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JAZZz50
User ID: 79996701 04/20/2021 11:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: COVID-19 News, Info, Discussion /// Tracking the Spread of the Virus and its Effects /// October Lockdown for UK (pg. 774) HB mailbox Edit? If you like. When times and I feel down, opera lifts me up but that's just me. Thanks for the green, Bastetcat. Quoting: Lago Thanks for the kind words and green Larry D. Croc. Mrs Lago has fully recovered except for a lingering headache that is kept under control with Aleve blue pills. Hopefully, that too will dissipate. good to hear she is doing better,LAGO. JAZZZ50 2020 The SHTF literally as TP ran out. we went from being over the target, to actually being the target. too close to the truth. if i had a dollar for everytime someone says "merge" without using the word, i'd b so green i'd b King of Mars. |
CoronaCoaster
(OP) User ID: 78214364 United States 04/20/2021 12:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: COVID-19 News, Info, Discussion /// Tracking the Spread of the Virus and its Effects /// October Lockdown for UK (pg. 774) HB mailbox Edit? If you like. When times and I feel down, opera lifts me up but that's just me. Thanks for the green, Bastetcat. Quoting: Lago Thanks for the kind words and green Larry D. Croc. Mrs Lago has fully recovered except for a lingering headache that is kept under control with Aleve blue pills. Hopefully, that too will dissipate. good to hear she is doing better,LAGO. +1 |
CoronaCoaster
(OP) User ID: 78214364 United States 04/20/2021 12:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: COVID-19 News, Info, Discussion /// Tracking the Spread of the Virus and its Effects /// October Lockdown for UK (pg. 774) UK PM Boris announced this at a press conference in London just now https://twitter.com/_/status/1384539168362180616 Last Edited by CoronaCoaster on 04/20/2021 12:09 PM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80220497 04/20/2021 12:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: COVID-19 News, Info, Discussion /// Tracking the Spread of the Virus and its Effects /// October Lockdown for UK (pg. 774) UK PM Boris announced this at a press conference in London just now Quoting: CoronaCoaster https://twitter.com/_/status/1384539168362180616 The waves won’t stop until humanity does.... :hide: |
CoronaCoaster
(OP) User ID: 78214364 United States 04/20/2021 12:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: COVID-19 News, Info, Discussion /// Tracking the Spread of the Virus and its Effects /// October Lockdown for UK (pg. 774) Delhi, India. 28k new cases announced today. The previous high for daily cases in Delhi was 24k. 1 in every 3 tests coming back positive. https://twitter.com/_/status/1384544596248645639 |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80220497 04/20/2021 12:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: COVID-19 News, Info, Discussion /// Tracking the Spread of the Virus and its Effects /// October Lockdown for UK (pg. 774) Delhi, India. 28k new cases announced today. The previous high for daily cases in Delhi was 24k. Quoting: CoronaCoaster 1 in every 3 tests coming back positive. https://twitter.com/_/status/1384544596248645639 I do not have enough chocolate for this heartbreak. |
CoronaCoaster
(OP) User ID: 78214364 United States 04/20/2021 12:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: COVID-19 News, Info, Discussion /// Tracking the Spread of the Virus and its Effects /// October Lockdown for UK (pg. 774) Delhi, India. 28k new cases announced today. The previous high for daily cases in Delhi was 24k. Quoting: CoronaCoaster 1 in every 3 tests coming back positive. https://twitter.com/_/status/1384544596248645639 I do not have enough chocolate for this heartbreak. Also several comments from Indians who noticed that the test numbers are going down. I mentioned this a couple days ago in this thread where the Indian Govt ordered private labs to stop processing tests. So if they hadn't done that maybe the actual positives could be well over 30k by now. Their wave is accelerating. |
CoronaCoaster
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 80152799 United States 04/20/2021 12:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: COVID-19 News, Info, Discussion /// Tracking the Spread of the Virus and its Effects /// October Lockdown for UK (pg. 774) An official recommendation… “WHO Rejects Vaccine Passport For International Travellers” [link to www.zerohedge.com (secure)] I guess it’s a start… |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80220497 04/20/2021 12:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: COVID-19 News, Info, Discussion /// Tracking the Spread of the Virus and its Effects /// October Lockdown for UK (pg. 774) An official recommendation… Quoting: Anonymous Coward 80152799 “WHO Rejects Vaccine Passport For International Travellers” [link to www.zerohedge.com (secure)] I guess it’s a start… It won’t matter when pilots can’t pass physicals anymore..... That’s coming. |
