Mass starvation! Four horsemen! etc.

And so, it is easy to understand how Chinese planners got caught up in this, as the most heavily-populated country on earth (maybe tied with India), and still very much underdeveloped after centuries of poverty. They were understandably worried about whether or not they would be able to take care of the huge projected population.

At that time, it would have been hard to predict the impact of the fertility collapse that was just beginning at about that time. Absolute population numbers were soaring, but at the same time fertility was falling off a cliff. Average woman might have 5-6 kids in 1955, but by 1965 it was down to 3-4, by 1975 down to 2-3. And today, all over the world (including China), fertility is far below replacement of 2.1. That is, excepting sub-Saharan Africa and a few countries in the M.E.; they still have high fertility. But generally, as development continues, as urbanization and education continues, as people get less-poor, they naturally have fewer kids. The effect is huge. We now have population growth falling consistently by a large amount every year since 1986, with no end in sight. There is even talk of UNDERpopulation on the horizon. What a difference a few decades makes!

Does that answer your question?

Still very much here. Gotta justify my juicy CCP paychecks. lol

kind of ironic how China is refereed to as a paper tiger.

And all their buildings disintegrate quicker than confetti
does in the rain.

Guess you missed the question. I’ll ask again; why would a county why would a country force such a policy on their citizens?

No, why were they the only country to enforce such measures on their citizens? Did it have to do with food security, if not why.

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They were not the only country. In the mid-70s, India declared a state of emergency (vis a vis population) and tried to force sterilization on people with various carrot and stick approaches. None identical to the Chinese model, but similar.

Did it have to do with food security? Yes, projected or anticipated food security. Read my post on the "overpopulation era". What do you not understand? It was the tenor of the times, and reasonable people DID believe that overpopulation was a serious problem. Read my post please.

And btw forced sterilization began in the U.S. in the early 20th century, for other reasons. Nazis did it as well.

Sick of China's slaves too.USA was sold to CCP in 1999.