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COVID-19 News, Info, Discussion /// Tracking the Spread of the Virus and its Effects /// 60% chance of re-infection (pg. 59)

 
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By RICARDO ALONSO-ZALDIVAR | February 17, 2021 at 6:50 AM EST - Updated February 18 at 4:09 PM
WASHINGTON (AP) — The U.S. is scrambling to expand DNA mapping of coronavirus samples taken from patients to identify potentially deadlier mutations that are starting to spread around the country.
On Wednesday, the White House announced a scaled up push by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, and by a U.S. Army biodefense institute. But the more significant action is on Capitol Hill, where a House bill headed for floor debate would provide $1.75 billion for genomic sequencing.


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It might be a tad too late...,
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But wasn't Israel in a strict lockdown until about a week or two ago? Not enough time to conduct that study, in my opinion.
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Yep. Plus many countries are seeing infections reduce naturally right now... but it's nothing to do with the vaccines it's just the usual ebb and flow that comes with this pandemic. Let's see that study be conducted again in Israel in a couple of months when the next wave starts and they have some of the dodgy variants circulating.

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I just came back here to add that. Case numbers had already rolled over and were dropping before the vaccines. Ie, the end of a huge wave. They knew that was coming, which is why they rushed the vaccines the way they did.
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As a "refugee" of sorts from the other COVID thread, I too applaud you, CoronaCoaster, for the moderation job you have done over here. Keeping out the propaganda and extraneous "stuff"...this thread is a pleasure...
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Is the next wave on its way ?

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I hope not, but I'm not letting my guard down just yet.
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They do not know what they are doing. They are just making shit up based on erroneous "theory", that they made up. Cycle of fallacy and confusion.
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As a "refugee" of sorts from the other COVID thread, I too applaud you, CoronaCoaster, for the moderation job you have done over here. Keeping out the propaganda and extraneous "stuff"...this thread is a pleasure...
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When it comes to whack-a-troll, the pleasure is mine. :)

I will always allow and encourage a broad spectrum of views and news to be posted here, but the George's of this world will not be tolerated.

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Re: COVID-19 News, Info, Discussion /// Tracking the Spread of the Virus and its Effects /// 60% chance of re-infection (pg. 59)
A great summary of the status in terms of origins, current variants, expected immune reactions, vaccines, and who benefits.

Both these guys have been on this since the beginning, with bi weekly (at least) video interviews and reports. They are fearless and objective enough to have delved most of the truth that can be known.

Beware, it is sobering.



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A great summary of the status in terms of origins, current variants, expected immune reactions, vaccines, and who benefits.

Both these guys have been on this since the beginning, with bi weekly (at least) video interviews and reports. They are fearless and objective enough to have delved most of the truth that can be known.

Beware, it is sobering.


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I remember the dude on the right from the early days of the pandemic. He did quite a few videos. I will be sure to watch this video later, thanks for sharing!
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Re: COVID-19 News, Info, Discussion /// Tracking the Spread of the Virus and its Effects /// 60% chance of re-infection (pg. 59)
Central Europe saw a new wave develop this week. Now could it be spreading to western Europe? It's reported France's new cases today are up 16% on last Friday's. This is the largest increase since mid-January.




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“The third wave of the pandemic is in Poland,” the Health Minister told a news conference. “It is not a question of whether or not it will appear, but what size it will reach in the near future.”


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Bulgaria up 50% since last Friday

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Re: COVID-19 News, Info, Discussion /// Tracking the Spread of the Virus and its Effects /// 60% chance of re-infection (pg. 59)
Friday, February 12, 2021

Researchers propose that humidity from masks may lessen severity of COVID-19

NIH study compares how different face masks affect humidity inside the mask.
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“We found that face masks strongly increase the humidity in inhaled air and propose that the resulting hydration of the respiratory tract could be responsible for the documented finding that links lower COVID-19 disease severity to wearing a mask,” said the study’s lead author, Adriaan Bax, Ph.D., NIH Distinguished Investigator. “High levels of humidity have been shown to mitigate severity of the flu, and it may be applicable to severity of COVID-19 through a similar mechanism.”
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Humidity factor... Intriguing!