lightning1977
User ID: 23455869 United Kingdom 04/20/2021 01:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: COVID-19 News, Info, Discussion /// Tracking the Spread of the Virus and its Effects /// October Lockdown for UK (pg. 774) https://twitter.com/_/status/1384562735388659715 I’m sure the Indian PM will authorise robust containment measures https://twitter.com/_/status/1384531362091192321 https://twitter.com/_/status/1384531168909873154 Aah Last Edited by lightning1977 on 04/20/2021 01:54 PM |
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Covid19sars2.0
User ID: 68708110 04/20/2021 02:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: COVID-19 News, Info, Discussion /// Tracking the Spread of the Virus and its Effects /// October Lockdown for UK (pg. 774) I remember some lab forced it to mutate and found that thay got to a point where it was 2000% more infectious than now.. Only.took like 600 mutations I apologise for my spelling and grammar, Dyslexia is a biatch. But add on MS and its a whole new world of magic spelling and rambling. We all love green, thanks in advance :) So thats how it is, deal with it or keep walking. We all love green. Thanks in advance :) |
Covid19sars2.0
User ID: 68708110 04/20/2021 02:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: COVID-19 News, Info, Discussion /// Tracking the Spread of the Virus and its Effects /// October Lockdown for UK (pg. 774) European Medicines Agency suspects there is a link to blood clots and the J&J vax Quoting: CoronaCoaster https://twitter.com/_/status/1384511455547035650 But they could not with astra hmm I apologise for my spelling and grammar, Dyslexia is a biatch. But add on MS and its a whole new world of magic spelling and rambling. We all love green, thanks in advance :) So thats how it is, deal with it or keep walking. We all love green. Thanks in advance :) |
lightning1977
User ID: 23455869 United Kingdom 04/20/2021 03:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: COVID-19 News, Info, Discussion /// Tracking the Spread of the Virus and its Effects /// October Lockdown for UK (pg. 774) Sure it's a precaution https://twitter.com/_/status/1384452978086596616 Last Edited by lightning1977 on 04/20/2021 03:54 PM |
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Lago
User ID: 80221202 United States 04/20/2021 04:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: COVID-19 News, Info, Discussion /// Tracking the Spread of the Virus and its Effects /// October Lockdown for UK (pg. 774) INDIA After the death of former Bihar education minister Mewalal Chaudhary, his personal assistant has made sensational revelations about the sorry state of health infrastructure in the state.. [link to www.nationalheraldindia.com (secure)] and this is a government official! Lago |
Lago
User ID: 80221202 United States 04/20/2021 05:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: COVID-19 News, Info, Discussion /// Tracking the Spread of the Virus and its Effects /// October Lockdown for UK (pg. 774) More than 125 million Brazilians Suffered Food Insecurity in The Pandemic, Study Reveals .... [link to www1.folha.uol.com.br (secure)] Lago |
Dutchy20
User ID: 79233391 Netherlands 04/20/2021 05:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: COVID-19 News, Info, Discussion /// Tracking the Spread of the Virus and its Effects /// October Lockdown for UK (pg. 774) The Shock and Reality of Catching COVID-19 After Being Vaccinated.... [link to www.usnews.com (secure)] What they conveniently forget to say is that although millions have been vaccinated, only a small proportion will get exposed to the virus. In reality that 5800 breakouts is actually a much larger % of the vaccinated that have actually come into contact with the virus. Quoting: Lago A Kaiser nurse I was talking to this weekend told me she had gotten both vaccine shots, Pfizer. First in mid Dec and second 3 weeks later. She said she had absolutely NO after effects. Her husband took the Moderna shots in January/Feb as he works for a school district and he had NO bad effects afterwards either. We talked about how the shots are a gamble; some people die, some get very sick, some have no problem. I told her I wanted to wait a year and see what