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COVID-19 News, Info, Discussion /// Tracking the Spread of the Virus and its Effects /// October Lockdown for UK (pg. 774)

 
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409 further deaths in France. Plus more than 600 new patients entered ICUs in the past day.


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UK about to suffer sharp drop in vaccine doses.





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Vaccine rollout no longer a guarantee of success.



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Re: COVID-19 News, Info, Discussion /// Tracking the Spread of the Virus and its Effects /// October Lockdown for UK (pg. 774)
Some hospitalized and died, too.

Many of the 246 are presumably the ones who had the need to be tested - i.e. symptomatic cases. Asymptomatics are probably in the thousands at a minimum...




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Pretty clever putting it so far out. When the 4th wave hits, Californians will not be so angry. Its one thing to allow some freedom then snatch it away. Its another if they never hit the goal date.
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Re: COVID-19 News, Info, Discussion /// Tracking the Spread of the Virus and its Effects /// October Lockdown for UK (pg. 774)
U.S. data....

cases, deaths, hospitalizations, test positivity

Data is incomplete due to the Easter holiday.... some states haven't been reporting in the past few days, so will have to wait until later this week to get a more accurate picture, however the trend is that things are heading in the wrong direction...






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A look at U.S. regions...




Data from the Northeast and Midwest U.S.







And the data from South and West U.S.




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Well, this is a nice surprise!...The US economy is growing at its fastest pace since 1984.... [link to www.cnn.com (secure)]
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So all signs point to another resurgence with variants in the USA. Why are states continuing to drop all restrictions and mandates?

Am I missing something?
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Israel... cases are no longer falling... levelled off... need to wait a few days to see the general trend.




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Two months.

Plateau takes about 8 weeks.

Send them to Greece.
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The first lot arrived in Greece three days ago


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Vaccine rollout no longer a guarantee of success.



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Good post!

Double drip - you have to read this madness.

Variants are overcoming vaccines so quickly vaccinate everyone.

OMG I cannot believe I just read that crap !!!!

UK Keep Calm Sma

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Herd immunity and vaccine free is the only way……

Peace not War.
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So all signs point to another resurgence with variants in the USA. Why are states continuing to drop all restrictions and mandates?

Am I missing something?
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Rebellion is in the air. Restaurant Owners Clash With Police in Rome Lockdown Protest... [link to www.usnews.com (secure)]
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So all signs point to another resurgence with variants in the USA. Why are states continuing to drop all restrictions and mandates?

Am I missing something?
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Rebellion is in the air. Restaurant Owners Clash With Police in Rome Lockdown Protest... [link to www.usnews.com (secure)]
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P1 spreads across North America - won’t be pretty !!!!
Herd immunity and vaccine free is the only way……

Peace not War.
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So all signs point to another resurgence with variants in the USA. Why are states continuing to drop all restrictions and mandates?

Am I missing something?
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No, you're not missing anything... it really is as messed up as it seems. But who expected any different...

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So all signs point to another resurgence with variants in the USA. Why are states continuing to drop all restrictions and mandates?

Am I missing something?
 Quoting: CLYMER


No, you're not missing anything... it really is as messed up as it seems. But who expected any different...

peace
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Bonkers - god help America
Herd immunity and vaccine free is the only way……

Peace not War.
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UK Keep Calm Sma

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Re: COVID-19 News, Info, Discussion /// Tracking the Spread of the Virus and its Effects /// October Lockdown for UK (pg. 774)
Israel... cases are no longer falling... levelled off... need to wait a few days to see the general trend.




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To be fair, they have not reached this "mythical" herd immunity of 70% + of the population yet. Israel: 834,920 cases, an increase of 357. Deaths at 6,257 (+12). 317 serious (-6), 486 hospitalizations (-3). 57,726 tests, 0.7% positive. 7-day avg at 338 (+9).
Vaccinations: 1st dose 5,282,545. 2nd dose 4,871,397. Population is over 9 million.

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Israel... cases are no longer falling... levelled off... need to wait a few days to see the general trend.




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To be fair, they have not reached this "mythical" herd immunity of 70% + of the population yet. Israel: 834,920 cases, an increase of 357. Deaths at 6,257 (+12). 317 serious (-6), 486 hospitalizations (-3). 57,726 tests, 0.7% positive. 7-day avg at 338 (+9).
Vaccinations: 1st dose 5,282,545. 2nd dose 4,871,397. Population is over 9 million.
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As I have said before when P1/P3 hits Israel it’s not going to be nice....
Herd immunity and vaccine free is the only way……

Peace not War.
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Pretty clever putting it so far out. When the 4th wave hits, Californians will not be so angry. Its one thing to allow some freedom then snatch it away. Its another if they never hit the goal date.
 Quoting: Elevatorguy


My thoughts exactly. June is a ways away and a whole lot can change and probably will before then, not in a good way either.

And then Newsom is also facing a recall, if all the signatures on the petitions (as they should) are legitimate.

Poor California, we are a big ole mess.
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Re: COVID-19 News, Info, Discussion /// Tracking the Spread of the Virus and its Effects /// October Lockdown for UK (pg. 774)
Speculative but interesting thoughts from a virologist on the emergence of the new variants in their different environments.




One could make speculative, but interesting arguments about what drove emergence of UK variant B.1.1.7 and Brazilian variant P.1, by that I mean exactly what selective environments caused their proliferation. The viruses are not the same!

The UK variant arose at a time when immune pressure was not particularly high, consisting mainly of a modest no of Brits who had recovered from COVID. And, as expected, its immune-escape capabilities are limited. It IS, however, more infectious and more pathogenic

By contrast, Brazilian variant P.1 arose in a highly "immune" environment, perhaps in Manaus where 70% are thought to have had antibodies from prior COVID. Unsurprisingly, P.1 has superior immune evasion skills relative to B.1.1.7

So what were the selective forces that favored B.1.1.7 in UK? Here's the crazy part: British lockdown deprived virus of most opportunities for superspreader events. The virus had to improve its skills at close-contact, family-cluster spread. And it f'ing DID

This implies no foresight on the part of the macroassembly of molecules we call a virus. It HAD to find a weakness if it were to further proliferate. So it stumbled into a mutation-space that gave it that edge

I don't have great insight into what happened to make THE most effective of the variants in immune escape, S African variant B.1.351. Like the others, it may have emerged to escape immunity. Maybe S Africa had a large population who sustained occult COVID?
We shall see maybe.
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What is added by this report? Transmissibility and reinfection of P.1 were estimated using an epidemiological model-based fitting and public health data. The transmissibility is 2.5 times greater than the wild variant and reinfection probability is 6.4% on average..... [link to www.medrxiv.org (secure)]
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It’s not slowing - USA need to take note BIG time....,,
Herd immunity and vaccine free is the only way……

Peace not War.
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Just awful. I have no words :(
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What is added by this report? Transmissibility and reinfection of P.1 were estimated using an epidemiological model-based fitting and public health data. The transmissibility is 2.5 times greater than the wild variant and reinfection probability is 6.4% on average..... [link to www.medrxiv.org (secure)]
 Quoting: Lago


Basically... the transmission rate is so insane that it's very likely there is a significant amount of re-infecting going on to account for it.

Also, the 6.4% reinfection rate is a conservative estimate. In that paper it says there is another model which puts the rate three times higher.


https://imgur.com/2oG6hLU


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Good God. India was at 50k last week.



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