Masks are more useful to the wearer than first thought?
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During winter or colder months the air is dry inside and outside compared to spring, summer, fall. Dry throat makes you susceptible to illness.

I've been running my oil infusers with eucalyptus and lavender oil to add some moisture to the air inside as i dont have a humidifier.
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"Herd immunity Sweden" still got no herd immunity. Third wave on the way.

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Are Pfizer just taking the piss now?



All the wailing and gnashing of teeth over super cold storage was not necessary

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Friday, February 12, 2021

Researchers propose that humidity from masks may lessen severity of COVID-19

NIH study compares how different face masks affect humidity inside the mask.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74844605


“We found that face masks strongly increase the humidity in inhaled air and propose that the resulting hydration of the respiratory tract could be responsible for the documented finding that links lower COVID-19 disease severity to wearing a mask,” said the study’s lead author, Adriaan Bax, Ph.D., NIH Distinguished Investigator. “High levels of humidity have been shown to mitigate severity of the flu, and it may be applicable to severity of COVID-19 through a similar mechanism.”
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Humidity factor... Intriguing!

Masks are more useful to the wearer than first thought?
 Quoting: CoronaCoaster


During winter or colder months the air is dry inside and outside compared to spring, summer, fall. Dry throat makes you susceptible to illness.

I've been running my oil infusers with eucalyptus and lavender oil to add some moisture to the air inside as i dont have a humidifier.
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Yeah, I'm just surprised a mask can allegedly work so well to prevent covid severity after months of being told the mask was only of a small benefit to the wearer.
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Are Pfizer just taking the piss now?



All the wailing and gnashing of teeth over super cold storage was not mevessary
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I can't even... how could they not have collected data on the less cold temperature vaccine capability before now. Surely it wouldn't have been that difficult to find that out a long time ago?
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You can see the effect the Texas winter storm has had on the reporting of case and death numbers this week. Although there doesn't appear to be any problem with the reporting of the hospitalizations which appear to be no longer falling for the time being.

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A great summary of the status in terms of origins, current variants, expected immune reactions, vaccines, and who benefits.

Both these guys have been on this since the beginning, with bi weekly (at least) video interviews and reports. They are fearless and objective enough to have delved most of the truth that can be known.

Beware, it is sobering.


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I remember the dude on the right from the early days of the pandemic. He did quite a few videos. I will be sure to watch this video later, thanks for sharing!
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Who are these guys?
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A great summary of the status in terms of origins, current variants, expected immune reactions, vaccines, and who benefits.

Both these guys have been on this since the beginning, with bi weekly (at least) video interviews and reports. They are fearless and objective enough to have delved most of the truth that can be known.

Beware, it is sobering.


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I remember the dude on the right from the early days of the pandemic. He did quite a few videos. I will be sure to watch this video later, thanks for sharing!
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Who are these guys?
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Not sure about the guy on the left but on the right it's Dr. Paul Cottrell. He actually has a PhD in finance I just found out but these days he's a researcher at Harvard in subjects like chaos theory and biology. Before the pandemic really took off globally he intelligently explained what was about to go down and the mutations etc.

The video posted there is well worth the hour long watch imo. They put forward the theories about the virus being natural or bio-weapon, share the information which supports each theory and have an objective discussion about it.
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Thanks so much for this great thread. I'm also a "refugee" from the huge COVID thread, and am happy to have a place to read news, rather than trolling. Just marking my place and voicing my appreciation!
Looks like freedom but it feels like death. It's something in between I guess... it's closing time.

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A great summary of the status in terms of origins, current variants, expected immune reactions, vaccines, and who benefits.

Both these guys have been on this since the beginning, with bi weekly (at least) video interviews and reports. They are fearless and objective enough to have delved most of the truth that can be known.