develops. Her rationale was to protect herself due to being a front line healthcare worker and to protect the grandparents, who also watch her kids regularly. She said she does worry about bringing the virus home to her family and is very mindful and careful when she gets home. Right now there is a lull in our area fortunately. Both my parents, in their 70s, had their second pfizer jab last week. Zero side effects after first and second jabs. Aside from that, it does seem to me that, from stories I've heard/anecdotes both IRL and on the internet, there seems to be generally less risk of *known* side effects with Pfizer, compared the other technology of the J&J and AstraZeneca ones. Neither am I referring to the higher risk of blood clots in J&J/Astra, it just seems these particular vaccines have a noticeably higher risk of side effects. Of course this says nothing about the longer term effects of any of the vaccines which of course there is legitimate uncertainty about, but just passing on the info. If I may, we expect some side effects from vaccines. The main differation here is the underlying technology. Pfizer and Moderna both used RNA vaccine's that have never been used before. The others used known and proven techniques with known side effects and more long term data. Much of the pausing we've seen widely covered in the media over the past few months is completely normal and would not get media attention in "normal times". From a purely scientific point of view I should note that we have to be wary of potential side effects from the RNA vaccine's as it is a platform that has not been tested widely. That said however, it is the most basic and logical means of inducing immunity. We bypass nearly every risk of using actual pathogens by only using the equivalent of a finger print to introduce the immune system to the pathogen. Glad to hear your parents got the jab though! Step 1! Make sure they do not go overboard on the jabbed so risk-free train. Basic responsibility (Masks/Distancing/Minimizing Risk for all) is still required to ensure the safety of them and others. Vaid Status: It's a small world after all! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80220497 04/20/2021 05:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: COVID-19 News, Info, Discussion /// Tracking the Spread of the Virus and its Effects /// October Lockdown for UK (pg. 774) They won’t have to do a lockdown.... Quoting: CleverCreator Not when things grind down and too many are sick. We all get there.... in the end. Redacted The thing that I enjoy about you going off the deep end..... I admitted that my timing was off. And you ignored that. Do you know what I have not be wrong about? 1... no such thing as herd immunity 2... it’s endemic... this won’t end 3... there are cascading illnesses that come with being infected 4... the birth rate will continue to fall Keep being a raging cock.... all the better to fuck yourself with. :idiot: |
Dutchy20
User ID: 79233391 Netherlands 04/20/2021 06:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: COVID-19 News, Info, Discussion /// Tracking the Spread of the Virus and its Effects /// October Lockdown for UK (pg. 774) They won’t have to do a lockdown.... Quoting: CleverCreator Not when things grind down and too many are sick. We all get there.... in the end. Redacted The thing that I enjoy about you going off the deep end..... I admitted that my timing was off. And you ignored that. Do you know what I have not be wrong about? 1... no such thing as herd immunity 2... it’s endemic... this won’t end 3... there are cascading illnesses that come with being infected 4... the birth rate will continue to fall Keep being a raging cock.... all the better to fuck yourself with. I've tried from the beginning to simplify this to a "period" of time. We keep speaking of two weeks but this is highly simplified and negates the extreme nuance and range in factors that make the reality of the situation at hand deceptive. Two weeks works for most cases but not all. Three months is a more comfy range when there is sustained spread. This means it takes three months for measures to take full effect and to show the full effect of relieving measures. The "peak" may be around two weeks but Covid has a long tail. Covid will not go away if you manage it around the peak. If it does not go away you allow for mutations and new risks. This means that if the goals are set on a two week new cases/new hospitalizations rate you will reduce the rate but never eliminate the spread unless you trace all cases (Islands have a advantage here). This simple deduction supports conclusions 1 and 2 above. 3 and 4 are harder to establish currently but would be hardly surprising to anyone that has been following along. Vaid Status: It's a small world after all! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 80220497 04/20/2021 06:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: COVID-19 News, Info, Discussion /// Tracking the Spread of the Virus and its Effects /// October Lockdown for UK (pg. 774) They won’t have to do a lockdown.... Quoting: CleverCreator Not when things grind down and too many are sick. We all get there.... in the end. Redacted The thing that I enjoy about you going off the deep end..... I admitted that my timing was off. And you ignored that. Do you know what I have not be wrong about? 1... no such thing as herd immunity 2... it’s endemic... this won’t end 3... there are cascading illnesses that come with being infected 4... the birth rate will continue to fall Keep being a raging cock.... all the better to fuck yourself with. :idiot: I've tried from the beginning to simplify this to a "period" of time. We keep speaking of two weeks but this is highly simplified and negates the extreme nuance and range in factors that make the reality of the situation at hand deceptive. Two weeks works for most cases but not all. Three months is a more comfy range when there is sustained spread. This means it takes three months for measures to take full effect and to show the full effect of relieving measures. The "peak" may be around two weeks but Covid has a long tail. Covid will not go away if you manage it around the peak. If it does not go away you allow for mutations and new risks. This means that if the goals are set on a two week new cases/new hospitalizations rate you will reduce the rate but never eliminate the spread unless you trace all cases (Islands have a advantage here). This simple deduction supports conclusions 1 and 2 above. 3 and 4 are harder to establish currently but would be hardly surprising to anyone that has been following along. :nodding: |
CoronaCoaster
(OP) User ID: 78214364 United States 04/20/2021 06:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: COVID-19 News, Info, Discussion /// Tracking the Spread of the Virus and its Effects /// October Lockdown for UK (pg. 774) *rubs eyes* Dutchy it's you, you're really back! It's me 'newstard'. You used to post early on in this thread when it was active last year if you remember. So good to see you again my friend. Hope it's not just a fleeting visit! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80220497 04/20/2021 06:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: COVID-19 News, Info, Discussion /// Tracking the Spread of the Virus and its Effects /// October Lockdown for UK (pg. 774) :motherofgod: Quoting: CoronaCoaster *rubs eyes* Dutchy it's you, you're really back! It's me 'newstard'. You used to post early on in this thread when it was active last year if you remember. So good to see you again my friend. Hope it's not just a fleeting visit! You have to (in straight forward language) explain that we like him for the whole package.... not his sexy maths. |
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lightning1977
User ID: 23455869 United Kingdom 04/20/2021 06:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: COVID-19 News, Info, Discussion /// Tracking the Spread of the Virus and its Effects /// October Lockdown for UK (pg. 774) AP report on India. https://twitter.com/_/status/1384633565875523589 No beds for any patient of any ailment |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 80212937 04/20/2021 06:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: COVID-19 News, Info, Discussion /// Tracking the Spread of the Virus and its Effects /// October Lockdown for UK (pg. 774) AP report on India. Quoting: lightning1977 https://twitter.com/_/status/1384633565875523589 No beds for any patient of any ailment :crying: It’s fine. Until it’s not. |
lightning1977
User ID: 23455869 United Kingdom 04/20/2021 07:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: COVID-19 News, Info, Discussion /// Tracking the Spread of the Virus and its Effects /// October Lockdown for UK (pg. 774) Not mentioned turkey much but it's not great especially around Istanbul https://twitter.com/_/status/1384572573774614532 Istanbul no longer has vacant hospital beds, and patients who call into the 112 emergency line are forced to transfer to neighboring provinces, Küçükosmanoğlu added. "It's not that the government can't manage the pandemic, it's that they don't want to manage it," he said, adding that the government is waiting for herd immunity to occur via infections when they should have prioritized vaccinations |