Beware, it is sobering.


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I remember the dude on the right from the early days of the pandemic. He did quite a few videos. I will be sure to watch this video later, thanks for sharing!
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Who are these guys?
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Not sure about the guy on the left but on the right it's Dr. Paul Cottrell. He actually has a PhD in finance I just found out but these days he's a researcher at Harvard in subjects like chaos theory and biology. Before the pandemic really took off globally he intelligently explained what was about to go down and the mutations etc.

The video posted there is well worth the hour long watch imo. They put forward the theories about the virus being natural or bio-weapon, share the information which supports each theory and have an objective discussion about it.
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Yeah I watched the whole thing last night. Lots of theories based on joining dots. They all make sense of course. But very difficult to prove.

It’s clear that they both unequivocally believe COVID to be a bio weapon. But that they are somewhat shunned by the Scientific community.

I was curious the mention of the Deagu cult which I remember mentioned way back at the beginning of this. That this was deliberate spreading events rather than a naughty cult bending the rules!

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Evidence of long term morbidity starting to now emerge. Will be interesting to see if this is an aberration or a long term tend. I’d imagine it will be 12 months before we get a true picture what this virus is up to

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We have in the UK a group of Conservative MPs called the ‘COVID recovery group’ who are exerting pressure on the government up to release restrictions. They number 60 or so. Interesting to see if Johnson holds the line or caves.

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Are Pfizer just taking the piss now?



All the wailing and gnashing of teeth over super cold storage was not mevessary
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I can't even... how could they not have collected data on the less cold temperature vaccine capability before now. Surely it wouldn't have been that difficult to find that out a long time ago?
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Maybe just maybe governments are giving up on the hard to deliver Pfizer jab in favour of the easier ones...

Pfizer getting worried they are loosing their share especially as it won’t work well with the new variants.

So change the storage rules to get it out there - especially in less developed regions ?

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Thanks so much for this great thread. I'm also a "refugee" from the huge COVID thread, and am happy to have a place to read news, rather than trolling. Just marking my place and voicing my appreciation!
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Good to see you, Doommonkey!

And for any other newcomers: I hope to make this thread accomodating for y'all. Don't be thinking it's just for posting news. If you want you're quite welcome to post your own anecdotes/stories, and what not here, or post questions etc. A relaxed atmosphere is the aim in this thread. I'm not trigger happy with the bane hammer, but I do remove the trolls to ensure the thread works for everyone.

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I remember the dude on the right from the early days of the pandemic. He did quite a few videos. I will be sure to watch this video later, thanks for sharing!
 Quoting: CoronaCoaster


Who are these guys?
 Quoting: lightning1977


Not sure about the guy on the left but on the right it's Dr. Paul Cottrell. He actually has a PhD in finance I just found out but these days he's a researcher at Harvard in subjects like chaos theory and biology. Before the pandemic really took off globally he intelligently explained what was about to go down and the mutations etc.

The video posted there is well worth the hour long watch imo. They put forward the theories about the virus being natural or bio-weapon, share the information which supports each theory and have an objective discussion about it.
 Quoting: CoronaCoaster


Yeah I watched the whole thing last night. Lots of theories based on joining dots. They all make sense of course. But very difficult to prove.

It’s clear that they both unequivocally believe COVID to be a bio weapon. But that they are somewhat shunned by the Scientific community.

I was curious the mention of the Deagu cult which I remember mentioned way back at the beginning of this. That this was deliberate spreading events rather than a naughty cult bending the rules!
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Personally I'm undecided on it being a bio-weapon or naturally occuring. But what I liked with those guys is they have their theory/opinion on it being a bio-weapon but they aren't trying to propagandize it. They even kind of criticized that Chinese scientist who came to America who claimed it was a bio-weapon because she only mentioned CCP involvement in certain programs, but failed to mention the U.S. involvement as well.

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Signs of third wave in Europe get stronger...

Cases up a lot today in Czech Republic, Poland, Belgium...
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